User talk:DublynT

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User talk:Annabeth and Percy

That's a lot of quotes, lol. I'll add them all as soon as I can. Thank you!--http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/f/f8/Toothless_Glasses.gif/revision/latest?cb=20161110045342 Annabeth and Percy  🎵You're scared, I'm nervous, but I guess that we did it on purpose.🎵  http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/f/f8/Toothless_Glasses.gif/revision/latest?cb=20161110045342 15:19, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Hi :)
Oh, I have seen these before! ;)

They are behind the scene footage from HTTYD 2. I believe they are from a special DVD release.

AlexaDragons (talk) 20:21, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

Please stop putting whatever that stuff is on pages.--http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/f/f8/Toothless_Glasses.gif/revision/latest?cb=20161110045342  Annabeth and Percy  🎵You're scared, I'm nervous, but I guess that we did it on purpose.🎵  http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/f/f8/Toothless_Glasses.gif/revision/latest?cb=20161110045342 03:12, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

When adding pictures on a page, the underscores that you used are strictly unnecessary. The final can be put in with it's name, no underscores needed. For example, it should be done file:Hiccup and Astrid Kissing Blindisded.jpg, not file:Hiccup_And_Astrid_Kissing_Blindsided.jpg. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 11:33, April 9, 2017 (UTC)

Sandbox
Hi! I renamed your sandbox into User:DublynT / Sandbox Because if of now, the sandbox you create is registered as a normal article for Wiki content, whereas of you name it like so, it will be registered as part of your user page. Hope you understand! https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  22:31, April 23, 2017 (UTC)

Screenshots
Hi! I've seen that you've uploaded a few screenshots from various films and shorts, like those from Gift of the Night Fury. I really appreciate that, but here's a reminder to upload those screenshots to the respective pages too. For example, any screenshots from GOTNF that depict Hiccup, Toothless or any relevant characters whatsoever should be uploaded to the galleries of those respective articles too. Thanks! https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  06:49, May 14, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate it! https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  09:40, May 14, 2017 (UTC)

Hi, sorry to intrude, but I noticed you added categories to some of the pics I uploaded ... perhaps a stupid question but, am I supposed to be adding categories to uploaded pics?? I apologize if you had to do so with some of mine!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:01, May 14, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Picture Categories
WAIT. HOW DID YOU GET EMOJIS??

I'm not new to the Wiki (but perhaps newer than many) and its definitely a lot to learn and remember. I don't find it very user friendly. As far as the pics, I woke up this morning and saw a bunch of emails from the Wiki and was like, "What'd I do wrong now?" :P Totally fine you did that! I'm going to try and categorize pics from now on, too. I'll also as Woolly for more details on categorizing them. Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  21:06, May 14, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the message. But how ami I suppose to add the boxes in my profile page. It'll be great if you tell me how to. Thank you.

And P.S you are kind, polite and helpful. I guess, one day you'll be chosen to be an admin. I will be very happy if you become an admin. And by the way, I still obsess with you. My country cricket team arrived in Dublin. And they'll play there. When I heard that they reached in Dublin, I started thinking about you. And I invite you to Discord. It'll be awesome if you join there. - Parisa

I have seen your talk page. And yeah, you're not the only one with the editing problems. If you have visited my talk page, you'll see that some of my edits were not liked by the admins. And I'm very disappointed. And I'm sorry about the that you created. But in my eyes, you're perfect for being an admin. And you have earned lots of trophies. I've just created only 650. - 🐲Parisa🐲 (talk)

Barnacles
I see you added some info to the Barnacle (Franchise) page! Do you recall specifically where you saw them, so I might add more pics? If it was in an RttE episode, I could probably get it off Netflix and get a screenshot. Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:50, June 28, 2017 (UTC)

Tea
Hey, I saw you made a tea page! You seem to find lots of tidbits in the Franchise (like the name of that song with Tea in it). I am of the opinion, though, that the Tea page might be better categorized as an Object (as in a food item), rather than a plant. Tea often can refer to tea made from Black Tea leaves (as you mentioned), but as far as I know, we have no indication that the HTTYD Vikings are referring to Black tea. You also indicate that tea could be from many plants. The tea mentioned in "Snotlout's Angels" is specifically said to be 'herbal tea' which could be anything. Even the 'Yak Dung Tea' mentioned. Since tea is referring to a product of water and just about any kind of plant material (even digested plant matter!) I think it best to be an Object page, unless we get info that specific plants are used, in which case we could make a page for that plant. What do you think?

BTW, I did get two or three screenshots of the herbal tea that the Wingmaidens gave Snotlout!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:47, August 27, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I feel like it should be an Object page (like Yaknog and such) at least for now. However, it seems to make sense it can still have the "Plants" category though ...

Please feel free to grab the pics off my User Page. I'll get to it eventually if you don't. Also, there are some teas of plants from School of Dragons that can be discussed on the Tea page too! I don't remember right off the bat - lavender, I think? strawberries?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:48, August 27, 2017 (UTC)

I added info (rather hurriedly) but probably forgot something! Please feel free to use the pics on my profile page, but don't delete them unless they are everywhere they can be on the Wiki. I'm in the process of getting screenshot of less "important" things, and its a bit overwhelming - so much to add!!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  17:02, August 28, 2017 (UTC)

HiccstridFan92 (talk) 03:31, September 15, 2017 (UTC)

Congratulations for getting the featured user achievement!

Adelaidefan8 (talk) 09:05, September 16, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! And your edits are great as well. Keep it up! Adelaidefan8 (talk) 21:42, September 16, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Homeless Images
Wow, I didn't know you could do that! That'd help with clean-up, I think. For the images, I can use some of them, but many are repeats or already have better images. I can sort through them. User HTTYD Big Fan has recently been elevated to Content Moderator, so she is able to delete things now, so I'll get with her.

As for that weird black and white one ... not even sure what that is either? I don't think its HTTYD though?

If you haven't read the books, I would encourage you to do so! They are meant for a younger audience, but very good. They are certainly different from the Franchise, but you will see a lot of similarities and parallels.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:19, October 30, 2017 (UTC)

Quick Question
Hello! I'm doing up a gallery for the Great Hall and just a quick little question, where does this image: File:Great Hall Entrance.jpg come from? https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  14:59, December 4, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you so much! https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  02:27, December 5, 2017 (UTC)

Dagur's Armada
Hi Dublyn, you can call me "The Great and Only.... Dagur The Deranged!" or just Emma. :D

I don't actually know too much about his Armada, except that he has an Armada. Oh, I also know that Captain Vorg is the Captain of his Armada. Sorry, I don't know very much. That's why I looked for it, and couldn't find it. And I will be really busy Friday and Saturday. Thanks. Dagur The Deranged1 (talk) 04:53, December 15, 2017 (UTC)

I came up with a few more ideas. But first, this page is not great or even accurate. It's literary JUST about his ship in the game. I don't even play the game. So, I was wondering if this useless page could maybe be deleted OR become the page on Dagur's Armada. Of corse there would be a name change and all the page content would be overwritten, but the page is pretty useless if you ask me.

