User talk:Ladybrasa



Re:Background image and others
I'll keep an eye on that user. Thanks for giving them a warning. In terms of the background image that was Woolly Howl who did it. She has not been very active lately, so she probably didn't think about the background image. I'll look into the background, and maybe you can message Woolly Howl, and ask her to change the background as soon as she can. Do you have any suggestions of what to change it to, or should be changed back to the previous background? I do agree that the background needs to be changed, precisely because it is well past the time frame this background was meant for. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 13:45, April 6, 2018 (UTC)

Possible New Characters
I took these screenshots of characters mentioned in text boxes in SOD that I was wondering if we should give pages to. If you say we shouldn't we can delete these images, but they will be helpful if we do decide to create a page for them.

Lo g o   Dra go n Cre ator      21:34, April 8, 2018 (UTC)

Underwater section in SoD
I don't know if you remember, but in "Secret of the Leviathan", there was a part where you go underwater at Ship Graveyard to find a set of keys. Down there are a few interesting things: a giant turtle, an octopus, some schools of fish, seaweed and barnacles. I tried to tae screenshots of them, but they end up being too small due to the oxygen bar, which I cut off the picture. Would you be able to get some images of them? Oh, and if you don't know, you can go underwater even after finishing the expansion.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  14:17, April 9, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!

P.S. When you have time, could you archive your talk page? It has reached 100 Terror Mails again.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  14:34, April 9, 2018 (UTC)

It looks very similar to the real Royal Anglerfish, with a few exceptions in color. However, it might be just an error made by SoD. Yet the closest thing I could find to that fish is the Royal Anglerfish, so I guess it's okay to leave it as it is.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:11, April 10, 2018 (UTC)

can I help with something?

Youngtrainer (talk) 16:54, April 10, 2018 (UTC)

Uh, unfortunately I already did the quest and I didn't take screenshots of the Rumblehorns because the lighting was really bad. But, I will log on my other account and see if the quest is available (I did just the first few quests on that one).

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  17:39, April 10, 2018 (UTC)

Aaaand the quest is not yet available for my other account. I don't have enough time (and patience) to play until it is available, so I won't be able to get screenshots. Sorry!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  18:29, April 10, 2018 (UTC)

Theres already a page for the Sundial if you didn't know. And "Three baby Rumblehorns" sounds a bit too generic. I was thinking more about "Rumblehorn Hatchlings", following the model of Scuttleclaw Hatchlings. And I don't think I will have much time for them either, as I am a bit busy too (plus, I didn't finish with "Secret of the Leviathan" yet).

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  03:23, April 14, 2018 (UTC)

Guide to the Dragons Books
Hi Ladybrasa! Do you happen to have any of the "A Guide to Dragons" books?

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  03:52, April 14, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! And it's not a problem that you interfered in my conversations. Frankly, I didn't noticed you answered to Dublin until after I posted my answer.

P.S. I suppose you didn't notice the message I sent yesterday, so I'll ask you again: do you happen to have any of the "A Guide to the Dragons" books?

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  14:30, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I was referring to the franchise ones. I added a new feature to the Dragon Fight Club which includes stats of the dragons that are in that specific fight. Besides the normal stats (armor, shot limit, venom etc), I also added the size, wingspan, weight and fire type. However, I can't seem to find the Snaptrapper's wingspan and weight anywhere, and I knew that these things are mentioned in the guides. Since you have most of the Httyd books, I thought you would have them. But it's not a problem that you don't. I also thought about buying them as they give information about dragons that don't appear much in the franchise, like the Hobblegrunt and the Scuttleclaw.

Also, I did those things you asked me about your archive page.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  14:53, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

How can I delete the unnamed images?
Hi Ladybrasa, I've accidentally uploaded more unnamed images of Royal Fireworm and Icebreaker. I've tried to delete them from recent images added, but can't find a way to do so. Can anyone delete the images or does it have to be an admin. The Icebreaker gallery has now been filled in by named and cropped images. How To Train Your Deathsong (talk) 15:40, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

The new day starts at Midnight (UTC) on Fandom. Figuring out the exact time it happens where you live is by figuring out how many hours you are ahead or behind UTC. For me my time zone is currently -4 UTC, which means the new day starts 8 pm my time. For you, you should figure out how far ahead or behind your timezone is ahead of UTC and go back or forward that many hours to figure out what time the new day on Fandom starts. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 17:02, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

Species/Character confusion, and Discussion Rules
Good afternoon Lady,

I don't mind at all that you're eavesdropping. Dare I say, I think most of us who monitor the Recent Activity page on a regular basis do the same. With that said, hello to each of you who are NOT Ladybrasa! Yes, I'm talking to you! 😉

And I agree with everything you said concerning the species/character confusion. You may have even managed to put my own thoughts into words better than I did! I remember pushing back against the creation of Wild Sandbuster because I saw it as unnecessary. But I was shut down over it, so I didn't push the matter further. It would be beyond ridiculous to create a separate page for each dragon if only one of its species is ever seen (one for 'species', a second for 'character'). It does bring me some consolation in hearing that the matter is confusing and at times open for debate. Maybe it would be different if I actually played the games so I could see for myself how they're introduced, but from my current prospective, I think it would make sense if dragons like the Snogglesong could belong to both character and species/subspecies categories. No matter, though. I highly respect you and Httyd big fan on the matter so I'll let it rest.

As for consistency, yeah, it's never going to be perfect. Just frustrating when rules change on a whim, or are broken and ignored, causing all sorts of new problems and even when I try to draw attention to the issue they're allowed to continue. But I know I don't need to tell you that.

On another note, the Discussion Rules. At just now checking, the discussion guidelines page looks and reads normally for me. I also use mobile web primarily, so don't know how it looks on desktop. Or in the app. In fact, while I've got your attention, are the Discussion Rules easily accessible though the app? The app is not compatible with either of my devices so I've never used it. And on mobile web I swear I've looked everywhere for the Discussion Rules and can't find a link to them anywhere as part of the site. I had to resort to asking Annabeth for the link so I could bookmark it. I keep meaning to ask one of the admins or Httyd big fan if it's possible the Discussion Rules be added to the main drop down menu as part of the Policies tab.

And no, there's no rule about talking about hacking the games so one doesn't have to pay. I expect sharing details on how to do so would be forbidden, same as sharing links to where one could watch RttE for free. I saw the comment in question, and was also put off by it, especially after the user laughed as if mocking those who are playing legally. We might have to double check with an admin on that one.

Thanks for reaching out to me! Sorry for the wall of text. Hope you got some sleep last night!

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 17:22, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

Since you busted out through my conversations, I think it's okay for me to bust through yours too, right? (I don't mean that as a bad thing!)

About the time reset, from my experience in the past, it goes back to 0 if you don't edit a full day, from midnight to midnight, not 24 hours. Or at least in my case, I remember that one I edited a bit in a morning and then the next day in the evening and the timer didn't reset. Also, you can make the time on the wiki show as your time zone if you set this on your preferences page.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  15:40, April 16, 2018 (UTC)

I think the timer updated to a longer period when there was that big change on FANDOM last year. I don't know if you remember, but there were changed a few things on the wiki's appearance, like putting that "Create a page button" near the "Recent Wiki activity" button at the top right.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  03:34, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

Re: HTTYD tidbit
Haha, "sleuthing", I love it! 😁 And I saw that, it's exciting! A bunch of news articles popped up in my search results this morning. And new ones are still appearing every hour! Most are saying the exact same thing now though. This is probably the best one I've come across so far. It may also interest you that the first speculation of Tuff having a new voice actor for the movie also appeared this morning. Don't know if you've heard what's been going on with T.J. since January.

Hope work isn't being too torturous today.

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 20:31, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Crop an image?
Oops! It sometimes happens to forgot to crop an image or name it before I upload it. However, usually I notice immediately afterwards. I don't know how that slipped away!

Anyway, I replaced it with yours since it was a bigger resolution. I also cropped a few other images that I found on Gallery: Dragon Root which I uploaded from a past Gauntlet event. Thanks for noticing!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  12:55, April 18, 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry to hear that! 😟 If you want, I can tell you the site where I watch Rtte (only season 3, 4, 5 and 6), but I think the man who uploaded the episodes did it illegally.

Also, I deleted the images.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  12:52, April 19, 2018 (UTC)

Well, that's good news. And I have Android, not iOS.

On a completely different hand, although I did not upload pictures from them yet, I finished both Rise and Wrath of Stormheart on SoD, so I will get the next expansion as soon as it arrives (most likely in August like last year).

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  03:14, April 20, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I do think so. I believe that if they sort of united the two expansion into a single one (of course, with minor changes), it would have been better. Especially since (I suppose) most players thought that Stormheart will be defeated in "Wrath of Stormheart" since it was a little cliffhanger between the two. But I suppose we just have to deal with it.

As for those machines, they're simply called noisemakers. I guess we'll have to stick to that name.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:48, April 22, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Valka's Ball-Like Shield ...
Done! Also, at first I thought it was a leather ball too, but then I saw Valka's Shield which looked almost identically and I thought it would make more sense if it was the shield, since that was a Bewilderbeast item.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:29, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Your fault!
I had to reward myself for surviving tax season. So, I blame you for this! 😉 (The dolls are old) I look forward to reading them both. Thank you for inspiring me! 💗

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 01:45, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Pepe or Peppy?
Hi! In a RoB quest, Gobber, after the death of Stoick, begins talking to himself, but he insists he is talking to Peppy, his pet yak. In the episode "Crushing It", Gobber, while again being delusional, believes he talk to Pepe, his pet yak, while he was actually talking to Skullcrusher. Do you think it's the same yak? They are both Gobber's pets that he mentions while he was not himself and they have similar names. Here's the mention in RoB, if you think you need it.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  19:53, April 26, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Please Delete ...
Done!

P.S. I don't know how that happened my time badge reseted. 😟 Now I will have to wait another year until I will do it. Good thing it didn't happened while I was closing the 200 days badge because that was actually my goal a few months ago.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  03:44, April 27, 2018 (UTC)

I am a bit busy with school right now, preparing for an upcoming exam, so I don't have much time for the wiki. It's not that I don't have what to do on the wiki, it's just that sometimes I don't find the time.

As for the RoB quests, I wanted to check something about the Legendary collections, so I created a new account and played a few quests. The only things that I didn't uploaded on the wiki are that mention of "Peppy", some information about the Tide Glider and something about Windstriker scales. On my original account, I finished all the quests a while ago.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  03:55, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Rollin' on back
Hello Lady, Forgive me for snooping but then again we all know we do it. 😏 I just double checked and it looks like all of the troll's edits have already been undone. At first glance it appeared Tauriel undid his edits on the Flax page, but at closer inspection she only undid his latest one. You may have noticed by now that I went ahead and undid the others a few moments ago. That appears to have been the only one we missed last night. When a roll back is done, it doesn't appear in the main "Wiki Activity" page so I know it looks like few had been fixed. But if you check the pages' histories, the latest edits are all by either me or HiccstridFan.

As for what a normal user can do, ask Annabeth for Rollback rights! 😀 It's such a plus and a help in keeping on top of trolls like this. If i could nominate anyone for Rollback rights, I nominate you and Logo because you both deserve that extra tool to help keep the wiki in tip-top shape. Aside from that, still 'AJAX Undo' works one by one until all the trollish edits are dealt with. What's tricky is when someone else makes a good edit amidst the trollish ones, and you might be forced to undo that one too in order to get to the trollish edits that took place before it did. I had to do that on Gustav's page last night. I simply edited the good edits back in once I was done.

Should I leave Annabeth a note nominating you and Logo as Rollbacks? 😊

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 16:08, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

That would be wonderful!! You're much deserved of it, and have been long before I was granted my rights. In fact, if you ask me, we could use HiccstridFan to be promoted to Bureaucrat, Tauriel and/or Alexa promoted to Admin, and you promoted to Content Mod. Especially with the issues we've had the last few weeks. We could use more trustworthy users with more power. Go for it! Best of luck! 💗

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 22:58, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your appreciation! And what a coincidence! I also wanted to suggest you to become something that is part of the staff, as you are a very experienced user on this wiki. Plus, you deserve it after all your work, from fixing the categories to revising the book series, something that most fans don't know it exists.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  03:43, April 30, 2018 (UTC)

I've given you rights as you've requested. Thanks!--

Congratulations!
Congrats for becoming a Content Moderator and a Rollback!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:44, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the team! It's great to have a Viking Biologist on board. 😊 --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 11:09, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

Yeeaaahhh!! Congrats on the promotion, Lady! Now you get to add this and this to your page! And also this if you like. 😀 You're going to make a great mod!

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 15:14, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

I just deleted the page. It was an unnecessary page. We never ever heard anything about his character, so any information on that page was an assumption. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 01:02, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

I just blocked that user. I contacted Fandom Staff about that person, and all previous accounts have been globally blocked, along with the IP addresses associated with them. That person is going to multiple computers to do this, because this is a different IP address from the other ones this person used to create account. At this point, I will have to send a message to Fandom Staff, and get this IP address globally blocked. Of course it hasn't stopped this user from doing this, again and again, repeatedly going to a different computer with a different IP address, and create an account. This is frustrating, and Fandom Staff can only block an IP address associated with the user that has been reported for trouble to them. I don't know what to do beyond contacting Fandom Staff, and I don't know how much longer this might last. All I can do is to keep dealing with this person the same way each time. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 02:34, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Well then, that was quite the christening, wasn't it? You ok? It can start to get overwhelming when the troll just... won't... stop! Thank Odin HiccstridFan was online at the time or soon after each of the times the troll had been causing havoc.

As for the image in the Content Mod user box, I agree it's kind of a weird picture with Fishlegs' head half chopped off. It was probably chosen because that's the scene in "Heather Report, Part 1" where he says he's the "log master". Though I personally think this picture would look better, though perhaps cropped slightly. It's from the same scene. I imagine the three of you can discuss the change of the image with no problem. 😊

Again, welcome aboard! And stay strong until we get this troll taken care of for good. We can do this!

