User talk:Tauriel the Elf

Stoick's Quote page
Hi! I recently noticed that Stoick doesn't have his own quote page like Astrid and the rest of the main characters. Should a character quote page be created for him?

04:45, September 12, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I just created a quote page for him (and Gobber, since he also doesn't have one of his own).

07:33, September 12, 2018 (UTC)

Oblique mentions of plants ...?
Hey, just wanted to ask your opinion. In Dragonvine, Tuffnut mentions grapeseed oil (the oil coming from the seeds of grapes). Do you think this is enough of a mention to create a page for grapes, or is it too tenuous of a connection. I also have similar types of mentions for some Book things - Olive oil in Book 2 and Maple syrup in Book 4.

Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:30, September 14, 2018 (UTC)

You are right - there is a reference in "Dragon Flower" by Gobber! I added grape info to the Berry page, since it's a berry.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:02, September 14, 2018 (UTC)

Spitelout Jorgenson Quotes Category
Sorry for the inconvenience, but I got a little carried away and created Category:Spitelout Jorgenson Quotes. I'm not sure if it should stay or get deleted. Though since it literally only has one article residing in that category (which is Spitelout Jorgenson / Quotes), I don't think it is necessary to keep that category. What do you think? If it should be deleted, would you please go ahead and do so?

Thanks,  23:19, September 17, 2018 (UTC)

A Wee Favour
Hi Tauriel,

So my work place's Wifi is down and no one knows when it will be fixed. I'll be unable to check in on the Discussion Boards for 10+ hours while in my work building for who knows how long, which frankly is giving me a bit of anxiety. The other two admins are (probably) usually sleeping at that time, but sometimes you're active during the hours I'm at work. Would you mind greatly just checking in on "my kids" when you first log on, and again before you log off for the day? You may not have to do anything, just be sure there's no trolls or spam, and maybe quickly check if there's any reported content. It would give me some peace of mind. Thank you so much! I'll let you know when I'm able to check in at work again. With some luck, that may happen as early as tomorrow.

Thank you Tauriel!

--🍀 ~ 14:34, September 19, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, sounds like you and I are awake during pretty much the same time frame during the week. I'm about to go to bed too. But now the other two admins will be able to check in because they're awake! I'm still online at home, of course. I'll be able to check in before I head into work, and then after I get home. I just hate not being able to even check in for so long. 😩

Thank you so much Tauriel! 💗

--🍀 ~ 16:55, September 19, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much Tauriel! Unfortunately the wifi at work still isn't working as of yesterday, and it might be out for days, or even weeks. I HOPE it doesn't take that long to get it up and running again! So if you could just check in to be sure there's no trolls or spam again tonight, I'd sooo greatly appreciate it. I'm off on the weekend so today hopefully will be the last time. Though I won't know if it'll be working again yet when I head back into work on Tuesday so maybe that day as well. I'll let you know when I'm back online at work and can check in again while on my breaks.

Yeah, it's pretty calm right now. Most of them are back in school. And Thursdays are usually one of the slowest days of the week. And they're a pretty well behaved group right now. 😊 We just get an occasional newbie who posts without reading the rules first. And spam and trolls can strike without warning. Those are my biggest concerns. I don't want you to feel like you need to spend a lot of time there if you can't or don't want to. A quick check in is fine if needed.

Again, thank you so much for your help Tauriel. The kids in Discussions are appreciative of it too, I'm sure. 💗

--🍀 ~ 03:27, September 21, 2018 (UTC)

Re:Refereces
I typically use the not. I noticed recently that one user changed the former to the latter on episode pages. I don't think we have a set rule on that. But I do think using the template set up by default for listing the references on the page in one section at the bottom, is probably what should be used. Both are fine options. Of course I think we should have a vote on this with the other users to see which of the two ways they think would be be best for putting in the references section. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 18:55, September 20, 2018 (UTC)

That turkey ...
Hey, what do you think about renaming Büttor-Bol to "Buttor-Bol"? I just had a really hard time finding the page because I don't have the capability (or know how to) make a U with umlauts over it. I suspect this is probably the case for many users, especially us US ones :/

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  03:18, September 23, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, that's probably okay. Not many options otherwise - misspell the name or leave it to be difficult to find :/ Lady Brasa (  talk  )  05:21, September 23, 2018 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!
Happy birthday, Tauriel! Amin estela lle caela y' vanima re quanta en' celebration! Ar' diola ten' keepien an elee no' amin hini! 💗

--🍀 ~ 04:07, September 24, 2018 (UTC)

You're most welcome! And I used this translator this time. 😊

Last I was there, there still was no wifi at work but I did manage to connect to the network belonging to the building next to us. Unfortunately it's not a reliable network and I have to step further from my work facility to connect to it. But I should be able to check in at least once during my shift. It still would be lovely if you could check in quickly when you first log on though as that seems to be around the same time I'm offline for the longest. Thank you so very much for your help! 💗

And you may enjoy this- I've been listening to the LotR soundtrack over the weekend, and must have played "Into the West" on repeat for half a day. 😂 I love any lullaby, and that one is especially beautiful, even if it is sad since it's referencing death rather than just sleep. I just... -sigh- I love it. 💗

I hope you had a great birthday, Tauriel.

