User talk:Lightning the Skrill

Because until you edit the talk pages, they do not exist, so by me saying something on your talk page, it creates it!Leaving no details out. Baricuda (talk) 15:16, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Welcome
Hi, welcome to ! Thanks for your edit to the User talk:Toothless the Nightfury page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! Baricuda (talk) 10:35, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Dragon root
Dragons go insane over it and can't control themselves.. That's a weakness. Valka is waiting for me! Thecloudjumperdragon (talk) 04:41, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

Not really, a weakness means that you can use it against them, in this case dragons. You cannot use dragon root against dragons. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 4:51, June 17 2014 (UTC)

Yea, throw it and they will go after it and you can escape quickly... Also, throw it on another dragon and it will be chasing the other dragon around, not you. Plus, the dragon doesn't listen when you give it to them.. Valka is waiting for me! Thecloudjumperdragon (talk) 14:48, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

How does the dragon root affect the screaming death being a boulder class dragon. Is it being a mutation dragon.

But I doubt the dragon root cause a affect. I think it saw Meatlug and Fishlegs in the open and just try to eat them. The jaws were just enough to fit both of them. Should we say on the triva for both that they were the first characters very close to got eaten by wild dragon What about this part (FireTerryTiger (talk) 04:06, December 26, 2014 (UTC))

I don't know, it never said that dragon root doesn't affect ALL Boulder class dragons. Maybe maybe not. But I'm sure it causes an addiction, maybe like drugs, maybe. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 1:35, December 26, 2014 (UTC)

Oh maybe it was mistake they editors didn't think about it Meatlug was fine (FireTerryTiger (talk) 06:06, December 26, 2014 (UTC))

Skrill
OK, I don't entirely agree with all that you've put for the Skrill, but I can see why you did that. However, the speed isn't JUST 19, it's 11 when not riding lightning. That's what dragonpedia says. I had removed the other weaknesses because they weren't explicitly shown to be weaknesses of the Skrill, and they're more a dragon-weakness than a Skrill-weakness. Dragon Book (talk) 12:54, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

The Bewilderbeast controls all dragons exept Red Deaths. All dragons are afraid of eels except the Bewilderbeast, Red Death, and Screaming Death and Typhoomerang. And dragon nip affects pretty much all dragons. See what I mean. And the Skrill is also the second fastest dragon after the Night Fury. The Skrill could outrun and keep up with Toothless if you watch the episodes, Stormfly could keep up with the Skrill because she ate chicken a lot. Besides the Skrill wasn't using lightning when it was flying away from Toothless and Stormfly. I hope that answers everything.Lightning the Skrill (talk) June 18, 1:43, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe, but the episodes tend to have errors. The website says the speed is 11/19. You don't know weather or not the Seashocker is afraid of eels, it probably isn't. And exactly! See, things like than, and Dragon Root, should be dragon-weaknesses, not species-weaknesses. "The Skrill has one weakness…" Dragon Book (talk) 15:04, June 18, 2014 (UTC)

I have undone your edit to the filghtmare page bacause that flightmare has no kind of fire at all.

 Rider ranger47   My HTTYD fanfics 14:06, September 28, 2014 (UTC)

Skrill has weakness water. If fell in the water its vulnerable. That's how Alvin caught it by the net. That what Fishlegs saids. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 04:11, December 26, 2014 (UTC))

I know that. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 12:45, December 26, 2014 (UTC)

skrill
Hi lightning! I was just wanting to show u this artical and picture that proves the skrill will be in school of dragons. []  Shoxskrill (talk) 01:41, June 20, 2014 (UTC)

Wow, thank you, I really hope that it would turn out that way!:) Lightning the Skrill (talk) 11:20, June 21, 2014 (UTC)

Red Death Image
Hi, thank you very much for daily edits and I really appreciate! I'm sorry to change the profile image of the Red Death, but I personaly think a closed-up image of face seems more appropriate and thus I did change. Again, sorry and thank you. Best Regards. DreamBrisdin (talk) 14:22, June 21, 2014 (UTC)

Skrill
are sure its 28 ftlong looks like 30ftGian94 (talk) 04:50, July 2, 2014 (UTC)

Ok I'm not 100 percent sure but the Skrill sizes up to Toothless pretty well and is you estimate it, it would be around 28-29 feet because Toothless, also Night Furies are 26-27 feet. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 7:37, July 2, 2014 (UTC)

Shots
I am watch httyd 2,and calculat 12 shot toothless

After 6 shots he fired 2 quickly, than after some time the other 4, he reloded his shots. And again, Please add a new headline in a new section....Lightning the Skrill (talk) 10:17, July 22, 2014 (UTC)

Hidden Ability
The deflecting Plamsa Blast of his the skrill wings is not hidden ability because Hiccup and Toothless didn't know it could do that. Which was awesome. That will be hidden ability wouldn't it.

Which part of the show did it demonstrate that? Was it when the Skrill was controlled by Dagur? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 10:43, December 23, 2014 (UTC)

Both epsodes shown it It's was so cool Its has to be hidden ability. Hiccup and toothless were suprise it can do that

(FireTerryTiger (talk) 03:12, December 23, 2014 (UTC))

I need to know which part please.Lightning the Skrill (talk) 10:59, December 23, 2014 (UTC)

In first epsode shown it first then the second part show it more in the end. When it was controlled by dager Didn't you saw this epsodes (FireTerryTiger (talk) 16:35, December 23, 2014 (UTC))

Another ability of immunty not sure its real quite possible not Their is photo of vicking feeding eels to a skrill but According to Fishlegs most dragons never ears eels accept for Typhoomberangs. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 16:58, December 23, 2014 (UTC))

I watched it many times, but WHEN did it show in the FIRST EPISODE, when Dagur controlled the Skrill, Toothless' blast was VERY weak, not designed for bringing down anything. The plasma blast was 2/10 power. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 10:15, December 24, 2014 (UTC)

In the second part he did it again showing to reflecting it. So it must be ability because I was just watch it right showing it

Copy and paste this please "Defenders of Berk: Shocking Defeat | Dreamworks Dragons | Cartoon Network"

(FireTerryTiger (talk) 02:25, December 24, 2014 (UTC))

Hidden abilities That Grouncles have the most few hidden abilities that immunity to dragon root, able to shoot out those bumps, and making new fire for creating weapons. What the next hidden ability lol

For nightmare hidden ability the wing blast is so powerful so awesome I always new has that ability. I think their another hidden ability that they can shoot out fire slicers as using fire jacket that can shoot from wings to attack.

It's not hidden ability, it's just an ability because we already know the ability. Reflecting a blast is not an ability. Nearly every long winged dragon can do it, if a blas is weak, it was shown in the episode as I mentioned earlier. I coudn't play the video, just does not work, will try again. Please know HIDDEN. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 12:50, December 24, 2014 (UTC)

Nightmare hidden ability is not Wait what

So this wingblast is actual a ability It took so long to know and hookfang didn't know it could do that or other nightmares neber shown it So what is that actually of this ability Why does the monstrous nightmare page saids hidden ability

The single spine shot is not hidden ability its a skill

""Hidden abilities That Grouncles have the most few hidden abilities that immunity to dragon root, able to shoot out those bumps, and making new fire for creating weapons. What the next hidden ability lol""" (FireTerryTiger (talk) 04:57, December 24, 2014 (UTC))

I was talking about the SKRILL and GRONKLE. It is true, like you said that if the dragon itself does know it than it woruld or might be a hidden ability. Hookfang's and Monstrous Nightmare's hidden ability is the wing blast, Toothless' and Night Furies' hidden ability is the open spikes and the alpha form of blue fire. its because the dragon doesnt know that, you were right on that, but i'm talking about the Skrill. Wing whatever is not an HIDDEN ability, possibly not an ability at all. Confirm. What part??? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 1:12, December 24, 2014 (UTC)

Wait what I confuse These are my questions 1. monstrous nightmare have hidden ability the wing blast yes or no

2.Night fury The echolation of Nightfury is not hidden ability because Hiccup didn't know that

The spilt spines was a secret hidden ability that what I remember the picture of toothless before the 2nd movie came explains the sizes and abilities

3.Grounckles Hidden abilities That Grouncles have the most few hidden abilities that immunity to dragon root, able to shoot out those bumps, and making new fire for creating weapons. What the next hidden ability yes or no

4.Skrill So the inner body tempeture is hidden ability which I'm not sure anymore because how did Fishlegs know that to explain to his friends. Wings reflector of Plamsa blast seems more of hidden ability

5.Deadly Nadder Single spine shot is a skill correct

The chicken diet to enchance speed is hidden ability

The ability of their sense of smell can't be hidden ability also which this so stupid If their scence of smell is so strong they wouldn't have blind spot because though their eyes are on the sides but their noise should be able to tell their enemy front of them. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 06:00, December 24, 2014 (UTC))

1. Yes 2. Yes true 3. Those are not HIDDEN abilities, they are not really abilities, except the bumps one. 4. Yes the inner temp is not a HIDDEN ability, but the wing reflector is NOT a ability. It was never proven strong or really reflecting the blast. 5. Single spine shot, on that you are right. But chicken diet is NOT a HIDDEN ability because the dragon knew it, she wanted to eat it. Sense of smell is not hidden, yes you are right on that. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 2:06, December 24, 2014 (UTC)

Wait 1-3 are confusing can u explain more

1. monstrous nightmare have hidden ability the wing blast yes or no

2.Nightfury Echolocation is hidden ability or not

The spilt fins are secert hidden ability

3.grounckel Bumps are hidden ability Immunity of dragon root of rock diet and creating Grounckle irion not hidden ability because are differ rocks They didn't know that even though Fishlegs is boulder class expert (FireTerryTiger (talk) 06:38, December 24, 2014 (UTC))

Sorry, I coudn't connect to the Internet. Anyways, 1.YES

2.Echolocation is NOT a hidden ability. Split spikes IS a hidden ability.

3. Bumps IS a hidden ability. The OTHERS ARE NOT. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 9:23, December 24, 2014 (UTC)

What about this for Nightmares if they put their talons into the ground they shown to have Vibration Decatur like some dinosaur experts believe that trex can feel the ground of vibrations of another dinosaurs. So let's say Hookfang puts his talons into the ground or cave he can sense that things that are going to be destroy like fallen rocks or earthquakes in time to escape. Is this a ability since hookfang know about this. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 14:33, December 24, 2014 (UTC))

Did Hookfang demonstrate this, where, which episode?? I don't think he did this. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 11:04, December 24, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to get you scare but I was just saying that Nightmare could do that.

It will be awesome though

Alvin is riding on the neck he was holding on hookfang horns if you look closer. I just watched (FireTerryTiger (talk) 15:31, December 24, 2014 (UTC))

Chicken diet for Stormfly This diet enhance her speed to be fast or near Toothless Are you sure is not hidden ability because Astrid said she was studying her diet. Stormfly seems to love very munch but possible she didn't know that

So hidden abilities are something dragons don't know

Wait at min Gronkels shoot those bumps that can't be hidden ability then well never shown it but if they sleep then provoke they shoot it all direction that its surrounding the gronkle can't be hidden ability just special ability. Other hidden abilities gronkel iron makeing and dragon root immunty. Are they hidden abilities. Also on the gronkle page said many hidden hidden abilities If you look at it

Zipplebacks flaming wheel not hidden ability then a ability since some of alpha Zipplebacks use these so not hidden ability. Just ability.

Toothless echolocation not hidden ability just making sure that I understand

Thunderdrum blue fire not hidden ability right they must know since this fire is so powerful that they will waist their stamina and make them vulnerable right.

I was wondering what will happen of Valka unleashed Nightmare hidden ability like she did with toothless. Maybe his hidden ability of his fire jack will grow larger and his fire could be hot as the sun but munch larger like spreading. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 15:59, December 24, 2014 (UTC))

Oh, come on. The developers won't make its hidden ability to have fire as hot as the sun. It's already has on 2 dragons, Deady Nadders and Fireworms. You got 1 in a 10thousand on that:D Oh and btw, is the Monstrous Nightmare your favorite dragon? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 9:06, December 26, 2014 (UTC)

Yes monstrous nightmares so no for hidden ability if was unlock by Valka won't be hotter of their fire

Hidden abilities for gronkles is immunty of dragon root, gronkle irion, and bumps shoot (FireTerryTiger (talk) 01:36, December 26, 2014 (UTC))

Abilities
Monstrous nightmare Page is correct I did very best to do the abilities

No one look at it so I'm very nervous that they will deleted

Most of it true

Wild nightmares from the first actual did these showing their strength

Wild nightmare carry hippo that is based on Gloria from Madagascar

Another nightmare Crush with one foot no stuggle to to destroy hiccup invention easily

Hookfang strength shown to be strong enough to wing flap Meatlug and her rider good distance as well in s2 ep 19 part 1

How strong are monstrous nightmares to you I think nightmares are physically stronger then Nightfury but Nightfurys are skilled combat dragon.

As toothless shown to defeat dragons like Nightmares, Grounckles, whispering deaths on his own but others gets help with Hiccup for flying and his Intelligence.