Next, we do have some good stuff to get us started here. All of Dagur's Armada is made of Berserker ships. I would say, because the Berserker tribe is one of the biggest, and because of all the ships in the pictures, his Armada is maybe about 50-75 ships big, if not bigger. When Dagur becomes chief of both the Berserkers and the Outcasts, I would say his Armada might contain more than 100. This is all the info I can get right now, but I will get more when the page is up, if it gets up. Thanks again. Dagur The Deranged1 (talk) 19:54, December 15, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Dublyn. Your always helping me. I wish I could do something else besides adding more info on the page when it's up. When the page is finally up, I'll be adding all the info I can think of. Thank you so so much! I really appreciate it (especially when Dagurs my favorite character). Dagur The Deranged1 (talk) 22:01, December 16, 2017 (UTC)

WOW! It's beautiful! I LOVE it! Thank you so so much! I don't know how to thank you enough! One thing though.... I'm not a very good editer, and there's one thing the page is missing: In the episode "Smoke gets in your eyes", almost Dagur's whole Armada is destroyed from the Smothering Smokebreaths. Once again, Thank you! Dagur The Deranged1 (talk) 22:47, December 16, 2017 (UTC)

Because we both came up with the info, I brought up the idea, and you made the page, does that give me the rights to say I helped create the page? I know you get the rights to say you made the page, because you did. But do I get the rights to say I made it too? Dagur The Deranged1 (talk) 23:07, December 16, 2017 (UTC)

Oh, and how do I get a 'contents' tab on my page? Dagur The Deranged1 (talk) 23:10, December 16, 2017 (UTC)

Ok, thanks again. How many times can I thank you? A thousand? Two thousand? How about ten thousand? Or have I thanked you enough already? I have thanked you a lot lately. Thanks again. And if it's that easiy to make a 'contents' whatever it was, that's amazing! Thanks. Dagur The Deranged1 (talk) 23:42, December 16, 2017 (UTC)

The 'contents' box diden't appear! I have three headers, but nothing happened. What do I do now? Dagur The Deranged1 (talk) 23:48, December 16, 2017 (UTC)

re: A Small Note
Thanks for letting me know. :) --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 18:31, December 28, 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dub! It’s me Parisa. Hahaha! Probably forgotten me. Ya know you’re one of a cool person in this fandom. So I’m requesting you to join the Discord. You’ll see another world where fans of httyd are much active and friendly. So I will be very happy if you join Discord. Bye!

At this point we have to wait and see what happens. It is incredibly strange that Dark Horse no longer is hanling Dragonvine, especially since they were supposed to sponsor all three graphic novels. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 14:53, January 11, 2018 (UTC)

Hi, I’m Parisa. I’m so sorry to say that I don’t have an FB account. How about just joining the Discord app. I mean it’s pretty cool. Just test yourself whether it’s fun or not. Have a nice day!

Yeah, I noticed that. Thanks!--

Where did you find the pic with the dragon hunters? Rhornby14 (talk) 19:53, January 31, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Problems
Yes, I tried to talk to that user, but he is a person you can't reason with. Unfortunately, content mods can't block/ban users, so we'll have to wait until Annabeth or HiccstridFan92 are online. I'm sorry!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  10:38, February 5, 2018 (UTC)

I can't find an option to turn off commenting (either it can only be done by admins or it just doesn't exist). I'll let a message for both Annabeth and HiccstridFan92 about this and hopefully one of them can do somthing about the user. Good night!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  11:11, February 5, 2018 (UTC)

Just letting you know that the problem has been solved and that Annabeth blocked the user. 😊

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  18:14, February 5, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah. I actually wasn't offended by him, only annoyed. Anyway, the block is for 6 months, so hopefully he won't do the same thing after it expires.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  19:08, February 5, 2018 (UTC)

I finally got a response from the other admins, and we agree. I've given you the rights. Welcome to the team!--

Yeah. It's just http://howtotrainyourdragon.wikia.com/d/g --

Hey Dublyn, I noticed the image that wasn't moving when I scrolled up and down; and that's pretty cool. Can you show or point me in the right direction of how to do that? Thanks!! ^^

( Brynabeth ❤ 23:26, February 13, 2018 (UTC))

(ok! thank you!)

I'm not aware of anything regarding the pictures. About the user, I didn't know she was bullying Httyd big fan. I will look into that. Thanks!--

Featured Articles
Hi! I first talked with Woolly since it was her idea in the first place and she agreed that we should change the featured articles at the beginning of every season (spring, summer, autumn, winter). Are you okay with that? If so, since March is only a few days away, what pages should we feature? I was thinking that the featured other should be Dragons: Race to the Edge, Season 6.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  13:06, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

just a heads up. the part about Vikings line span is for both the show and real life Vikings. putting it in the same dot point makes it sound like its only for the shows Vikings.

Problem taken care of
Mala's page has been fixed and moved back to the proper namespace. The user who vandalized Mala's page has been blocked. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 18:05, February 27, 2018 (UTC)

I did notice that the user vandalized those two other pages you mentioned, and took that into account when blocking the user. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 19:02, February 27, 2018 (UTC)

That user has been blocked. First off, for that illegal topic post in discussions. But more to the point the user has been permanently blocked for the most part because their username is unacceptable. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 18:36, March 1, 2018 (UTC)

Twins' Mother page
Hey, I see you made a page for The Twins' Mother. I was going to see if I could get a screen shot or two for the page with the subtitles on of the quotes. I only have access to RttE and Dragon Racers. I see you referenced a sentence about the womb from Imperfect Harmony. However, when I downloaded it and looked through the episode, I couldn't find a womb reference, nor is it mentioned in the Imperfect Harmony (transcript). Were you thinking of another episode, perhaps?

Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:36, March 3, 2018 (UTC)

Actually, I just did a quick search on the Wiki for "mom" and saw 2 or 3 other RttE mentions of the Twin's Mom. (Also another for Snotlout's Mom.) I can get to these, but it'll be later this evening. Since you made the page and are working on it, just wanted to mention it! (sorry, on the work computer after hours) One episode was Bad Moon Rising, I think.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:46, March 3, 2018 (UTC)

I Have A Question
Hi DublynT! I'm a member of the HTTYD Wiki and I would first like to say thank you because you comment a lot on my posts. (which not a lot of people do) Also I have question and I'm wondering about this. On your main page you have a picture of Hiccup that appears on the Screen. I was wondering if there is a way to put that on my page or is it just for Admins. I wanted to add a Monstrous Nightmare on my page, but I was wondering if I can. I just need that to be clarified also thanks.

From Dotcat

P.S. I love the gif of Toothless on your page.

Done. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 11:50, March 18, 2018 (UTC)

Hi :)
I spoke to one of ours admins and he agreed to delete the RR page for now. Since you created the page I would like to apologize that it has been taken down and also reassure you we will restore it exactly the way you created it once we get an announcement. After seeing screencaps of this wikia circling around on social media it became very clear that many young fans are using our wikia as the primary source for RR, which puts a lot of pressure on the wikia. It's also creating premature hopes/disappointments that might all be in vain in the end. I hope you understand why this decision was made. Also, thanks for being a great discussion moderator and welcome aboard the team. :) --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 01:48, March 19, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Freya'sday Fete
No worries, I saw that you were fixing links, which is of course a good thing, and that you fixed some I will (eventually) create pages for. But then I was thinking about how to let you know which pages, when I can't remember what the heck I just did ...