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 03:25, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

I don't believe so. :) The only thing I could find was this. --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 20:46, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

An IP address is connected to a computer. The definition of the IP address it this: a unique string of numbers separated by periods that identifies each computer using the Internet Protocol to communicate over a network. So that troll must have access to multiple computers. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 01:35, May 3, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Content Mod Box ...
I think the last one, with Fishlegs writing in the Book of Dragons, is the best between the ones you sent me.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  03:27, May 3, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, sure! I also vote for the last one. --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 10:12, May 3, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Name that Collection Item ...
I always thought the first one was a telescope, but now that I look at it closely, it does look like a torch. As for the second one, it's just the body shape of a woman, without head and hands, made out of some rock material. I don't think it has a name.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  03:26, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

HOW TO HANDLE A VANDAL
Annabeth blocked the user. I just saw the message, and saw what the user did. I have no doubt that it is that same person again. I never did send a message to the Fandom Staff. the previous time that person created an account with a bad username and vandalized pages. I don't have time now as it is late here and am headed to bed soon. Maybe you can send a message to Fandom Staff so as to get that IP address globally blocked by them. A link to where to do it is here. On that page you want to click on the contact us message that will take you to a page to write a message to the Fandom Staff. As a heads up, you should give links to the pages that the user caused trouble, plus a link to the name of the user to make it easier for the Famdom Staff to deal with it. For the links, you need to copy the hyperlink, as of course whoever gets it will be seeing it in a e-mail or whatever in a place that is not this wiki. Of course, just the link and no extra word that makes the link appear shorter as all that does is add that extra word to the link and make it link to non-existent page. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 03:31, May 10, 2018 (UTC)

Defender of the Wing Weapons
Hi! I noticed that you are plannig someday to create a page for Defender of the Wing weapons. While I was taking a few pictures from "Chain of Command", I came across a Defender of the Wing spear, so I thought I should leave it to you, since you are going to make a page for the weapons.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  12:52, May 15, 2018 (UTC)

Glad to hear that! I sent an email to Ludia about thus problem a few days ago and they said that they will look into the problem. However, I didn't expect it to be corrected so soon.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  03:12, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

Re: More about Auction Island
Can you tell me exactly what you asked? Maybe if I put both question and answer together I can figure it out.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  15:33, May 21, 2018 (UTC)

Well, then I think it means "yes". It also seems that the part in the "Return to Dragon Island" where you go to Auction Island with Eret is inspired from "Last Auction Heroes", which I think it is worth mentioning in the Trivia section.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  17:00, May 21, 2018 (UTC)

Given that Hiccup definitely says that he was on Auction Island before, I believe the two islands are one and the same.

"I don't know where Auction Island is, even though I was there a few years ago. I was quite busy the last time we were there."

- Hiccup in School of Dragons

Lo g o   Dra go n Cre ator      20:10, May 21, 2018 (UTC)

Bargemine
Hi! Just wondering, how did you get Bargemine in RoB? I can't seem to find her anywhere.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  19:00, May 22, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, well, it didn't appear for me. In the last 3 days, there were package deals for Book Wyrm, Valka's Mercy and some Card Packs. I gues they differ from player to player.

As for the SoD quest, I already played it. Yes, it is about about mushrooms, but also about some flowers that are in the antidote.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  03:38, May 23, 2018 (UTC)

In terms of keeping new users from editing pages, that is where protecting a page comes in. To prevent new users or unregistered edits from editing a page, that page needs to be semi-protected by an Admin or content moderator. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 01:58, May 25, 2018 (UTC)

I think that they were just talking about something. And, yes, I think you could add it to their relationship page.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  16:50, May 25, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Green Thunder
It is interesting that Spark Guard is a green Skrill. Technically my Green Thunder is supposed to be a subspecies of the Skrill based on the dragon of the same name on Hiccup's map in HTTYD 2, but there's little I could do to make it besides photo editing a picture of a regular Skrill. Even so, thanks for your interest in my fan-made dragons. I spend a lot of time and effort coming up with designs and abilities for them, so it's nice to see them get appreciated. If you want to know more about them, please check out their pages on the fanon wikia. Lo g o   Dra go n Cre ator      03:01, May 26, 2018 (UTC)

Featured Articles - Summer 2018
Hi! I don't knew if you knew, but a while ago, Woolly and I decided to change featured articles on the first day of the year seasons (winter, spring, summer, autumn) and the Staff should decide the articles featured since we know them the best. Since you are now a Conted Mod, I think that you should give your vote too.

As you know, we are only a few days away from the beginning of summer, meaning that a new set of Featured Articles needs to be discussed. As you may have noticed, last week I was cleaning up Heather's page, so, if I may, I suggest her as the Featured Character, considering that she is a very popular character in the Httyd Fandom. However, I have been a little more busy than usual and I haven't thiught about the Featured Dragon and Featured Other. Do you have any ideas?

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  10:05, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure. From what I've so far in the past years, the Featured Articles seem to be franchise only. I know you are a big fan of the books too, but I think more people know about the franchise so I think it would be better kept that way. As for Featured Other, until now I've only seen Httyd 3, The Serpent's Heir and Rtte 6, but I think it refers to anything, from an object to an island or a media.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  14:11, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

P.S. It's nice that you noticed my recent work on Chicken's page, but it's still not completed. Heather's page was easier to clean up due to the biography being separate. Maybe I'll finish with Chicken until the next tim.

Uh, nevermind the message above... Woolly just answered and saw your message on my talk page. She said that it's okay to have books included too and she suggested the Seadragonus Giganticus Maximus and Common or Garden Dragon (Books). Since I'm not an expert of the books, I will let you decide. However, please make sure it follows newer rules of the Manual of Style like having a quote at the top of the page and such. As for the Featured Other, she said it can be anything else except a character or a dragon.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  14:40, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

The Doomfang's page has a bit too little information to be featured. I have to agree here with Woolly that the Seadragonus Giganticus Maximus and the Common or Garden Dragon (Books) are better candidates for Featured Articles. While the SGM might have been featured before, I think that the Garden Dragon hasn't, or at least not since I joined the Fandom, almost three years ago. The only thing that page lacks is a "Behaviour" section. So I think that if you would be able to add this, it would be the perfect page.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  15:22, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

If you manage to add more to the Doomfang page until June 1st, it might end up being featured. However, I still (personally) think that Common or Garden Dragon would be a better choice since it is more common (the irony!) between fans that the Doomfang. Also, yes, I remember the book version of Toothless being featured a while ago, so I think that was the case. Also, great job on the "Behavior" section!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  15:44, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

Patoadam (talk) 17:44, May 30, 2018 (UTC)

Hi! There is a petition going on about new season of Dragons race to the Edge. If you haven't signed it yet please do so in the following link:

https://www.change.org/p/dreamworks-tv-show-after-how-to-train-your-dragon-2-and-before-how-to-train-your-dragon-3

Re: Tiny crumb from HTTYD3
Oooh, intriguing! Thank you, Lady! The emotions are running high in the fandom right now. I can feel it and it's making me anxious. 😂

I think I just stumbled upon a new image for HTTYD3. Trying to verify right now...

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 02:54, May 31, 2018 (UTC)

God morning,

No, unfortunately, the image I was researching turned out to be fan made. 😞 The quality wasn't the best but I was hoping if an original source was found, a higher quality image would be available. I had seen it pop up a few times both on FB and Twitter, but no one knew where it came from. The closest I came was a screen shot of what appeared to be an Italian blog, but the URL wasn't included in the shot. But everyone who saw my inquiry about it insisted it was fan made.

As for the new poster, I'm still processing it. I think it looks like unoriginal children's fan service. I mean, I get that HTTYD has been aimed at children from the beginning, but when the riders were actually kids back in the first movie, those posters didn't look so "magical". Or sparkly. It's just... weird. And I'm disappointed that the Light Fury is indeed white in color. Sounded like the footage shown at CinemaCon had no color, so she could have simply been a lighter color than Toothless, but not necessarily "white". There have been fan fics and fan art of white Night Furies since the first movie came out, and they all had a very "Mary Sue-ish" feel to them. I'm confused because I know the upper level crew of movies are forbidden to look at fan art or read fan fics to prevent plagiarizing allegations and copyright infringement. So... did they seriously think up this white Night Fury themselves? Did they seriously think it was an original idea? Fans who drew white fury fan art and/or wrote white fury fan fics are feeling violated. And fans who hated the whole white fury idea from the start are enraged that it's now canon. I'm seeing all sorts of back lash over it. Personally, I don't mind the idea, I just wish she wasn't actually white in color. A grey or light brown would have been more realistic and less cliche. 😝

And if you'll remember, yes, "Light Fury" was mentioned within the footage at CinemaCon, so the term is canon. That doesn't mean that'll be her name though, or even a sub-species name. We had a page that was set up fairly well but was deleted because we just didn't have enough info yet. I'm surprised someone managed to create a whole new page rather than the old one being un-deleted. At least we have an image for her now so I think the page can be brought back into existence. I suggest protecting the page though to prevent fan fic and fan art to be edited into it, since fan created info has existed for years and I know many kids have a hard time differentiating canon from fan made info.

And the Light Fury is said in the official synopsis that she will be Toothless' "mate", so I'd say that's a love interest. Though I suppose we don't actually have confirmation that the white dragon and the "untamed, elusive mate" are the same dragon. But why would they include that in the synopsis and reveal the Light Fury only for Toothless to pursue an entirely different, and yet to be even hinted at, female? Yeah... I'm fairly certain it's the same dragon.

Do you have access to the categories in Discussions by chance? We have some users starting to complain about spoilers and I think it'd be a good idea to create a "Spoiler" category again. I understand that only so many categories are available, but maybe we can combine "Riders/Defenders" into one category in order to free up one for "Spoilers".

Thanks Lady! 💗

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 08:41, June 1, 2018 (UTC)

Good evening, Lady!

Stop apologising. You are not bothering me. Especially on the weekend when I'm off and have plenty of time. So shhhhhhhhhhh.... 😊

Regarding Toothless' facial nubs and how one can tell his age by them, I've seen others discussing this before, and have even seen some discussion about the Light Fury and her lack of facial nubs already, and how it might indicate she's still a juvenile. Toothless didn't have them in GotNF either, so they must have started appearing over the next 5 years. Given how we know the animation is expected to blow HTTYD2's animation out of the water, I expect all these little details have been thought out by Dean and Co. and will continue to be included in the third film.

As much of a disappointment the first poster is, and even the Light Fury, I still have confidence in Dean and Co. Considering Dean rewrote the entire script hints that he improved everything he could on his original ideas, which I'm sure were amazing to begin with. They made Stephen Spielberg cry. Dean has said it'll be deeper and darker than the previous two, so it won't be mindless pre-school entertainment like I'm seeing many fearing after the poster dropped. Both Jay and Gerard gushed at how amazing this film is going to be, how it's stronger than the previous two, and promised us we'll be happy. America hinted that there'll be another short accompanying it and promised we'll be very happy. I trust them. And they all love their fans and want nothing but our happiness. This poster, this first look at the Light Fury, and even the trailer coming this next week are just our first glimpses. I trust there'll be adequate back story to fit everything together, and it may not be as cheesy as it all appears now. 😉

As for anything new I found during my sleuthing, unfortunately I don't have a solid source, but Jonah said somewhere that his character will have a lady friend in this film. 😍 So there's something new and exciting. I pray to Odin that it's Ruff. Rufflout for the win! 🙌

Thanks for checking on the Discussions categories. I was hoping Content Mods had access to that. It appears that's the only thing in Discussions that I don't have access to. I'll ask HiccstridFan or Woolly sometime in the coming days.

I hope you have a lovely night, Lady. Happy June! 💕

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 01:09, June 3, 2018 (UTC)

If I recall, Dean rewrote the script around the same time NBCUniversal bought DreamWorks so that would make sense. Though I also wonder if he was also given the gift of time when it was pushed back another year. I think most of us can relate with feeling rushed when facing a deadline. And had critiqued our work to death by the time we had to turn it in, but may not have had time to improve on it. Dean may have suddenly found himself with time to improve the critiques he had.

Oh, and some other tidbits from sleuthing, someone actually downloaded the entire code for the official website (this fandom is crazy, lol!) and they found images and an MP3 file wrapped in cloaking codes so they don't show up. It's speculated that the official HTTYD3 website will look (and sound!) very different soon; perhaps the day the trailer drops!

And just a few moments ago I saw someone claim that TJ is no longer on the cast list, however at just now checking IMDb he's still listed. So there's no source yet, but I'm keeping an eye on it.

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 02:43, June 3, 2018 (UTC)

Yup, saw that last night. 😊 But please don't hesitate to pass any thing else on if you stumble upon it! I'm rarely the first to discover something. I usually depend on others to put the info in my line of vision. I just happen to be maintaining a broad line of vision at the moment. 😀

There's five books listed right now- one that appears to be the movie in story book form. One titled "World of Dragons". One titled "Journey to New Berk" (I, too, am curious what this "New Berk" location actually is!). One titled "The Night Fury and the Light Fury". And one titled "Meet the New Dragons" (which appears to confirm there will be a number of new dragons besides the Light Fury). It appears most will be available in both hardcover and paperback. Another small bit is the new poster is now available for sale.

Oh, I never commented on who Snotlout could end up being with last time. I agree Rufflegs was cute in "Snotlout Gets the Axe", but with Ruff's and Fishlegs' personalities, I just don't think they fit very well. He's too book-smart and she's too impulsive. I really like Rufflout because Ruff and Snotlout are similar and yet different in all the right ways. I sense some romantic tension when they argue, and even when they're not fighting (or flirting), they seem to just click. That's just my opinion of course, and it's hard to think too deeply on it since nothing of the TV series will be touched upon in the movie. The movie staff probably have no idea how the TV series set up both Rufflegs and Rufflout histories. We may all still be surprised who Snotlout will actually end up with. Or Fishlegs, or even Ruff for that matter, if they end up paired up with anyone.

No real HTTYD3 news yet today. But I'll announce anything big in Discussions and update articles as necessary when I come upon any. I'll gladly pass on any more rumors I hear via talk pages too if you want. 😉

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 20:37, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

Re: HTTYD3 again ...
Yes! That was good to hear for me, too. I haven't gotten around to reading Dean's entire Reddit Q&A session, I must do that this weekend since I'm off work. But the few tidbits of it I've seen floating around are very encouraging. I'm especially happy about the confirmation that there will not be anything "magical" about the Light Fury or the "hidden world" despite what it looked like. There will be logical scientific explanations for everything that looks... paranormal. I'll admit I was really nervous that HTTYD would finally jump onto the crowded magic band wagon. All of Deans answers are outlined on Berk's Grapeevine.

Oooh the trailer........ I'm still processing it. I was so overwhelmed yesterday morning trying to monitor Twitter, FB, and the wiki both for the trailer itself and then all the conversations it sparked. That's another thing I'll have to catch up in this weekend when I'm off. Why has all the big news broken on work days?? 😝 I wasn't traumatized by Hiccup in a beard, which seems to be a popular topic since it dropped. I find some of the scenes in the trailer don't look quite finished. Like there could be more rendering and details added, and some of the movements were a bit unnatural. I'm really hoping that's the case, and the finished product will look better. I need to take a closer look (again, sooo much to catch up on this weekend!) but I didn't even notice any freckles on Hiccup's face. I know that was actually an issue in the second film, and they added them back in. So I hope it's the same this time around, too. I admired the imperfections and dirt the previous films had. I didn't notice any of that in this trailer which concerns me. But again, it really did look like some of the scenes weren't actually finished yet. So they might still have a lot of touching up to do.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on the trailer too, once you're back on a regular keyboard. 😊

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 08:06, June 8, 2018 (UTC)

Re:suggestion for 'active' pages
I ghave seen the increased activity. I like your suggestions. On the topic of images I hate how none of the users uploading images properly names them, and how they are uploading duplicates of pictures already uploaded. I don't understand that they need to make sure they are not uploading duplicate images. Also, some users are not getting the welcome message bevause they haven't edited their profile. I will have to put the message on their talk page myself. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 23:46, June 9, 2018 (UTC)

To add categories to images very quickly it is done the same way you add categories to a lot of pages, except each image needs file: in front of it to work. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 23:53, June 9, 2018 (UTC)

When I have a lot of files that I want to add a specific category to, I copy the file names, paste them into the Notebook application on my laptop, and then use the find and replace to add file: in front of each file name, putting the word from the beginning of the file name in the find box, and put file: in front of the word from the beginning of a file name in the replace box, and then most times I hit the replace all button, and in the cases where I know the word I put in the find box appears in some file names not at the beginning of the word, I don't I hit find next so I can avoid putting, "file:" where it does not belong, and only have it put it at the front of file names. When there are file names that are unique I copy the text "file:" and paste it front of a file manually. It has made it much easier for me to get files ready to replace them, since I can get file: at the bunch of image names much quicker than I can manually. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 02:00, June 10, 2018 (UTC)

the image I pu remains the same so i could.nt do anything but toothless is in others chrarge already

The job is finished so I am not doing anything to imaged but thx to put in a category! By the forget my giberyshYoungtrainer (talk) 12:23, June 10, 2018 (UTC)

Dragon Stages Images + Links
Hello! Just a quick message. I've been cleaning up a few of the Dragon Species pages and if you probably know, there is a slideshow under the Physical Appearance section. Do you think this slideshow is necessary? I personally find that it sticks out a lot. I feel that it should be changed to individual photos of the egg and Titan Wing form only. DO let me know what you think about it.