Gronckels strength shown to be at least under 1,000lbs but mostly they have brute strength as dragon like they Meatlug use her weight as Bodyslam on Snoutlout and Toothless. Also slam into Stoick that she able to make him stun for short period and damage to Screaming Death. You have to admit this is true mostly brute strength. And Meatlug couldn't lift heavy objects if she does shown a lot of struggles.

Grounckles tail club do you think its weird looking in the picture of the boulder class looks better.

(FireTerryTiger (talk) 06:51, December 24, 2014 (UTC))

I think you should really improve your English and spelling, I'm sorry to offend you but I can't understand some parts because of your grammar. Yes the Monstrous Nightmare might be stronger than a Night Fury physically but Toothless has shown much stronger strength by pushing 'Hookfang' off his back. The others I can't really understand, sorry. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 8:20, December 24, 2014 (UTC)

For monstrous nightmare page do you mind if you can look at it

I did the page for the abilities can you look to see its ok.

Monstrous nightmare said to be one of strongest so i think they stronger then Nightfury in my theory.

Also I was wondering size of monstrous nightmare post to be 70ft long the film makers said he 61ft long and 68ft wingspan that he weights 5,000lbs. Is he young age that his kind takes long time to grow full adult.

Why are Deadly Nadders aren't in the sharp class anymore they never shown their ability of their sense of smell. I understand Zipplebacks being in the mystery class dragons because of their abilities of stealth and gas.

Typhoomberang speed I still don't think its 20 I believe 18 and Screaming death as well.

Typhoomberang are so strong I think they can lift at least close to 12tons. But I can't be sure I wish they can explain more of their abilities of this show. Like thornado was shown for his kind to be physically stronger then nightfurys able to pull two vickings ships and carry his rider.

Nightmare neck muscle I think can carry over 600-800lbs. If Stoick is really 400 by according to Hiccup and Snoulout looks like he around 150lbs making at least 550lbs on that neck but if we know the weight of Alvin to me he looks heavier then Stoick.

I'm trying my best to contact Chris Sanders so he can explain the dragons more. Like jaw strength that monstrous nightmare and Nightfury are 6 so how strong is that force in lbs? (FireTerryTiger (talk) 14:27, December 24, 2014 (UTC))

Im sorry, PLEASE WAIT, I am having big difficulties because you keep interrupting my edits. PLEASE don't type for a while. If you can't see my respond today, then it will be tomorrow.

I'm going to check that page later, Monstrous Nightmare abilities section right? Anyways, the Monstrous Nightmare is not one of the most stronger dragons, a lot of dragons have been proven more stronger. It might be physically stronger than a Night Fury because it is bigger. The Monstrous Nightmare in my opinion can't be 70 feet, just too big. I don't know, how big are Elephants? You should research it, the dragon can't be more than 20 feet longer because Elephants are huge. In my opinion it can't, but you can ask some admins about this question. Deadly Nadders, idk why they were removed from the sharp class but they have been shown sometimes to track a lot of dragons and people down, of course not as much as a Rumblehorn but is can still track good. For example, when Hiccup and Toothless flew off in HTTYD 2, Stormfly could easily find Hiccup and Toothless for Astrid because she was used to their smell. On the Typhoomerang, I agree with you, I personally don't think that they are speed 20, it's just messed up, idk why.

Oh whoa there, calm down. Do you know how heavy 12 tons are. Even with the massive size I don't think that Typhoomerangs can lift that heavy, maybe close to 9 tons or less. Yes, Monstrous Nightmare's neck is pretty strong, but Alvin wasn't sitting directly on the neck, just a bit behind.

12tons is 24,000lbs lol

Phew, answered all of them. I hope that explained everything. Feel free to ask more, but SLOWLY, haha can't take all that pressure!! Anyways, Merry Christmas, or Snoggletog if you prefer!! :D Lightning the Skrill (talk) 11:00, December 24, 2014 (UTC)

When did i talk about elephants lol? Elephants are around 24ft long, weight 6-7tons, and 10-13ft tall

On the blue ray of HTTYD said monstrous nightmares can reach 69ft meaning 70ft long while Hookfang is 61 which is stupid couldn't they say 62 I don't like odd numbers munch but if they like reach odd numbers like these 15,25,35,45,55,65,75,85,95,105, 115, 125, 135ft long like this I don't mind. Not big fan if its 11, 13,17,19,21,23ft in length either even number or like the numbers like these 25,35,45,65, and 70ft long that's fine. They should said Hoofang is 62 not 61ft. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 15:23, December 24, 2014 (UTC))

These abilities on the dragon pages for classification on different species should put Special Abilities

Special Abilities are things that certain animal or dragon can do

Special Ability Nightmare: Fire Burst and Wing blast

Special ability Changewing: camouflaging and Acid

Special ability Nightfury: Echolocation and Plasma blast

Deadly Nadder: hot as sun for flamethrower and spine shot is special ability

Skrill special ability Electrify control couldn't find the actual word and body tempture control also I still say the reflector plasma blast wings.

Gronckels Special ability are Lava blast, dragon root immunity, making gronkel iron and bump shooter

These are Normal Abilities that all dragons do have in common have strength, speed, climbing, swimmer/aquatic, roar, flying, Acrobatic, roar, stealth, jaw strength, senses, Intelligence,  endurable, and stamina

Also the kind of rumblehorn abilities on his page of classification

Charging its horns and tail cluab should not be on it. Other dragons can do that a well. Like Gronckels have horn and tail cluab. Like nightmares have tail that is cluab like.

Also hunting is it ability or skill I wasn't sure to me its ability. Most Dragons do eat meat, fish, and certain bolder class dragon rocks. Monstrous nightmare can swallow a vicking hole that so cool like snake. Changewings hunt as lions pride or mostly wolves according to hiccup.

Look, special ability is a different kind of ability, you can't just change the page. Most of those you mentioned were abilities. Special is also unique, the dragon doesn't know of it yet. They are just abilities, besides, their firepower should not be classified as ability because most dragons have them, shouldn't be put on a species page unless it is very unique. They are not SPECIAL abilities. And what you said in the beginning of the sentence, is wrong. Even ability doesn't match up to that. It could be skill, ability, movement, senses or anything, but they are not special ability. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 8:35, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

1. Question on abilities

What about rumblehorn abilities on that info page They said abilities tail cluab and charging horns that's shouldn't be their other dragons can do those as well.

Gronkel abilitiy of the shoot bumbpers out of their body shouldn't be hidden. Gronckels possible know this. The hidden ability to me is the gronkel irion lava. That's mine theory.

Nadder chickend diet is hidden ability

Skrill inner body tempture normal ability

Nightmare wingblast a hidden ability and what do you think could be another hidden ability can they have I think realsing fire slicers just like the toy they have.

Nightfury split fins is hidden ability

Zipplebacks flaming wheel not hidden ability because alpha Zipplebacks are able to use this

Thunderdrum blue fire ball a normal ability

Terrors singing normal ability

2. Monstrous nightmare vs Nightfury on their strength

Nightmares are some of the strongest dragons possible of medium size dragons.

I think nightmare can lift up 3-5tons Hookfang was able to grab toothless weight in his mouth to throw him off his chest in Vicking for Hire when they were fighting.

Nightfury can lift 3-4tons Toothless was able to stop angry Barf&Belch that weights around 3tons

(FireTerryTiger (talk) 02:51, December 25, 2014 (UTC))

You have to conform the ability and anything else. You CANNOT put un cannon information on the wiki. You can't say or THINK that Toothless is how many pounds. They have to be CANNON info. Please talk to the admins. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 6:22, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

As it is quick to anger, the Monstrous Nightmare can be counted on to be the first to arrive and the last to leave in a fight. Should this be in the combat ability describing their fighting

Chris Sanders
I'm trying to contact this guy He the owner of the tv show, and the movies

I'm trying to ask him questions Like he needs to explain more of the dragon abilities, sizes, and the skills that dragons have learn didn't use munch in the second film. I was hoping to the fighting skills of Meatlug to use in battle. Like the gale force gronkle mostly.

If I do you have any questions for him if I get to talk to him.

Take this numbers as well I was given

This is dane stonger he the artist of the show (941) 928-4888

I have him idea of episode he thought it was fun So he going to give to the network if they can make it He nice try to call him he can help out Don't tell him u got it from me He can help Just give him phone call or text

Dream works (818) 695-5000 Ask for chris sanders try to convince them

I did my best I bet you can

At least try you never known (FireTerryTiger (talk) 19:17, December 24, 2014 (UTC))

Hold on, where does he live, where do you live, what country?? Lightning the Skrill(talk) 8:38, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

I'm in new york

Did you try to call chris sanders Just get to the meachine to leave voice mail Tell them what you think its wroung

I was asking about the sizes and abilities to them

Please give them a call More then one person can help out

Please they going to mess up please Give it try (FireTerryTiger (talk) 03:12, December 25, 2014 (UTC))

Merry Christmas! First of all FireTerryTiger, is English your main language? It would help if you told us what your first language is if it is not English.Taking life very seriously, StaticTheSkrill (talk) 12:17, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

Yea, Merry Christmas too!! He said he is from New York, it should be english but I dont know, his English is not so good :( I dont live in an english country, actually i live in Hong Kong, but my first language is english. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 10:13, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

Sup, I hope I'm not disturbing you guys but I just wanted to say that he got speech problems. He said that to me in my talk page. Anyways, merry christmas to you all! A Huge HTTYD Fan: OVERPOWERED99 (talk) 16:40, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

Merry christmas to both of you (FireTerryTiger (talk) 17:32, December 25, 2014 (UTC))

Did you try to call (FireTerryTiger (talk) 01:08, December 27, 2014 (UTC))

I'm sorry, I can't call, I'm not in the United States. I can't call.Lightning the Skrill (talk) 10:37, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

Do you know administer that lives in United States?

More then one person can help out of the show. We have to contact him He needs to explain dragon growths like why did wispering deaths grow so fast just under few epsodes and torch took at least somewhere under 1-2 season so fast. Animals grow up 2-4yrs. Toothless grow bigger as well as he 20yrs old possible grown full size adult. Dosent make sence. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 03:17, December 27, 2014 (UTC))

We cannot force him to give you some answers you just want. We don't have to contact him. Why does he have to explain? Because people just want logic. Why can't you just find answers from your self that actually make sence? The Whispering Deaths have their own biology. They are not real ok. All dragons have their own nature. It's like your saying that animals cannot breathe flames. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 12:16, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

Why can't they just simply explain the reason dragons growth? Look at toothless a Nightfury that is the same age as hiccup. It took possible years like 6. He could be 14 in the first film then 15yrs old tv series and next movie 5yrs later 20. Torch was baby who grow under 1-2season. Wispering death could be on of the fastest growth of dragons. This what I mean they should explain. They couldn't they dragons grow munch faster then any animal or human that you could imagine. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 04:33, December 27, 2014 (UTC))

I don't know why they don't explain but the dragons are a imagination, not real. But if they were, they are different animals. Different kind, different species of different animals. They are DIFFERENT. The producers want to make the show release quicker and make the show more realistic. But that combination is IMPOSSIBLE when the HAVE TO STICK TO THE MOVIE LINE. They cannot make Hiccup 18 in tunnel vision when he is 15 or 16 in Live and let fly.Lightning the Skrill (talk) 12:42, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

Sizes
Think about Meatlug is female of her kind that weights 5,724lbs now think about a male will be heavier bit bigger like reaching 3tons. Like animals of today's most males are larger then females and gronkles are like the rhinos of their world. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 02:44, December 31, 2014 (UTC))

Dude, you don't know. Maybe Gronckles are not like Rhinos. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 5:07, January 1, 2015 (UTC)

Strength
Alvin and Stoick possible share the same strength or maybe Alvin tiny bit stronger. He was able to throw Nadder that Stormfly weight is over 1ton that he was able to throw it and single punch to make female gronkle stun. So Alvin strength could be near 2,000-2,500lbs for my threoy. Maybe Stoick will be 1,500-2,000lbs. The reason Stoick one could his skills of fighter is munch higher. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 02:52, December 31, 2014 (UTC))

These guys are supernatural awesome I love Alvin becoming good guy.

You know what I hoping for the third and Fourth season

Alvin will sacrifice his life to save Stoick from a war or battle. That Alvin will possible have his men on outcast island and Berkserks possible he has them defeating Dagger. Maybe Dagger is a servant to Alvin lol and Savage. That will make Mildew his second in command. And he still possible have the Whispering Death on his side. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 02:58, December 31, 2014 (UTC))

FireTerryTiger, we don't need to be specific about everything. Making it simpler will make it easier to read the informations on the wiki. Anyways, not everyone uses or knows about the LBS measurement (like me).  OVERPOWERED99 |  HTTYD Wiki  |  Let's Talk!  |  I Contribute!  |  Read My Blogs!  | 09:40, 31-12-2014

Adminster
Do you know anyone that can help me

Like the best I can chat with if you don't mind (FireTerryTiger (talk) 07:02, January 2, 2015 (UTC))

Toothless the Nightfury, I guess. But don't bug people, PLEASE. I don't want to get blamed. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 4:07, January 2, 2015 (UTC)

HOW COOL!!!
Fantastic! I LOVE that picture of you with real life Toothless! MAN. I am sooooo jealous! I'd love to have gotten to do that! Kudos for getting a picture! I'm so happy for you!Toothless the Nightfury (talk) 22:46, January 3, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks ALOT man!!! Lightning the Skrill (talk) 9:22, January 4, 2015 (UTC)

Hey can u check on the monstrous nightmare page (FireTerryTiger (talk) 07:22, January 4, 2015 (UTC))

Thanks for checking what did u fix exactly I didn't see any changes in my phone What do u mean cannon I the did.