So yeah, sometimes I will intentionally add a link to a page not created yet, with the intent to create said page soon! Freya'sday Fete is one. There was another, but I can't remember what it is. To put what I am doing in context - I am planning on going through all the books and pulling out any information I can. The Wiki's book pages are pretty bad. So I am re-reading each book, taking notes and adding info to the Wiki. I just haven't quite gotten to the appearance of the Freya'sday Fete event yet in my notes. I guess I could create the page and leave it blank until I get there, but I really prefer not to. We already have enough stubs, some that have been sitting around for years :/

Also, since I have your ear and you seem to knowledgeable about D:RoB and D:DoB - do you recall any mention of the holiday "Dreadfall" anywhere? Or is it a game-made HTTYD holiday? I know in the games it is kind of derived from the appearances of the Flightmare ("Fright of Passage"). Or any Halloween-type holiday/events in the series?

Thanks so much!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  16:21, March 21, 2018 (UTC) -- I'm doin this cus I can. my favourite dragon is chicken Dragonnewt (talk) 16:30 March 21, 2018 (UTC) --

Actually, I'd also like to ask you, since you did most of the editing/content on Viggo's Terrible Terror - should we include the Terrible Terror Viggo used in "Triple Cross" to send a fake message to Hiccup? Should that Terror get its own page? Or should it be mentioned on the Terror Mail page only?

Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:43, March 21, 2018 (UTC)

I'll have to double check. Also, apparently Viggo used a Terrible Terror to deliver a message in "Defenders of the Wing, Part 1" as well, which I'll check out, too!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:31, March 23, 2018 (UTC)

So - facepalm! Yes, Viggo sent a fake Terror mail to Hiccup in "Triple Cross" while he was stranded on an island. However, the Terror itself is never seen, only the message. So, I guess it should be noted on Viggo's Terrible Terror page as Trivia or something and mentioned on Terror Mail, if nothing else. The Terror delivering a message from Viggo in "Defenders of the Wing, Part 1" is the standard generic green color. Could be Viggo's or it could be just a Dragon Hunter Terror. Pics already exist of it on the Wiki. There are other Dragon Hunter Mail Terrors that are just the generic green, so its hard to say.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:29, March 24, 2018 (UTC)

PS. Only if you want to - would you be able to fill out the "History" heading on the Terror Mail page? I think it was first mentioned in the Franchise in "Worst in Show"?? Or some episode or other in Rider or Defenders ... I haven't watched those in a few years. If you are able to do that, then the page looks filled enough to have the 'article stub' tag removed.

Sven
Hey, I'd like to call upon your Riders and Defenders knowledge again, if that's okay. Would you be able to verify Sven's appearance in "Smoke Gets in Your Eyes", "Cast Out, Part 1", and "Cast Out, Part 2"? I would like to tease out actual Sven appearances versus maybe Sven or maybe generic background Viking appearances. I've also asked logo8th since he created the page. I just don't remember these series as much.

Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:26, March 25, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that. No rush at all! Just trying to clear up a few Article Stub pages (we have over 100). They aren't going anywhere! Thank you! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  17:08, March 25, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much for doing that!!!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:44, March 26, 2018 (UTC)

That discussion was not pointless it was ment to talk about chicken #chickensneeddiscussionstoo Dragonnewt (talk) 17:10, March 26, 2018 (UTC)

Ok I'll stop and yes it was pretty dumb also I hope copy and pasting the entire Declaration of Independence onto my talk page isn't against the rules because I just did Dragonnewt (talk) 18:21, March 26, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. --

How do you know they're the same?--

I see what you mean. I am trying to decide the best course of action. Whether that be a block or warning. I rather give a warning to that user first because letting them know what they are doing is wrong, and giving them a chance to stop, is better than giving a block. Plus, a warning should be given in most cases before a block is even considered. Anyway, thanks for letting me know. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 16:38, April 2, 2018 (UTC)

Art thief is back on discussions Luna wolf already found the original creator https://mllebeckier.deviantart.com/art/How-to-train-your-dragon-2-drawing-54293066 --Dragonnewt (talk) 12:59, April 4, 2018 (UTC)

DRAGONS RACE TO THE EDGE: SEASON 6 TRIVIA ISSUE
Fine I'll stop. In return I think it's only fair that you tell me why this is not valid triva. FYI it was already there I just revised it slightly so it would make sense. So don't take it all out on me. Blu100-Jewel100 (talk) 13:17, April 4, 2018 (UTC)

Just to note, I just left a warning on the talk page of the user who is taking fan art and posting it on discussions and claiming it as their own when it is clearly not. If this user continues doing this I will have no choice but to block the user. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 14:35, April 4, 2018 (UTC)

After some careful thought and looking at the Fandom terms of use, the user you told me about is in violation of the Fandom terms of use. Stealing pictures and calling them her own is art theft, and can also be called as a form of plagiarism. This issue is one that is bigger than most, and needs to be reported to the Fandom staff, so they know about this one user's blatant violation of the Fandom Terms of Use. Then they can determine what the best thing is to do and possibly hand them an infinite block, and not just for this wiki, but for all wikis. The terms of use are important, and we on this wiki won't tolerate them being broken, and neither will the Fandom Staff. To note, if one violates the Famdom Terms of Use they can lose their rights and be blocked permanently. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 18:23, April 4, 2018 (UTC)

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Hey how ya doin uh this guy is posting jibberish on slenderyt discussion http://howtotrainyourdragon.wikia.com/wiki/User:Omid%20SAdGHi --Dragonnewt (talk) 14:43, April 13, 2018 (UTC)

The dude just posted a discussion that has nothing to do with httyd with this picture http://someture.com/account/shahab._.mehrabi/6710773382/followers --Dragonnewt (talk) 14:52, April 13, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Snogglesong
Subspecies are confusing and always bring many questions, like many other things in the Httyd universe. So far, the only subspecies seen outside the games are the Night Swarm and the Fire Terror, neither of them being specifically named in the show.

In my opinion, subspecies should be treated like a species page. And that's because I think of the dragons like I think of real animals. For example, the elephant. There are two types of elephants: African Elephant and Asian Elephant. However, the majority of people call the African elephant simply elephant and think of the Asian elephant as a relative/closely related species. Still, they are both in the same family and have mostly the same appearance. And that's the concept I use for dragons too. Take the Death Song and the Slithersong. They have the same abilities and almost the same appearance, excepting a few details like the horn and the wings. But, they are in the same family, let's say the Death Song family, which would also include Snogglesong. Another example would be the Night Terror which has three subspecies: Night Swarm, Fire Terror and Heartwarmer. All four closely related dragons belong in the same family, the Night Terror family, even though they have different abilities and habitats. Of course, this is only my speculations, so nothing is officially clarified by DreamWorks (yet!).

