User blog comment:Dual Energon/What I think makes HTTYD 2 the supremely better movie./@comment-24018437-20151113155518/@comment-24865409-20151126052130

@ Megadracosaurus

"I think quite some Germans would have wanted revenge after the Battle of Berlin."

They weren't treated harshly after World War 2, unlike after World War 1. So I'd think only a few were hungry for vengeance.

I already said that it is not odd that the Snot, the Twins and Astrid wish to fight.

And I'll concede that to live a life of battle was considered the Vikings' way of getting to Valhalla.

But I've got two issues with that.

1. I also said why do they think that getting an injury would be fun? That's just a sheer lack of common sense on their part.

2. If the vikings had to live a life of battle to get to Valhalla, why do the Berkians not fight much in the show? In fact, they are described as the "voice of peace" in the 2nd Movie, so as I mentioned in earlier comments, you can't apply real-life traditions to the movie.

"Like I said, Japan was already willing to negotiate their surrender."

Oh really? So how come they were still fighting our forces?

I can tell you, the history book that I have most recently read stated that we decided to drop the bomb because they were not willing to surrendur, nor did they tell their troops to stop fighting.

"That's all they are? Collateral damage? Would you not even try to reach your goal without or limiting killing innocents along the way?"

Of course I'd try to limit the amount of collateral damage - but there will still be collateral damage.

"And I wouldn't be proud of it."

Same here, but I still think it's necessary.

"But yet you approve that the US declared war on all of Iraq when said country was already fighting the same enemy, without even trying to work together against the terrorists?"

From what I've read of the news, nothing has been said about the Iraqi military fighting the terrorists.

I've only seen reports of US vs Iraqi terrorists.

World War 2 was necessary. I rooted for the Gemans (until they started killing children).

Revenge IS the RIGHT reason to go to war. And I'd happily do so.

Also, before World War 2, why would anyone feel the need to speak out against Hitler? He's just helping out his country? I pick Hitler's side... that is, until he started killing children.

And Germany needed to get more territory. Bastard British and French forced Germany to give away 13% of their territory after losing in WW1.

Revenge is a perfect reason to go to war, and I sided with Germany until they started killing children.

"Also keep in mind that many countries Hitler attacked weren't involved in WW1."

As I said: Collateral Damage.

"Not so fun fact: Nearly every war criminal, terrorist, dictator, general and military fanatic describes civilian casualties as 'just collateral damage'. So here ties in the 'Don't become what your hunting' expression again."

We've argued this point over and over so many times.

This time I'm gonna leave you with a quote for you to think about:

"Morality separates heroes from villains."

"So, again, if the tribes aren't really that social, it makes sense they're only worried about politics with tribes they have a relation with."

Yet we have never seen them interacting with any other tribe except Outcasts and Berserkers.

And yeah, Shivering Shores have been mentioned, but we haven't seen them.

Also, the Books had more tribes and more interactions - whether the tribes were friendly or not.

So that just makes a total of 4 tribes in the movie-verse. What a pretty barren archipelago.

"I don't recall a scene where Hiccup made clear he liked her for something else then her beauty and fighting skills."

And I don't recall a scene where she had much personality besides looking dazzling and being a fighter.

Astrid was literally nothing but a talented b**** who was conveniently turned into a love interest by movie's end.

"She's actually one of the people who doesn't express any anger or resentment towards Hiccup, and she's even been seen feeling a bit sorry for him, though she didn't defend him either."

Ahem. She does express anger and resentment towards him.

There wasn't a scene where she feels sorry for him.

And not defending Hiccup already adds onto how much of a b**** she is in the 1st Movie.

"Her reasons for avoiding Hiccup are most likely the same as the rest of the tribe: Hiccup causes trouble where people get hurt."

And meanwhile Ruff and Tuff hurt people with their pranks and are not ostracized for it? There goes sloppy writing again.

At least Hiccup's not intentional with his damage, and is a nice guy to hang around with.

Yet you side with the abusive bastards. Speaks a volume of words about what kind of person you are.

"I think an episode centered around Astrid's and Stormfly's relationship would actually be very interesting. So far, each of the characters has had an episode that explains the bond with their dragon. Hiccup and Toothless, being main characters, have multiple and Fishlegs and Meatlug, for some reason, as well. Yet while Astrid does have an episode centered around her past (Literally ONE episode), Stormfly is just...there."

As I said.

Not much development for either the kids or the dragons in the show.

"There actually have been episodes that focused on character development on Hiccup. Though its usually his relationship with another character, such as Toothless, Stoick or Snotlout, rather then himself, that changes."

The episdoes about Hiccup and Toothless have become stale, or to put it simply - forced down our throats. The format of said episodes are usually playful teasing, drama drama drama, and save each other. That has gotten old by now. Or at least repetitive.

Hiccup and Stoick episodes always consist of either sticking together, or Hiccup feeling inadequate as a son. Could we have some new formulas please? Such as Stoick feeling inadequate as a father (he has cocked up a lot quite a bit), or having some time away from each other?

Hiccup and Snotlout episodes. For pity's sake. Snotlout doesn't get any development at all while poor Hiccup has to repeatedly put up with the bastard's horrible tendencies, which is enough to prove that said episodes are repulsive ones.

"It shows how Hiccup came up with the flight suit and how Stoick got Skullcrusher. And its confirmed episodes that explain how the Dragon Blade was invented and how Gobber got Grump are coming up."

True, I forgot about Skullcrusher and the flight-suit.

And yeah, episodes about Gobber, Gump and Inferno are coming up.

I guess my main issue is that these important events just last an episode.

Stoick got Skullcrusher... but what about building up their bond?

Hiccup made the flight-suit prototypes... but that's only been seen and discussed in one episode.

Also, there have been no other interesting story arcs between these important events.

Season 3 has been feeling very episodic so far, which is not good.

"The reason dragons could communicate was obviously because Hiccup can speak Dragonese. He isn't able to do that in the movie!verse, and therefore can't communicate through speech, and the bond he has with Toothless is developed without any verbal contact. Which I personally think makes the bond seem stronger."

Being able to fully understand a dragon gives them a whole lot more personality.

You even admitted that Stormfly just exists in the show for simply existing.

It would be much better if Hiccup could communicate with dragons in the movie-verse.

And here's something I've always wanted: dragon-centric episodes. Which are episodes entirely from the dragons' POV.

It would be awesome to see and hear exactly what the dragons think and say.

While I personally think that the bond between Hiccup and Toothless would be stronger if they could communicate, let's just leave that to different opinions.

But what's clear is that the dragons need more personality. And we would be able to have more personality from the dragons if they could communicate.

"But to be fair, there are very few series where we see EVERYTHING that happens in a character's life."

Well then, the writers of this show should take a page out of the books of the writers of those "very few shows".

Because honestly, those "very few shows" are more entertaining to watch than this one.