I saw the picture looks so real. Where did you see toothless?

Stoick being Dragon Slayer
He used to be dragon slayer shouldn't we put that information as Skills. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 16:18, January 4, 2015 (UTC))

I'm not gonna clean up your mess again Gian, but I would like to say that can already be described in Strenght. Megadracosaurus (talk) 17:03, January 4, 2015 (UTC)

True in his strength but this Dragon Slayer we could say like mildew page

Stoick used to kill dragons in his past until his son change his opion about that they were mostly being force by their queen

How is Mildew a Dragon Slayer!? Besides, it can be just in Strenght. Just put he's strong enough to kill Dragons. Besides, most Vikings (With the exception of Valka and the Teens) used to slay Dragons. So, Stoick killing Dragons isn't really that special, at least not so special to put an entire section for it. Heck, even Hiccup killed a Dragon with Toothless' help. Megadracosaurus (talk) 17:13, January 4, 2015 (UTC)

Ok, literally everyone on Berk were dragon slayers, before Hiccup bonded with Toothless, well excluding Valka. That does include Mildew, but it's not suppose to be mentioned because it's too obvious. You can say that Stoick was one of the strongest men on Berk, it is true, physically. Everyone adult on Berk can kill an "average" sized dragon, like Monstrous Nightmares, Gronckles etc.. And he is Gian isn't he? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 6:55, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

That's exactly my point. And yes, its Gian. Same arguments, same grammar, same behavior, same obsessions with weight, Nightmares, comparisons to the real world, length and the chat, same information, same everything really.Megadracosaurus (talk) 10:58, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

Eh, that is true. Hopefully he doesn't make that much trouble this time...Lightning the Skrill (talk) 7:02, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

Same...Well, not for myself as I'm not online as much as I used too. But for other's, yes. Megadracosaurus (talk) 11:04, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

No no, I meant stubbornness, he is not there right now, one positive side, the negative side, people have to ALWAYS keep track of him, well different people. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 7:07, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

stubbornness? You mean when he asks about things that cannot be proven or aren't canon or are just kind of impossible, like the weight/length questions, the Death Roll of a Monstrous Nightmare and when he wanted to write a letter about one of the creators of the series? And yes, people do need to keep an eye out...But about that letter, I don't know how that guy's agenda looks like, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't answer random e-mails about how heavy a Gronckle is...Plus, I find it kind of useless to compare the Dragons to real animals. Especially if those arguments don't apply to real animals.Megadracosaurus (talk) 11:26, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

He is stubborn, but at least the admins right now don't have to chase him like last time until he got blocked. Now we are doing all that stuff. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 10:04, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

Monstrous Nightmare Abilities
Questions

1. I know I talk a lot about this I can't stop wondering. So does anyone know how many tons can Nightmare lift in the air. They are very strong they post to be one of the strongest they must be stronger then Nightfury but Toothless shown for his kind their combat ability is the highest of all dragons possible, Toothless defeated Hookfang in short but brutal fight well he did fight each other twice, and gronkle. Hookfang shown a lot of his strength for his kind. So how many tons can Hookfang can lift up? I think 4-5tons and Nightfury 3.5-4tons. Monstrous Nightmare combat ability is added. What about hunting ability as Fabghook show to chase their prey just like predators like wolves use this to make their prey to get exuasted by using up their stamina.

2. Death Roll wouldn't be cool that they have this for another special ability besides Fire Burst. This attack should be powerful enough to take Army of vickings around and bring down a Bonenapper to the floor. This is reall cool even combo with fire jacket to make Flamming Death Roll.

3.I add more info on pages please be free to see its ok please I beg of you I want to get more better learing from my actions. I want to get dragon knowledge like Fishlegs lol. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 05:34, January 6, 2015 (UTC))

Ok, so if you want to help on the wiki without disturbing others, some tips of what not to do. 1. Don't assume or be extra curious. Don't ask questions that are NOT proven in the films, like you asked about how heavy can the Monstrous Nightmare lift. They have never been demonstrated. So don't care about this as a question to OTHER PEOPLE. You can have theories, but they are not cannon. 2. Don't add abilities like death roll to dragons if they have not been proven. There is NO SUCH THING AS DEATH ROLL!!!. Please DON'T mention it anymore. I'ts annoying. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 6:01, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

The Nightmare ability section is a mess anyway. Its full of repetive and unnecary info. For example, why is it so special that a large creature like a Nightmare was able to crush Hiccup's Mangler 'without even struggeling'? That makes Nightmares sound really weak. Its like an elephant crushing a small box. Its just not impressive or worth mentioning at all. And their fire being able to burn wood is very, very useless. Because...ITS FIRE! Fire burns wood! That's common knowledge! Gian hasn't changed a bit when it come's to the information he typed. Megadracosaurus (talk) 13:27, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

You got a point there! But what happened to the Night Fury page? The infobox is totally messed up from red to white, any idea? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 9:39, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

I haven't checked that page yet, and I'm not really sure how infoboxes work :/ Megadracosaurus (talk) 13:48, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

Y'know, the 'How strong is a Nightmare' question reminds of the question asked me that one time we, regrettably, chatted...How strong is Toothless, he asked? And I said there is no answer to that, as we have never seen the limit to his power and probably never will...He kept telling me he's strong enough to hold Barf and Belch down on the ground, able to beat Hookfang etc. But that's not the limit of his strength, is it? It was an annoying question, and the fact he gloated about it made it even worse...But alas, that's in the past. Anyways, I think your problem with the infobox is fixed. Megadracosaurus (talk) 14:05, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

Ah I see, it is pretty annoying, yes he is asking about Hookfang now. As you said, there has been no proof of the limit of strength, absolutely right! How strong is Toothless? Simple answer: he is pretty strong...lol if that's exactly what he asked. So you can't say anything without proof. And yes the infobox is fixed, thanks for saying! Lightning the Skrill (talk) 10:33, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, Gian always had an obsession with Hookfang and other Nightmares to the point he once said they are stronger then a Skrill, Flightmare, Changewing, Night Fury, Thunder Drum and Typhoomerang without proof. Plus, he thought a Nightmare would defeat a Thunder Drum under water. And you're welcome! Thanks for helping me clean up the Nightmare page. I did the Gronckle and Zippleback too.Megadracosaurus (talk) 14:37, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

1.Nightmare strength why was it off in that page. They have shown off their strength able to hold heavy weight of Vicking and extra weight of teen vicking by Hookfang to hold Gobber or Alvin with Snotlout. A Wild nightmare were shown to be able to carry hippo and another nightmare was able to crush Hiccup invention the Mangler easily. Hookfang could easily hold the weight of Toothless in his mouth to toss it of his chest. Hookfang even shown to stop a speeding Meatlug with extra weight with rider by using his wing.

2.Combat ability Really no good I did a lot of work showing off their fighting style in the movie and tv.

3.According to Astrid their fire is incredible dangoures as shown in Tale of two dragons.

I'm so confuse lol I really need to become Nightmaer expert so I can understand better. Please help (FireTerryTiger (talk) 15:07, January 6, 2015 (UTC))

Being able to carry animals or Vikings isn't special, as so far, all riding Dragons have done that. Crushing Hiccup's mangler isn't impressive in the slightest. Is it impressive when an elephant breaks a small, wooden box? No. And compare Toothless' size, to Hookfang's size. Then its suddenly not impressive anymore. Unless you think its really special if a large animal throws a smaller one anyway. And last time I checked, all fire is incredible dangerous! Fire burns through wood easily. If you say that a Nightmare 'can even burn wood' with its fire, you're indirectly saying its a very weak fire. And I personally don't care how much work you put in it. Everyone makes something every once in a while and its deleted because other's don't agree. It happens to everything. It come's with being a member of a wiki. Megadracosaurus (talk) 15:13, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

Well, I agree with the Nightmare's fire being very dangerous. If you watch the extras in the HTTYD DvD, watch 'The Anatomy of a Dragon'. If I remember correctly, one of the special effect guy said that Chris Sanders (or someone else) wanted the Nightmare's fire to be so flammable that it can burn through dirt or concrete. It's also lava-like, although not really a lava but it can splash of walls and ground.  OVERPOWERED99 |  HTTYD Wiki  |  Let's Talk!  |  I Contribute!  |  Read My Blogs!  | 15:21, 6-1-2015

I never said it isn't strong. I said its not impressive if fire can 'even burn trees'.Megadracosaurus (talk) 15:23, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

I was replying to FireTerryTiger's third statement.  OVERPOWERED99 |  HTTYD Wiki  |  Let's Talk!  |  I Contribute!  |  Read My Blogs!  | 15:34, 6-1-2015

Oops XD Megadracosaurus (talk) 15:35, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

Oh my gosh, this is SERIOUSLY GETTING OUT OF HAND. How long can this argument get anyways? I'm a student right now, quite busy, I'm sure all of you are students too right? I'm COMPLETELY confused and frustrated Every time I check that FireTerryTiger has posted something, it's EXTREMELY LONG!! How much time do you think I have?! I mean...Lightning the Skrill (talk) 6:46, January 7, 2014 (UTC)

Oh and Gian, I'll call you that from now since it's easier. What Astrid said was not "EXTREMELY" dangerous fire. Think of it! It's Kerosene gel! Just fire, if you consider "fire" extremely dangerous than I guess your right but it's not extreme. I hope you know what "KEROSENE" fire is. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 6:54, January 7, 2014 (UTC)

chat
can u chatFireTerryTiger (talk) 04:21, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

Fine thanks, talk about what? Here? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 12:22, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

can u chat

pleaseFireTerryTiger (talk) 04:26, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

About what? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 12:26, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

about anything

i was wondering on nightfury page why is charactis and behavior have abilites in.

shouldnt just have behaivor personalty and charactics ahve apperanceFireTerryTiger (talk) 04:29, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

Behavior section

charatics section

abilites section

someoen put all thoses together but why they shouldnt do that

FireTerryTiger (talk) 04:30, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

Who put them together? What do you mean?Lightning the Skrill (talk) 12:31, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

look at the sections

someone who i guess created that page put charatcis with abilites and behavior with abilitesFireTerryTiger (talk) 04:34, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

I don't see anything wrong. There are Characteristics, behavior sections etc. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 12:47, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

all other pages they have abilites and apperance

why not nightfury

FireTerryTiger (talk) 04:56, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

can we chat its so munch easier then this please preety please

i really bored

FireTerryTiger (talk) 04:57, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

I think there isn't problem. The Characteristics are the same as apperence and behavior leads to abilities. Chat where? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 12:58, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

Hidden Ability
Nightfury dose not have the ability of alpha mode He challenge the Bilderbeast and won the fight It's common for wolves, lions, and other animals that are sociable to their pack or herd as they will battle the leader or alpha to become the new alpha or leader of that group. Like even Hookfang could battle the Bilderbeast if he broke the Bilderbeast mind control he could battle the alpha. The reason that Toothless have the hidden ability because of VAlka release it. If she realease let's say Hookfang or another drAgon hidden ability or they don't need the hidden ability at all to challenge that dragon. They saw Toothless battle that dragon and they know by instant that he the king. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 05:50, January 29, 2015 (UTC))

Technically, it is LITERALLY IMPOSIBLE for Hookfang to win the Bewilderbeast battle. It doesn't matter how much you like Hookfang, it is Vertually Impossible. Valka didn't release the "Alpha mode" which heats up Toothless with Blue flames. If Hookfang was even afraid of Drago, HOW ON EARTH COULD HE WIN OVER A BEWILDERBEAST????!!!! It is IMPOSIBLE.Lightning the Skrill (talk) 09:41, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

Hookfang wasn't afraid of Drago. He was just being control. If Hookfang hidden ability was activated I guess he will have chance to defeat Bilderbeast. Monstrous Nightmare fire power is stat 15 beats Nightfury 14. Its possible (FireTerryTiger (talk) 11:29, January 29, 2015 (UTC))

If Hookfang was the main dragon he can brake free from the Bilderbeast control as well. The only reason that Toothless did because his bond was munch strongest to hear Hiccup voice to brake free even though Hiccup still belive he could be control by the bilderbeast as Hiccup blind gold Toothless so he can only be herd by his best friend voice.

If Snotlout done this with Hookfang he will have the same determination as Toothless. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 11:41, January 29, 2015 (UTC))

Exactly, the director made Toothless the main character and made him very powerful, and they didn't do it with Hookfang. Hookfang was in control of Drago because his species is not as confident or aggressive as other species. Think of it, if Drago had a Speed Stinger or a Night Fury to control, it will be nearly impossible for him. The Night Fury and Speed Stinger are too aggressive for Drago to control. Hookfang DOES NOT HAVE A HIDDEN ABILITY! Not one strong enough to defeat the Bewilderbeast. As explained, the STRIKE CLASS dragons are THE MOST loyal to their riders, the Night Fury and the Skrill, NOT THE MONSTROUS NIGHTMARE. This bond can make the dragon much more aggressive and confident, something that Hookfang DOES NOT HAVE. Even the stats say so, it is physically NOT possible. Kerosene gel is simply FIRE, fire is NOT capable to take down a 500 feet beast without force. Toothless' blast is a Plasma Blast, not all fire. The force is EXTREME. Hookfang's fire is very hot but has NO force. That's why there is a huge disadvantage. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 12:42, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

We are really going back and forth on this Titan/Alpha thing. Though I have evidence!