So, again, I think the subspecies should be treated as species, and only if there are specifically named individuals, like Darkvarg, a character page for that individual alone should be created. I hope I answered your question.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  19:13, April 14, 2018 (UTC)

Hey, sorry, I'm horning in on the conversation. I hope no one minds!

So character versus species/subspecies is confusing in the Franchise and most especially in the game, Dragons: Rise of Berk. For the specific examples you sited - the Snogglesong is a subspecies. The subspecies designation is given, technically, by the Wikia because this dragon is a type of Death Song/Slithersong which is different in a number of ways from the standard version. We are calling the Snogglesong a subspecies and not a character because it is implied there is more than one. Also, (I'm pretty sure) the player can have more than one Snogglesong in the game (though this reasoning doesn't hold true for all dragons ...). And it is not the only dragon from it species, which is the Death Song/Slithersong. We take a close look at the description of the dragon, and in this case, ROB has said: "Snogglesongs like keeping their prey on ice after encasing them in amber pellets. Talk about frozen dinners!", clearly indicating there is more than one and this representation is not meant to be a character. Not to mention we are not going to have a character page for every single dragon in ROB, otherwise we'd be having a page for the Nadder in the game or the Monstrous Nightmare in the game, and so on. They are just a group's (species/subspecies/population) representation in the game. Unfortunately, some of this logic can get extremely tricky depending on the dragon from ROB and its corresponding description. Its bad enough for some dragons that its a whole can of worms waiting to be open as far as what to consider them, and we have no way, that I know of, to verify directly with Ludia about what they intended.

As for the Red Death, the page for it is pretty much a species page, though there is some character categories in there. Technically, yes, the Red Death is actually a formal name of the single individual representative of an unnamed species. So the species is called Red Death for lack of anything else, as well as that particular individual is also named the Red Death. Having a species page and a character page would be way too redundant and confusing. So probably having categories for both species and characters in that case would be appropriate.

As for Viggo's Titan Wing Shellfire and Wild Sandbuster, those two pages were created very recently by new users, one of which just dropped a ton of new pages and never added anything to them. Personally I thought it was overkill, but no admins put forth any objections. Technically those users were not wrong, nor breaking any rules (because there aren't any). However, none of the admins or senior editors would have made those pages (or we already would have!). We only see one individual of the Sandbuster and one individual of the Shellfire, so technically yes they are characters. But their info and the info that is on the species pages are overlapped. That said, at this point, it'd sort of be a waste to delete the pages now, since people have put in effort on those. Another example taking a different route (more or less) is the Luminous Krayfin, a species seen in School of Dragons. There is only one representative (well, technically two if you count a skeleton of one) of this species. However, at one point, this individual is specifically named Lumie, further solidifying his as a character deserving of a separate page. At least I thought so, cuz I made it! So, in my opinion, if that Sandbuster or that Shellfire had been properly named, then I'd say definitely it needs its own character page, or if there were other Sandbusters or Shellfires in the show, of course.

Your overarching point though - consistency - is difficult to achieve. There is no hard rule on the Wiki concerning species/subspecies versus characters. Making one, however, at this point would have a lot of exceptions. And, as mentioned previously, a lot of the ROB dragons could easily go either way and be a point of debate. I guess at the moment, a case by case decision is best? As for the category "Dragon Characters from the Franchise", that might need to be cleaned up a little? I haven't looked through it thoroughly.

Is this helpful or more confusing? Again, sorry for interrupting. I had to type it out or it would be knocking around in my head as I am trying to sleep!!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  03:24, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I thought that you didn't know what the subspecies in the Httyd universe are. My bad!

Well, except for the Night Swarm, the Fire Terror and the Slithersong, all the subspecies are from Rise of Berk, meaning that they won't ever have an individual. As for the one that has the name of the subspecies, I think it's the same with the one that has the name of a species, in which case I would say it is just a generic dragon that shows how the species/subspecies look like and behave like, not an actual individual that would have another name.

So, again, subspecies pages should be treated like species pages, except for the infobox and navbox. As for the categories, there's already the Dragon Subspecies one, which I think it's enough, considering that there are no subspecies in the book series, thus a category like "Dragon Subspecies from the Franchise" isn't necessary.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:23, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

Discussion Rules?
Hey, I'm not sure if it is just my computer or not, but the "Discussions Guidelines page" is all stretched out and I can scroll to read it.

Also, I was checking because I was wondering what the policy is concerning talking about hacking? There is one discussion at present asking about Dragons: Rise of Berk and some users have stated that they hack this game. Obviously hacking is wrong, but on a personal level it is especially irksome because I also play this game (and pay for Netflix, and buy the comics, etc) and pay and play to earn the things I have, while others try to get a free ride. Yeah yeah, I know this is type of behavior is rampant and common in humans and worldwide, but still ...

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:53, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, I just realized I wrote "can scroll to read it" - I meant CAN'T! I checked on my phone - browser is Safari - and it looks fine, just not on my PC. There wasn't a link to it exactly - one appeared at the top when first viewing the Discussions section but could be X'd out. If that it done, I don't see it anywhere. I haven't actually downloaded the app, either! Perhaps I ought to, but I was under the impression if the page isn't formatted for mobile it won't show up on the app? This would include the "Wiki Activity" page. As it is in a mobile browser, I personally don't care for the mobile version of pages and usually click to view the full site (though that has been temperamental for me lately).

As for the Snogglesong, thanks for reading. That particular dragon though is one I am personally adamant about not being classified as a character, but see where you are coming from. As for consistency, yeah, to my knowledge there was never an actual rule, just one of those unwritten "rules" you pick up after being on here awhile. That's probably why no one except a new editor made the Wild Sandbuster page. Consistency within DreamWorks and its representations in games would be very nice and clarity, but we probably aren't going to get that :( And I hear ya about ignored written rules ...

Incidentally, the Wild Sandbuster page isn't even totally complete, so I threw a "Stub" tag on it!

As far as hacking talk - I kind of remember there being a note or comment or something about not linking to illegal sites to watch RttE? Am I mis-remembering? I think this instance might fall under that because someone else specifically mentioned some sort of program or something to hack with.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:38, April 16, 2018 (UTC)

Detective findings
This user http://howtotrainyourdragon.wikia.com/wiki/User:HopeHaddok a long time ago posted a pice of art she claimed took her three weeks to make and found its most probable she didn't make it at all https://www.pinterest.com/pin/289778557243919576/ it should be the first picture --Dragonnewt (talk) 17:58, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

..
Don't you think I thought of that I already found that picture was from someone by the name of tenynn who made the edit for that picture and I haven't found the original creator but I doubt it's her. It says on her profile that she has a Pinterest of the same name but no deviantart account in witch I found the picture --Dragonnewt (talk) 18:54, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

HTTYD tidbit
http://variety.com/2018/film/news/how-to-train-your-dragon-3-1202753864/

VERY quickly - came across the above and thought of you and your sleuthing ;) At work on a break (sort of)!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  19:58, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