Also, as most of these pages are incredibly lengthy, I have noted a major inconsistency with linking. A recap: the current policy in the Manual of Style is to link only the first mention of article name, unless the page is really long, then links should appear once more around the 3/4 mark of the page. However, I have noticed a few problems. Also, it might be tedious for users who want to add new information to check through the entire page, which explains why there is so much inconsistency.
 * 1) Some captions have links, others do not. Are image captions considered 'part of the article'?
 * 2) Templates like Quotes and ROB/SOD templates are a confusing bit. Should links appear here too?
 * 3) Lengthy pages are quite subjective, exactly how long must the article be to have reminder links?

Hence, I would like to propose this: Do let me know what you think about this. --https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  14:26, June 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) First mentions of an article under every main section, those denoted by == should be linked. This does not include sub-sections.
 * 2) Quotes and captions should never be linked, regardless of whether links have appeared in the article body.
 * 3) First mentions in data templates, so things like the ROB/SOD templates, should always be linked, regardless of whether links have appeared previously in the section or article.

Deathgripper
Dean tweeted about it. 😉

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 21:28, June 10, 2018 (UTC)

On hindsight, the quote thing should be linked. Thanks for bringing it up! So perhaps we could consider the quotes as part of the main article body? So it’ll obey the first rule? What do you think about that? Also, the Rumblehorn page looks good, I definitely do not mind those stats. https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  00:13, June 11, 2018 (UTC)

Images should NOT have watermarks, especially watermarks that aren't ones associated with DreamWorks. Also, that template for hot spots looks good. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 01:07, June 11, 2018 (UTC)

Hello. Sorry to bother you but I just want to ask why the “Last appearances” of confirmed characters who are to be in THW keep being reverted to “King of Dragons, Part 2”?

Vinelfalna (talk) 02:10, June 12, 2018 (UTC)

Regarding the trailer screenshots of The Hidden World
Hi Ladybrasa,

I just want to ask you regarding the trailer screenshots. See, I found some HQ images from the trailer and would like to upload them to the appropriate galleries. Also, I noticed that most of the Berksgrapevine watermarked images have been removed. However, there are still some left and I was wondering if I should just replace them with the HQ ones that I've found, or leave it to you (or other the admins) to delete them first and postpone uploading them until the watermarked images are removed? Fangalpr (talk) 00:08, June 13, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Regarding the trailer screenshots of The Hidden World
Hi Ladybrasa,

Here's the ones that you've missed to remove. I can replace those for you with HQ ones if you'd like, though! Fangalpr (talk) 01:26, June 13, 2018 (UTC)

In terms of whether or not pictures with the Cartoon Network logo are allowed, I will say this. I don't prefer pictures with logos in them, and pictures from an episode, or the actual film, should NEVER have logos on them. Only if you are taking the pictures from a trailer, or a clip, that is posted on Youtube by DreamWorks TV, or a channel that is legally posting it, can you have a logo in the corner. Even for the clips, pictures should NOT be taken from them, and pictures should be taken from the film or episode itself. By the way I do have access to Defenders of Berk, and Riders of Berk episodes without the Cartoon Network logo on them, having bought the episodes on iTunes, so I could legally watch the episodes. Of course, the videos for the episodes from the Defenders and Riders of Berk that one can find online and watch, which are posted illegally, have the logo. I know there are quite a few pictures with the Cartoon Network logo, and I might go and replace them if I feel like it. Further problems come for users watching the episodes on Kim Cartoon, and taking screenshots from those videos, as the logo for the site is in the upper left corner, which is also unacceptable for obvious reasons, and there are pictures on this wiki that have the words kiss cartoon in the corner. So in short, it is best to have pictures with NO logos, and the only time that having logos in the pictures is when one gets pictures from trailers. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 14:45, June 13, 2018 (UTC)

Light Fury Gallery
Hello and sorry to bother you. I'm not sure who to contact about this. I'd just like to ask what happened to the Light Fury Gallery. As of right now, I've noticed that most of the screenshots have been replaced into LQ ones again, when, yesterday, I re-uploaded most of the blurry images to HQ ones. I'm still new to the wikia and I'd like to know if the ones that I've uploaded were not appropriate, hence why they've been replaced. Fangalpr (talk) 02:10, June 14, 2018 (UTC)

Second batch of RoB dragons
Yes, I will get to them now that I'm back.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  02:51, June 14, 2018 (UTC)

Um, well, today I want to experiment a bit with my new 'abilities' as an admin. But I promise that tomorrow I will take care of the dragons.

By the way, I have made some changes for the badges, such as putting images in the Plant Track badges and changing the names of the Biography Track as they were identical to another one. I'm not sure if you can see it but if you can, what do you think?

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  14:34, June 14, 2018 (UTC)

More HTTYD3 stuff
Hello Lady,

It's late coming but I didn't want to leave your last message ignored. Apologies for such a late reply. But I enjoyed reading it immensely, and re-read it multiple times. I'm just so bad at planning what to say in response that time escapes me and suddenly the moment has passed and a response would no longer be worth it. But in this case I think it might still be worth it. ...I hope, anyway.

One, you must not have read through my profile because I am insulted that you'd ask if I'm familiar with cats. 😂 Ok.. I'm not. But yes, I'm very familiar with cats; have had them since I was 5 years old. My current feline daughter Melody is currently curled up in one of her beds with her dolly (a Hello Kitty doll), while her departed feline brother Joey is currently residing in a cherry box on my mantle. That and I've worked in the pet care industry for.. (don't want to date myself too badly here) a very long time.

It's been over a week since the trailer dropped, and Annecy has now come and gone, giving us a LOT more to digest! I trust you've seen the spoiler thread in Discussions about it? 😉 If not, there's some juicy spoilers from the scenes shown, but none so big that they could ruin the movie for those of us who enjoy minor to moderate spoilers.

💥💥SPOILERS💥💥

Among them is confirmation that Hiccup makes a self-controlled tail fin and the events of GotNF are even verbally referenced. He coats the self-controlled fin with a paste made from Toothless' saliva and ground shed Night Fury scales so it doesn't smell too "human" for the Light Fury. Hiccstrid is not married yet during the primary portion of the film. In fact, sounds like the events of RttE episode "Sandbusted" might now be non-canon because Astrid says marriage isn't her "thing", and she gets irritated with Gobber when he brings it up, clearly indicating she's avoiding the subject. There are more hints that there'll be a wedding short though, too! We already knew that Toothless and the Light Fury reenact the "Forbidden Friendship" scene, but now we know it'll be complete with Toothless drawing a picture of her in the sand. Meatlug has another brood of babies. All the riders, including Eret, have flight suits of their own. Valka and Spitelout are friends (there's only one quick scene with them and it didn't suggest anything other than friendship, but I can't help but wonder if [franchise] Hiccup and Snotlout will finally be officially related by the end). Grimmel knew Stoick and has a conversation with Hiccup about him (in fact, I'm picking up some hints that Grimmel and Stoick might be family, cue Grimbeard the Ghastly). Berk is way overpopulated, and as chief, Hiccup is moving the entire village to a new, bigger island; "New Berk" (which I don't quite get since in real world situations, they would simply expand to nearby islands rather than move the ENTIRE village, so I hope we get an explanation to that). Valka gives Hiccup a fur cape and calls him "handsome" though I've gotten mixed reports between her having made it for him herself or that it was Stoick's chief's cape (though I suppose she could have made it for Stoick so it'd be both).

💥💥END SPOILERS💥💥

...See, lots of juicy spoilers but still nothing real "major". Go look at that thread if you haven't already for all the info we know from Annecy.

Have you read the interviews Dean has given the last few weeks, too? The latest confirms that any spin offs will be about different characters and will take place at a different time, so the rumors about Rescue Riders being about Valka training the core six riders is baloney. He has also said that how Grimmel looks in the trailer will not be his final physical appearance in the movie because they're still tweaking everything, including the scenes that made it into the trailer. So my concerns earlier that how some of the scenes looked unfinished were justified, though I'm no longer worried. And the "Hidden World" is a vast underground area spanning the globe so.... there could be dragons under our very feet!! 😀 Which also answers your question earlier about if dragons occurred world wide or just in the Barbaric Archipelago. He's also confirmed that the movie will play with timelines so they'll jump back in time and ahead in time a number of times throughout the movie. I'm still really wishing and hoping for an appearance of a very little Hiccup.

Anyway, hope this little surprise message finds you well. Hope the weekend is behaving for you, too. 😊

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 00:53, June 17, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Light Fury Classification
Good evening,

Yeah, I agree this whole issue with species/sub-species/variation of the Light Fury is confusing. I just know that Dean's actual words were that she's a "variation" of the Night Fury species. He has also said that she's not a "Night Fury", though I could have sworn that in one of his recent interviews he did say she was a "Fury", though I can't remember where I read that and my searching is fruitless. However, though he's not a biologist, there is such a term as a "variation of species". So I tried to do a little research on "species variation". And they are similar enough to produce fertile offspring. This is a great little presentation I found on species variation for educational purposes. It might shed some light on this predicament. When he said that "Light Fury" is a "species name" given to her by Hiccup and Astrid, that may have been an example of him not being familiar with the correct biological terminology.

I've always wondered about the difference between the different dragon species too. Like, they're all reptiles, right? And from there, they're classified as "dragon", and from there... then what? Class (Tital, Sharp, etc)? Or wyvern/four legged? Maybe if dragons of two different classes produced offspring, those might be infertile. Or a two legged and four legged dragon in the same class might produce infertile offspring. Would a two legged dragon belonging to one class and a four legged dragon of another class be able to produce offspring at all? When it comes down to it, dragons are a fictional species so we might never know such details of their biology.

In the long run, we can always change details in the articles later as new info arises.

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 01:31, June 18, 2018 (UTC)

As Dublin said, considering that dragons are a fictional animal, there may be some things that break the law considering that the prosucers of the film aren't experts in biology. I think that this conflict between Night Fury and Light Fury is pretty similar with the one between Death Song and Slithersong. I hope that everything will need to know about the difference between the two will be revealed in the actual movie. Until then, we can only speak hypocritically. I think we can all wait until then, right?

As for my opinion, I think that the Light Fury is a sub-species as she is too similar to the Night Fury to be a separate species entirely. However, this is only my point of view and it might be proved wrong when the movie is released.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:32, June 18, 2018 (UTC)

In my opinion, I see the Light Fury as a species, not a subspecies. Toothless is still the only Night Fury, and Dean said as much. I think that we need to leave it as is, and wait for more details about the Light Fury. I don't think we can make a proper decision, based on the trailer alone. I'd wait until "How to Train Your Dragon.com" puts information about the Light Fury on its' website. I'd say that won't happen till closer to film release, or around the time the film is released. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 13:42, June 18, 2018 (UTC)

I'm not a biology major but I've been through a few biology courses, and based on what I've learned thus far.. I'm not entirely on board the idea of the Light Fury being a subspecies. As you pointed out, the differences are too great. What would make sense would be if they share a common descent but otherwise remain individual, separate species. And while they are genetically related close enough to produce offspring, they usually prefer not to intermingle. --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 20:05, June 18, 2018 (UTC)

Unnamed Island image
The island appears on both versions of Hiccup's map, actually. It is right next to Dragon Island, to the left. You may also be able to obtain a copy of the map together with Guide to the Dragons vol.1, if I remember correctly, or with The Art of HTTYD 2. I hope this helps.

Thorndrum (talk) 14:34, June 18, 2018 (UTC)

The one I used is from the "Art of" book. In RTTE the map was vastly reworked, so the island looks a little different.

Thorndrum (talk) 16:59, June 18, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Spacing between some templates
Yeah, I noticed that too. The same thing goes with Template:ROBStats and Template:SODStats. Unfortunately, I also tried some things to fix that, but it didn't seem to work. I'm not an expert at coding and stuff, but I will try again.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  05:09, June 24, 2018 (UTC)

Ok, so I tried a few things, but none were successful. Im not sure how can that be resolved.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  09:52, June 24, 2018 (UTC)

I tried cluttering the templates together in different ways, then used the preview mode, but it didn't seem to make much of a difference. Also, please call me Tauriel. It becomes a bit annoying to have this generic name, but unfortunately I can't change it because of a problem that I have with logging into my email account.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  17:11, June 24, 2018 (UTC)

I've just edited the template. It's really just a simple issue of leaving a line at the bottom of the template code, nothing major. It should work fine now. If you see any more issues, do let me know. Also, do note that this will only work if the templates are entered without spacing the source editor. So it has to be like this:

Instead of

--https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  10:00, June 26, 2018 (UTC)

Drago's Bewilderbeast's location in RoB
Regarding the island where Drago's Bewilderbeast is located in Rise of Berk, it appears that it doesn't have a name. Should it appear on the Unnamed Islands page? Or should we wait and see if it receives a name in a future update?

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  06:24, June 27, 2018 (UTC)

I have got Drago's Bewilderbeast and I can take screenshots too, with the island unlocked and without the trees/rocks.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:09, June 28, 2018 (UTC)

Re: RoB's New Summer Dragons ...
Sure! I know about the update too, since they said about it a few days ago on their Facebook. However, I'm a bit disappointed about the Purple Death, the new legendary dragon. I saw a video on YouTube about it and it appears that it has the exact same animation and roar as the Green Death. Also, it doesn't have a "cinematic" animation and its only ability is to double the raw amber the legendary dragons bring when searching. The only thing that is interesting about it is that the body of water where it is located has lots of corals and barnacles around. I think that Rise of Berk should have waited more before releasing another legendary and give it unique characteristics instead of copying another dragon.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:46, June 29, 2018 (UTC)

Actually, the Screaming Death from RoB is the same one from the TV show. It says that in the quests that come along with it. And now that I mentioned them, I'm wondering why RoB hasn't released quests for Drago's Bewilderbeast and the Purple Death. There could have been interesting facts about the latter, that were not mentioned in the comic.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  10:39, July 1, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Warlords ...
Hi Lady!