In Rise of Berk, Valka CLEARLY says that Toothless is a Titan Wing dragon once he gets his glow. Also, he doesn't battle Drago's Bewilderbeast in the game.

Another fact is on the official website. It says Alpha's are not born into power, but is achieved in battle. So pretty much ANY dragon can be an alpha. NightFuryLover31 (talk) 14:07, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Nightfurylover31 That's what I'm trying to say its like animals of today like wolves, lions, and animals of herds fight to become the leader or alpha. Besides being titan dragon doesn't make u alpha. Toothless earn to be alpha dragon to defeat Bilderbeast. It was awesome battle (FireTerryTiger (talk) 15:05, January 29, 2015 (UTC))

Of course Toothless didn't battle the Bewilderbeast in the game. So only Toothless? What do you think? Oh, so the Gronckle, Hotburple, Hideous Zippleback, Seashocker, Flightmare, Whispering Death, Deadly Nadder, Snaptrapper, Scuttleclaw, Snafflefang, Typhoomerang, Timberjack, Scauldron titan winged dragons look GREAT right? So realistic detail is what you are saying with those creatures? It might be true that any dragon can become an alpha, but the glow that Toothless obtained made it even POSSIBLE to become one, do you think that Hookfang could become one? We have NEVER seen any special ability powerful enough to bring it down. The Glow made the Night Fury have a big chance of becoming an alpha, very very few other dragons except the Bewilderbeast itself and the Night Fury can become an alpha. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:09, January 30, 2015 (UTC)

I don't think the GLOW cause Toothless POSSIBLE to become ALPHA. I think it's way to represent a Titan Nightfury dragon. That's all. It's just away of showing he is Titan dragon that's all (FireTerryTiger (talk) 05:18, January 30, 2015 (UTC))

It kind of does, having the glow causes Toothless to have an extra strenght in his Plasma Blasts, they make the blasts infinite or at least add more, this gives Toothless the chance to defeat the Bewilderbeast, not all dragons can do this, only very few. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 11:44, January 30, 2015 (UTC)

We're never going to convince you otherwise, are we Lightning? NightFuryLover31 (talk) 14:41, January 30, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 14:54, January 30, 2015 (UTC)

Nightfurylover31 hey I am trying to chat with for while but it's ok. So you also think that Toothless was doing more like animal of fighting the Alpha. Any dragon of their world can become leader if challenge. Look at Toothless he is now the Smallest Alpha Dragon that's good for the Trivia since they are mostly huge Bilderbeast. Toothless is Titan Dragon thanks to Valka unrealse his hidden ability that cause him to get multiple Plasma Blast to defeat the evil king. So basically any dragon can become alpha if they are willing to do it. Even Meatlug, Stormfly could become queen alpha or Hookfang and Barf&Belch or even Cloudjumper. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 15:19, January 30, 2015 (UTC))

First of all, Valka didn't "release" his special ability, please get it straight. Valka demonstrated his spikes/fins split to make him maneuver and turn better. Toothless took courage and created a glow by himself. It is true every dragon can ATEMPT to be an alpha. Stormfly, Hookfang, Meatlug, Barf & Belch, Cloudjumper can try, but let me tell you, 99% will be TOTALLY UNSUCCESSFUL. They can obviously try, but they are NOT strong ENOUGH to defeat the current alpha, Toothless or the Bewilderbeast, they are just incapable of doing so because they don't have the strenght. No offense to any dragon but they are just not strong enough. Get it? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 15:47, January 30, 2015 (UTC)

Either is a Nightfury look at the stat of fire its 14 while Nightmare is 15. So the Nightmare will have chance as well they can release Flamethrower or Fire bolt or Blast what ever is called. If Hookfang has the Hidden Ability release he will have advantage. Hookfang could do his Wing Fire Blast attack to help out. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 15:56, January 30, 2015 (UTC))

As I said, Hookfang's flame has no FORCE. It cannot direct hit. This is a huge disadvantage. Wing blast DOES NOT help at all. Against a 500 feet Bewilderbeast, totally useless. The stats mean that Hookfang's fire power is hot, not much force. Flamethrower is useless against a giant that sprays ice. And for the last time HOOKFANG DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE A HIDDEN ABILITY STRONG ENOUGH TO BRING IT DOWN. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 16:04, January 30, 2015 (UTC)

In theory, every Dragon can become the new Alpha...In theory. That's it. There is no way HOOKFANG could have defeated a Bewilderbeast. The Bewilderbeast was almost the size of an entire island! Please tell me you're joking if you think the HTTYD-Version of Whirldwind or whatever its called can defeat the Bewilderbeast! And like Lithtning said, the Nightmare's fire is not strong enough to defeat the Bewilderbeast, and its fire isn't the right attack for the sitation. A Nightmare's fire is very liquid-like and does little to no force. The heat is strong, that is true. But the impact? Nope! The reason Toothless' Plasma Blasts are so strong is because of the impact they do, and how hard they come. It was the Blasts' force that defeated the Wilderbeast, not the heat. The heat may have helped, but it wasn't the main factor.

And like Lightning said, Valka had absolutely NOTHING to do with Toothless becoming an Alpha. Yes, she helped him getting those fins, but that is it. Toothless defeated the Bewilderbeast on his own.

But seriously, a Nightmare defeating the Bewilderbeast? They couldn't defeat the Red Death, and the Bewilderbeast is stronger then the Red Death! Hookfang didn't even manege to intimidate Drago in the slightest! Megadracosaurus (talk) 15:36, February 1, 2015 (UTC)

Abilities
Nightfury why isn't a section on Abilities. They a lot of mix of behavior with abilities and their characteristics with abilities.

Couldn't it have behavior section the characteristics and last abilities sections They all different. Why couldn't Nightfury page be like the others Like the monstrous nightmare page have every single section of each one. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 03:56, February 6, 2015 (UTC))

I told you this already. Characteristics, abilities, behavior is technically the same. I think its fine. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:22, February 6, 2015 (UTC)

Alvin ability of his strength he didn't throw the captupolt he just push it(FireTerryTiger (talk) 01:45, February 9, 2015 (UTC)) thats what he did exaclty not throwing

That's not special ability the tail bulgon bevause gronkle has it to that's not special its physical abilities (FireTerryTiger (talk) 14:26, February 10, 2015 (UTC))

It's not special ability, it's just an ability. Who said it was 'special'? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 15:45, February 10, 2015 (UTC)

Well you put it under the special abilities next to lava chucks (FireTerryTiger (talk) 16:13, February 10, 2015 (UTC))

That was strange to me U really great when comes for special abilities (FireTerryTiger (talk) 16:17, February 10, 2015 (UTC))

Hotburple sleeping flight that's special not all the dragons can't do that flying. That very special their cousin the gronkles wish they have this special ability (FireTerryTiger (talk) 16:25, February 10, 2015 (UTC))

The tail bludgeon comes up at abilities section on the template. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 13:46, February 11, 2015 (UTC)

Will it be for gronkles as well but its a special weaponry of their body isn't that special if it was special it be like flaming tail bludgeon that will be so cool(FireTerryTiger (talk) 14:51, February 11, 2015 (UTC))

flying is actual ability if you have wings you are able to fly unlike their some species of birds with wings unable to fly but they make it up for either speed like ostrish  or swimmer like peguins

i was saying about fireworms because they said to be unable to fly but they are able to fly though on berk their fireworms dont have wings mayb ethey need more time to grow their full size like fireworm island they seem to be bit bigger(FireTerryTiger (talk) 16:56, February 11, 2015 (UTC))

Flying is not a special ability for Dragons, all dragons that we know of except Speed Stingers and Bewilderbeasts can fly. Even birds is not considered as a ability. Even though it is. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 11:35, February 12, 2015 (UTC)

i dont why are you tellig mega that im saying flamming death roll and i havent talk about it for while to u.

the reason why i said flamming tail bludgeon becuase gronkles have it to. not special ability its its just a weapon. if it was flamming then you should at it to the speacil ability. Also Skullcrusher kind has tail club and Nightmares have tail that its use as tail club like. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 14:32, February 12, 2015 (UTC))

Oh my God! A Creature with a long, powerfull tail uses it as a weapon! Never thought I'd live to see the day! But seriously, using your tail as a weapon is NOT special. Almost every Dragon in the franchise can, in theory, use its tail as a weapon. Night Furries, Nightmares, Typhoomerangs, Gronckles, Nadders, Whispering Deaths, Speed Stingers etc ALL OF THEM! And when exactly have Gronckles used that 'Fire Bludgeon' or whatever you call it? As Lightning and I already told you hundreds of times, KEEP YOUR FANFICTION TO YOURSELF! Is it really that hard to understand? Stick to the canon abilities and rules, and DON'T make stuff up because YOU think its cool. I can think of tons of cool things, yet I don't add them. Why? THEY'RE NOT CANON! There's HTTYD-FanFiction for that. If you really want to create overpowered attacks for characters that aren't Supposed to be super powerfull (Such as Hookfang or Meatlug) write a FanFiction about it and stop pestering people about it.

And as I already told you before when you were still on your original account (The very first one, before you made all those fake one's and got banned), flying is NOT a special ability for a Dragon or a Bird. Almost every species of Dragon can fly. Its literally not special for a Dragon to be able to fly. Now look at mammals. The bat is the only one who can fly. Then its special, because its the only of its group who can do it. But for a group of animals where almost every member can fly (Such as birds or Dragons) then NOT being able to fly is much more special. And no, that isn't a special ability so don't add that.

Also, as Lightning said, you are causing him stress with your constant whining and pestering, especially Since he has better things to do. Did you ever stop to consider that, just maybe, you're constant questions, text Walls, impatience, begging, complaining, FanFictions and all that other stuff you do on a regular basis are, oh I don't know, ANNOYING?!

For the good of both Lightning and you, have some freaken' Patience! If you CONSTANTLY add, write, beg and ask things, people will consider you to be annoying. And honestly, can you blame 'em? Honestly, you're almost like a stalker or a hyper fanboy. Learn some patience and don't send text Walls to people and don't constantly beg people for a chat. The more you ask, the less appealing they will consider chatting with you to be. No one likes cliny or needy people. But why am I even Typing this? We all know You'll ignore it. Megadracosaurus (talk) 17:41, February 12, 2015 (UTC)

OMG YOU GUYS ARE NOT READING CORRECTLY I said a tail club is not special ability. Its a weaponry of their body of these two dragons that's all. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 17:44, February 12, 2015 (UTC))

All I said that if it was able to flame up on their tail club for gronkle or Hotburple then that's special ability but it doesn't do that at all. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 17:47, February 12, 2015 (UTC))

With such bad grammer, its easy to misunderstand. I suggest you write it better next time, in order to avoid misunderstandings. Besides, you're missing the point. Lightning asked me for help because cause him stress. The attack was simply part of it. Megadracosaurus (talk) 17:50, February 12, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Just copy the exact phrase, "Toothless, *roars*, thank you." Lightning the Skrill (talk) 16:58, February 13, 2015 (UTC)

Thunderdrum AND Abilites
I was saying able to fly high altitudes.