Ahh, I see the Wiki is all over this tidbit! Yeah, I had seen that Discussions post about TJ Miller and his erratic behavior. Personally, I'm fine if they ditch him, especially if he has been accused of sexual harassment. I'm sure there are plenty of reputable voice actors with similar voices.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:51, April 18, 2018 (UTC)

I saw what you said in the post of someone complaining about plagiarism, and hating it. I saw you mentioned that there was issue several weeks ago that was resolved and the user got in trouble with the Fandom Staff. I am not sure what you are referring to with that because I don't know of anyone being reported to Fandom Staff and getting in trouble. For the other things you mentioned, creating a youtube video to humiliate you just because they don't like how you moderate the discussions, is just wrong, and I hope that video got removed or blocked by Youtube. Anyway, it is concerning that people take the way things are moderated, and how the rules are applied personally. Of course, you are never going to have everyone agree with you on a certain thing and in some cases a person leaves because they don't like the way something is handled. Of course someone doing something to humiliate those for the same reason is just wrong. A person can disagree, but humiliating someone else with a video, and other things is just wrong. Someone doing that is doing what is called cyber bullying, and doing it indirectly. Sure, I have to deal with the repercussions of users who I had to take action against, or had to undo bad edits of before, but not anything like you got hit with. But anyway, you are doing a good job moderating the discussions board, and that is what matters. Just keep on moderating discussions according to the rules, and don't let a few users who end up hating you, or leaving because of the way you moderate, put you down. You can't please all users while doing that, but the majority of the users who use discussions won't have any problems with you and the way you moderate. I can't stress it enough that having you as a discussions moderator has been a big help because I can't always check discussions, and that the discussions board is in much better shape than it was before you became a discussions moderator. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 19:31, April 20, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry to eavesdrop :) but wow.. I had no idea she had made a video about me! Although, I'm can't say I'm surprised, considering her general aggressiveness and troll-ish behavior (spamming links) in the past. It still doesn't give her the right to make videos about someone without their consent and try to humiliate them. I'm pretty sure it's against YouTube's policies. Anyway, her insistence that I must be lying is amusing, especially as she has no substantial proof to back up any of her own previous theories and claims. Everything I have said was based on interviews, tweets and hours of research. If you are interested, we could even talk about it in the Dragon Chat (I don't want to give my stalker new, original material for a video 😄). I would never make anything up out of thin air. Why would I? What could I possibly get out of that, especially for something that I'm so indifferent about? I have been discussing several theories with other fans and they don't always agree with me but they definitely don't try to spin it into something more personal or make it into a bigger deal than it is. It's just harmless discussions about fictional characters and worlds, and in this case about something that's purely founded on rumors. I think this girl just could not handle that you locked the thread and this video was meant as a 'punishment/revenge' more than anything. I saw comments calling me names and the 'B' word, which was pretty much her intention with this video. To have people hate on me. Unfortunately for her, I'm too old for this and really couldn't care less what kids on YouTube say about me. It is, however, unfortunate that her young subscribers might be inspired to act similarly towards someone else in the future.

I'm truly sorry you got dragged into this. Her attacking you was completely uncalled for. You were just doing your job, and like HiccstridFan92 said, you have been a great help to our community. Not only on the Discussion Boards but also on the Wikia itself. --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 13:28, April 21, 2018 (UTC)

Yep, I was blissfully unaware of its existence until this point. I think they might've assumed I already knew or they just chose not to give it more attention. Either way, I think everyone did the right thing by staying silent. At the end of the day, it's just a major overreaction to something so insignificant.😆

Same, tbh.😂 I did actually enjoy ROB/DOB and prefer them over RTTE. They are much more true to the movies. RTTE is an entertaining filler, though!

Right now, I'm looking forward to the third movie. Cinemacon starts tomorrow and I'm hearing we might be getting a trailer soon. I can't wait! I really hope Hiccup doesn't have a beard.😂 --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 14:03, April 22, 2018 (UTC)

How dare you remove my edits! I'm just here to harass another user, that's all. Cheetawolfnitrotyper is a bad bureaucrat (talk) 21:12, April 22, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I looked through that users edits, and took into consideration what you told me about that users behavior. That user is now blocked permanently. I can tell that that user only came here for the reasons you said above after being blocked on the other wiki, and not to edit this wiki. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 23:47, April 22, 2018 (UTC)

I am fine with you becoming a rollback, especially since you have a lot of edits, and shown you are a trusted user. You can ask Annabeth for rollback rights, and mention that I have given my approval. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 00:59, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Done! Thanks!--

Re: Drop Down Menu
Hi! 😊 Unfortunately, content mods are not allowed to edit anything related to the Wiki's appearance (theme, drop bar, notifications etc). 😞 You may ask an admin for this problem. I also noticed a minor issue: at the franchise events and practices section, Regatta is spelled Regetta and it leads to a broken link. If you don't mind, can you add this minor thing when you will message an admin, too?

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:57, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Garff
Shouldn't garff be under trained dragons for the dragon riders? I don't know. your more familiar with the rules then I am. Also congrats on roll back --Dragonnewt (talk) 14:03, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

What I ment was each rider has a part in their info box about the dragons they have trained and since garff is a trained dragon shouldn't he be in that part of the info box?--Dragonnewt (talk) 15:54, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

I gotcha --Dragonnewt (talk) 16:04, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

I took care of the two broken links. I will try to add a link for the discussions rules. I don't have time tonight, but will have time tomorrow afternoon. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 01:28, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Your Fault!
Ah ha ha! My powers of influence are working! Hope you got the other comics, too! ;)

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:49, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

I just blocked the user who was causing trouble as it was the same user with a different account, which is sock puppetry, so a permanent block was warranted in this case. That user also asked for my password on another wiki I am on. I removed that messagge, saying why and hit the box that said notify an admin, so I can hopefully have that user be dealt with on that wiki. That user left a note on my talk page here making it easy to identify that user as doing sock puppetry. Also, that user was also was using my username, like used an username for an admin on another wiki for their other account. That was the other giveaway that it was the same person who I blocked the other day. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 10:28, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for undoing that troll's edits on my user page. :P Cheetawolfnitrotyper (talk) 12:21, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Whaat?
I saw hiccstridfan was blocked what happened? Is it a glitch? --Dragonnewt (talk) 16:09, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Uh oh
I just did some detective crap and both hiccstrids are blocked maybe by blocking one it blocked the other? --Dragonnewt (talk) 16:29, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Reply
Apparently both User:HiccstridFan92 and User:Hiccstridfan92 are blocked. Cheetawolfnitrotyper (talk) 16:56, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Regarding global blocks
Hi, really, only the user themselves can ask for a removal of global block. The reason why is because staff will need access to the block id, or else they it will take them much longer to find the correct global block and remove it. Only the user themselves has access to the block id, because it's personal information. Cheetawolfnitrotyper (talk) 17:45, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

I am back. When I saw what had happened. I went right away to contact Fanom. I am glad they took care of the problem pretty quickly. The person who took my case said that they have the option to make username blocks case sensitive, and that option was not used. So, that person modified the block to be case sensitive, thus removing the block from my account, and IP address. It is what it is. I will work on getting the link for the discussions rules into the polices menu in the navigation menu at some point this afternoon. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 18:23, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Uh. . . wow. I didn't even think you could do that. Thanks!--

Re: Rollin' on Back ...
Thanks!