From what I've heard and understand, three new villains were very briefly and vaguely introduced at Annecy, and they were described as "warlords", but sounds like that's just their description rather than a canonical name. Most of the detailed summaries of the HTTYD3 panel hardly even mentioned them, but someone took special notice that one of them was a woman with black hair and silver armour, and went all crazy theorizing that Heather was in the movie and was now a villain (insert all the eye rolls here). 😒 So the fandom was crazy for a few days over this new "juicy" info. The cosplayer who was at Annecy and admitted to mentioning the woman to this crazed fan explained that she was a "warlord", and stressed time and again that it wasn't Heather. In fact she appeared to be more mature like Valka, and Asian. But that didn't stop the rumors to spread throughout social media that Heather was an evil "warlord" in the movie. The page you're inquiring about was created during this hype, so the term "Warlords" probably came from this rumor rather than anything official that Dean said. At least the page didn't mention that Heather was their leader. 😜 But... yeah, the page probably shouldn't exist. At least not yet.

The fandom is crazy right now, I'm telling ya. 😂

Hope that gives some clarification!

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 00:12, July 1, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed that, too. And it bugs me. I remember reading somewhere that they were just trying to make all the villains appear to be non-native to the Archipelago. So, "strangers" basically. And the cultural diversity issue happened without them trying. No clue where I read it, though, much less if it was an official source or not. I also remember a fan discussion after RttE S5 came out about how Johann is the first real villain that doesn't have brown eyes. It was a running joke that if a new character appeared and they had brown eyes, you could bet they would be revealed as a villain at some point. I can't begin to say I relate to being a non-Caucasian, but I can relate to the stigma attached to brown eyes. Irish with freckles and even red tint in my hair, but apparently I'm made out to be a "bad guy" because of my dark brown eyes. That's always bummed me out a bit so I can relate in a small way. At least I can be thankful for Eret, but I know many people don't even have that much. It would have been really nice to see some "good guys" who were "strangers" too though. If anything, it could serve as a lesson to children that good and bad has nothing to do with culture, skin tone, or place of origin.

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 02:03, July 1, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Layout for Galleries
I thought that normal galleries shouldn't have images sorted by episode headings, unlike sub-galleries (like Gallery: Heather / Race to the Edge Season 3). However, if not, you can rollback my edits.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  16:59, July 1, 2018 (UTC)

I would have to agree that having subsections for episodes for a gallery looks much neater and makes it easier for a user to get to the section of the gallery they are trying to get to. The subsections are added to the contents of the page and when you click on the subsection names in the contents box it takes you right to the section you clicked, which can be very helpful, particularly on longer gallery pages. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 20:16, July 1, 2018 (UTC)

Hmm, personally I think it depends how many pictures there are. For instance, if there's not enough pictures to warrant a separate gallery page, the first image from an episode can be titled in a caption. And even if there's enough images to warrant a separate gallery page, if there's only going to be one or two images in each sub header, it would look less cluttered if only the first image from each episode be titled in a caption rather than have sub headers. But if there's a lot of images, like there are for Krogan's Singetail, it would look more organized if there were sub headers for each episode. It would also be easier to keep the images organized later if more images are added, as well as quicker and easier to add new images.

Though that would also leave the issue of how many images exactly would warrant sub headers, and which galleries have few enough images to stick with titles in the captions only. So that would be something else we'd have to decide.

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 20:30, July 1, 2018 (UTC)

Hi! hthis was not written in the Manual of Style, but I vaguely remember the consensus being episode titles should only be mentioned in the captions. This is to prevent excessively length "Contents" boxes and for many galleries (mainly the dragon species ones) each episode has only one or two pictures but the subject appears in numerous episodes, making it rather unsightly. But for sub-galleries for seasons, which should be created when the season has at least 20 images, the headers will be episode titles. Looking at Gallery: Krogan's Singetail, there should have been a separate gallery for Season 5 with episode titles as headings. If I'm not wrong, this was the general consensus when the MoS was first made with the other admins and User:Lavamelon. And most of the galleries for major characters follow this format. I'm not exactly sure if anything has changed during the course of my inactivity. But I believe the Manual of Style does need a little bit of revision, as a few policies have been updated but not recorded, and I'll get to that sometime today. For now, let me know what you think of this gallery formatting first and do keep me updated on what the other staff think! --https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  02:42, July 2, 2018 (UTC)

I agree. Having sub-headings for episodes would make the page look more organized. --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 02:44, July 2, 2018 (UTC)

I agree with Dublin and Woolly. If there are only a few pictures from each episode something appeared in, then the name of the episodes should appear in the captions. And if not, there should be sub-headings. As for Gallery: Krogan's Singetail, I think it should be separated in sub-galleries, one for season 5 and one for season 6.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:36, July 2, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Template for image policy reminder?
That is a great idea. Poor naming of images is the most common problem for users on this wiki. I believe putting a template on the users talk page like that help can be helpful. because it tells the user how to name an image properly. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 21:15, July 1, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks!

Also thanks for your input for the Gallery layout. We'll see what the others say!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  21:19, July 1, 2018 (UTC)

Yep! I'm fine with your proposition. Do let me know when everyone has reached a consensus, and I will update the MoS. Thanks! https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  12:55, July 2, 2018 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 04:02, July 3, 2018 (UTC)

I agree with that. However, I don't see how the source of the images should be linked. If you press on them, they lead you to the gallery and it's not like we could add the source like with do with the quotes as a small [src] would look weird there.

Oh, I thought you meant the image that is in the Template:Galleries. Yes, of course, those images need a source.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  14:46, July 4, 2018 (UTC)

Unidentified animal in RoB
Hi Ladybrasa! The new RoB update was just released for me. It appears that I was right about the Purple Death when I said that it may have something interesting related to the aquatic life. However, I can't indentify this:

It looks a bit like coral, but it also doesn't. Do you have any idea what it could be?

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  05:24, July 4, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I did. I think option 2 is better for a few reasons:


 * 1) The sub-headings would make the 'Contents' box big, which is kind of annoying (for me) sometimes.
 * 2) If a character appears in more than 2 episodes of a season, then that character already has/should have a separate gallery, so there would be maximum 2 captions.

Also, thank you for recognizing the brain coral.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  14:27, July 4, 2018 (UTC)

As for the category, I'm not sure it would be a really useful one. The only kind of image categories are character images and media (episode, film etc) images. A renders category wouldn't fit in either.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  15:15, July 4, 2018 (UTC)

Re: References for the Crimson Goregutter
Hi Lady,

They were verbally introduced by Dean at Annecy. Their design, and the design of the Hob Gobbler were discussed and seen on screen. They are two of the rescue dragons from the "Rescue Mission" scene which sounds to be the opening scene for the movie when it is released. Since we don't have a video of the presentation, the sources provided by fans who were present should be reliable. They just don't come from an official crew member. And since it was a verbal introduction, the spelling might need to be changed later. But the info should be legit.

There's too many tweets and comments to scroll through to find where the name "Crimson Goregutter" was mentioned, but I remember reading it on Twitter. 🚨WARNING: SPOILERS BEHIND THE FOLLOWING LINK!🚨 Here is a detailed description of the Annecy presentation, including the introduction of these two new dragons. Unfortunately the name isn't mentioned here either, as the author of this summary likely couldn't remember what they were called when she wrote it.

Hope that helps! 😊

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 03:25, July 8, 2018 (UTC)

Edit: Looks like I gave up searching too soon!

Here Dean himself is quoted saying its name. Scroll down to "Rescue Mission".

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 04:40, July 8, 2018 (UTC)

COLLECTED INTERVIEWS, ETC. LINKS FOR HTTYD3

 * DeBlois, Dean. I’m Dean DeBlois, director of the How To Train Your Dragon movies, and can’t wait for you to see our third movie this March. AMA!. (June 7, 2018). Reddit.
 * Light Fury, Unnamed Light Fury, Coming-of-Age storyline, The Hidden World


 * Alexander, Bryan. Toothless is in love! New photos from 'How to Train Your Dragon 3'. (June 6, 2018). USA Today Life.
 * Light Fury, Unnamed Light Fury, Toothless


 * Shaw-Williams, Hannah. (Date Published - Jun 30, 2018) How to Train Your Dragon 3 Interview: Director Dean DeBlois. ScreenRant.
 * The Hidden World, Unnamed Light Fury abilities, Night vs Light Fury


 * Giardina, Carolyn, (Date Published - June 14, 2018) 'How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World': Director Dean DeBlois Reveals New Details. The Hollywood Reporter.
 * Automatic Tail, Coming-of-Age storyline, Unnamed Light Fury, Toothless, Hob Gobbler, Crimson Gorecutter, Grimmel the Grisly


 * Question for Dean DeBlois from Brenton Naicker. (Date Posted - June 10, 2018). Twitter
 * Deathgrippers


 * HTTYD3 Pannel: A Long Summary. (Date Posted - June 17, 2018). Tumblr
 * Crimson Gorecutter, Deathgripper, Hob Gobbler, Toothless, Light Fury, Grimmel the Grisly, the Hidden World, Hiccstrid, Automatic Tail, Supporting Characters, Berk

Re: Current ROB Gauntlet Event ...
Actually, that's an in-game typo. It shows for me the same thing. I guess you should let the image on the page and mention the typo somewhere (maybe in the trivia section?).

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  16:57, July 8, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Revisiting Gallery Layouts
A few things, first, I am fine with what you proposed in terms of the gallery layout. Secondly, in relation to that in terms of the image policy as covered in the manual of style, another thing besides the bad naming of images, and excessive uploads of pictures is that I see a lot is people uploading pngs. While there is nothing against uploading pngs, jpgs are a much more preferred format for pictures with little or no words on them, as the file size for them is smaller than pngs, and the upload faster then pngs. Lastly, congrats on getting the badge for making an edit on this wiki for 200 consecutive days. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 01:02, July 9, 2018 (UTC)

I actually am not familiar with the IPhone, as I have never had one. Too expensive for me. I have only ever had phones with the android system on them, with the phone brand I use being LG. So no, I can't help you with that. To further clarify about pictures, pictures with little or no words should be jpgs, while pictures with a lot of words are better saved as pngs than jpgs in that case only. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 14:04, July 9, 2018 (UTC)

Great! Hopefully it works really well. Anyway, you said you downloaded an episode from iTunes, which you do after purchasing it. Did you purchase the entire season, or just the episode? Purchasing the entire season (10 episodes) is cheaper than purchasing episodes individually. I do know that any episodes you purchased from a season will reduce the price of buying the season you got it from, so if the season is $17.99 then after purchasing two episodes from it, it will cost $12.01 to purchase the entire season, meaning that you will NEVER pay more than what the full cost of a season is on iTunes. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 16:21, July 9, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Layout for Galleries cont.
Hi Lady,

Apologies for the delayed reply. Holidays are always a time of extra stress for me, so this weekend was extra lazy as I was in recovery mode. Aside from checking in a few times, I wasn't active online much at all. 😥

About the gallery layout issue, I guess I vote for option 2. It really depends how many images there are. If there aren't very many, sub-galleries would be pointless and sub-headers would just clutter the page. So the first image from a specific episode should simply be captioned as such. If there's a lot of images, organizing them under sub-headers would help keep images organized. And if there's a LOT a lot (too tired right now to think of how else to put it, lol), then they can be separated into separate gallery pages/sub-galleries. The question is, how many images should we allow before organizing them under sub-headers, and then how many more should we allow before creating sub-galleries?

Good idea about putting reference links on the wiki somewhere! Am I correct that you put them on your talk page? I'll remember that next time I come across a reference containing confirmed HTTYD3 info. I've actually thought of asking if we should create an actual article listing all the official interviews done by various cast and crew of the movies and the series. Maybe laid out similar to this page. There's tons of great interviews out there with Dean, Jay, Art, and Douglas. A few others by other cast/crew as well. It'll be cool to have them all listed in one place.

Happy Monday. I hate Mondays. But happy Monday nonetheless. 😊

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 06:45, July 9, 2018 (UTC)

Hi Lady,

Back to the gallery layout issue, I think we're on the same page. I'm just not the best with words. 😛 So I may not have been using the terminology you'd otherwise expect. So, to spell it out more clearly, the following is what I'd vote for:
 * If a subject has less than 20-ish images, the gallery should remain on the main article. And the first image from an episode/movie/game should be captioned explaining where it's from.
 * If a gallery doesn't have enough images to warrant a separate gallery page to be created, it should be automatic that separate headings for each episode/movie/game not be included.
 * If a subject has more than 20-ish images, then a separate gallery page should be created in order to keep the main article from getting too long or appearing too cluttered. (I think this is part of the Article Standrads already).
 * On a separate gallery page, if there's still only one or two images from each episode/movie/game, the first image from that episode/movie/game should be captioned explaining where it's from, just like they'd be if the gallery remained on the main article page. Separate headings with only one or two images under each heading seem unnecessary and cluttering.
 * If at least one episode/movie/game has over 9-10 images like you said, then separate headings for each e/m/g should be made. (This is one detail that I didn't address earlier). That way when new images are added later, it would be easier to keep them organized by e/m/g rather than users just adding new images to the end of the list.

So in ending, I think we both agree on how they should be laid out. I was just trying to explain my reasoning and some exceptions we may come across.

And a sub-heading-

Hiccup's Workshop
I saw you've been updating Haddock House. Just one minor detail: Hiccup's workshop isn't in the house. It's a little cubby somewhere in Gobber's Blacksmith Shop. 😉 This has been proven in a number of ways-
 * 1) In the deleted scene "Axe to Grind", which clearly takes place in the forge, while waiting for Hiccup to fix her axe, Astrid pulls back a curtain (despite Hiccup begging her not to), to reveal the same space seen in the "Hiccup's Workshop" scene. Complete with drawings of the Mangler which she then asks him about.
 * 2) After their awkward exchange during the "Hiccup's Workshop" scene, Stoick tells Hiccup "I'll see you back at the house". Also, at the beginning of the scene, Hiccup says "Gobber's not here."
 * 3) At the very end of the scene, we see Stoick go through a curtain to leave (similar curtain as in "Axe to Grind"), and clumsily bump into a bunch of weapons hanging from the ceiling. There's also numerous weapons hanging on the wall behind him and stored in barrels on the floor. Way more weapons than Hiccup has ever had in his room.

I will admit that the desk in his workshop looks very similar to the desk in his room, so I can see where the confusion came from if that was the identifying factor.

Just wanted to point that out. I'll let you correct that if you want. 😊

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 20:16, July 9, 2018 (UTC)

Editing Transcripts?
hello Ladybrasa. My name's Hana, an ameature editor here in the wiki :)

I just recently found out that you guys actually had transcripts here in the wiki as well and decided to check one out, my first transcript reading being the rtte ''"Sandbusted". ''I read one and thought that A LOT of imformation was missing so I had to edit it a couple of times because A LOT seemed to be missing from the script, and I have watched that episode many times to know just what happens in the episode and decide to edit it.