--🍀 ~ 15:23, September 24, 2018 (UTC)

Happy birthday!-- Worldwide, intergalactic, universal, plagiarism detective (  talk  ) 04:24, September 24, 2018 (UTC)

Happy birthday! Hope you have a sweet day!

04:38, September 24, 2018 (UTC)

Happy birthday! Have a splendid day! Nuttetuff (  talk  )  05:12, September 24, 2018 (UTC)nuttetuff

Happy Birthday! Hope you have a great day! ❤ --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 07:06, September 24, 2018 (UTC)

Happy birthday Tauriel! Wish you all the best!--NarendraMartosudarmo (talk) 10:48, September 24, 2018 (UTC)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!Youngtrainer (talk) 11:27, September 24, 2018 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

Next year on your birthday, please don't add the notification about it being your own birthday to the custom wiki notification.. I let the other admins do it on my birthday, so you should let the other admins do it for your birthday. I feel that it isn't right to update the custom wiki notification for your own birthday. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 13:48, September 24, 2018 (UTC)

Happy Birthday Turiel have a great day! DeathSongLover (  talk  ) 15:26, September 24, 2018 (UTC)

Happy birthday admin! Have an amazing day! (If your day is over, have a fantastic day tomorrow!)      How To Train Your Deathsong   18:02, September 24, 2018 (UTC)

Happy Birthday! May the gods smile upon you! --Mudsbreath :) (talk) 19:48, September 24, 2018 (UTC)

happy birthday!!!Annabraley (talk) 21:06, September 24, 2018 (UTC)

Happy birthday!--

Being 'sluggish' getting around to wishing you a Happy Birthday!
How about some Fermented Flesh Flambe?

Also, there is a mention of slugs in How to Cheat a Dragon's Curse. They are used to describe the appearance of the Squealers. In reality, the term 'slug' is a common term for anything that looks like a snail without a shell and living on land. Taxonomically, there is no slug 'group'. We already have both Book and Franchise pages for "Sea Slugs", which are any creature that look slug-like and lives in the sea, not a specific taxonomic group; however in the Franchise it refers to something specific seen in the shows). So, should I just create a page called "Slug"? Or should it be "Terrestrial Slug" or "Land Slug"?

Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  02:15, September 25, 2018 (UTC)

Happy Birthday
Happy birthday Httyd big fan! Hope you have a great day!

character (cast) section on season pages
Later today I am planning to edit the season pages, and update the character section. I will rename it cast, with all the sames sections for main characters, minor characters, enemies, and dragons. I will also change it from just stating the characters name, to who voices in the from as "name of voice actor" as "name as character" on the season pages that just have a list of characters. Looking at how other wikis handle their season pages in terms of the character section (namely the wiki I used to edit a lot on for one, and the wiki I look at from time to time as another), they always include the names of the voice actors with the character they voiced, typically in a table with name of character, in one column and name of voice actor/actress in the another column, with main characters and recurring characters on separate tables of course. I want to follow the two wikis examples for listing voice actors with the characters they voice, but not necessarily use tables like they do, but I will add all the voice actors/actress into the characters section (which I will rename to cast) once I get the chance. I think just list the characters and not their voice actors/actresses doesn't make sense. I think people should know who voices who by season, because there has been some changes in voice actors/actress of a couple characters. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 10:59, September 27, 2018 (UTC)

I think it is a good idea. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 14:48, September 27, 2018 (UTC)

I like the idea! Go for it!--

That'll be useful at times, so I think it's a great idea! Besides, it'll give us something to keep us busy until the movie comes out. 😊

--🍀 ~ 16:02, September 27, 2018 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. 😊 --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 16:07, September 27, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, this sounds great! But along the same lines, should we also link ALL relevant pages? There's also songs and plants and animals and practices/events and whatnot that also get vastly overlooked by most people. So the lists could get long - is there a way to have a list format, but two or three columns, instead of one long column down the page?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  21:51, September 27, 2018 (UTC)