Baby thunderdrums are 11ft long in official dragon website

A picture of describing of thunderdrum in the gallary said can hear their roar for few miles away(FireTerryTiger (talk) 17:20, February 13, 2015 (UTC))

You said young Thunderdrums. All dragons are able to fly at high altitudes. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:25, February 14, 2015 (UTC)

no i said for the adults and for babys were about their strength able to drag two young vickings with no diffuclties but you fix it for struggle make sence though your wayFireTerryTiger (talk) 08:41, February 14, 2015 (UTC)

The roar is already mentioned in How to Pick Your Dragon. It is already mentioned in the page. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:26, February 14, 2015 (UTC)

What about size of baby thunderum its said 11ft on the official website possible meaning wing span(FireTerryTiger (talk) 03:48, February 14, 2015 (UTC))

What you wrote didn't make sense, and the previous version maked more sense. The size of the baby Thunderdrums are 11 INCHES TALL. I've already said that " means inches. Its not the wing span, it is the height. Don't worry about it. I'll do it. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 10:27, February 14, 2015 (UTC)

want to chat

I don't really have time, and I don't want to talk a LONG time about your stuff. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 10:01, February 18, 2015 (UTC)

no commas in front of "and" my cousin told me she english teacherFireTerryTiger (talk) 06:44, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

You are wrong, in some cases, you use a comma in front of and, when there is a pause, which in that case, there is. Sometimes you don't use them, but sometimes you do. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 06:46, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

Whipsering death vaacum abilty is on the offical website no point of deleting itFireTerryTiger (talk) 07:13, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

screaming death has that as their specail abilty FireTerryTiger (talk) 07:13, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I accidentally pressed the button, it's fine now. The Screaming Death doesn't have that, only the Whspering Death. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 07:21, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

oh ok tahnk you for putting back. i thought that u were thinking i was leingFireTerryTiger (talk) 07:23, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

also i putting more abilites on dragons pages. how come no one else is doing that but me

are they to buzy or didnt relaize FireTerryTiger (talk) 07:23, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

hey their

Do you see that everyone here is practically busy? We have other things to do, I don't know what you do, but I will try to edit, and see what you are doing. I'll correct it if it's wrong. Maybe you can take a brake, we all have other things to do. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 02:43, February 20, 2015 (UTC)

Its saids it on the Offical dragon website and habitat I didn't do that (FireTerryTiger (talk) 13:41, February 20, 2015 (UTC))

It is basically the same thing. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 15:51, February 20, 2015 (UTC)

Oh that's true (FireTerryTiger (talk) 16:27, February 20, 2015 (UTC))

Red Death has that abiltiy of the Vaccum Affect why did you deleted itFireTerryTiger (talk) 02:04, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

That is not vacuum effect, it is just enormous, so it can suck anything in its mouth. It is not vacuum effect. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 02:06, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

Inhailing its on the fire type page for red deathjFireTerryTiger (talk) 02:10, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

its has to be special their te gallray showing to say abiltiy menaing special becuase most dragons cant do thisFireTerryTiger (talk) 02:14, February 21, 2015 (UTC)



Than what do you call a vacuum effect for the Red Death? And for the Boneknapper? It is not an ability at all. When the Boneknapper collects all its bones as armor, it gains its roar, that's an ability. Collecting bones is not an ability! Lightning the Skrill (talk) 02:16, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

but it saids on the gallray info so that special becuase other dragons cant do this FireTerryTiger (talk) 02:20, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

What? Other dragons can't collect bones?! So this is the SPECIAL ABILITY? I don't know how to explain this stupid question. Could you have some common sense please? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 02:26, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

i saying this dragon of Bonenapper is able to creat their own armor meanig its specia abilty. Special abilty for Bonenapper is creating their own armor of bones from dead dragons. FireTerryTiger (talk) 02:29, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

Yes that is unique if dragons, but it is not an ability, nor a special ability. Think of us, we are able to make stuff. Dragons are intelligent creatures. Most of them are capable of doing so. Such as the Speed Stinger, Deadly Nadder, Hobblegrunt, but all of them don't need aromr. They are able to do so because they have longer limbs than other dragons. So it is not an ability. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 02:34, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

no promblem i tried to do my best

but you should be happy i putting alot of abilties and weaporny on the dragons

iam very hard worker though to help out on this wiki

You don't need to put any more WEAPONARY sections on any other dragon pages. JUST leave it there. I know you do a lot of stuff, but I don't want to chase your mistakes and grammar problems. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 02:46, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

why not add wepaorny. Dragons have wepaons show it should be in the section.

eggs of whispering death do expolde that abilty just like gronkles

Because some dragons don't have weaponary, OR were not shown or proven yet. Besides nearly all eggs explode. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 02:56, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

So its ability of wispering death should be put as abilty section. Also wispering death are also can fly as well when hatch

Everything about ABILITIES AND WEAPONARY is fine now. I think you should leave it there. That flying should be put in the trivia, like the Thunderpede. I'll do it. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:09, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

No don't put it in the trivia just put in the ability section that Wispering Death flys at a faster rate compared to other dragons when hatched.--FireTerryTiger (talk) 05:35, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

What should be put in the trivia is that Whispering Deaths are cabable of flying with no effort at all. GotNF shows that all the other baby dragons have trouble when it comes to flying, they couldn't fly to Berk on their own. Whispering Deaths can. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:52, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

....Dude, Lightning. I honestly feel sorry for you right now. Megadracosaurus (talk) 11:54, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

Wow, yeah, its pretty tiring. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 13:11, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

what about the poor climber of his weskness and for his kindFireTerryTiger (talk) 20:50, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

Toothless Weakness
i was saying since he not able to fly if he get trap in a hole he wont be able to climb becuase his kind are poor climbersFireTerryTiger (talk) 00:19, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Ok that's it, since you are not reading it, I'm coping everything I wrote on Toothless the Nightfury's talk page. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 00:23, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Why don't you get it? If any animal has lost something that they need to survive, then they will have a disability. If Speed Stingers lost its leg, then it has the disability of running, if Thunderdrums lose their secondary wings, then they can't fly. If Stormcutters lose their tail fins, then they have the disability of flight as well. If this is a weakness for all dragons, then you don't put it on a page. Unless you want to put it on all the dragon's pages! This is not a weakness. The Night Fury has no known "unique" weakness. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 00:21, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

I wrote it, it makes sense. Please get it. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 00:26, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

for Toothless page for section of weakness is that his kind are poor climbers epasicly for Toothless if he trap he wont be able to get out since his kind cant climb that a weakness for him only. so he can starve to death if he cant escape

Disabiltiy of Climbing understand

Toothless being disabiltiy of flight if he falls in trap hole he wont be able to climb since his kind don't have the abiltiy of climbing

weakness for only Toothless only since if his kind do actual exist they can get out since they are able to fly ou their with no promblem but for toothless wont able to since he cant fly or his kind dont have the abilty of  climb

I understand. I wrote it on Toothless the Nightfury's talk. Put just to be clear, let's agree to talk on only ONE page, not two. So you either choose Toothless' page or My page, or you can end the conversation. Please let me know. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 00:41, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Yago e.x.e called us stupid not sure who exaclty but i was agrredign with you

so i told him to apologize to you or me that wasnt nice to treat someone like that at allFireTerryTiger (talk) 03:36, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

i do belive he will apologize to the both of usFireTerryTiger (talk) 03:37, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Monstrous nIghtmares sharp spines are shown in the picture to their spines to put fish on to store it to eat it later while resting and keeping warm by using his fire jacket FireTerryTiger (talk) 05:20, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Oh for the love of...Gian, do you even read the things Lightning Posts?! The cove's wall was perfectly straight, just like that Cliff. There are very few animals, Dragons included, who can walk on a straight cliff up. That doesn't mean they're bad climbers. You think a Gronckle, Thunderdrum, Scauldron, Deadly Nadder or Hotburple could have climbed a STRAIGHT Cliff without using their wings?! Seriously, Lightning said it several times. Do you have dyslexia or something?!

Also, for Toothless being a 'bad climber' because he couldn't hold on the Tiny island, look at the size of the island. Then look at how much room Stormfly and Meatlug take in.

Lightning, honestly dude. If Gian Keeps annoying you, you should do something about it. Its obviously not going to end Anytime soon mate. Megadracosaurus (talk) 08:42, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah I know... He even argues with admins, and they just keep quiet and let him type out everything. I should do the same, just saying he is very presistant. Which is not a good thing, at all. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 10:09, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, and he ignores it all even though you make it obvious you're annoyed at him. But that knife cuts on both edges. If you just ignore Gian, he'll writes his nonsense on the wikia and nobody does something about it. If you don't ignore him and put up with his pestering, he keeps irrating you. Like I said, its not a very pleasant situation. In worst case, you can one of the other admins. Doubt they'll do something though. Even if you tell Gian off, he'll just go and find complain to someone else. Megadracosaurus (talk) 10:16, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

"You can ONE of the other admins". What? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 10:19, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, missed a word XD I meant that you can tell one of the Admins how much Gian annoys you with his constant questions and complains. But like I said, doubt they'll do something about it. Aside from making bad edits and being VERY annoying, he didn't do something extremely bad. Megadracosaurus (talk) 10:21, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, thats true. Well we just have to wait and see if anything gets worse. Also I have to keep chasing his edits. I can't do anything about it. This wiki is for everyone. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 10:24, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

I know the feeling, mate. I was the one who chased his edits back in the 'ole days -_- Megadracosaurus (talk) 10:26, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Yup, my turn now! If he gets blocked, barely anyone will chase his nect account, as the HTTYD world is about to end by 2018! NOO! Lightning the Skrill (talk) 10:29, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

I'm passing the torch down to you, my friend XD You don't know that for sure. The third movie may end, that much is true. But there are still spin-offs, the TV Series, the games and the novels. Megadracosaurus (talk) 10:31, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Wow, you are a very VERY good friend XD. Passing ALL the work to me when HE IS MORE ACTIVE RIGHT NOW! Lightning the Skrill (talk) 10:35, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

I actually think he did more back in the 'ole days. Although I admit he now asks more questions then then, he edits less too. 'Sides, during that time, he constantly made fake accounts, which also annoying. Especially when he denied it, yet EVERYONE knew it was him. It was kinda hilarious XD

And hey, I never said I was a good friend :P Megadracosaurus (talk) 10:39, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, now he doesn't deniy it. He admits, no other way to hide.

I wanted to say:Wow, you are a very VERY good friend XD. Passing ALL the work to me when you just relax and take a drink! Oh well, thats how it goes! Lightning the Skrill (talk) 10:43, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. I'm not really a fan of fake accounts or people who use 'em. Seems kinda desperate and pathetic to me. And like I told Gian plenty of times: If you lie, do it good. Don't make it so obvious.

Just enjoying my retirement XD Megadracosaurus (talk) 10:45, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Scualdron and Abilites
what was wrong with it with the scualrdon size and jaw strength?

Nightfury being frozen few seconds thing it wasnt that i belived toothless was already using his plasma blast beofre he was frozen? Thats special abiltiy so why not Reflctor Wings of Plasma Blast isnt for Skrill thats speiclal abiltiy. No other dragon can do that to relfect agianst Night Fury but most dragons like Typhoomberangs and Monstrous nightmares use their wings for self defense.

Toothless got forzen. Then few seconds later he charged up with blue fire, which with its intense heat, exploded the ice. And how many times do I have to tell you? The Skrill WASEN'T REFECTING IT. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:32, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

yes it was

did u watch the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Glr4uce30cI

he didnt show any pain from reflecting the plasma blast at all

No it didn't. The blast was WEAK, don't you understand? Toothless can fire at a different power level. The blast he fired is very weak. So it wasn't a reflect. It just hit the Skrill, thats it. And I CANNOT WATCH THE VIDEO BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LET ME. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:41, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

what ever

what about the sculadrons long whiskers as features

Can you call it something else? Because they aren't whiskers. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:45, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

oh i thiought their wereFireTerryTiger (talk) 03:55, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

Two string-like whiskers are connected to the Scauldrons' upper jaw. it saids in the '"appearance section

Could you change it to "two whisker-like strings are connected...". That makes more sense. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:59, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

sure ill do that no promblem

the_night_fury_vs_the_skrill__httyd2_webnovel_ch2__by_inhonoredglory-d5bf8sm.jpg

my gift gor you

since you love skrills

Nice! Thanks! Lightning the Skrill (talk) 04:04, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

did u ever saw it before

Actually I did, long time ago, but I do appreciate it! Lightning the Skrill (talk) 04:08, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa4dGPcH0Mc watch it copy an paste it

this is my cat please

also are you excited about Jurrasic World

i dieing to see it

i wish my father was here he loved those movies this will be the first time to not watch Jurrasic movie with out him we alwys watch those movies together

i really do miss himFireTerryTiger (talk) 04:18, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for your loss. And yes, I am very excited for Jurassic World to come out! Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:22, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

He die from the car accedent

he was driving home from downtown in new york. He was on the high way we found out that other car hit him but he drove away and never was found :{

i'm miss him so munch

my step father is great i do call him dad but its strange to me

but i think my dad is fine with that

he was killed 4yrs agoFireTerryTiger (talk) 05:26, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

it was more strange on my father side when he pass away soem people on his side treat us terrible and told us i front of my mom who goign to help them now. Like money who are they goign to my father funeral to ask us about money. I hate most of my family on father side they treat terrible when he always help them. :[ mood very angrey

Do you read about my father death but my mom let it go. But I didn't let it go. I lied to my own mother. I feel guilty but I can't let it go at all.

And do you see my cat hunting video

I really have no idea what you are talking about, and yes I watched the cat vid. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 06:50, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

I was telling you the stroy about my father death and his pain in the ass family who treats him terrible and to us. In his furneral they went up to my mom about money they need to pay off bills and stuff. Their truly like I'm trying to stay selfish greedy family uncaring about their brother and cousin who pass away. My mother never and I either never forgive them.

What did you think of the video of my cat hunt?

Also their a stroy I want to tell you about my cat.

When we got it from my uncle resturant as kitten. We brought it to the vet next few days to make a check up on him to see is healthy and take shots we also found out to be female. So we named her Sofia. Later when Sofia growing I notice two bumbs on her fur balls between the legs. So I thought maybe its a male but my aunt said no. We took to the vet again just in case the week afther the vet said its a female and my aunt was laughing at me saying she was right. Then she grown full size 9inch tall and 12lbs the bottom of fur balls grow a bit bigger because he was licking himself around their for grooming. I told my aunt she was yielding at me so munch she pick up my cat put her on my aunt legs to flip her over she use one finger and my cat "meow" she was screaming saying I have to wash my hands now she is a boy. So we what to the vet again found out was boy. It took three vets to fingure the gender wow. Now his named is afther my uncle.