I'm not really that confident when it comes to editing yet. I'm not sure if you're the one usually editing these transcripts but if you have the time, can you check my edit and see if it fits with the format? I've only edited 1/4 of the script so if I have made a huge mistake on my edit, i'll only need to erase 1/4 and let it be. I've only edited it until the scene where Hiccup's betrothal gift gets stolen, after that, I no longer made edits, scared that the formal I wrote was wrong.

Can you be kind enough to chekc it and say if it is correct editing or not? If it is, I'll continue editing it until I finish the whole episode :) Thankyou so much!

ThisIsRiderHana (talk) 09:42, July 10, 2018 (UTC)

I've just updated the MoS. Please do take a lot and see if I've got the gallery part right. Thanks! --https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  11:59, July 11, 2018 (UTC)

RE: Categories
I thought it would be helpful to differentiate between Book and Franchise articles, and group Transcripts, Media and Franchise characters, locations and objects together.

So should I instead add the Media category to Transcripts?

Also, there are some categories in certain RTTE Episodes which I feel are not exactly fitting to the episode... Is that just me or are there some incorrect categories?

AWESOME512345 (talk) 10:48, July 14, 2018 (UTC)

I removed the franchise category from all the pages that one user added them to, and then deleted the category. I had to pause the mass categorization and close it and reopen it and set it up to remove the franchise category from the pages, since it after a certain number of pages started to fail to remove the category. That is not the only problem I have had with the mass categorization the tool, it also has given me the exact same problem when adding a category to multiple pictures, or pages, as it starts to fail to add the category after a certain point. I had not had this problem, until maybe a couple of months ago. Anyway, it was much easier to deal with the problem when I was removing pages because of course when re-adding category contents it starts at the page where the system started to fail to remove the category that I asked it to remove. The problem is annoying, but at least I can get around it, even if takes a little longer to do what I am trying to do then it should. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 13:51, July 14, 2018 (UTC)

Unfamiliar Info
Hey there LadyBrasa, can I ask something concerning the Relationship Article between Hiccup and Fishlegs? I was reading through the informations on that article and I read something that I am quite unfamiliar with. The words being:

''"They've been friends at least since they were seven years old, when they spent Snoggletog together, and Hiccup has fond memories of how excited Fishlegs had been that year." ''

I am only curious because I haven't heard or known an information like this before :( Is this a false info? Or maybe I'm just plainly clueless to the topic? If i am, can you please direct to which episode...? Because i am completely unaware.

Thanks! :)

🌹 Hana  (  talk  ) 09:16, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Alright, I will. Thanks anyways! :) ➣🌹 Hana  (  talk  ) 13:37, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Useful tool
I'm not sure if you knew about it, but there is a tool on the wiki called Multiple Upload that allows you to upload multiple files at once. I only discovered it yesterday and since you uploaded lots of files in the last few days, I thought I should tell you about it since it is very useful for multiple uploads. If you already knew about it, then sorry I bothered you!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  06:56, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Medical Stuff and Templates
Yes, the builder is something normal. Unlike other templates, infoboxes are created/edited differently.

Also, good idea that you thought of an infobox for diseases! It is true that there are not many of them, but important is that there are. Go ahead and make one!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:27, July 26, 2018 (UTC)

Both the infobox and navbox look good to me. However, I removed Eel from the navbox because Eel Pox was already listed there and is kind of the same thing.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:09, July 27, 2018 (UTC)

Re: References
Hi, just want to clarify; when you said I can use the Quote template in the synopsis section, did you mean something like this?

And about the references - I've actually read the Manual of Style before adding those in, though I'm still not sure if I'm doing it correctly - I need some help and verification especially for episodes "The Longest Day", "King of Dragons, Part 2", and "Shock and Awe" if I did it properly. By the way, thank you for giving me extra heads-up about this! Lasscess (talk) 19:07, July 28, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! I will edit the other Episode pages asap to make sure the new format stays consistent. Another thing - I am wondering if images titled like Httyd2-disneyscreencaps.com-4401.jpg should have the candidates for renaming category? Also if you don't mind removing the "In need of organization" template at the top of pages Gallery: How to Train Your Dragon 2 / Screenshots and Gallery: Stoick the Vast (Franchise) / How to Train Your Dragon 2 as I've already organized them specifically by the order they appear in the movie. Thanks again! Lasscess (talk) 04:45, July 29, 2018 (UTC)

A Question ...
Hi Lady, I did something on Mae Whitman's page, you can see the before and after changes in the gallery above; I am wondering if this is alright? Please let me know if it's unnecessary and I will undo it. Lasscess (talk) 00:06, August 1, 2018 (UTC)

Ah, in that case, I'll go ask them about it. By the way thanks a lot for the positive feedback, I really appreciate it. :) Lasscess (talk) 01:18, August 1, 2018 (UTC)

Hi Lady Brasa - I am seeking your opinion on the filmography layout that I edited on T.J. Miller's page. I didn't provide a before and after look here because I think it's better if you see it for yourself. You can somewhat compare the difference with Brook Chalmers', though. Anyway, I thought the white areas were a bit too eye-catching from the rest as its color is very different from the wiki in general. So ... I did some customization and here and there. Please let me know what your thoughts are on this and anything else you would like to suggest. Thanks! Lasscess (talk) 00:12, August 2, 2018 (UTC) (I will be copy/pasting this message to the other staff as well)

Sorry for the delayed reply. So, I updated the background color for TJ's tables for your suggestion and it turned out like this. However, I'm not sure if this is what you expected, I can try other shades of tan if needed. I also updated Brook Chalmers' table's background, however, unlike TJ's previous background, it's solid and not any more transparent. Lasscess (talk) 01:16, August 3, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Media Navbox
Done it! I also removed Rescue Riders from it as we still have no official confirmation of it.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  16:39, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Interview Page
Hi Lady,

That will be very handy in the future I'm sure, thank you! Unfortunately I don't have a collection really; not without looking them all up again at least. I just remember a few times last year when I was trying to do some research on RttE, and I came upon a number of great interviews that included info I hadn't known prior. And the idea of how handy it would be to have all these great interviews organized in one place for quicker reference popped into my head.

I expect a section for the TV series can be added as I see only the movies are included in the page right now. As well as a section for the comics/graphic novels.

And should we include documentaries like the many behind-the-scenes looks that are available on YouTube? And what about things like Tweets and comments on social media that offer authentication?

I'll try to dig up some old interviews, but my job is so busy and stressful during the summer, I'm not going to find the time or energy to do so until next weekend now I'm afraid.

--🍀 ~ 17:15, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

Re: New RoB Dragons - Fall
Good, I already started working on them.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:15, August 19, 2018 (UTC)

Where did you find Defenders and Riders of Berk hd?, cuz the quality of your images changes dramaticallyYoungtrainer (talk) 11:59, August 27, 2018 (UTC)

Featured Articles - Autumn 2018
Hi! Since Autumn is coming soon, I thought we should discuss the new set of featured articles. I nominate Dragonvine for the Featured Other, as it will be released next week and the Skrill for the Featured Dragon because it is very popular among fans. I was thinking that the Featured Character should be one of the main characters, but I'm not sure which one would be the best. What do you think?

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  05:17, August 31, 2018 (UTC)

Re: ‎Quotation marks vs Italics
It appears I misread MoS and mixed the two up. I'll fix it back to how it was. Or you can do it if you want to. Sorry for the inconvenience. --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 23:47, September 1, 2018 (UTC)

Nothing has changed about what is supposed to be italicized and what is supposed to have quotation marks. I have no idea why Alexa is making the episode names be italicized instead of having quotation marks around them. Episode titles are supposed to have quotation marks around them, while movie titles and season titles are supposed to be italicized. The manual of style is correct, and nothing has changed. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 23:59, September 1, 2018 (UTC)

Fixed it back now. Sorry again. The flu is getting to my head. --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 00:10, September 2, 2018 (UTC)

The "SE" and Disc rule update
Hi Lady!

Long time no speak to! You haven't been a target concerning the "se" so it should be safe for me to write normally about the subject.

Regarding adding info on the Interviews page, I have them bookmarked now so they won't be lost. The link to the pictures of the script unfortunately are now lost because they came from a short video that Brennley posted as an IG "story", which is viewable for only 24 hours. But I have both those screen shots saved to my device as well.

Wow, I didn't even notice the relation between Andre and RttE, good observation! Yeah, I think all this new info is pretty solid evidence. It would have been so helpful if "R€šçûè Rîð€rš" had been mentioned somewhere on the script, or at least Bardel. Too bad we still haven't gotten an official announcement yet. But as I mentioned to Alexa, I expect that to come very soon! I'm keeping an eye on it. 😉

And thank you for sticking up for AWESOME12345. He was irritated with her attack on his credibility, and I entirely understand why. I still hope she doesn't make a toxic cesspool of either thread now.

And regarding the disc rule update, that is a very good idea. I was hoping on finishing the re-write this weekend but permission came so late and really only Saturdays are available to me to sit and concentrate on projects like that. So I've barely even started them at this point. I swear, my job takes so much out of me in the summer. Now that it's officially over, I may have more energy and enthusiasm to do things around the wiki again. Maybe even on some weekdays! Shocker! Anyway, should we ask Annabeth if we can add a rule against sharing how to hack the games, watch the series for free, or read the comics for free? I plan on sharing the Discussion Policies with her when I'm done editing them so she can change anything if she wants. I really don't think adding a rule like that should be a problem though.

--🍀 ~ 17:26, September 3, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Don't forget the turkey!
Oh! I completely forgot about him. I remember that I wanted to do it after I did the other dragons, as I wasn't entirely sure what it is (in RoB is listed as a Premium Chicken, which really confused me). I will say it's a turkey for now, but ai will send a message to Ludia to see if the thing mentioned above is an error, or Büttor-Bol (what kind of name is that anyway?) is supposed to be a chicken.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  05:34, September 10, 2018 (UTC)

Well, thanks for clarifying it. I'm from Europe and I don't know much about American traditions and festivities, except for Christmas and Easter, which are celebrated worldwide.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  17:54, September 10, 2018 (UTC)

Can you tell me if you want some help?Youngtrainer (talk) 18:24, September 10, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Like a Rock..
Hi Lady,

Personally, I would have rather waited to create a page for him, but if I may be perfectly honest, I think he has a higher chance of becoming official than The Fire Tides does of ever being published. Forgive me if I sound to have a hang up about that page, but when it was accepted with open arms while other pages are being critiqued for being premature, not having enough info to have a page of their own, and/or not officially announced yet, it's become obvious there's some bias and double standards going on. It's just frustrating because it affects consistency.

Anyway, I'm not accusing you of anything, much less attacking you for making the suggestion. Much love! 💗 I'm just venting, if there's even a chance my voice might me heard. You and Alexa are the closest to being my peers here right now. So thanks for listening.

I hope you're not in the path of Florence. 😧

--🍀 ~ 06:14, September 12, 2018 (UTC)

EXACTLY!!!

EX!

ACT!

LY!

So you see where I'm coming from then! Thank you!! Yes, by all means it can be mentioned on the Comics page, the Dark Horse Comics page, and maybe even the DreamWorks Animation page and Richard Hamilton's page. For all we know right now it's just an idea Richard has. We can only assume Dean has a hand in it too. Regardless that it's confirmed to be an idea of someone official, it's just an idea.

We have an official wiki page for an idea.

Anyway, not looking to start any drama or anything, just voicing my opinion how that doesn't make a stitch of sense to me.

As for the Titan Magazine mini comic, wasn't that part of the July 2014 issue of Titan Magazine? It sounds like it was only available in the UK, too. So I can see why it would be so hard to find. Looking at the Titan Magazine website, I don't even see an archive section. Perhaps somewhere like eBay might list it eventually. But knowing the chances of that are slim, that's frustrating, I'm sorry.

--🍀 ~ 06:14, September 13, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Oblique mentions of plants ...?
I think it's enough of a mention to make a page. Also, I remember Gobber mentioning at one point grapes as a comparation for eyes (I don't really remember the context) in a Riders or Defenders episode, so it wouldn't be the only mention of grapes. As for the book plants, I think that it's okay to make pages. Who knows? Maybe they will be mentioned in the next books.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:24, September 14, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Siggies and Twitter
Hi Lady,

Huh, I didn't even know that could be a thing. Is it even possible for me to crate a page titled something like How to Train Your Dragon Wiki:How to customize your signature ? I didn't save them but I remember snooping around many Talk Pages, both on our wiki and others, for sig codes and I played with a number of them before settling on the one I've had most of last year, and now the one I have now. So there could be a number of codes to choose from, which would give users a nice variety. That might actually be fun to set up. I enjoy playing with codes and colours.

Heh, and yup, that's me. This is the second time screenshots of a tweet of mine have been going viral. It's a little surreal. 😂 Richard's so hospitable, and not mobbed as much as Kevan or Dean are so there's more chance of him seeing when someone tweets at him. I'm honoured he got back to me, and in such detail. Got the answer I was wanting and more! Still doesn't sound like there's much chance of it being published though. I'll see if an appropriate opportunity comes up for me to ask about Bayana and his tribe.

Kinda looks like I should consider creating a Talk Page archive page soon. Never thought I'd see this day come.

--🍀 ~ 19:18, September 16, 2018 (UTC)

So, it just so happens the perfect opportunity came up for me to approach Richard about Bayana. You're welcome! 😉

--🍀 ~ 03:14, September 19, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Image Names
Thanks Lady Brasa! I mustve not seen the whole naming images thing when i read the rules at first but thank you for telling me. Hopefully i didnt cause alot of trouble. THanks again

Nuttetuff (  talk  )  00:15, September 17, 2018 (UTC)Nuttetuff

Sorry for the delayed response to your question. I would have to say that since they are promo pictures, and they are on galleries for such pictures, that it having that logo isn't a problem. There isn't another source that has those pictures without the logo, and cropping them would make it incomplete picture. Since it a promo picture, and not an actual screenshot from the film, the logo is less of a problem. I think pictures not having logos is most important for actual screenshots of films and episodes. Typically promo pictures have logos on them, and there is nothing you can do about that. While on the flip side, it is possible to get screenshots without logos for episodes and films. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 00:26, September 17, 2018 (UTC)

Re: That turkey ...
Actually, I already took care of this. I created a redirect page "Buttor-Bol", so that when a user types "Buttor-Bol" in the search bar, "Büttor-Bol" appears there. I know that redirects shouldn't exist, but I think we can make an exception for this one. Plus, I saw that the Rise of Berk wiki did this too, so I thought it was a good idea.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  05:06, September 23, 2018 (UTC)

Renders of the Gang in their infoboxes
Hello, sorry to bother you, but I think I made the wrong decision in adding the new HTTYD 3 outfits of the Gang with their HTTYD 3 ages as their tabbers' title. I feel as though the latter should be used with their new 'everyday' clothes and not their dragon/fireproof armors. So, should their tabbers' title be renamed into something like "dragon armor" or be removed and put under the "Physical Appearance" heading until their official, normal clothes are published? What do you think?

02:52, September 25, 2018 (UTC)

Sounds good, thank you for your input! I appreciate it.

And it's fine - I'm also sorry for not mentioning the name change earlier.

04:23, September 25, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Being 'sluggish' getting around to wishing you a Happy Birthday!
Thank you!