Actually, I was thinking about maybe asking to be a Content Mod. I keep asking everyone else (well, pretty much HTTYDbigFan) to delete pages or images and such. Also sometimes I do a little 'policing', and it kind of feels like it would be helpful to have a title or a tiny bit of clout behind it, instead of some untitled user paying attention to their business. Content Mods can do rollbacks. What do you think? Maybe two is enough, though?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:41, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you :)

I also hope TheWoollyHowl is able to become more active again (of course RL takes precedence!). She is friendly and was heavily involved in creating templates and site appearance and all that.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:03, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! I added all the user page 'ornaments' you suggested :) But dang, don't we have a better pic for the Dragon Manual we could use?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:40, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Pssst!
Oh, well, I didn't know that. Thank you for informing me!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  03:47, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Regarding the troll
The troll can get very annoying sometimes. But the only reason why the troll can get globally blocked in the first place is because the troll is also using other accounts to disrupt other wikis (such asthis one). I sent a message to vstf regarding the trolls on the other wikis, and I asked them to check and see if all of the accounts are being operated under the same person or group of people. Cheetawolfnitrotyper (talk) 12:40, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Ahh, but I didn't get to use rollback as he/she/it was only making one edit per page. However, Content Mod 'powers' did come in handy re-renaming pages the troll messed with, and didn't have to leave a redirect! And, I had actually just gotten into bed for the night and just had to have one laaaast look at my phone and then troll happened. I'm glad HiccstridFan was on, 'cuz it looked like were were just going to keep undoing each others edits ... Its kind of sad this person has nothing better to do with his/her life than just vandalize Wiki pages.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:40, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

That page that one troll created is one I can't do anything with. So, we have to let the Fandom Staff know so they can delete it. The person two new accounts, with inappropriate names have been blocked. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 13:37, May 5, 2018 (UTC)

Can you tell me about some news and changes in httyd Council or even future projects?Youngtrainer (talk) 09:55, May 6, 2018 (UTC)

Thx it really helped me and I am still waiting to see the movie, cuz Httyd 2 made to join in yhis crew by the way... The other members cannot put me in Berk Council? I want to say that for six months ago but I want really to improve some abilyties but the visual content remains my speciality. Farewell deer Dublyn!Youngtrainer (talk) 17:40, May 6, 2018 (UTC)

Idk
I’m confused about this page http://howtotrainyourdragon.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_Train_Your_Dragon_3 it said it was created only minutes ago but the comments lead back to December as of writing this I think the user who created it remade the old httyd3 page. --Dragonnewt (talk) 15:12, May 10, 2018 (UTC)

I blocked that user and I semi-protected your user page. I semi-protected your user page to prevent the troll from vandalizing your user page. Semi-protection keeps new and unregistered users from editing a page. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 01:26, May 14, 2018 (UTC)

In terms of the picture, there is a placeholder image already, which is called No Screenshot.png. In terms of that user, they violated the rules, and one of the accounts will have to be blocked for sock puppetry. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 11:41, May 20, 2018 (UTC)

Featured Articles - Summer 2018
Hi! As you know, we are only a few days away from the beginning of summer, meaning that a new set of Featured Articles needs to be discussed. As you may have noticed, last week I was cleaning up Heather's page, so, if I may, I suggest her as the Featured Character, considering that she is a very popular character in the Httyd Fandom. However, I have been a little more busy than usual and I haven't thiught about the Featured Dragon and Featured Other. Do you have any ideas?

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  10:31, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

I like your idea about Cressida Cowell being featured. I'll still wait for Annabeth and Hiccstrid to answer and then we'll see.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  16:46, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

Hi! There is a petition going on about new season of Dragons race to the Edge. If you haven't signed it yet please do so in the following link:

https://www.change.org/p/dreamworks-tv-show-after-how-to-train-your-dragon-2-and-before-how-to-train-your-dragon-3

Patoadam (talk) 17:47, May 30, 2018 (UTC)

Tiny Crumb for HTTYD3
Hey! I play School of Dragons and this week, the forum admin 'takes over' SOD social media. This evening he posted a message that sounds like it is reference HTTYD3, and very vaguely talking about what it means for the game. Nothing really new, but in case you want to see: Brynjolf Takes-Over: Day Three!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  02:21, May 31, 2018 (UTC)

PS: Maybe he's referencing Dragonvine, but, you know, the whole "world hidden away" bit ...

Ahhh, so was the poster the picture you were researching? I am in the camp of not liking the white fury or whatever she is and not liking these sort of cliche plot things. But I will still watch the movie and like it to some kind of extent! What I am trying to remember, wasn't it stated somewhere officially that this female is a "love interest" of Toothless, or was that extrapolated from fans? Also, is this dragon officially called a "Light Fury" or is she still - as of now - officially a "Night Fury"? What I'm getting at is should info about this dragon go under the Night Fury page and should the Light Fury page be postponed for the time being? I just don't remember extactly the official versus speculation and you are kind of an expert HTTYD detective! ;)

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:56, May 31, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, so that is what I couldn't remember, if the footage from CinemaCon actually said "Light Fury" or some of the people describing the footage called it a "Light Fury". Also the Official DW HTTYD3 synopsis says "the appearance of a female Night Fury", but another quote on the HTTYD:HW page says "an untamed, elusive mate" but this is from a non-DW source from 12/2016 with a synopsis that doesn't have a source. I figured you know all the deets!

Someone somewhere said "female trope" which kind of puts a name to some of what I don't like (at least what can be inferred from the poster). Meaning she looks "girly". Sure in real life there is a lot of sexual dimorphism, but we never see that with any other dragon in the Franchise, not even in Gift of the Night Fury. It looks like they over did making her look 'feminine', and subsequently weak and delicate and childishly cute. Way to go using gender stereotypes for the kids :(

And the white color, agreed something dark like dark blue or dark red or heck even dark pink (Bleh), or silver. Though the Vikings supposedly haven't seen a Night Fury, everyone in the movies and TV shows somehow know what a Night Fury is when they see it, and that is probably due to the coloring. The one thing Vikings do know about Night Furies is they blend in with the night and are very stealthy. Not that white thing! Seems like fan service. Can't wait to see how they explain the color!

Also the plot already seems fairly ascertainable already - Hiccup and Toothless learn to rule their respective dominions. Very bad guy shows up and threatens Berk and threatens/kills dragons and wants to kill all dragons. Meanwhile Hiccup and Toothless/Dragon Riders discover the Hidden World, a vast underground space under the Archipelago, as well as the white female Night Fury, giving hope to the species not becoming extinct. They fight the very bad guy and decide to send all dragons into the Hidden World because ultimately dragons aren't safe from humans. Hiccup and Toothless are separated for the most part but probably leaves it open to visitations. I guess the surprises will be in the details and little things in the movie ...