I meant, is it possible in the coding to have a list appear in 2 or maybe three columns horizontally, rather than just one down the page, and without using the coding for a table. Not each section/heading in a column, but for a single list that is long. This might be helpful on pages with long lists of articles or other things, since people tend not to stay focused on long lists. As for plants and animals, their seeming lack of importance is why I suggested it, to bring them to viewer's attentions. Too bad we can't see how many people actually look at those pages, though it would probably mostly be just you and me :D

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:57, September 29, 2018 (UTC)

So I updated "How to Start a Dragon Academy" with Objects and Locations and such, since I was kind of working on that episode a little while ago. However, there are a few "items" that are technically listed as plants or animals that might be relevant. In the episode, Gobber is seen whittling a duck. So object, but it is listed as Waterfowl under animals. Should I list "Wooden Duck" and link to the Waterfowl page. The wooden duckie does appear in other episodes, too. Also, bread (under Grain)is relevant to this episode (dragons stealing it and Hiccup uses it in training), as is cabbage (dragons destroy Mildew's garden), fish (a Terror steals a cod from Bucket, and Hookfang helps them fish), and apples (dragons stealing a sack of apples from a Viking). Should I add these things under objects? Some or all?

Also, are we going to list things like Toothless' saddle and tail, Astrid's cransen, and Hiccup's leg in every single episode, or only in those where they are mentioned specifically?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  19:06, September 30, 2018 (UTC)

Done.

Also to mention, I did add an "Animal Characters" subsection to the "Characters" heading in "How to Start a Dragon Academy", because Fungus makes an appearance for the first time. He's a character, just not a human or dragon. Also, someone had already listed Sheep, etc as characters in "Animal House" because they are a major character group of the episode. I just changed it a bit to say "Animal Characters" and "Unnamed Sheep" etc. I can remove it if you disagree.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:04, October 1, 2018 (UTC)

Gallery for title cards
I posted this message on Annabeth's talk page and now I am posting it here as well:

On the other wiki where I have done a lot of edits, though I am not active there right now, there was one thing we did there that I really liked, and that was that we created a galleries for title cards. While that wiki had multiple galleries for title cards, I would only make one for title cards here. It would include all the title cards from the franchise, for the films, shorts, and episodes. It would of course be broken up by section. I feel that it might be nice to have a gallery where we keep all the title cards. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 14:57, October 1, 2018 (UTC)

New ROB Flocks
Apparently there are new dragons in ROB today! I didn’t realize they’ve been posted on the Ludia forum for days now. And they added Peggy :) I hope they continue adding RttE individuals! I’ll start working on renders as soon as I can for you!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  03:22, October 9, 2018 (UTC)

Here they come ...

It will be hard for me to do the Smokebreath (Smogger?) since half of its tail is covered up by the wing of the glowing Boneknapper :( So I might do that one last.

Yeah, but the image in game is such lower quality for me :/ Well, maybe it will be better since I got a new phone ... In the past I colored in "holes" like that myself, which was kind of pleasant actually. However, this is a very large area. Maybe I can screenshot Smogger in-game and just mesh parts together. Ehhh, I'll figure something out!

In-Text Image Borders
Also, earlier today I had removed the stages slideshow code from Prickleboggle (Franchise) (I think), then you removed the "thumb" code from the code to put the picture in-text. From what I can see on Firefox, this removes the red line border from around the picture that separates it from the text. I thought we were doing this for in-text pictures? Are we not doing this anymore? I altered one image back on the Prickleboggle page for comparison. Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:11, October 15, 2018 (UTC)

I can see what you mean with the color. I think (don't quote me) that is a holdover from a previous color/theme change for the site, when we were going with a lot of red. Can we change this to better match the current site colors? I feel that having a border (whatever color) gives a little separation between text and image and this looks a little more organized, especially if there is a caption with the image. Though one exception might be images that are renders, then it does look kind of funny because the background comes through. As far as short pages/text blocks - I did add additional text/sentences to some pages to try and even out the images and headings and such (there was definitely room to add more info to the pages! What do you think of changing the color?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:59, October 15, 2018 (UTC)

So ... now that I look back at the Prickleboggle page, there are lots of red lines ... the line around the content box, the lines under primary headings, the quotation marks. Is it even possible to change the color of all those??

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:02, October 15, 2018 (UTC)

Hmmmm, yes, maybe white, since it will stand out but not tooo much like the red, though I'd like to see an example first. Well, I guess it wouldn't hurt to post something to Woolly's talk page. I think she may get email notifications if someone posts to her talk page, and then if she has time will answer.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  16:03, October 15, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, or possibly a shade of brown ... that'd match the background pretty well, and for some reason, blue and brown seem to go well together.