As for the slugs... Isn't it possible that you csn add the information on the Sea Slug (Books) page? If not, I think "Land Slug" works better.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  03:55, September 25, 2018 (UTC)

Ideas for new sections on articles
Hi! I was talking to Hiccstrid today about the Cast section on episodes/shoets/films etc, and I proposed something new: that after the cast section we should have two more sections: "Locations" and "Objects" where we list the locations and object that appear in that episode. The idea came to me after I saw this on another wiki from which I got other ideas too, such as having a quote at the beginning of the subsections of the Biography sections. Anyway, Hiccstrid agreed with this and I thought that I should ask others too. What do you think?

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  15:07, September 27, 2018 (UTC)

I don't think songs, animals and plants are that important to be linked on episodes/films etc pages. As for events, I think they can be added along with the locations and objects. However, I don't think that a long list would be wrong, as the only things that come after it are the references list and the navigation templaye, two things people don't usually look at. So I think that the list, even if it's long, is okay.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:32, September 28, 2018 (UTC)

I think that except for Chicken, people don't really care about any other animsls besides dragons. Even less for plants. And also, the lists are not that long. I already added them on the episodes of the first two seasons of Rtte. You can have a look there. Oh, and also, I classified buildings as locations and ships as object. I think it's okay to do this.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  16:55, September 29, 2018 (UTC)

Re:‎Dragon "Skin" Armor pages:
Go ahead. Hiccup's already is named dragon scale armor, so his is already named the what you are going to change the other to. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 00:59, October 1, 2018 (UTC)

I think that putting "Wooden Duck" with a link to waterfowl is okay, since it is technically an object with the shape of an animal. As for the other animals and plants, I don't think that they are that important to be linked on episodes. Still, now that I think about it, the only animal who should be linked is Chicken, since she is quite a big character in Rtte.

As for Hiccup's leg, Toothless' tail and Astrid's kransen, I think it's ok to list them on all episodes that they appear in, even though that means almost all episodes (if not all) because sometimes they are the only objects appearing.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  05:25, October 1, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, I completely forgot about Fungus! He was Mildew's sheep, wasn't he? Well, I guess he and Chicken are the only major animal characters. And since "Animal House" is all about animals, I think it's fine to list them on the page.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  14:19, October 1, 2018 (UTC)

Dragon Dropouts, Diversity, and a new book
Hi Lady,

I haven't listened to Dragon Dropouts since Cinema Con. I should make a point to listen to that today while I have time. Wouldn't mind listening to their TIFF podcast, too. I like being as much in the know as an everyday fan possibly could be! Richard liked one of my tweets this morning, which surprised and delighted me. He doesn't follow me, but I'm not going to push my luck there.

Heh, I imagine Dean and Co. know about the flaws but try so hard to shine a positive light on the franchise since it's their "baby". That's actually kind of funny that Mala and Atali were referred to as an attempt to add cultural diversity. Both blonde and blue eyed. Bayana however, yeah that was pretty cool. And about time!

And now I'd like to alert you to a possible new book! Unfortunately I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else yet other than this Aussie publishers site, I sure hope it'll be available in the States, too. Sounds like it'll cover all the main dragons, characters, locations, and possibly events in the franchise; including RttE which it mentions by name! I keep checking back to see if there's cover art yet. Which reminds me, have you noticed that all the HTTYD3 books on Amazon had their cover art replaced by a generic HTTYD3 logo? They may not have been authorized to release the cover art yet. Oops.

Hope you're having a good weekend so far! Now let the hype for tomorrow begin!

--🍀 ~ 18:53, October 6, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Linking
Sorry about the edit I made on Bayana's page, and thanks for fixing it back to how it was. I must've missed that rule the first time I read the Manual of Style -facepalm- so thank you for informing me. I will fix the pages where I've done my mistake to how they were asap.

19:07, October 6, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Uploads
Sorry for the late response again- I didn't even realize you also sent me a message until I refreshed my browser... (One time, I got the "You have Terror mail." notification two times even if I've already viewed this person's message to me :I so, I thought it was just a double notif again.) Anyway, to answer your question, I have an iPhone, though I prefer to download the video I am taking the screenshots from on my laptop. From there, I crop/adjust or change the format of those screenshots using Photoshop before uploading them to the wiki.

20:42, October 7, 2018 (UTC)

Re: New ROB Flocks
Finally I got to answer to you! It's been a really busy week for me amd it's still far from over. Thank you, as always, for the images and yes, it is nice that RoB adds Rtte individuals because we may even get names for those that don't have one, like the fighter Razorwhip from "Stryke Out" or the Dramillion trained by Fishlegs in "Loyal Order of Ingerman". I will start working on them as soon as I can.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  07:50, October 12, 2018 (UTC)

I noticed that about the Smokebreath too. You can, however, take a screenshot of its info panel from the game and try to render it. At least, that's what I would do.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  16:45, October 15, 2018 (UTC)

Re: In-Text Image Borders
Yes, I did remove "thumb" from the images, because I norticed that the red line takes some space and for short pages the images need to take as less space as possible. Plus, that red doesn't really work with the other colors of the page: blue infobox, yellowish background and black writing. But that's just my thought. If you want to change it back I can undo my edits.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:30, October 15, 2018 (UTC)

I think that if we were to change the color, it should probably be white, as it would fit with any background we may have. Unfortunately, I don't know how I could change it (I'm not really an expert incoding) or it it is even possible. Maybe Woolly Howl has an idea about it, but she's inactive at the moment. I'm not quite sure of what should we do right now. However, I do agree with you that renders look a bit weird with the line around them, so at least we can take care of them.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  15:48, October 15, 2018 (UTC)

Done! For now, I tried white, as I first suggested. You may take a look on... well, almost all pages. If you don't like it, I can change it to some brown, as you suggested.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  05:11, October 20, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Ehrm ... Another Twitter Favor?
Hello ma'am. Where, pray tell, do you get the idea that I have infinite amounts of time? 😂

Ok, I don't mind trying to ask him about Skulder and the link to SoD. I'll keep my eyes open for another good opportunity to ask. And I don't think you're over thinking it. I agree it's fun finding out behind-the-scenes facts and how they all link together. I've never played the games, but I'm also kind of curious.

Hope your Tuesday is starting well. It's too warm here. I want October already. I don't know what happened to it.

--🍀 ~ 16:51, October 16, 2018 (UTC)

Re: DreamWorks Press: Dragons
Unfortunately, I don't own the app anymore. I used to, but it disappeared after a while. I don't remember deleting it. All of the information I put on the Returnwing and the Baby Changewing page came from videos of the game on Youtube. I can check those again if you want any information. Lo g o   Dra go n Cre ator      01:19, October 17, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Picking colors for certain site coding/features
Hi! I'll try to list down what can be done as clearly as possible here:

Content Box I'm not really sure what you're referring to by content box! Perhpas you could link me to the template or a page?

Quotation Marks For quotation marks, simply visit the quote template, you can simply search up  and change the colour accordingly. Do note there are 2 mentions of this in the template!

Header For this, access the MediaWiki:Wikia.css page. Then, under this code:

.WikiaArticle h2 { border-bottom: solid 1px #960404; } Change  to the colour of your choice, preferably to in hex colour code.

Captions For this, access MediaWiki too for this code:

/* Caption Border*/ .WikiaArticle .article-thumb, .WikiaArticle .article-thumb img { border-radius:5px; } .WikiaArticle .article-thumb { background-color: rgba(255,255,255,0.2) !important; overflow: hidden !important; border: 1px solid #a02000 !important; border-radius:5px; padding: 3px !important; text-align: center !important; color: #000000 } Then, replace the current colour with the colour of your choice.

If you do require any more help, do let me know! I will be much more active in around 2 weeks' time as my exams have just ended but I'll be taking some time off to unwind! I might be able to directly edit the templates and codes then. Hope this helps!https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  14:39, October 19, 2018 (UTC)

Hi! I see what you mean! The code for that is also on the MediaWiki page. It is under

.WikiaArticle .toc { border: 1px solid #960404; border-radius: 5px; } --https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  13:38, October 20, 2018 (UTC)

Skulder in Dragonvine
Happy Thursday the 25th of October, Lady! It's an exciting day! 😀

I'm just writing to let you know that a good opportunity to ask Richard about Skulder finally came up. So here ya go! 😊

--🍀 ~ 07:21, October 25, 2018 (UTC)

I Will make the Page for The new trailer plecase can you tell to other members? Youngtrainer (talk) 19:15, October 25, 2018 (UTC)

I Will make the Page for The new trailer plecase can you tell to other members? Youngtrainer (talk) 19:15, October 25, 2018 (UTC)

I mean to put more images for the new trailerYoungtrainer (talk) 22:44, October 25, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I'm adding every image to it's rightful ctaegory. NightFuryFan (talk) 23:53, October 25, 2018 (UTC)

Snaptrapper in The Hidden World?
Hi Lady! After seeing the new trailer, which I must admit that it was better than the first one, I think I might have noticed the Snaptrapper's first appearance since Book of Dragons. More exactly, in the scene when Toothless roars to the dragons of The Hidden World. However, I'm not entirely sure, as my screen resolution is small and the lighting was not in my favor. Since you are quite an expert in editing photos and stuff, I was wondering if you could help.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  17:03, October 26, 2018 (UTC)

No, not that one. The other one with Toothless standing on a white thing with his wings stretched out, looking at thousands of dragons below him.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  03:55, October 27, 2018 (UTC)

Well, I guess then we'll have to wait for the film's release and maybe we'll see (or not) Snaptrappers in other scenes inside the Hidden World.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  16:56, October 28, 2018 (UTC)

RE: Recent Artwork on Discussions
I also had the suspicion when I first saw the image like when it was first posted, but only decided to check it out until now. As for how I found it, it's actually really easy. I just use a reverse image search like this one. All you have to do is download the image, upload it to the page and then click 'search images'. This then brings up searches from Google, Bing and Yandex. I always check all of them if I can't find the image from one. You just click on one of them ,like Google, and it'll come up with similar matches to the image or even the image itself! It also gives you the link to the website it is from. Sometimes the image can be from many websites, so you would have to dig deep to find the original creator. But for 'Blood Boiler' it was easy. Using a reverse image search is so easy that anyone can do it. Hope this helped!

How To Train Your Deathsong 13:21, November 4, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Titan Wing Dragons page
Hmmm... I never thought that we should classify the Titan Wing Dragons page. I think we could say it is a dragon stage page, along with Dragon Eggs and Baby Dragons? However, three pages are not enough to make a navbox and an infobox just for them. Plus, there are many pages that don't have an infobox or a navbox, like Fire Types or Color Varieties, so I guess it's not a problem if some pages lack infoboxes and navboxes.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  06:37, November 6, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Happy Un-Birthday to You!
Wow! It looks so much better than the old one! From me, it definitely has a yes! Still, you should ask the others too, just to be sure.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  05:12, November 10, 2018 (UTC)

Re:‎Happy Birthday Template?
I think the template you created is a good template. It looks better than the other one. Plus, I love that the template you created for birthday wishes is much more colorful than the other one. I think we should use the one you created instead of the one that had been previously used. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 16:44, November 10, 2018 (UTC)

I love it! Much more personal and colorful than the other one. And it has more personality! As much as I love that sweet dragon, the old template just doesn't have that "Happy Birthday!" feel to it. I always found it to be a wee bit odd for a birthday greeting. So yes, yours is much better imho, nice job on it. 😊

--🍀 ~ 17:54, November 10, 2018 (UTC)

I agree with Dub and HiccstridFan. I like yours better. :) --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 18:23, November 10, 2018 (UTC)

Re: 400 year Anniversary Page
Your welcome! I thought about making it too for a few weeks because I thought it already existed. I only noticed its absence when I was adding events to episode pages. And yes, I do work sometimes on the RoB wiki, mostly uploading images, and I know one of the admins. I will tell him to rename that page.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  17:05, November 11, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, apparently I could rename it myself, so the typo is fixed now.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  17:36, November 11, 2018 (UTC)

why you and httyd fan likes so much to delete many images that other people put, and what is the matter with the images you think that only the perfect moment is just included?

Youngtrainer (talk) 16:53, November 12, 2018 (UTC)

"Meet the New Dragons" Spoilers
Alright. I will do that. Thank you!--http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/f/f8/Toothless_Glasses.gif/revision/latest?cb=20161110045342 Annabeth and Percy  🎵You're scared, I'm nervous, but I guess that we did it on purpose.🎵  http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/f/f8/Toothless_Glasses.gif/revision/latest?cb=20161110045342 01:42, November 16, 2018 (UTC)

Although I understand that those images had to be delet due to copyright policies, I think that we should keep the "Night Light" page. Even if it has a big spoiler for the film, we, as a wiki, should have all the information about the film. I am also working on a wiki with films and series coming out each few months and they don't mind posting spoilers (with a warning, of course). Anyway, my last argument is that this spoiler is not as big as, let's say Stoick's death (if that would have been leaked out before the film's release) and fans have been expecting it for a while.

However, if the others think otherwise too, then we'll have the page when the time comes. I kept a copy of those images, just in case we will ever need them.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  05:15, November 16, 2018 (UTC)

Re: "Meet the New Dragons" Spoilers
Yeah, I agree, the spoiler tag is not that helpful for the recent activity list. However, what you said gave me another reason to restore that page: a lot of people have seen those images and now that they have been taken down, they wonder if they are truly real. And I don't mean just the people on this wiki. I visited Berk's Grapevine recently (to see if they have anything to say about those spoilers) and I noti ed that most people over there are still unsure if those images and information was canon. So I think it would be a good idea to asure people that what they have seen is true.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  19:41, November 17, 2018 (UTC)

Well, I have an account on Berk's Grapevine, but I haven't really used it recently. I was an active user like 2 years ago, so maybe things have changed. Anyway, while I was there, it was mostly like how it is in the discussions, except that people talked about a lot of things, not just Httyd related stuff. So that's all I can tell you about the site and it's your choice if you want to join or not.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  08:20, November 18, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, but you're not a bad guy, Grimmel is! 😊

Anyway, I saw that post yesterday and I understand why the images had to be deleted. Really, I do. I guess that my point of view is different from yours (and most of the other users) because I like spoilers quite a lot, as long as they are not of a character's death.

Also, if you don't mind talking about those spoilers, I'm really wondering if Ludia idea of dragon hybrids for Titan Uprising came from the Night Lights. I mean, they probably already know the whole story of The Hidden World, since the official desscription from Play Store states that there will be The Hidden World elements in the game. Also, there haven't been any dragon hybrids in Httyd until now, so it feels too big of a coincidence that a game, which will be released after the third film, came up with a new idea for the universe that will also appear in the film, if it makes sense what I'm saying

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  17:07, November 18, 2018 (UTC)

Although I liked the Httyd universe for its scientific side too, I think that, for a game at least, it defies a bit the laws of nature (maybe a bit more). Ever since I saw dinosaur hybrids in Jurassic World, I thought it would be interesting to see dragon hybrids, before I realised that it would scientifically be impossible, because in that film, the hybrids were created in very specific conditions using the most advanced technology, while vikings wouldn't have either of this things. If you happened to saw the film, then you might know that those hybrids were created by mixing DNA of two dinosaurs (and a few other animals) and were mule. At first, those scientists created two, but one of them was too weak and was killed by the other one, which was much stronger, despite the fact that they hatched at the same time. Also, that hybrid turned out to be a mess (in my opinion), as its only instict was to kill.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure that the game wouldn't care about such details and will make all the hybrids live a healthy life, because if they die, I assume that would cost the player resources.