(And then to speculate even farther - maybe "Rescue Riders" will be a spin-off of the Riders or a new group rescuing dragons and taking them to the Hidden World ...)

Ahhh, getting too carried away. Anyway, I'll poke around and see if I am able to change up the Discussions categories!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:52, June 1, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, looks like only Admins can change the categories: http://howtotrainyourdragon.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Admin_and_Moderator_Tools_in_Discussions#Discussion_categories

Sorry to bother you again, but I just possibly noticed something I was hoping you could either confirm or refute. We know Valka in How to Train Your Dragon 2 looked at Toothless' facial nubs and said he is about Hiccup's age. So I looked at the images on the Wiki from HTTYD1 and HTTYD2 and as far as I can tell, there are three small nubs on each side of his jay in HTTYD2 that he didn't have in HTTYD3. I can't really tell from the HTTYD3 poster (hope the artwork is way better in the actual movie). If I am seeing correctly, this implies that DeBlois and the writers/developers are paying attention to features that age up Toothless. This might also imply and apply to this white nightlight fury? What do you think?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:30, June 2, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, you are right. The movie will be good. I guess it just depends where on the scale of good - is it "yay!" or "YAY!" :P

About DeBlois rewriting - I'm not sure of the time frame, but do you think it had anything to do with Universal buying up Dreamworks and having a shift in the movie's 'priorities'?

As for Rufflout, I don't know, Rufflegs (or whatever it is) was kind of cute in RttE, I think it was "Snotlout Gets the Axe"!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:33, June 3, 2018 (UTC)

On phone - more possible tidbits? From the SOD Forum.

http://forum.schoolofdragons.com/content/httyd-3-spoiler-amazon

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  19:30, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

Oops, sorry, you’ve seen it already!

Taron Egerton
Hi Dublin! I know you have good detective skills and I was wondering if you could find out if Taron Egerton indeed has a role in How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World. The page was created a while ago, with almost no information on it and I would like to know if it is necessary to have it.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  03:39, June 3, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! I deleted the page. And yes, you are the best investigator on this wiki!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:59, June 3, 2018 (UTC)

Featured articles
Hey DublynT. Um. Im newer here so thats why i'm telling you, but there was a small typo on the Featured Articles page on the home page, in the summary of Cressida Cowell and author is spelled wrong. I wasnt sure who to tell and sorry this isnt a big deal. Just thought id let you know. sorry to bother you.

Nuttetuff (talk) 22:11, June 4, 2018 (UTC)Nuttetuff

HTTYD 3 again ...
This makes me feel better:



Well, at least a little. Makes this female trope/sexual dimorphism/coloration and other physical differences more reasonable to wrap my brain around. Different but similar species makes sense, and though different it makes sense Toothless might be attracted to a similar species in the absence of a female of his own species. They might even produce viable, albeit sterile offspring ... (Common example is horse x donkey = mule).

The rest of the trailer ... too complicated to type out on my phone :)

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  02:57, June 8, 2018 (UTC)

Ahhhh ... on a keyboard for a little bit!

So, the trailer! Bearded Hiccup is nice, and as a Viking I expected him to have a beard at some point, since culturally it shows manliness and power. Also, we assume bearded Hiccup is older and Toothless is still there, indicating they aren't completely separated after the movie! (Or, young adult Hiccup grows a beard in the beginning and then shaves it off cuz its not his style ...).

I am also wondering about the Franchise overall - is it assumed dragons only exist in the Barbaric Archipelago, or are there dragons assumed elsewhere in the world? Logistically, it would be difficult to get all dragons all over the world to disappear. The Book series also had this problem in logic. A few snippets in the Book universe mentioned or implied dragons occurring elsewhere in the world, but the author's ending of making the dragons 'disappear' likewise seemed to only apply to those of the Archipelago. Both the Franchise and Books explanations for no more dragons don't make sense logically - if you think about it too much - and there isn't really a good (kid-friendly) way to remove all dragons.

So, as mentioned before, I'm okay now with the Light Fury since Dean commented about her on the Reddit thingie. Still think she's over-feminized, but its okay, cuz she's a different species. We can pretend the male Light Furies can look effeminate too :) Toothless trying to impress her is silly - silly and cute in a good way. I thought her smacking him just like a cat was cute too. Not sure if you have cats, but the single-paw-lift and then pap!-pap!-pap! in annoyance is so cat-like. I hope there are other vinigettes of Toothless doing courtship-type dances we've yet to see!

The apparent teleportation - still don't like it, if that is what she's actually doing. I read somewhere, some fan suggesting she goes light speed rather than actually teleporting. Teleporting is a very sci-fi ability, so I think it might still fall under the blanket of Dean's comments about the Franchise being science-y and realistic-ish.

I was surprised to see a TV dragon in the movies, though (Fireworms)! Wonder if there will be others. Wonder why they added them now?

Not sure what I think about Grimmel (assuming that is Grimmel). Looks one-dimensional just in the trailer. The dragon behind him - at first I was like, yay new dragon! - but those tusks ... how the heck can it eat anything or catch anything to eat??

At the little glimpse we get in the trailer ... it almost looks like he treats dragons okay?? At least some of them. That dragon behind him didn't look subjugated and it almost looked like Grimmel was going to give him a pat?

At least one of the unnamed dragon species from HTTYD2 appears in HTTYD3. I really hope they flesh out the species a little and give it a name, even if it is in the games or something.

Woah Berk, that engineering ...

Toothless doing the Skrill thing ... seems cheesy. That's a Skrill thing! Hope they have an explanation!! I think I remember that the Skrill was one of the original design concepts for Toothless, so maybe that's why Toothless is absorbing and shooting electricity? Its also interesting that we don't see any of Toothless in alpha form (unless the electrical bit was that). Also if Toothless is the alpha of ALL dragons everywhere, doesn't appear he has much influence over Grimmel's dragons ... or Toothless is the alpha just of the dragons in the area around Berk?

Graphics look very detailed, heck of alot better than the poster. Like the dragon noises, especially from Toothless during his little 'dances'.

So, yeah, trailer better than poster, but still feel like most of the plot has been revealed already.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:36, June 8, 2018 (UTC)

re: Hm, I was wondering
It's no big deal ❤️ and completely understandable. 😊 I myself am quite sleep-deprived as of late. All the new activity on this Wiki has been really hard to keep up with. I just wanted to let you know in case other users, especially new users, get confused over this.