Hey! I heard back from Woolly! She said how to edit most of the things mentioned above, however I don't have sufficient permission to do so (except maybe the red quotation marks on quotes). Would you be able to fiddle with it?

Please see her message: Re: Picking colors for certain site coding features

Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:03, October 20, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, white looks fine enough, IMO. I went ahead and changed the templates that I could - and. The scroll boxes (pretty much used in infoboxes, right?) and were also red, so I changed those to dark blue so they were noticeable but matched better. As far as the red lines, there are only the ones for the table of contents and also around the categories at the end of a page. Woolly responded with the code for the Table of Contents. I suspect the line around the Categories is also in that MediaWiki page. Would you be able to change those, then I think everything should be altered. I was looking at Astrid's page to see how things looked, since I think all of the coding/templates appear there.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  16:48, October 20, 2018 (UTC)

Pictures of covers of items with words on them in a language other than Englsih
I've noticed lately that one user has been uploading pictures of covers of puzzle books, dvds, other books, and the like of books and such, and being that they are covers of items from countries with the main language not being English, the words on the covers are in other languages. I am not sure if we should allow those pictures or not. This is the English wiki anyway. While they are good pictures, I feel that any pictures uploaded on this wiki that have words on them should be the ones with English words on them only. The others should be uploaded on the appropriate wiki, with each going on the wiki that matches the language of the words in the pictures. I can tell you, I don't understand many of the words on the pictures that a user uploaded that were languages other than English. I want to know how you feel about this. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 02:15, October 22, 2018 (UTC)

Please Block
Tauriel, ma'am, if you're still on, can you please block this user? She's been posting the most random and off topic comments under posts in Discussions, one of which contained some hazardous personal info just this morning. I've had to delete her posts in four different waves now. You might not have to block her indefinitely, but I might suggest maybe two weeks, or a month? You can use your best judgement on the length of time.

Thank you! 😊

--🍀 ~ 14:50, October 23, 2018 (UTC)

That works. Thank you so much, Tauriel! 💗

--🍀 ~ 17:03, October 23, 2018 (UTC)

Former Villains Category Typo
Tauriel, it seems that the “Former Villains” category has a typo in it. Here’s the link: https://howtotrainyourdragon.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Former_Villians Will you be able to fix it?--NarendraMartosudarmo (talk) 16:24, October 25, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you and you’re welcome!--NarendraMartosudarmo (talk) 22:40, October 25, 2018 (UTC)

Spune tuturor te rog ca o sa ocup eu de imaginile din noul trailer. Youngtrainer (talk) 19:16, October 25, 2018 (UTC)

Three upcoming days of inactivity
I let you know now that from November 2nd - November 4th, I will be inactive because I will be headed out of town on the 2nd, and returning home on the 4th. Part of the travel time involves being on a plane, six hours Friday, and six hours Sunday, which means I will have absolutely NO internet access at those times. I will still be looking at the wiki activity once each day, but won't be able to do anything on the wiki those three days. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 02:16, October 26, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Snaptrapper in The Hidden World?
You mean when we see Drago's Bewilderbeast? I'll take a look, but I am by no means an image expert!!! I just have a phone app that can sharpen, lighten, etc etc an image :P

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:53, October 26, 2018 (UTC)

So I tried to look at the frame you were talking about, and I think I see where you think there might be a Snaptrapper? Is it sort of in the middle? I can't really "zoom in" with any clarity, sorry. But I can see why you might wonder if it is a four headed dragon. However, after staring at it for a while, I think it is a two-header with another dragon slightly higher but very close by, not a Snaptrapper. Sorry I couldn't give you a better answer :(

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  16:30, October 28, 2018 (UTC)

French wiki
Hi !

I'm the admin of the french How to train your dragon wiki. I'm trying to develop it since a few months. HiccstridFan92 told me to contact you. I have some questions to ask you.

- Would you agree if I traduce some content from the English Wiki to the French one ? Of course, with a template to say "This content uses informations traduced from howtotrainyourdragon.wikia.com".

- Would you agree if I link the two wikis with the Interlanguage links ?

Thanks for your help

Arwenn30 (talk) 19:17, October 27, 2018 (UTC)

Re : French wiki
Hi

Thank you for your answer. I totally agree with what you say about translating pages. The problem i have in the French wiki is that people have created many pages but have only had the Infobox for exemple. So, I want to complete them with the main ideas and then take the time to make them really interesseting, after rewatching the episodes and movies or other How to train your Dragons univers things.

Arwenn30 (talk) 08:05, October 28, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, It's only for pages which already exists and needs to be complete quickly, because some users have creat them but not write things in it.