As for Rise of Berk, not only the Gauntlets and dragons were lame; they haven't changed the opening screen images for two years and the last new feature they added to the game was the dragon statues a year ago. Not only this, but the Purple Death has the exact same design and roar as the Green Death. And the new quests they added in the last update don't have a story, neither a proper title. To give you an example, all the quests from Dargo's Bewilderbeast are called "Unleash Drago's Bewilderbeast" and there's only one line in them said by Valka, one of them being: "We need to prepare for the arrival of the new one?" which gives no information about how Drago's Bewilderbeast ended up on Berk. And not to remind you that Magmadon, a premium Eruprodon, as well as Skykarver, a Windwalker, have been introduced in the game a yesr and a half ago and their species are still absent from the game.

I hope Titan Uprising is the reason they have been so lazy about this game, because I don't feel the same excitement playing it now as I had three years ago.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  19:30, November 18, 2018 (UTC)

Re: New Preview images from the HTTYD:HW book
Hey, I just finished adding that reference to places where the guide book mentioned the new info. Can you please check if I did them right? However, there are these images that you've missed to delete regarding the new MoS rule: Light Fury info.jpg, HTTYD Hidden World page 5.jpg.

04:46, November 20, 2018 (UTC)

Some Titan Uprising stuff...
Hi Lady! So, I don't know if you knew, but Ludia has a site where common questions about their games (including the answers) are found and they just added Titan Uprising. Since the Rise of Berk page has some of the info from that site, I thought I should add info on the Titan Uprising page too, at least about the overall gameplay. However, I'm not sure if I should reference it and how. What do you think?

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  13:22, November 23, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice! And I did know that tbey have a limited time release for iOS. Unfortunately, I am on Android so I won't be able to play it until the next year when they release it.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  06:26, November 24, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Next Round of RoB Dragons ...
Yes, I noticed that too. I'm glad that they finnaly decided to make upgrades for Eret's boat too. I've been following Risecof Berk on their Facebook page and players have been asking for it ever since amber was introduced. However, I'm more interested in their new additions: the Grim Gnasher and the Slitherwing, which weren't shown in those preview images. I'm especially curious about the Slitherwing and how did they manage to make it stand on the platform.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  05:01, November 25, 2018 (UTC)

Re:User to Watch
Thanks for letting me know. I will keep an eye on that user. If the user continues to make edits that add speculation to a pages, I will take the necessary course of action. Of course being that the user has made similar such edits on other wikis, I will look into that as well, and take those into consideration if a block becomes necessary. But for now, I will keep my eye on that user and their edits. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 02:45, November 26, 2018 (UTC)

Titan Uprising's hybrids
Hi Lady! Since you are one of the people who don't like the idea of hybrids in TU, I thought I should share this with you:. I'm also wondering if we should add this to the Dragons: Titan Uprising page with a reference link or not.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  09:24, November 27, 2018 (UTC)

I think the discussion could be mentioned in the trivia section, but I can't seem to have a godd formulation for it. As for the Crimson Death, I can't verify it as of now, but perhaps you could ask in the discussion about it. Maybe Charles can also explain why did they create a "Crimson" Death instead of using other Deaths.

Clips can only be uploaded on the wiki from YouTube, Dailymotion or Vimeo, so we have to wait until it is uploaded on one of these sites (most likely YouTube). Looking closely, I don't think that the Scuttleclaw in the clip is an adult, but more like a Short Wing/teenager. Anyway, I'll keep an eye on it, and upload it to the wiki as soon as possible.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  05:43, December 1, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Double and Triple Posting in Discussions
Look at you, all breaking the rules! J/k, you're fine. 😊 Double posting is fine anyway, and in this situation even triple posting is ok because enough time had gone by. If you had only edited your last comment, no one, including Charles, would have gotten a notification that there was new content to read. I'll comment on the post again, too, just to clarify for other users who saw that.

I never noticed that the ability to edit your own posts/comments had an expiration. It does kind of make sense though for the reason I stated above; no one would have gotten a notification that there was new content to read. I know now, though, which may come in useful in the future.

Richard is very receptive on Twitter! He's not bombarded with questions or mentions like Dean, Simon, Jay, and Kevan are so he actually sees any questions and comments. He hasn't been super active though over the last few weeks. And he turned over the task of choosing names for the baby Silkspanners to the Dragon Academy Dropouts and Berk's Grapevine. Neither have mentioned it since the initial announcement. And you should totally join Twitter especially if you like keeping on top of breaking news! It has a very active HTTYD community including fans of the games. 😉

I hope you're having a good weekend so far. I'm watching Snoggletog movies. And Melody is begging for her supper. I should probably go feed her if I don't want to be massacred during the night. 😼

--🍀 ~ 04:51, December 2, 2018 (UTC)

Re: New Classification Info
Why must all important information come out when I'm sleeping? Anyway, I think we should list Mr. Hamilton's classes as official, and put the RoB and SoD onesjust on the dragons' pages. By that I mean that in the Navbox and on the Dragon Classes page, we should keep just Mr. Hamilton's info. However, there should be two exceptions for the Submaripper and the Hobgobbler, because they are officially categorised in two classes. This way, no one would have doubts about which dragon belongs officially to which class.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  08:57, December 9, 2018 (UTC)

I did already change the franchise dragons and dragon characters navboxes as I mentioned earlier. Hope this is okay for everyone.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  17:07, December 9, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Category clarification
The category is destined for both dragon species and dragons characters.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  17:36, December 10, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Administrative action
I just blocked the user you asked to be blocked. I blocked the user for two weeks. First off I know you left the user a message, and they still kept adding speculative/false information after that. I decided that a short block was necessary since what the user was doing didn't warrant a long block. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 22:05, December 10, 2018 (UTC)

I blocked the user. Thanks!--

When a Discussions post is reported, it goes to a report page that moderators/admins can see, but we don't get notified that a new comment has been reported. We would have to go to that page, which I highly doubt any of us checked. I knew about your report because I saw your message to Hiccstrid fan, but I'm about to do my daily check in anyway.--

Re: Administrative Action?
I noticed that too. However, I was thinking about protecting those pages to admin and content mod level, as that user isn't the only one who added speculation.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:43, December 11, 2018 (UTC)

What it means that category aka Header where You put me?

I askedYoungtrainer (talk) 09:37, December 14, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Comments/suggestions about some page arrangements
I am not the one who came up with the idea of naming the biography sections after what the characters do, I only thought about putting them in italics. When this became a new rule for the wiki, I only saw it on the Biography sections and not on other sections. Now that I think about it a bit, it kind of makes sense: characters do things, while objects and buildings are used to do things; they don't do them by themselves. Anyway, before I get lost in thought, I think that we should keep for bios only, if you agree, of course.

As for the episode page layout, is this what you mean?

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  17:02, December 16, 2018 (UTC)

Re:Hopefully Helpful Page about Images
I think that was a great idea to make that page. I will announce it to the wiki through announcements, which is a new feature. As of tomorrow forum threads will no longer be able to highlighted, which was an admin only thing. Unlike highlighting a forum thread which was an admin only action, announcements is a feature that can be used by admins and discussions moderators. Once I post the announcement it will be active for 30 days, and only one announcement can be active at a time. Anyway, I will post the announcement as soon as possible. On the topic of images, I really don't like all the images posted from the trailers and clips, as it means once the film is released on DVD sometime in the second half of next year, there will be repeat images. I think it is important for pictures from clips and trailers to be limited. Also, I do know it terms of picture names and types that a person getting a screenshot will get a specific type and a random name of letters and numbers, and thus screenshots shouldn't be taken on phones. Anyway, thanks for creating the page. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 02:00, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

I think that might work. Of course when the tine comes, uploading over the original with a better quality picture that comes from watching the actual film. The thing with trailer screenshots and clips is that if one gets the pictures from a youtube video it is impossible to avoid the channel logo that appears in the corner in the photos. In those cases that is where uploading a new version of the new photo would be most important when the time comes. Also, to clarify, if you know how to change the file type and name of a photo you got on your phone then that is fine. As you said, some of those who get screenshots on their phone might not know how to rename and to change the file type on the phone.

In regards to the film with spoilers that will start coming in starting January 3rd, at that time I plan to put the spoiler buttons and hide spoiler templates on pages that have spoilers in specific section. The actual film page and transcript and gallery all would just have the spoiler template at the top. I know that for me that would me exposing me to some spoilers but I can handle that unlike those who actively try to avoid spoilers.

Also, I will be looking to make sure no illegal links to watch the film are shared or deleted if shared, because with a lot of films and shows there are people who pirate the film, and put it on the internet. I know that happened with the second film before it became available Blu-ray, DVD and digital. That also means I don't want people uploading photos from parts of the film not seen in the clips and trailers until the digital version of the film becomes available in the second half of next year, because the digital version of films always comes out before the Blu-ray and DVD versions.

Anyway, the next several months will be busier, due to the soon to be released third film. 02:39, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

No date for release digitally or Blu-ray or DVD yet. A bit too early. Typically once gets closer to the end of its run do they make a date known for digital release, and for Blu-ray and DVD. To be honest since Australia is an English speaking country, the film won't be released digitally or on Blu-Ray or DVD there until after the film is no longer in theaters in the US. I would expect that the release date digitally for all languages as well as the Blu-ray and DVD would happen at the same time. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 03:00, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

hello how are you because you do not make a timeline page who was first to exist that passed the years the current one would be great to do it need megora the wikia of Tales of Arcadia would be genal improve it

No I prefer to do my Page intereting through this... But what's the idea beyond Megora? Youngtrainer (talk) 08:59, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Recent image uploads
I think I could crop them accordingly, so that deletion won't be needed. It would be a waste of images if we deleted them.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  14:21, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I can. I will most likely finish until tomorrow.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  14:33, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

which one?

Re: Stat box for Titan Uprising
I can't play the game either, but I use YouTube videos to obtain information about the game. In this case, I think this video would be quite useful. Also, I don't think green is the best color for the template. Dark red or brown would fit it better.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  07:36, December 24, 2018 (UTC)

ladybrasa can I CHANGE and delete some images from Viking 1010 Sports because I don.t like to see the Dreamworks logo and I feel they require the copyrights of the author.... And I want your aproval to change them with other images more better notquality cuz you are also HD BUT WITHOUT THE LOGO THEY LOOK BETTER

Youngtrainer (talk) 13:39, December 24, 2018 (UTC)

Youngtrainer (talk) 16:30, December 24, 2018 (UTC)Medals,Ski Jumping and Speed sKATING

Lady Brasa, Sorry, I thought this was the Fanon. I am going to put them up on the Fanon now. Cheers, Silverphantomtheremix

Well, I was thinking that the stats should be for each individual or group appearing in the game, istead for the species. I already edited the template in conformity with the stats that individuals and groups have. I don't think there's anything we could put in a template on a species page, except for the individauls and groups available in the game and hybrids.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  10:13, December 27, 2018 (UTC)

That sounds fine to me. I think that we should add the section "Distribution" to the infobox too, since the hybrids are found only in certain areas. And I'm more for having a separate section for hybrids in the dragon infobox than having them grouped with the subspecies, which might cause a little confusion.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  06:54, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

I'm fine with adding "Fire type" and "Size" to the infobox, but I don't think it would be necessary to add a "Trainable" section too.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  17:22, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Template Boxes for Titan Uprising
Hi, also sorry about the delayed reply! I am on vacation and thus have little less time to spend on the wiki. Anyway, I am more than willing to help you guys out! Starting with the stat box for TU - I think the template's contents correspond well with the game! However, I feel as though the current color doesn't make the logo 'stand out,' unlike the stat boxes and Creative Commons copyright templates for RoB and SoD. Would it be okay if I try to alter the code to see what other colors are good to pair it with? Also, I can start working on the transparent icons and perhaps have them up after the new year.

As for the hybrid infobox - since we will be using the subspecies infobox, I don't mind if Template:Dragon Hybrid Infobox gets deleted. I knew about the subspecies template way back but forgot about it while I was setting up the hybrid infobox for the Deathly Galeslash page. Also, I think we should add (1) a "Fire Type" section to the infobox since from what I've noticed, the hybrids have their 'own' type of fire, and (2) just for the sake of consistency, add a "Size" and a "Trainability" section to the infobox too, like the dragon infobox - though if you think this second suggestion is unnecessary, I am fine with that.

04:16, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

I went with your green color suggestion for Template:TUStats - if you have a moment, would you mind taking a look at it? By the way, do you think we should seek The Woolly Howl's opinion, too? If I remember correctly, she was heavily involved with the wiki's design, layouts, and such; she might have an idea of choosing the right color for the template.

Also, thank you for your input regarding adding the "Size" and "Trainability" stats to the subspecies infobox. I see your point and will lean toward it. Aside from that, I also finished working on some of the necessary icons for TU - please see User:ClodaghelmC / Sandbox to view them. If you think something is missing, feel free to let me know.

Thanks! 03:48, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

In my opinion, the logo already compliments the red tabs. However, if that's still the case, I could copy and paste the template's code into my sandbox so I can try other shades of red without spamming the page's history.

Good idea about adding the relevant icon on the right-side boxes for each dragon! However, I feel as though putting the gems on the "Location" section is more appropriate than putting them on "Fire Type" since the gems indicate a dragon's habitat:
 * Blue: Frozen Tundra
 * Gold: Wild Woodlands
 * Green: Berk Forest
 * Purple: Mysterious Marshlands
 * Red: Burning Barrens

By the way, I don't think we need to include "(at Level 1)" with "Attack," "Defense," and "Health" - a while back, I experimented with the game and found out that there is a way to view an individual's maximum stats: In the Draft screen, holding the card at the bottom-left corner for a few seconds opens a window of the individual's stats. Having noticed that there is a large number gap between the Merciful Nightmare's stats from the template and this screenshot, I for one believe they are the maximum stats. Of course, I could certainly be wrong.

05:25, January 8, 2019 (UTC)

Re:A Few Questions/Comments About Galleries/Images
For the galleries, I always add ==Gallery--, because it is important to at least have a section set up for the pictures. Now I feel that calling it screenshots is better than just calling it gallery. For me it looks better to separate the templates from the actual pictures. Though maybe we should take a vote to see what others think about what you said about a section by default being put on a gallery page, basically whether they think we should do that or not. In terms of episode and movie titles in image captions, those should follow the same rules as when episode titles appear within information on regular pages. In terms of a user uploading a new image of a image already uploaded when the image that was uploaded was already HD is annoying. I rather my pictures NOT be touched by other users since I always upload HD pictures. I do think it will get worse when the third film comes out, so I am planning on creating a blog either today or tomorrow to explain what rules we want users to follow once the third film is out. Particularly, I want to remind people to hide spoilers under the template, and how to do that include the use of the. I want to make sure spoilers are handled properly so people who don't want to see them, won't see them if they don't want to. Of course, I would recommend those who want to avoid spoilers to avoid the wiki until they see the third film since it will be pretty hard to avoid seeing spoilers on the wiki once they start being added to the wiki later this week. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 16:57, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

I do see what you are talking about. I know you put the pictures you uploaded on your profile page before putting them on the pages they belong. I do agree that it is annoying when a user adds a picture or pictures that you uploaded to a page it belongs to before you do so. I do feel that can mess up the person who uploaded the pictures to the wiki because then they have to make sure a picture they uploaded to the wiki isn't put onto the same page or gallery or second time. I feel that the user who uploaded the picture should always be the one to put it on the gallery pages and other pages that it belongs on, and not someone else.