Wow, that's intresting. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 00:33, February 25, 2015 (UTC)i

i know three vets lolFireTerryTiger (talk) 01:28, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, also, just to point out, please don't say any offensive words here. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:06, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

when i saw bad words

I was telling you the stroy about my father death and his pain in the ass family who treats him terrible and to us. In his furneral they went up to my mom about money they need to pay off bills and stuff. Their truly like I'm trying to stay selfish greedy family uncaring about their brother and cousin who pass away. My mother never and I either never forgive them. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:17, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

oh im so sorry

i really sorry

i was very angrey about this FireTerryTiger (talk) 05:19, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

please understnad please

Its fine, if you don't say it again. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:20, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

i ddint say that to you. though just in case it was about my family

Even though, you shouldn't say it. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:25, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Good for you. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:45, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

about what? whats good for meFireTerryTiger (talk) 05:48, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Having a cat like yours. XD Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:49, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

wow thanks do you have pet

Yeah, a Hamster though. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:52, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

thats cool

whats is name and how old?

its sad that they have short life spans too bad they cant live longer like 10yrs or moreFireTerryTiger (talk) 05:54, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

What? Hamsters can only live a maximum 2 years. Mine is doing well and we had him for over a year. So he is like a year and a half old. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:59, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

funny my cousin hamster lived for 4yrs unless different kind of hamster

Wow thats intresting, she is lucky! Lightning the Skrill (talk) 06:04, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

not she my cousin jimmy lol but it was female hamster as well though they say females do live longer for humans maybe same for animals

also lifespans how long do you think dragons can live exactly under 100yrs like peopele

Woops! Sorry. But I think how female animals live longer than males in hamsters is unlikely. We have absolutly no idea of how long dragons lived. But it is possible that they live about the same span as humans. At least some species. I think Toothless would. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 06:09, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

dont foget the red death said to live for thousands of years

its not fair for other dragons that are not as special as night furys

i do belive night fury is the truly the best of all dragosn but its not fair for other thinking they want to be night fury instead to be the greatest

I said depends on the species. Bigger ones live longer, medium ones possibly the same as us, smaller ones live shorter. Possibly. I don't know how its unfair. The directors made Night Furies the best, or one of them. Its like saying that its unfair that Peregrine Falcons are faster than any other animal. So you are saying that's unfair? Or God is unfair? Its just how the people made it. They can, in the first place, make another species the best. Then Hiccup would train that species. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 06:18, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

well how long do think the gronkles, mostrous nightmares, zipplebacks, nadders, terrrors, and night fury will just liek guess

Monstrous Nightmares-75-100yrs

gronkle-80-85yrs

nadders-75yrs

Zippleback-65-85

terros-20-50yrs

Nightfury-100

Its possible, doesn't seem illogical, but we are definetly not sure. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 06:24, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

i promise ill will be good FireTerryTiger (talk) 06:38, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Ah, ok...I hope so. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 06:40, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Jurassic World
I was wondering do you think Jurrasic world the Hybrid will have amazing powers from Cruttlefish like Camfluage, Constricting tail, Intellect, aquatic and three hearts showing healing factors.

Jurrasic Park Velceraptor DNA- powers of Stamina, speed, intellect, hunting and leap

Trex DNA- Intellect of cat, jaw strength 13,000lbs, hunting, bacteria, roar, vibration sence in a Jurrasic Fight club were belived to have this ability, sences binocular vision and endurable body

Snake-venom

The Hybrid is hunting for sports so cool

My father will love to see this movie

Also Rexie is back from the first movie with scars from Big One (FireTerryTiger (talk) 06:25, February 24, 2015 (UTC))

I know all that :) It's cool to think about Speed Stingers are related to Velociraptors. And seeing how they will be trained in JW, really cool! Lightning the Skrill (talk) 06:32, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

These powers will be great. Do you think the hybrid will make to the next movie since having three hearts of they make another movie

I don't think it has 3 hearts. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 06:38, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for correcting my grammars I'm sorry how the way am I I'm not the best of garmmer or anything I'm truly am so sorry. Thank you

Also you don't think it will have three hearts from the cruttlefish that will be great

It will be cool, but I don't think they will. Besides, it hasn't been confirmed that it has DNA of a cuttlefish, it's just a rumor. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 06:44, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

That's true

What about the Mososaurs the largest was 60ft long weight 5tons.

This one weights 30,000lbs so the 3x the size making it 180ft long and jaw strength of trex.

I know, it is unpredictably big. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 06:51, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

Velceraptor trainer is like Master Splinter and I think he named 4 Velceraptors

Its so awesome that at the end, all the forces of human and dinosaur are going to fight the I Rex. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 07:04, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

sooo cooool. i cant wai to see this Velcerpatrs were villans in the past now their going to be heros. Do you think that Rexy will come to fight of the I REX as well but possible will get killed or hurt badly which i hope she will surrived i loved her she my faviorte.

180ft mososaurs will possible come in th end to bite the neck of the hybrid to try to devored it but possible might surrived it

Hey Lightign skrill im so sorry to waist your time to tell you about my father. It just felt great to talk about it. im so sorry please fogive me about. I not even sure you even understand it at all. I was telling the story about his family treating us on his funeral. How selfish their are that my mother was cryign they ask her about moeny they need to pay off bills and other stuuf.

I don't think the mosasaur will have to do anything about it. It's ok, you are not really wasting my time. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 07:31, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

oh thank you it feels great to talk or chat with someone about this.

maybe we can start being freinds i know my father will be happy about thisFireTerryTiger (talk) 07:35, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

well have good night.. thank you for chatting with me

ill try to behave better but im not the best grammer but illl do my very best. So please forgive me if i make mistakes im so sorry good night

in the jurrasic world website ddi you read the hybrid dna has in it. carntosaur, gigatsaurs, and two other dinos i never herd of.

i really was hoping th trex, velceraptor, snake, and cuttlifish. these better choices for intellect well not the snake the other three. trex have intllect of catFireTerryTiger (talk) 05:35, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

what dna in the hybrid do you like for the hybrid choices if this was your moive

the choices that like was the orginal of the two animals and two dinos

Well, not my choice, I like to just follow the official ones. The animals are cool, and for the Dinos, I follow the official ones: T-Rex? Raptor? Ceratosaurus, wait or Carnotaurus? I forgot that. And Magungosaurus (how to spell idk) Rugops (no idea how to spell) and Gigantosaurus. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 00:34, March 1, 2015 (UTC)

Carnotaurus, Majungasaurus, Rugops and Giganotosaurus.

these are dinos for the hybrid

Majungasasurus and rugops never even herd of my entire life of these dinos

i wonder why he pick them

Trex, velceraptor, cuttlefish and snake to me its better choices then those FireTerryTiger (talk) 06:33, March 1, 2015 (UTC)

Because Carnotaurus has horns like the I-Rex, Majungasaurus, RUgops are tuff and strong big dinos, and the Gigantosaurus is huge, its bigger than a T-Rex and still smaller than Spino though. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 06:39, March 1, 2015 (UTC)

trex is smater then gigiantosuar

cuttleish is better choice then carnotosuar

velceraptor in jurrasic park version gives great stamina

snake gives venom

also with cuttlefish dna gives irex tail gripping to use on humans that will be coolFireTerryTiger (talk) 06:44, March 1, 2015 (UTC)

Fanghook
Was acting was ok for skill (FireTerryTiger (talk) 04:40, February 25, 2015 (UTC))

Intellgiance for animals is not ability because a researcher told me that animals that do think its actual ability of their intellects not for humans but mostly on animals. Such as cats, dogs, elephants, primates and octopus like Cuttlefish as well.(FireTerryTiger (talk) 04:40, February 25, 2015 (UTC))

Its very confusing, acting... Acting is not a skill or ability in dragons. To the real world at least. It should be in the trivia. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 04:49, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Saying as skill for the Fanghook. Its actual skill not ability.

The abilities was the acrobactics and fire burst.

The researcher told me while ago intellect for animals that is very well is ability and grey wolves physical ability (FireTerryTiger (talk) 04:55, February 25, 2015 (UTC))

I meant skill as well. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 04:57, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

What? For intellect for dragons.

Its intellegence. And yes, I guess it is an ability. So I replaced it with communication skills because he showed little communication and the description for the communication skills is all about intellegence. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:04, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

well he didnt learn hand singles for commucation skills like other dragons

but what about whistle to be called and stoick did the same for thornado

FireTerryTiger (talk) 05:15, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Also called "Dragon Call", at least similar. All dragons share the same thing, so no point mentioning. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:19, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

i ddint mean to delete the failer part on fanghook inttelct sorry my bad.FireTerryTiger (talk) 05:29, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

the reason i did that to show what he learn for his intlliagnce

Monstrous Nightmares, Sizes, and strength
Monstrous Nightmare sharp spines are they weaponry they use it for fish though they never show the tv seires but the pictures they have for Book of dragons special

that intllegiance as well FireTerryTiger (talk) 05:18, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Actually, they don't store fish, I mean why would they do so? They use it somewhat like a barbecue. They hold it on with their spikes, then set their self on fire, to cook it. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:23, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

spikes isnt spines

Is that should be mention for the physicaly weaporny for monstrous nightmare or no

or innteligance for their kind as aabiltiy that is smart as wel to think of that

Spikes, Spines, basacally the same. It shouldn't be mentioned there because it doesn't use it as a weapon, or at least for that case. Intellegence is an ability. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:30, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Monstrous Nightmare show intelllgiance as they are able to use their sharp spines/spikes (mostly spines it called for the show) able to use make a barbecue as shown in the pictures and can learn great over day if truely gets respect from their trainer.

It should be put in the trivia. Because it was never shown in any other source. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:35, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

do you know why did Pretty allison 100 deleted about the triva i put on Hookfang that he was the possibpe the first to surrived from the kill ring becuase station 7 said it was ok when i told him about it

I don't know why. Its not the biggest mistake anyone could make so I don't know. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:40, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

should we put it back or no FireTerryTiger (talk) 05:41, February 25, 2015 (UTC) ok thank you for permission to put it back on

do you think monstrous nightmares will grown full size 70ft long and maybe their wingspan maybe 80ft

the size of Night Fury is medium so they could reach 27ft long and Skrills 30ft long.

Yes they can, Toothless is currently 26 ft long, and the Skrill reaches 29 ft long. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 08:46, February 26, 2015 (UTC)

How big do you think Toothless can grow full size I thinking 27ft long and weighting 1,800lbs and Skrill length 30-32ft long and weight 2,250lbs

Monstrous Nightmares size said to reach 70ft long so I'm guessing their weight 5,000-6,250lbs and wingspan 70-80ft long but possible 77ft because Hookfang is 61ft long and wingspan 68 so adding it by 7. Maybe that's how it works I like to know why couldn't they have put his wings saying 70ft wingspan instead then 68ft to me its better but oh well.

Monstrous Nightmare I added about their strength muscle able to carry heavy Vikings with extra weight of teen. Is that ok or no.

I also while ago info on Zipplebacks strength as they can carry heavy Vikings but I think weight like Fishlegs shown but of struggle because it realase gas or didn't to make get off their necks.(FireTerryTiger (talk) 17:33, February 26, 2015 (UTC))

what about the strength of zippleback? is it ok

Fully grown Skrills should reach 30 ft. And you should always refer to the official stats. Even though you feel better with a bigger lenght. You can use it in your fanfic a and stories but on the wiki refer to the official ones. I don't agree with your Skrill weight. They are slim fast and agile, so something similar to a Night Fury. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 00:00, February 27, 2015 (UTC)

I already did it. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 01:41, February 27, 2015 (UTC)

oh sorry

Barf and belch page section on Aperance said to have 38wingspan FireTerryTiger (talk) 13:56, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

gronkle
i really want to see this Bumper Scater blast i was hoping for in the second film but it didnt show it

i also while ago

added abilites of Intellegiance and combat ability agaisnt Night Fury did you read that yet

i did it like two weeks ago i think FireTerryTiger (talk) 05:57, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Well it is confirmed they can do that, it might be featured in the show though. And no i haven't read it yet. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 06:03, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

also who comfired it how dont we know it isnt fake which i hope not

it was only drawing and not offical website of the dragon

I know, it should be confirmed but it is not official yet. The toys also built it up like that. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 06:06, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

funny they made toy of Flame Wings of Monstrous NIghtmares can do that. meaning hidden ability wow that cool and powerfulFireTerryTiger (talk) 06:43, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

do you think its hidden abilty

no big deal i have a feeling it wasnt good FireTerryTiger (talk) 06:32, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Ataiato/media/Skrill_zps4bf7be78.png.html

Gronkcles I wonder why the Offical dragon page didn't add immunty of dragon root and Bumber Scatter Blast.

Whispering Deaths being rock eater dragon might have this hidden ability but that screaming Death has shown but of affect or just saw Fishlegs and Meatlug to get his revange on them from their last fight they have together by trying to eat them.