Arwenn30 (talk) 09:14, October 28, 2018 (UTC)

Please Block
Hi Tauriel,

I have two users today who have been caught shamelessly stealing fan art. 😒

Can you please block this user for maybe 2-3 months? They've been here for a while but not active enough for a week's block or maybe even a month's to be worth while. Please enter the reason for the block as they posted another user's art on their own Instagram and claimed it as their own. Otherwise they may not know they've been found out and won't know why they've been blocked.

Additionally, can you please block this user also for claiming fan art is their own when it was found to belong to someone else. They're new to the Wiki and after some investigation, I found they've been blocked from other Wiki's for similar reasons so you can probably block them for at least a year, if not indefinitely.

I may even have a third to block soon as I have issued them a final warning.

It's been an irritating weekend so far on the boards. 😛

Thank you so much, Tauriel. 💗

--🍀 ~ 21:16, November 4, 2018 (UTC)

Titan Wing Dragons page
The page, Titan Wing Dragons, does not have an infobox or a Navbox. How should this page be classified? Is it even needed, since titan wing stages are discussed on each species' page?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  18:16, November 5, 2018 (UTC)

Behold the beauty!
Good morning Tauriel,

Just dropping a very quick note to say you might get a kick out of this. It was off topic and I had to delete it but.. yeah. 😍😂

--🍀 ~ 06:55, November 9, 2018 (UTC)

Happy Un-Birthday to You!
So I made a template to add to peoples' talk pages on their birthdays if anyone want to use it. What do you think?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:18, November 10, 2018 (UTC)

Oh dang it, I forgot that one even existed!! It’s kind of depressing-looking ...

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:37, November 10, 2018 (UTC)

Episode Titles on Episode Pages
Hi Tauriel,

I noticed that some media pages like How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World, The Serpent's Heir, and How to Train Your Dragon (film) have their title in the first paragraph of the page and title in the infobox bolded and italicized, as per the MoS. The MoS also states that media titles of episodes, comics, and songs are to be encased in double quotation marks. Does this rule apply to episode (plus comic and song) pages too? Dragon Eye of the Beholder, Part 1 already has its title in the infobox confined in double quotation marks, for example.

03:32, November 10, 2018 (UTC)

400 year Anniversary Page
Hey, thanks for making the Berk's 400 Year Anniversary page! I had thought about it but never got around to it. It is also mentioned in ROB. I did notice that the page is mis-named on the ROB Wiki: Bork's 400th Anniversary Pack. I know you do some editing over there, so would you be able to change or let the powers that be know to change the page's name?

Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:43, November 11, 2018 (UTC)

Dagur and Heather's Relationship Page Name
At your convenience, can you please delete this redirect: Dagur and Heather's Relationship. I don't know how to rename pages without leaving a redirect, sorry! I think only users like you are allowed to do that. And also, I renamed the page because of the apostrophes. The page's former name had the curly quote (’), and therefore was hard to find since the search bar is quite case sensitive. Not that it matters but it appears page names on this wiki generally use straight quotes, not curly quotes, so I proceeded to rename it.

00:18, November 13, 2018 (UTC)

Hi. I'm new here, and I have a question.

Does Chief of Berk mean you are the creator if the wiki?

Also I'm doing this to get the terror mail badge. Idk why I like collecting them though.

Thanks for the reply.

Heyaguys (talk) 10:07, November 15, 2018 (UTC)

Hey, I was just informed by Staff that CBS and Simon & Schuster have contacted them about the images on Meet the New Dragons and have asked that they be removed due for a legal notice about copyright, a cease and desist. As a result, unfortunately, I have to delete them. I'm sorry!--http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/f/f8/Toothless_Glasses.gif/revision/latest?cb=20161110045342 Annabeth and Percy  🎵You're scared, I'm nervous, but I guess that we did it on purpose.🎵  http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/f/f8/Toothless_Glasses.gif/revision/latest?cb=20161110045342 00:42, November 16, 2018 (UTC)

Hey, I also wanted to mention myself to you, that, after seeing the above, have asked AnnaBeth that the "Night Light" page be removed also. But just for now! Also, it looks like Amazon has also removed the images, so people are realizing they just dumped some big spoilers out there!!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:48, November 16, 2018 (UTC)

I saw Annabeth's message to you and frankly I am not surprised. Those pictures did contain big spoilers. Also, I would like to note that uploading pictures from an unreleased book to this wiki shouldn't happen anyway. The main reason for that is it is a copyright violation. One reason for that is the fact that we aren't authorized to have full pages of the book on this wiki, or show previews of a book either, and because of that we are violating copyright. Even after a book is released having full pages of a book violates copyright for the same reason. So the only pictures from a book that are allowed, are partial pictures, and even then such pictures have to be limited. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 03:08, November 16, 2018 (UTC)