By the way, did you see that AJ Kane's mother Alexandra (heh) just replied to some fans who were asking her about AJ's role in the movie? She wrote that they can't say what his role is yet but the movie will be awesome. It seems like they have been sworn to secrecy by Dreamworks and it's fueling my curiosity even more! I really want to know who 'my son' is playing. 😂 --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 19:37, June 8, 2018 (UTC)

Yup, yup! I found it shortly after posting to Thorndrum's wall. Putting foot in mouth right now. I don't have Twitter though, so thanks for the direct link!!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  21:34, June 10, 2018 (UTC)

I'm really sorry. This was the first time I even saw the video. How did you find it? Like, her latest video just appeared on my notifications and then I found that video about. I don't mean to encourage her, but I'm not going to sit by and let this continue, although I suppose there's really nothing I can do to stop her. Do you know if the user is still active?--

Alright. Thank you!--

Thank you!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  03:06, June 14, 2018 (UTC)

About intriguing gloves
I was recently asked about hiccups gloves and if they are removable or if they are attached too the suit I think not but I want a professional opinion on intriguing gloves and seeing you are the master of intriguing gloves I’m asking you. --Dragonnewt (talk) 14:25, June 15, 2018 (UTC)

Possible new Httyd book
Hi Dublin! I happened to find this book on Amazon today. However, I am not sure if this is a 'canon' book (like The Art of books, Guide to the Dragons books etc.) or just a book related to Httyd, like many others on this page. And by that I mean I am not sure if I should create a page for it or just mention it on the page linked above. Could you use your 'detective' skills to find out? ☺

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  05:10, June 17, 2018 (UTC)

Interesting. I think that, for now, I will let it on the Books Related to the HTTYD Franchise and after it will become available and we'll have more information about it, I will consider creating a page for it.

Thank you for your help. I knew I could count on you! 😀

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  06:40, June 17, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. I don't know how could I not realize that. I didn't pay attention to the user himself when I let the welcome message. Also, the welcome message is sent automatically if the user edits his own page. If not, it has to be added manually.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:43, June 18, 2018 (UTC)

Light Fury Classification ...
Hey, I'm going to message the other staff as well, but I think we should make a decision about how to classify the Light Fury, whether it is a species or sub-species. Obviously it is subject to change as more information becomes available. Unfortunately, Dean Deblois - though he wants to be realistic/scientific with the movies - isn't really a biologist and has called the Light Fury a 'species', 'sub-species, 'variation', and probably something else at this point in his various interviews. It does matter to the Wiki, especially since we have separate templates and layouts and such for dragon species and sub-species. It also looks like it may be a source of conflicting edits and such.

My personal opinion is that the Light Fury is a separate species, as that makes the most sense biologically. Sub-species refer to different groups within a species that often are in distinct geographic areas and may have some different morphology, but that morphology is usually 'minor'. Like striping on a tiger being a little different or one sub-species is a little smaller or larger than another. They can also fully interbreed and produce fertile offspring and carry on the line. Species are differentiated by much more obvious morphological differences, geographic differences, and by the fact that two species cannot produce a new, fertile hybrid species. Certainly two species similar enough can breed and produce offspring, but they are usually sterile or sterile enough not to be able to carry on the line. Examples are mules, zorses, and various cat hybrids like ligers. If the Light Fury and the Night Fury are really the same species, then there would be a population of them especially since Dean said the Unnamed Light Fury is not the last of her kind. Also, while they both look similar, there is obvious major differences that speak more to a separate species than just a sub-species. Out of what we currently know, the Light Fury and Night Fury being two different species (but closely related) makes sense.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:57, June 17, 2018 (UTC)

I think I am just being over-worried that this issue might become a source of argument before we get the official word (such as in the Dragonpedia). Anyway, I'm fine just letting it be. As far as where Dean has discussed the Night/Light Fury, I am basing my opinion off of his first Reddit AMA. I know he's mentioned it a few times afterward in other interviews.

As far as the slideshow, IMO its okay. Admittedly I didn't look at all 57 slides after it started going into meiosis and mitosis and so on. There are a few points that aren't quite accurate - the 0.1% difference they mention in the slide with Bush and Osama for example. Pretty sure 0.1% is the difference between a human and a chimpanzee, not between two individuals of the same species. The images they give of variation within species are all from creatures that have been manipulated by humans to intentionally breed in the mutations arising to variations. The image for the horses include a picture of a Zorse (Zebra x horse hybrid) which is wrong - that's not a variation, as it is not a full horse. A zebra's full color pattern is not a trait/mutation/variation found in domestic horses (to be clear, some colors such as 'dun' have a stripe down the back and some faint striping on the legs, but that isn't the same as full on zebra stripes). As you can see from the variations given for humans, they are extremely 'minor' in the scheme of things. The differences between the Night and Light Furies like the back sail and spines, and the ear-like appendages, as well as whatever biological mechanisms and processes needed to produce their difference abilities like the super heating of the scales to a mirror-like quality are huge differences. We don't see humans with extra appendages, multiple ears, back spines, or radical abilities (not counting severe mutations, illness, and so on). If anything like these arose in our species, it has not been selected for and those variations have disappeared.

Aaanyway, just had to expound on that, sorry. As far as classifying HTTYD dragons - yes I have thought of it too! So in biology nowadays, classification has changed alot because it is so much easier to study DNA and the differences and similarities between species and evolution and such. Before, classification was made largely on morphology. This is the best we can do for classifying our lovely fictitious creatures. I'm sure you remember the Kingdom-Phylum-Class-Order-Family-Genus-Species? Still applies but has gotten very complicated with DNA studies. Now there are clades and sub-supra-infra-etc groupings and so on. It gets really confusing once you get around the Class level. Anyway, if we just go by the old complicated classification, dragons would be
 * Kingdom: Animalia
 * Phylum: Chordata (having a backbone)
 * Class: It would be useful to use the HTTYD 'Class' here, but we have to get from Chordata to something more specific. Here would be Reptilia. The HTTYD universe keeps calling dragons Reptiles so we could go with that.
 * Order: Here be Dragons
 * Family: We could call the HTTYD 'Classes' as taxonomic families. I don't feel like Dreamworks meant the dragon classes to be the same necessarily as a taxonomic class.
 * Genus: Have fun with genus and species! In my opinion, Night Fury and Light Furies would be the same Genus but different species.
 * Species: how about Furorforma fulgurmorte and Furorforma luxalba? Or something like that ...

I still have to respond to your trailer analysis! Sorry!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:45, June 18, 2018 (UTC)

Hey Dublyn. Sorry there’s no header. It want working. My computer is acting up. Anyways. There was a user named Jackie.harrypotter who posted a post about Harry Potter that made no sense at all on this fandom. Just thought I’d let ya know. Sorry to bother ya.

Nuttetuff (talk) 06:52, June 19, 2018 (UTC)nuttetuff

Sorry
I’ll try to do better I get distracted easily --Dragonnewt (talk) 14:56, June 19, 2018 (UTC)

I remember him well. And I blocked him. Thank you!--

Question about page

_______________________________________________________________ I see you are the admin so can I ask how did you get those special remarks like "Dublyn trains with hiccup horrendous haddock III" ,"dublyn protects dragons with balls", and "Dublyn geeks out on dragons with fishlegs" I really wanna knowVelocity 9 (talk) 19:00, June 19, 2018 (UTC)

Um I see you are the admin so can I ask how did you get those special remarks like "Dublyn trains with hiccup horrendous haddock III" ,"dublyn protects dragons with balls", and "Dublyn geeks out on dragons with fishlegs" I really wanna knowVelocity 9 (talk) 19:02, June 19, 2018 (UTC)Velocity 9 (talk) 19:09, June 19, 2018 (UTC)