Getting Revange is good trivia to put for the Screaming Death. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 20:32, February 25, 2015 (UTC))

The Whispering Death is more related to the Screaming Death, or the other way around, because they are basically the same species. So it is most likely, not 100% true, that the Whispering Death is NOT immune to the dragon root. Because the Screaming Death isn't. And the Screaming Death also eats rocks, or islands. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 00:35, February 26, 2015 (UTC)

did you saw the photo i gave you FireTerryTiger (talk) 02:10, February 26, 2015 (UTC)

Yes. That's me! XD Lightning the Skrill (talk) 02:22, February 26, 2015 (UTC)

oh you been knowing that

i was looking semthing very special for you as gift

Why? Its OK. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 02:25, February 26, 2015 (UTC)

no i was trying to find gift that you like asbut the skrill but i guess you saw that picture long time ago before i can show u:(

Its Ok, why do you have to find one? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 02:29, February 26, 2015 (UTC)

skrill is your faviorte so i wan to fidn special picture buts its hard

Actually the Skrill is not my favorite. You didn't read My profile? The Night Fury is my favorite, the Skrill is my second. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 02:34, February 26, 2015 (UTC)

so your Strike expert user

Stoker Expert my faviorte

Yup, Woolly Howl included! XD Lightning the Skrill (talk)

it was 5points from the past before it became 10 in the futue

Oh, sorry, I'll change it. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 15:09, February 27, 2015 (UTC)

No big deal You were right it was 10points but in the past it was 5points What made them change their mind? I thought maybe later Stoick will said "Maybe next game the Black sheep will be worth 10points"

Sheild and Seasons 3-4
What do you think happen to Hiccup sheild I was hoping to see it in the second movie?

Do you think he gave it to Dagger possible a peace treating? Maybe they become friends in the third or fourth season like Hiccup saves Dagur life that made him become good. (FireTerryTiger (talk) 15:25, February 27, 2015 (UTC))

Do you think Alvin will return in the seasons? I honestly think Alvin will sacerfice his life to save Hiccup, Snotlout or Stoick life?

I was hopping to see him in the 2nd film to help out but maybe they didn't think about him at all?

I really hope to find out what is the resin with Toothless and his arch enemy whispering Death?

I think Toothless was the cause of this because the Whispering Death was looking for him maybe Toothless came to his home by accident and Toothless arch enemy was trying to protect his home that was cause a fight that became to disaster of Whispering Death home. We don't know the true history of the dragons if their were good or bad?

Also in Rise of the Riders said that Alvin Dragon was almost train by Hiccup but it might meant that Hiccup was the one who told Alvin that the Whispering Death won't stop trying to escape.

I think Hiccup's shield would appear in the next season. I think Alvin will return in the next season, I personally don't think Dagur would be friends and have a peace treaty with the Berkians. It is possible that Toothless caused it because Whispering Deaths are really territorial, but again the Night Fury is even more territorial so if Toothless had a home, than the Whispering Death might have started it. And it is Rise of Berk not Rise of the riders. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 01:38, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

Also I honestly don't expect a Season 4, even though I am really hoping for one, I can't expect it. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 01:40, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

Whispering Death and Toothless

This what I see.

My cat is great hunter wants to defend his territory of my home and a groundhog that always comes to eat my father tomatos so my cat chase it away. Now one day the. Groundhog came back to chaseing my cat away that made the Groundhog to defend to take over the yard.

Groundhog is the whispering death My cat is Nightfury

They both hate each other want to kill each other Does this make sence?

That makes sense but that means they share the exact same territory. That can't be for Toothless and the Whispering Death, they are two completely different dragons, Night Fury in the sky, or at least high places, Whispering Death underground. Just think about Timberjacks and Thunderdrums. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 02:08, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

Groundhog lives underground

Cats like being high places like My cat loves to stay on top mountainsFireTerryTiger (talk) 03:38, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, that's true, but your cat is a pet. So he/she is kept in your yard, and so is a groundhog as they live under soil. When it comes out, it is in your yard. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:40, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

so is it like half or mostly right

i tryinf to understnad?

According to my opinion, half right. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:58, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

ill take it

how your hamster doing and how old is it

He is doing fine. And I don't know how old he is. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 04:43, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

when did you get him

December 2013. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 04:53, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

he like two years old

im tranning my cat to stay fit.

i was talking to cat expert while ago using treats throwing down the stairs to help to improve his speed and stamina possible bit longer then average cat.

but it will be hard since cats really dont have stamina mostly engrey.FireTerryTiger (talk) 05:02, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

we cant say that for weakness and advantge

There is no need for advantage. All the other dragons only have weakness. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:15, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

You put weakness then how they can advantge it on screaming death. Samething with th monstrous njightmares and gronkles as well

We are not talking about defeating it there. We are just stating the weakness. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:20, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

oh sorry when you put that i was thinking whats opssite of weakness was advantge. sorry

haha, the opposite of weakness is strength. The opposite of advantage is disadvantage. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:25, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

oh ;p lolFireTerryTiger (talk) 05:32, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

https://pr.netflix.com/WebClient/getNewsSummary.do?newsId=1265

Whispering Death
Whispering Deaths combat ability are able to fight off Night Fury as Toothless arch enemy had prove it. Can we say that? That why add that part about their combat?(FireTerryTiger (talk) 14:53, March 3, 2015 (UTC))

It was already mentioned on the previous paragraph. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 12:24, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

where i dont see it FireTerryTiger (talk) 13:43, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

Its already done. I changed it into one paragraph and updated the grammar. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 14:54, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

Whispering Deaths are able to fight off Night Fury as shown by Toothless arch enemy.

i know you said its in the paragraph but which section i dont see it in the abilites section

i only see whispering death are able to tail whip a nightfury

about the whispering death combat ability agianst night fury

i dont see this sentance on the section of abilties

my teacher gave me this
http://www.reverso.net/spell-checker/english-spelling-grammar/

i use it on monstrous nightmare page its awsome

Good for you. So I don't expect you to make errors. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 02:04, March 6, 2015 (UTC)

lol

i dot get it this website tells me the correct wayFireTerryTiger (talk) 04:52, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

What are you talking about? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 04:54, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

i gave you the website that was given by my teacher on top the link

What about it? What do you want to say? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 04:59, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

i dont get it

this site post to help. it saids missings owrds or grammers mistkaes

please try it out

Yeah, I don't think it works. They always say no mistake detected. I don't think it works. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:04, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

ok no more FireTerryTiger (talk) 05:12, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

Hey Lighting how are you

yesterday i was trying to lure animals in my backyard so i left bread and my cat was on porch to see if any animal will come

its been siting their the bread for two hours then my cat was acting strange looking  outside then i see a large rat or large feild mice taking bread i let my cat out he rn full speed to get that rodent it was gone

we couldnt find it at all lolFireTerryTiger (talk) 12:36, April 19, 2015 (UTC)

Good to hear that you play with animals! Also if you want to tell me something new, then please make another section on this page for me to keep up with it. Have a nice day :) Lightning the Skrill (talk) 12:58, April 19, 2015 (UTC)

Icebane
Hello! I know you're all about Skrills, they're one of my favorites too, buit don't you think you're over analyzing Icebane a bit.

Yes, it migt live in colder regions, due to it's name, but I think that's just about it. So it's blue, that doesn't mean it affects where it lives. Dragons come in all kinds of different colors. Plus, you say it's stronger than a regular Skrill. Well it's unique, and ALL unique dragons are stronger in RIse of Berk. NightFuryLover31 (talk) 19:39, March 9, 2015 (UTC)

Well, the "lego toys" said Arctic Skrill and it is blue and Rise of Berk said that they are the same. So Icebane is an Arctic Skrill and lives in the Arctic. Persumbly at least. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:09, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

Lightning the Skrill, can you please not keep editing that the groncicle as it is no more plausible than a Night Fury or a Skrill or almost any other dragon, thanks

Whitelordwizard (talk) 16:08, March 16, 2015 (UTC)

Hei dude
Dude,whats up

Just about your infomation on the groncicle page. You stated that the groncicle is the least plausible dragon, however it is no more plausible than A night fury or a skrill. A night fury could never feesably fly or spit plasma. Infact all the dragons aren't feesable. So can we just agree on the fact that they all need some sort of supernaturall help. They are dragons, creatures of magic, after all.

Whitelordwizard (talk)

Even though dragons are fantasy, here we try to make them look into reality. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 06:40, March 17, 2015 (UTC)

Hi! I have read your message on my talk page... And yeah. Thx alot for your advice and suggestion. I'm always open to them. Thx! I'lll try to find ways to improve on it if possible.The Woolly Howl (talk) 14:04, March 21, 2015 (UTC)The Woolly Howl

QUESTION: WHY DID YOU DELETE BLAZE? -Snowyclaw

Skrill full body image
I'm not the one who find it but just posting this in case you haven't see it yet.

 OVERPOWERED99 |  HTTYD Wiki  |  Let's Talk!  |  I Contribute!  |  Read My Blogs!  | 02:50, 3-4-2015

Thanks anyways! Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:15, April 3, 2015 (UTC)

Hey
whats new

man im so sorry u dont have netflix

i dont have netflix either im bowwring from my cousin

u want my cousin account

it will be secert he gave it to me and my brother

Doesn't matter that I don't have Netflix. I know that I will find it on the internet. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 09:57, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

Oh sorry Its comming out soon on June 26 I can't wait I don't own netflix either that's why I ask my cousin to use their account to watch movies or tv shows I really wanted to help you out I'm so sorry How your hamster? I'm really excited we might find out the history of toothless and rival whispering death? This will be my maybe favorite epsode in the new seasons, I think everyone as well is really waited for this episode (FireTerryTiger (talk) 14:18, April 20, 2015 (UTC))

My Hamster is fine, thanks. Yes, both Race to the Edge and Jurassic World are coming up in June. Also, I doubt that we will see that relationship, I might be wrong, geez there are 52 episodes? Anyways, we might just see more new dragons, we might not even see the return of the Skrill :( But anyways it would still be awesome! Lightning the Skrill (talk) 14:20, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

Can you imagine the Skrill does return and Dagur became good like changing his ways once and for all that Hivcup gives him That Sheild and helps or Dagur manage to free that Skrill and tame it.

Nope, can't imagine that! XD But since the end of Defenders of Berk, I have always been thinking about the Skrill breaking out of it's glacier by... a storm? Then it would return and destroy Berk? Or something else. Maybe they would train it. Well that's all in my fanfiction. That would be majorly cool though. But it may not happen, hopefully we get to see that Skrill again at least. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 14:28, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

It bit funny that they go back to the glacier and see that skrill Snotlout and twins were making fun of it and twins are thinking breaking it out again because the love its destruction was awsome but Hiccup said leave it alone and leave for good. I can imagine that will happen lol (FireTerryTiger (talk) 14:34, April 20, 2015 (UTC))

That would be funny, and stupid. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 14:36, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

Oh sorry I didn't want you get upset about it was just joke

Don't worry about it. I wasn't upset. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 14:50, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

We finaly going to see how Stoick and Gobber got their dragons

I think two dragons are good friends before meeting their riders. Possible

I still wish Indiomus Rex was the hybrid of Trex, velceraptor, cuttlefish, and death serpert

Trex intellect is cat Velceraptor (jurrasic park version) smater then primeapes Cuttlefish is one of the most intellect

Trex jaw strength said to be around 6.5tons, strength able to lift 5tons, endurable, hunter, and sence of smell is high and binoculer vision.

Velceraptor in film abilities leap, speed, stamina, hunter, and acrobactic

Cuttlefish has camfluage and being aquatic so it can give the hybrid power to swim underwater to breath for certain period of time. With gripping tail to grab humans or use as whip. Three hearts to surrived three life's.

Snake for venom

This Hybrid will be either very powerful or extremly powerful not sure how to tell

If this was the hybrid made of what you were determin How powerful it could it have been?

I say extremly powerful.

You?

Uh, I just like to wait and see for my self. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 09:20, April 21, 2015 (UTC)

you saw the new trailer of Jurrasic world

looks like the Hybrid is being able to communcate the Velceraptors to join her side. Like the Red Death though it could be mostly fear the raptors listing too. I wish it has has the dna of Velceraptors makes more sence why they listing to her. FireTerryTiger (talk) 14:53, April 24, 2015 (UTC)

No, it's Ohem's Raptors communicating with the Wild Raptors, so the trained Raptors have to make a decision to follow Ohem or the Wild Raptors. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 02:24, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

i hope u are right

to me and my cosuin we think they are going to work for the large predator for fear of loyalty liek Alvin and Red Death but later Ohem is like Hiccup will conivnce them to turn good once again FireTerryTiger (talk) 04:49, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

It's because when the wild Raptors are seen, it was at night in a forest, and when the guy said that they are communicating, it was the same setting Lightning the Skrill (talk) 06:14, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

Are u sure those are the wild raptors not the tamed raptors.

They shown only 4 raptors. I like to know hybrid was able to get wild/tamed raptors on its side. It dosent have raptor DNA unless the director finaly got my twitter like reading. I also try do the same with the velcerator traniner. Putting velcerator DNA in the hybrid.

Make sence to become alpha of raptors.

Yes, I'm sure those are wild Raptors. And the Indominus being extremely aggressive, there is no way that it would communicate in such a quiet setting with weaker animals. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 14:29, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

r u sure?

how can u tell those are wild raptors they only four raptors we seen runnign in the dark forrest must be the main raptors that are train then possible become feral with other raptors

Maybe you should find out on Youtube. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 23:39, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

Whats new
did you do anything exctited

also find more info on Jurrasic World yet FireTerryTiger (talk) 03:25, May 2, 2015 (UTC)

Ha, nope, not really anything new. And nothing on Jurassic World yet! Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:44, May 2, 2015 (UTC)

Speed Stinger acid?
Where was the Speed Stinger shown to shoot acid? Is this from School of dragons?Neilandio (talk) 23:31, May 2, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it is from School of Dragons. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 00:29, May 3, 2015 (UTC)

Moldruffle page
I didn't add the exaduration on the Moldruffle page. Or I don't recall doing it...--Aang13 (talk) 16:35, May 15, 2015 (UTC)

I didn't say that it was you. It was someone else. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:28, May 16, 2015 (UTC)

Nadder Pic
That IS a Deadly Nadder! It has it's HTTYD2 design!