"Meet the New Dragons" Spoilers
Yeah, I agree that we should have all information possible on our Wiki. We are like an encyclopedia of all things HTTYD. Absolutely we should have that page in the future. You can restore it later on just as you made it, correct? However, it is not appropriate to have that page at this time right now. The images were obviously not supposed to have been released, therefore the information on those pages was not supposed to be disseminated, and the public was not supposed to know about it. As far as the spoiler aspects, big or small, even with the spoiler tag, someone can't avoid it. If someone clicked on that page not knowing what it is, you immediately see the image, and you can't unsee it. Also the images were all over the Wiki's recent changes feed and they couldn't help but be seen by people. Basically the spoiler tag, at least in this case, is not very helpful at all. As far as re-uploading the images later on, it should be fine? Just erase or crop out the book text and focus only on the image portion, and I'm pretty sure that would be okay. Like I was doing for the Book series images.

I hope this makes sense!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  19:32, November 17, 2018 (UTC)

I mean, we aren't supposed to know this information yet. We have to pretend like we didn't see it, at least as far as the Wiki goes. It is (sort of) like information revealed by a hacker before the information is officially revealed. In this case it was someone's screw up at Amazon, and has been removed. The copyright thing about book pages is real, but that isn't the only reason we received a "cease and desist", it was because of the information on those pages, otherwise Amazon wouldn't have taken them down since they are allowed to have preview pages. Again, I am not saying we should never have that info up on the Wiki, just not right now. As far as people unsure if the images were real or not - certainly as an individual you can assure them they were. But as a Wiki, an entity catering to the world (more or less), we should be "above board" and legal and not add information that wasn't supposed to be known yet, be fully in line with copyright policies, and not post hacked material, even if it turns out true later on. Hmmm, I wonder if we should have some sort of official position statement or concrete policy regarding these sorts of things. At any rate, Annabeth ultimately agreed and deleted the page, so if you wish to restore it now, probably run it by her first?

As an aside, I have been thinking about signing up at the Berk Grapevine. Do you think it is worthwhile? Is there useful discussion over there? I had signed up for the Ludia forums for ROB, but there is hardly any activity or response to questions there.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  20:20, November 17, 2018 (UTC)

Hey, even if I don't agree, I understand where you are coming from concerning keeping the information from those images on the Wiki. However, Annabeth has stated that the particular information shown on those images should not be on this Wiki at this time (see this Disccussion thread). Sorry. I guess I will be the "bad guy" since the others are unaware or busy or whatnot. So I will start deleting the bits of info I know about from those images soon/today. I hope you understand.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  16:04, November 18, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for understanding :)

As far as the seeming 'rise of hybrids' - yeah, the eventuality of NLs has probably opened the door for all kinds of other mixes. And it is something that will make money. I have a sensation that since Universal is doing most of the promotion and licensing stuff, that the HTTYD Franchise has gotten a bit more commercial? I mean it was to begin with of course, just more obvious, I guess. I feel like some elements of HTTYD3 were rewritten or changed to cater to fans and therefore profit since Universal bought Dreamworks. Obviously I don't have an actual idea, just a feeling. Anyway, I am guessing that perhaps Ludia already had the idea of breeding dragons in mind, since their other games appear to be successful doing the same thing (breeding, hybrids, fighting). The NL just opened the door for it, and now that the movie portion of the Franchise is over, probably Universal and Ludia want to do whatever they can to cash in on it, whether it is really in line with the principles or not. I really hope that this hybrid stuff just stays in the games, though. I mean NLs do make sense. Maybe a few other dragons that appear closely related like Gronckles and Hotburples or something. As for Patch, I'll wait to pass personal judgement until the story comes out, since the summary banters around the words 'chimera' and 'hybrid' and such which are different things. Like if Patch is a hybrid or chimera, I get the feeling he is very unique and a one-time occurrence. And the NLs are a unique creature and won't occur again after Toothless passes. In real life hybrids aren't just creatures that can occur whenever and between what ever (unless humans are involved and purposely breed successful hybrids like mules). Most of the time hybrids between very different species just doesn't work. Even if a viable embryo is produced, it often dies before birth or has such problems it is malformed and dies quickly. In real life, even the Asian and African elephant can't produce offspring. There is one documented baby being born, but it died like a week or two after being born. Anyway, sorry, not pleased with the breeding/hybrid/fighting of this new upcoming game as it related to Hiccup's and HTTYD's principles as well as scientifically, which the Franchise has thus far tried to incorporate. That said, I will probably find myself getting the game anyway :/ So yea, the Night Lights and Titans Rising are probably connected, though I'm not sure I could say that the game is appearing only because of the appearance of NLs.