About the ==screenshots== headers on top, I think that it is needed on gallery pages with multiple sections. Also, having pictures put into a section with the heading above allows for when the need for a separate section for pictures from the same episode or film, but are a little different, say gifs, or production shots, and helps since having sections makes there be a table of contents, though for those pages with few sections, which only appears with enough sections, although I discovered the other day that we can tell the page to add a table of contents no matter the number of sections. I was saying we would ask all users, and not just the other staff about this. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 21:09, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

Re: New Pages ...
I think I can make them look at least decent. Even if the pages are deleted, they will be created again at some point, since they are canon pages.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  07:02, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

Titan Uprising Unlocked
Good news! Titan Uprising has become available in my country! I don't for how long it has been going on, as last time when I checked (2 week ago, I think) it was still unavailable. And apparently, it's easier to play than I expected, as I progress very fast (already reached the Foreverwing level in less than an hour of playing). This means that now I will be able to provide information too for the stats template and other things. I just felt that you should know this.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  08:43, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

When it comes to the infoboxes, the hide spoiler template can be used in there. In terms of page creation of pages that are obviously spoilerific, I do think it is hard to tell users to not create a new page for a character or something from the third film, and thus it probably is best to keep those pages, and make sure they are marked as having spoilers on them. Of course, I do think the staff should discuss whether or not we should allow users to add new pages that will of course be very spoilerific, and if we do decide to do allow it, how to moderate it. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 02:58, January 4, 2019 (UTC)

I can take a look into that in the morning. It is almost midnight here, so I don't have time to do it right now. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 04:58, January 4, 2019 (UTC)

Re: RR and Twitter
Hi Lady,

The holidays are so intensely crazy for me I know I've fallen out of touch with some things, so I apologise to you and Tauriel if it felt like I was aloof at all. 💗 But things are finally starting to calm down so I can settle back into my normal routine, which allows both time and energy again to be more active.

About RR, yeah it's been quiet as far as new info the last few months. The last activity I noticed regarding the series was around October 24. That was the expiration for the trademarks if they didn't finish the registration. But the date came and went, and they're all still live! After doing some investigating, I learned that they filed for an extension. The new expiration date is January 24, which is of course coming up. I'm still checking the status of that pretty much every day. With the new expiration date coming up I'm really hoping, and almost expecting, it to become official within the next few weeks. With the holiday madness I'll admit I've slacked on checking in on the suspected voice actors' Instagram accounts for any new hints.

And about Twitter, that's scary, I'm sorry that's happening to you, especially being new there. 😞 I haven't had that happen to me on Twitter yet, but it's happened to me on Facebook a number of times. As long as I'm sure I'm doing so through the official website or app, NOT a phishing site, I've had to reset my password and go through additional steps to prove I am who I say I am. After going through all that, there's been a few times as a precaution that my Facebook account was also restricted from posting, commenting, or reacting for 24 hours. But afterwards everything is back to normal. I'm not sure what Twitter will do, but I'm sure it'll be something similar to Facebook's precautionary measures. My Pintrest was hacked once by someone in Europe. They apparently managed to guess my password. That was scary. But after going through their privacy and safety steps I got that working again, too. So it does happen. Try not to worry about it, and just follow the directions to get back in Twitter. If it's any comfort, I haven't seen any weird behavior from your account over there. Twitter might just be nit picking over something that's actually not suspicious.

Hope you're able to get back in. A lot of fun Ness breaks on Twitter, and it can be a lot of fun for a Dragonite! 😊

--🍀 ~ 07:17, January 4, 2019 (UTC)

I can find the Spoiler template and post it on pages, but there's not really anything we can do with spoiling titles.--

Re: Spoiler pages and Staff Discussions
I'm really conflicted on spoilers. Not for myself personally because I think I've been spoiled to the max already (as I was expecting to, had accepted, and was prepared for). But there is such a toxic uproar in the fandom over them. However, truth be told, we are the English wiki, servicing every English speaking country, not just the U.S. I think Aussies and Kiwis have a right to want to update the wiki according to their authorized new knowledge. And we should appreciate their help. As staff, we shouldn't jump the gun and create pages before they're needed, but if someone who has seen the film creates one, I really think we should allow it. It would have to be created eventually anyway. It might work to have the entire page hidden behind a Spoiler Button if they're highly spoilery. We could also limit its publicity by not linking to it on other articles or in related templates until later, so that's an option.

And about a Staff Discussions thread, we only have 10 available categories so right now there isn't room for more, unless we combined two like maybe Riders and Defenders (since they're the same series anyway). I'm curious about the forums actually. I know you're active on forums elsewhere, as am I, and I've seen sub-forums that are only accessible to certain users, in this case it could be the staff. I have a lot of access to stuff over there like I do in Discussions, so I'll see if I can create a sub-forum that is only accessible to those of us who are staff. If I can't maybe an admin or at least Annabeth can. If that doesn't work though, a sub-forum or Discussion thread, though accessible to everyone, would still work. We just might have to deal with other users butting in which might get annoying depending on the situation.

I'll let you know about the sub-forum thing if I can figure it out.

--🍀 ~ 03:18, January 5, 2019 (UTC)

Ok, well, I created a new sub-forum. Can't find a way to edit who can post in it, but again maybe an admin can do that. Once we all comment on or follow a thread, we'll get a notification when there's a new post, similar to Discussions notifications. Hopefully this will work. 😊

--🍀 ~ 03:31, January 5, 2019 (UTC)

Re:FYI ...:
Thanks for letting me know. Thanks for deleting the images. It never ceases to amaze that people break the movie theater rules, as in no recording of the film and no taking pictures as the big ones. It is disrespectful to Universal and DreamWorks, and a copyright violation for pictures as they were illegally taken, and piracy for those who record the film and post it online. I would be for movie theaters to not allow people to take their cell phones or anything that can take pictures or record something into the theaters. For this user you mentioned to me, who uploaded illegally taken photos from a movie theater, we can't just let it slide with just a warning, as what the user has done violates Fandom's Terms of Use. For reference here is the link to the terms of use. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 03:41, January 5, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Thoughts on Spoilers
I don't think that not having the pages is a good option. Users will keep on creating them, and to delete them means to see the spoilers. I think that the spoiler templates are our only options right now.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  07:17, January 5, 2019 (UTC)

Like Tauriel said, the pages will be created and spoiler templates are our best option. However, I am someone who has been fortunate enough to see the movie (lets just say I got an early birthday surprise from my fiancé ❤️) so I already know everything. --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 20:17, January 5, 2019 (UTC)

The stat box looks nice! However, it will be hard to complete it since the game doesn't show you the stats of the dragons at max level like Rise of Berk does, and it takes a long while to train a dragon to the max level. I hope that in the future there will be a way to know the dragons' stats before training them.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  17:40, January 6, 2019 (UTC)

Images
Can you tel how can I upload more images at once and put where it should be more easily? Cuz my ways are old fashioned AND I SEE YOU THEM whenever you want... I just need some new tricks,so be my guest!Youngtrainer (talk) 17:54, January 6, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Discussion Moderation Needed ...
I'm sorry, but I can't do anything about the Discussions. Only Dublyn can.

As for Titan Uprising... Training dragons is more complicated than it appears. Depending on the number stars they have, dragons have different amounts of levels because each star means 30 levels. So it's basically like this: 1 star dragon - 30 levels, 2 star dragon - 60 levels, 3 star dragon - 90 levels, 4 star dragon 120 levels and 5 star dragon - 150. In order to train a dragon, you have to release other dragons, up to 10. It takes two 1 star dragons to train it 1 level, or a 2 star dragon. Each time a dragon reaches level 30, it will require a different type of training (with scales instead of dragons) to be trained to another star. Afterwards, the dragon will go back to level 1. A dragon is at maximum level when it has all the stars and is at level 30, which requires lots of time and resources. Fortunately, however, the training is instantly, and you can level up a dragon more time consequently. It's hard to explain this, but you'll get it once you'll play the game.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  08:57, January 7, 2019 (UTC)

Well, I'm not sure about renders. Except for Deadly Nadders and Gronckles, all the dragons in the game are too big for the entire body to be seen on the screen. Just look at Gloomleer or Wild Wraith, for example. But, if you want to do it, I won't stop you.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  15:42, January 7, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Possibly my First Discussion Post ...
That's fine. Heads up, though, some of "my kids" in Discussions can be a bit trollish when they don't understand a post. And it looks like you got one of them commenting on your post already. 😛 I directed Dragoonroot's attention to it in his environment concept post from last month (you may have seen that already). I see he's actually doing some editing to the TU pages today. He or Hammish may not check in every day though, much less check the Discussion Boards every day, so chances are your post would have fallen off the front page and into oblivion in a day out two, and neither of them would have ever seen it. I hope you get the answer you're looking for. 😊

Also, congratulations on your first Discussion post! 😀

And just to give you an idea of how I've been managing the Boards, I try to sleep 8 hours every day, but try to check in every few hours when I'm awake. I don't always make my presence known, but I'm here, forever watching. And I check the boards before I check the wiki (i.e., if I have any Terror Mail). I've always been somewhat amused with Terror Mails alerting me to something in Discussions when I already took care of the problem before I even saw the the message. 😉 So I'm the one who deleted that comment to an illegal video yesterday. I saw it initially, but it looked like a link to one of the mini trailers so I ignored it. But seeing you reported it, I clicked through and, well, you know the rest. I'll have to keep a closer eye on that type of thing.

I just learned a new spoiler this morning that I had previously only known a portion of. And I loved it so much it's got me feeling giddy for the last few hours! Spoilers don't have to be a bad thing if we don't let them be. Oooh I look forward to seeing that scene, and later the screen shots of that scene! 💗

--🍀 ~ 21:58, January 7, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Species Stats ...
That doesn't sound like a bad idea, but as I recall there aren't too many dragons whose stats would show large discrepancy. Though it would definitely be useful to somehow display how they were altered over time. Unfortunately, it seems this week will be a little busy for me, but if you give me a few days to check through the media, I'll try to collect the stats, and then I'll let you know what I found.

Until then, you should probably discuss it with the other admins, if they would like to make it happen. If yes, I'm certainly willing to help. Thorndrum (  talk  )

Okay, so I think I've collected most of the stats. I found 11 dragons whose stats changed over the years, 13 if you count misclassifications. Sources of stats (so far): Ultimate Book of Dragons (2011), Wild Skies (2012), Cartoon Network: Dragon Secrets (c. 2012), Dragonpedia (2014), Guide to the Dragons (2014-15), To Berk and Beyond! (2015) and the Dragonpedia Stat Cards (2019). I may later try to help with the template, but I'm not too good at coding. Thorndrum (  talk  )

I messed around a little using the code from your Sandbox, and I tried to place together a template for the stats. You can see it here. I tried to make it have tabbers and be collapsible, but it still needs a lot of refining. The only problem is that there would be a lot of empty space as no dragon appears in all 7 sources.

The Stat Cards are from here: https://www.cineworld.co.uk/blog/how-to-train-your-dragon-hidden-world-collectible-cards-dragonpedia Thorndrum (  talk  )

The Ultimate Book of Dragons was a Blu-ray feature released together with the Gift of the Night Fury. As far as I know, there are no videos of it anywhere, and hardly anything can be found about it. There are a few screenshots here: http://howtotrainyourdragon.proboards.com/thread/960?page=88#43521. The first template looks good, but I'm not sure if SoD should be included. Hmm, it seems I'll have to collect the sizes too...

About the CN thing, I can't even visit the page. It redirects to my country's version. Sad. Thorndrum (  talk  )

Re: Stat box/table for some species ...
I'm fine with it.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  06:29, January 8, 2019 (UTC)

Reporting and the Spoiler statement
Hi Lady!

About reporting posts in Discussions- yes, please still report them if you come across anything that shouldn't be there. Unfortunately we (the admins and I) don't get a notification alerting us that something has been reported; we have to go to Discussions and click a button in the admin menu to reveal any reported material (WHY, FANDOM?? THIS MAKES NO SENSE!!) but if we scroll down the the bottom of any Wiki article where we can see a preview of the Discussion Boards (and chat room, among other things), reported posts will be tagged in that preview. Seeing that will let us know we need to go to the boards and take care of it. And if it's a comment that needs to be taken care of, more often than not we're not going to see it for while, if at all, unless it's reported. So reporting both posts and comments is still crucial in keeping things in order over there. TMing someone, anyone, about it will alert whoever sees the TM first, too. So yes, go ahead and continue to report, and if it's urgent you can also TM someone about it. 😊

About the spoiler statement that the user who was in an editing war with you kept putting on Toothless' page... yes, it's true actually. I asked that he be blocked only because he was was somewhat defiant in undoing your, a member of staff's, edits; with no explanation or compliance. Sounds like you haven't been spoiled as much as I have yet, haha. I hope you're able to remain unspoiled enough to still enjoy the movie with your own eyes. I know pretty much all the plot details and surprises, but I refuse to watch any of the illegal videos since I do still have control over whether I hit the "play" button, so most of the dialogue and scenes taking place in between the pivotal scenes should remain unspoiled for me at least. But I will love this movie to the moon and back no matter how much I unintentionally learn. 💗💕 It really is sounding amazing!

Have a good day at work! Much love to the animals! One of the dogs at mine was just diagnosed with Kennel Cough this morning... joy. 😧 Hope your place is faring better than mine.

--🍀 ~ 18:32, January 10, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Various Questions and Comments
1. I don't know how this happened, but I was under the impression that abilities were shown using a list format, since I saw several pages having them that way, for example Astrid Hofferson and Toothless. I don't mind keeping them without the list format. I will try to check all the character pages with the "Abilities" section, and if there are more pages with the list format than without it, I guess we can update the article standard page.

2. Good idea, but I think that "Contains spoiler information" is a bit too long. Just "Spoilers" would be enough.

3. Yes, I was thinking the same way, but I was waiting for the film to be released in my country first, so I know exactly which images are just from the trailers. I don't mean that I don't trust the others, I just want to be sure that they didn't miss a scene or two, since it happens for me a lot.

4. Oh, I didn't know that. Well then, I guess I can start adding the templates to the pages.

5. Both look fine to me. I guess we should ask Hiccstrid and Annabeth for their opinions too.

6. I was thinking about listing them that way too. I can't think of any other way we could list them.

7. Don't worry, I'm active daily. You can ask those things whenever you remember them. 😊

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  08:14, January 13, 2019 (UTC)