The coming release of this Ludia game has also got me wondering if they are focusing time on developing that game, and not as much on RoB? Because this whole year the Gauntlet Events have been lame and so have special searches. The Gauntlets used to have a story to them, but now its just "Hey, fight these dragons" and "Here's your prize". And all the special searches have been the "No Name" location, instead of mixing it up with other places like they did in the past. There are alot of new dragons, but many of them are simply offered as one time purchases (at least to me) rather than through an event or something.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  17:56, November 18, 2018 (UTC)

Has it really been that long since ROB released a new feature?? Other than the Legendaries. Which is still kind of weird they released them in such rapid succession. Well, I guess the dragon images have been better and more detailed lately? As in the new ones they have been releasing.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  03:44, November 19, 2018 (UTC)

And, for both RoB and this new game - there are still tons of dragon species that haven't been added or worked up. The unnamed ones from the movies, Book dragons, miscellaneous other dragons, and the plethora of concept art dragons. Any of those could have "special abilities" instead of creating hybrids. People love to see new species and "collect 'em all" (yes, I have this mentality!).

Episode article layout
I just noticed looking at the How to Train Your Dragon Wiki:Create Article/Episode Layout page that the cast is put somewhere in the middle of the page. It only came to my attention that episode article layout had the cast section in the middle when I noticed one you moving the cast section from the bottom of the page to middle to match the episode layout page. For me I really don't like it being put in the middle of the page. I believe the cast section should be the last section before the site navigation, with the later section and references and inter language links after it. Putting trivia at the bottom of the page isn't the best idea either. That section should be before the error section. There might be other things that need to be updated on the episode layout page I listed above to make the layout of the episode page better, but the things I mentioned are the things that are most important to have right for the episode layout. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 04:00, November 19, 2018 (UTC)

Hey.

I have a few questions regarding the dragonpedia quotes.

Does it need to be exaclty the same on what they quote on the articles and what they say in their own site?

Because I've been editing a lot of the dragonpedia quotes because they dont say exactly what they do in their own site.

Heyaguys (talk) 20:53, November 22, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Some Titan Uprising stuff...
Do you mean this page? I'll piddle around with our Wiki page. Yes, I think it should be references, especially since it looks like you quoted word for word I think? Ludia has had a limited release for Titans Rising, so that's probably why they posted the FAQs for it already. Also, if you haven't seen it, please look at this Discussion thread. Very informative!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:36, November 24, 2018 (UTC)

EDIT: Well, I'm super tired tonight so am not going to mess with the page. I was thinking like saying something like "Here are excerpts from Ludia's official game FAQs" and then listing the question in bold print, followed by the answer in italics. Each FAQ would have a ref link to the actual official page. Example:


 * How to breed my Dragons?. (Date Updated - November 21, 2018). Ludia Support - Dragons: Titan Uprising.

Ok thanks for responding.

Heyaguys (talk) 10:59, November 24, 2018 (UTC)

Next Round of RoB Dragons ...
Looks like RoB has already released a preview of their next update for Winter. I'll start working on the dragons and post them here. Also looks like Eret's ship can be upgraded - finally!! Since I can only get on the game an average of once a day, I can only make a piece of polished amber once a day, meaning it takes months and months to accrue enough to upgrade anything with them!!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:00, November 25, 2018 (UTC)

First batch ...

Re: Dragons: Titan Uprising
Hello and yes, I do have the game downloaded on my iOS device, and that is where those recent screenshots have been coming from.

14:37, November 25, 2018 (UTC)

Looks like clicking the "i" button at the top-left corner opens a window that has a set of 'trading' cards of dragons that may be obtained (e.g. here). However, holding the card for a few seconds at the bottom-left corner opens a window of the dragon's stats (e.g here). Also, from what I've seen so far, a description/bio of a dragon/species, can only be viewed after you've obtained it, like these 1, 2.

02:18, November 26, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Titan Uprising’s Hybrids
(On phone) Yes sure add a link. However the Discussion thread Hamish/Charles started on our own Wiki has a lot more info/discussion, so that should be linked, too. I think I linked it above on your talk page somewhere ...

As far as the hybrid comment goes, dogs are all of the same species and highly manipulated by humans. The dragons in HTTYD are different species, so hybridization is a much more complex issue (at least in RL).

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  12:49, November 27, 2018 (UTC)

Here's a link to our Discussion thread!

Hey, do you think that we should reference the discussion ^ at least on those pages that may appear murky for readers wondering why they are listed as characters rather than subspecies? Just to make things clear for viewers. Like we could put in trivia something to the effect of: official sources intend the X dragons to be simply a group of species X, rather than a separate sub-grouping or sub-species. Or something.

Also, someone else added the page Crimson Death. Are you able to verify its classification and information? I didn't see any Youtube videos about it.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:29, December 1, 2018 (UTC)

Also, on a different note - do you know how to upload video to the Wiki? Pretty sure we can't link to it. Dublyn posted a small, cute TV spot from a different country that shows a few dragons, including what appears to be a grown Scuttleclaw. It would be nice to add it to the Scuttleclaw page, and also the Sheep page.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:45, December 1, 2018 (UTC)

I see you uploaded the video - thanks! There was also another one that was a sheep in a dragon costume riding in a ship. The shadow of a dragon passes by and the sheep cowers. It was posted in Discussions, but not sure if I can find it.

Yes, I can try to post to Mr. Charles' thread, but I suspect he is finished with the discussion. Won't hurt to try though. The Red/Green/Crimson Death is a very convoluted issue, IMO.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:18, December 2, 2018 (UTC)

Using Pictured from books for articles, (Bog Burglar National Anthem)
Hi Httyd big fan,

I have reread the manual but if I crop the picture to only the sketch of Camicazi singing the B.B.N Anthem, then can I add it to the page?

-ZPD

Please Block
Hi Tauriel,

Can you please block this user. She was posting creepy delusional stuff and called another user names when they called her out on it. When I told her to stop the name calling and chill on the creepiness she spewed profanities at me. So you can block her indefinitely, as we don't want users like that here to begin with.

And again, I might have a second user that'll need blocking. She's been harassing the Discussions for two days and telling newbies that they don't need to follow the rules because they're "stupid". Annabeth dealt with her a few times yesterday but apparently didn't see a need to block her yet. But I'm the one who's had to clean up most of her messes so if she strikes out one more time I'll request she be blocked too. 😒

Thank you Tauriel!

--🍀 ~ 10:00, December 5, 2018 (UTC)

Good morning Tauriel,

Well the last straw has been had. So please block this user for two weeks. As the reason please put "Ongoing defiance, rude, and disruptive behaviour despite being told multiple times to stop." She said two days ago that she was leaving on her own so I didn't see a need to block her then. But she came back and is now attacking me for giving her a warning. Hopefully after two weeks she'll just stay gone, because I'm sick of dealing with her over the past few days.

Thank you. Have a lovely Saturday! And once she's gone, I will, too.

--🍀 ~ 02:32, December 8, 2018 (UTC)

Annabeth just took care of it. Thank you anyway. 😊 Now we can both have a good Saturday!

--🍀 ~ 03:03, December 8, 2018 (UTC)

New Classification Info
Hey, if you are reading this, you probably have seen the tweets by Richard Hamilton as well! Looks like Narendra, Clogdahelm, and Thorndrum updated most of the pages. However, Mr. Hamilton's class list contradicts some of the dragons' classes: Prickleboggle (Franchise) - Sharp vs Mystery, Threadtail - Stoker vs Strike, and Gobsucker - Mystery vs Stoker. My question is 1) How/where should we list these dragons in the Navbox - under Hamilton's class or both classes? Also, how she we list them on the Dragon Classes (Franchise) page - under Mr. Hamilton's or both (with comment)? I have corrected the pages to mention both classes, as I think that is important info, even if the two sources are in conflict.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  03:03, December 9, 2018 (UTC)

(Sorry on phone) I hear ya about missing things! I feel really out of the loop with ‘’Titan Rising’’. In this case, it’s probably because of the time difference as Mr. Hamilton is in the US. I’m fine with your determination about listing the classes. I ‘’think’’ the others have already edited the Dragon Classes (Franchise) page. I did not change those conflicting class species on the Navbox template though yet, pending your answer.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  12:46, December 9, 2018 (UTC)

Category clarification
Hey, quick question: When there is a category that is essentially "Dragons from _____ media", is that intended to just be for dragon species appearing in that media, dragon characters appearing in that media, or both?

Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  16:37, December 10, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. I have another category for clarification - the "Monstrous Nightmare Dragons" category. Should this be only used for Franchise Nightmares, or include Book Nightmares? Thanks again!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  02:50, December 11, 2018 (UTC)

Administrative Action?
(Sorry on phone) Can you consider User:Skeeemo for blocking or some sort of action, please? This person has altered mostly Valka's Bewilderbeast and Berserker Bewilderbeast pages with the same speculative information many times in the last couple weeks. S/he has done it again twice today which Thorndrum corrected. I had left a message on his/her wall about it on November 25th or so and got no reply and s/he continues to edit the pages with the same info.

Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  21:51, December 10, 2018 (UTC)