Look very carfully at Stormfly's from the sequel. She has three talons on the back, and even her pattern on her scales have changed.

I wouldn't have added that if I wasn't completely certain!

Yea, sorry. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 11:48, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

Jurrasic world Train Raptors are the bad raptors
their the bad ones that are goignt to attack the humans

sorry i did belive what you said but it was wrong

they must been to scared to fight the giant beast and they obey the Indimous rex FireTerryTiger (talk) 00:20, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

i found out on the web saying these are the same raptors that betray their Trainer

Yes, but what made them turn bad? It must be the wild Raptors, onestly, the Indominus is nothing to the Raptors. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 11:30, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

who knows

i kust knew it will be the train raptors that will become bad but unkown reason

I tweeted Dean Debliose
he answer me omg three tweets

Dean DeBlois ‏@ DeanDeBlois May 20 '''Thanks. I'm working on Dragon 3 now, the final act of the trilogy. After a decade of dragons, I'll be ready for something new :)'''

I think they should give you some rights. At least make you a Moderator. You're very active, and undo a lot of bad edits. You've been here for almost a year now. -- Annabeth and Percy ~The beauty you are when you open your heart and believe in the gift of a friend.  02:30, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

no im just lettting you what he told me FireTerryTiger (talk) 03:20, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

No, he's talking about me. hank you for thinking like that :) Lightning the Skrill (talk) 10:28, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

did u read tweet lolFireTerryTiger (talk) 14:11, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

did u read the tweet

Yes, some (famous) people tend to answer their "tweets". Lightning the Skrill (talk) 12:48, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

it was so cool

you should try to tweet him

Thanks for inviting, but I really have other things to do. Kinda getting into the busy period. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 13:30, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

just one tweet thats allFireTerryTiger (talk) 13:31, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Oh yea, one more thing, I don't use Twitter. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 13:32, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

(I'm not used to using talk pages I apologize if I mess up). About the random stats thing on the Tide Glider Page I found them at the very bottom of the page below the Draongs template. http://howtotrainyourdragon.wikia.com/wiki/Tide_Glider?diff=75607&oldid=75072

I didn't know what to do with them so I added them to the Infobox. I apologize if I wasn't supposed to do this. Unknown95 (talk) 19:31, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

Jurassic World
Lighting skrill i saw Jurraic world yesterday so basily im the first day making me the first of many peoole of yesterday to watch

it was so cool and awsoeme

I know, watched two days ago. Really Perfect! Lightning the Skrill (talk) 08:32, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Fanghook returns Art brown told me
on twitter

he also told me that the twins will have moe roles in next seaosn

Okay...Lightning the Skrill (talk) 02:49, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

i bet u knew did u

whats wrong with the abilities of Deathsong
i talk about their strength as they are able to lift heavy dragons such as Gronckles in their mouth as they can consume in mintues FireTerryTiger (talk) 02:33, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

I didn't undo your abilities edit. Check again. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:40, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

im so sorrry i was tryign to add more abilites of the Monstrous nightmare please for give me help me

lighting im so sorry

sorry, sorr, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry

please forgive me

who knew the females of monstrous nghtmare are able to call male to defedn their eggs from other males.FireTerryTiger (talk) 05:56, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

as shown by Hookfang gel is able to break free from Deathsong amber as shown in the third episode FireTerryTiger (talk) 05:58, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

First, can female Monstrous Nightmares call males? Is it confirmed? Also, I deleted the gel thing because all flame can break the amber subtance. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 06:04, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

YES the females can call males to defdn their eggs that dosent belongs to the males at all. Didnt u watch the new ones

Hiccup use the gel of Hookfang to relase everyone that was trap of amber yes this is true

hey did u read sorry for being so hasty to u my freind

I didn't watch it yet, if you mean the whole episodes. And did you mean the gel or the flamming gel? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 06:34, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

yes hookfang gel was used in third episode

thanks for your help

ny the way how are u and your hamster

You honestly don't need to chase me on that. XD But everything is fine. Thanks for asking, again. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 08:22, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

i didnt want to chase u

im was thanking u

It's called an exaggeration. Not literal. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 08:25, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

How to tell a dragon strength like powerful
im asking like how to tell a dragon strength?

Monstrous Nightmare are very powerful correct

how powerful is Gronckle i dont think their that strong?

Deadly nadder as well Dragodino123 (talk) 03:46, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

You can't exactly. You have to observe on how and what they do in the movie. And you can compare on how they fight with other dragons, especially how they fight, not really how they win. Also the lifestyle and shape of the dragon. For example, the Gronckle is more of a lazy than active dragon.

And also, are you FireTerryTiger? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:56, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

no why

sorry for bad grammerDragodino123 (talk) 07:20, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

Well you like the same things i.e. Monstrous Nightmare, Jurassic park. And your gramar is the same. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 08:03, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

Just wanted to say that your Username is awesome! PAIN,DARKNESS,VENGEANCE,RAGE,REVENGE,BAD AND EVIL! STAY NAUGHTY! 14:32, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

Death Song
i think its able to swallow prey instead of eating

Like monstrous nightmare said that can swallow a adult viking whole so Death Song long neck and large snout it might be able to swallow a prey instead of chewing Dragodino123 (talk) 05:16, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

Should be in the trivia. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:30, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

ok but do u think Death Song are able to swallow prey like medium size because it won't make sense if it was able to eat it like chewing unless its chews super fast under few minutes Dragodino123 (talk) 06:55, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

I think, it doesn't make much sense chewing and ripping, since there is no signs of blood, even if HTTYD doesn't use blood. But also doesn't make sense swallowing, Gronckles are really big, and I doubt that it is possible that the Death Song can swallow it whole down its throat in a few minutes. So to be honest, eating it slowly would make more senser, by chewing. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 07:34, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

but it ate it so fast to us watching it like few seconds but in their time under few minutes

so swallowing its prey is munch more sence becuase if u were that large of dragon i think u can swallow pretty fastDragodino123 (talk) 08:02, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

As the page mentioned, it might not have eaten it. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 08:04, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

Right, I'm pretty sure it would have swallowed it. Or at least broke the prey in half or what not. Cause if it doesn't eject flame, it can't break the amber substence. So pretty sure it swallows it, and it can eat amber (substance). Lightning the Skrill (talk) 12:45, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

yesi do belive im right about the swallowing

Thunderrums are physical strong dragons but a wild thunderdrum was no match for Death Song so thats good information

What do you mean? The Thunderdum is stronger or the Death Song is? If the Death Song is, that is not an ability. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:32, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Death Song is much stronger then Thunderdrum because it was able to defeated in very short fight by tail whip and jumos on the belly as it was easily overpowered. Death Song can lift heavy weight dragons in their mouth

That Thunderdrum didn't use it's roar, also thunderdrum can use it's tail as weapon too. Thorndrum (talk) 08:44, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Speed Stinger
I see we're gonna have a bit of a conflict of interests here.

The show said specifically that the trait was intrinsic to only that group of Speed Stingers (ignoring the fact that the webbing was only shown one time, and there was no webbing on the feet of the Stinger's at any other point.) and was proof of dragon evolution, in that a separate population of Speed Stingers had developed that unique trait.

Furthermore, one can only assume that Berk could have been attacked at any time by the Speed Stinger pack, but they waited for the ice bridge to form.

So let the debate begin.

Dinoman9877 (talk) 07:32, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

When did the show say that only that group? I already explained the DoB part on the page. If they water hopped to Berk, they would not know the path. And get lost. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 07:36, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

'''"wait u guys. Fishlegs said these are "particular speed stinger" were able to to have evolved to get 'wabbed' feet. So 'its' possible next few years other Speed Stingers were evolving as evolution does take some time.Dragodino123 (talk) 07:47, July 20, 2015 (UTC)  did u read 'this guys'??" did any one read this pleasse i beg of u Dragodino123 (talk) 08:25, July 20, 2015 (UTC)'''

1. I have no idea what that thing was with all the text. I posted my edit and that came up.

2. Telling me to 'get lost' is very rude. It's as if you have no real argument. If you're gonna be a constructive member, don't act like a heathen.

3. As Dragodino said, Fishlegs said 'that particular group'. Furthermore, the Speed Stingers could have found Berk with or without the ice bridge. The dragons in HTTYD have highly developed senses, as has been shown. An island full of vikings and livestock shouldn't be hard to sniff out. It wasn't, as the first movie showed.

4. The two packs could be completely different and have been separated for hundreds of generations. Adaptations don't appear in a species all at once, and they certainly don't develop in three years.

5. If you don't mind, I'm gonna go redo my edit now. Dinoman9877 (talk) 07:57, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

I didn't say you get lost, I said the Speed Stingers would get lost. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 07:58, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

I didn't say you get lost, I said the Speed Stingers would get lost. First of all, the dragons in the first film attacking Berk are much more individuals than the Speed Stinger pack. Then, water running from as far from their island to Berk would be extremely long. It took Toothless one whole night (nearly) to fly back to Berk from Johhan's ship. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 08:03, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

However, they were more than capable of running the whole way across a land bridge in that amount of time, as the Stingers got there before Hiccup and Toothless. And the dragons in the film are acting under the control of the Red Death, the Speed Stingers were just migrating or hunting. Regardless, the ones in Race to the Edge were able to track them all the way to Dragon's Edge, which appears to take multiple days, as the adolescent's leg had healed by the time they arrived.Dinoman9877 (talk) 08:08, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

I'll ask. In that case, Speed Stinger groups must be rare. As a few of these evolved into different packs. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 08:16, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

Skrill vs Monstrous nightmare
i was wondering who can win the fight?

Monstrous Nightmare abilities are very well and Skrill as well.

Monstrous Nightmare abilities of strength and endurable/durable is greater then Skrill to me. Skrill will use the advantage for speed and stamina but Monstrous Nightmare speed 16 but i not sure how fast is that real life is it liek over 100-350mph.

Skrills said to have great combat ability against nightfury as they can go to toe.

Monstorus Nightmare is far stronger than Skrill. FireTerryTiger (talk) 02:46, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Skrill. Why? First off, this is not a "land" battle. Which means the dragons are not fighting on land. Second, yes, the Monstrous Nightmare has more physical strength on its side (besides the Skrill being able to knock Stormfly away with just one wing). But they will be fighting in the air, as the Skrill would. So that strength woudn't be much use in the air. Third, the Skrill can either gravitate to storms, making the Monstous Nightmare follow, or it can somehow draw strorms to it, by increasing the electrical charges in the clouds. So the Monstrous Nightmare would have a big disadvantage by the Skrill using the clouds on its side. The Skrill can come and go unseen, as it blends in with the clouds, then strike as many times. Fourth, the Monstrous Nightmare as a shot limit, which makes it a disadvantage, as the Skrill can recharge its blasts from the clouds. Fifth, the Skrill is more intelligent, and will use that against the Monstrous Nightmare. So the Skrill will (as it did in the episode) block all weaknesses of it loosing. And the only way, well one of the only ways, the Monstrous Nightmare can win is that by pushing the Skrill in the water. But how will it know to do that without a human? It doesn't. So again, the Skrill will have a weakness removed. Sixth, electricity has a greater side than fire. Electricity can create fire, while fire can't do the opposite. I believe that the Skrill shoots graphene, which allows any possible way for the Skrill to fire lightning. Graphene is made of carbon, so it is a conductor. And where ever the graphene goes, the electrical trail will follow. But they tend to go in a straight line. So if the graphene is attracted to fire, or the Monstrous Nightmare itself, then it will blast the Monstrous Nightmare. And finally, seventh, the Skrill can take out more hits in battle. As many sources say, the Skrill will ALWAYS stay in battle. It is very presistant and relentless. So it will keep on  fighting. And iot has greater speed and stamina, so it could lead the Monstrous Nightmare on a chase, then tire it out, then strike.

And I completely disagree with you FireTerryTiger. I agree that the Skrill is weaker than the Monstrous Nightmare in physical strength, but not FAR weaker. Look at the episode! The Skrill just smashed Stormfly with one wing. And Stormfly is not small. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:03, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

i seen it.

but Stormfly was weighted under 1.5tons but Skrill going agianst 5,000lbs and length over 60ft so i think u will be right. FireTerryTiger (talk) 03:06, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

We CANNOT estimate the length or the weight. So please don't say 1.5 tons and all that, cause it's not confirmed. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:07, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

hey lighting so u finally believe me i was right about the dragon sizes. I been saying the sizes are wrong for long time thank u for beliving

lol. The Skrill owns, why? look in a time to Skrill 1 lightning bolt took out a Monstrous Nightmare. Winner Skrill, simple, its not even a challenge for the Skrill.

Monstrous Nightmare were able to take lighting bolt from Skrill and still able to fly lol

Flameterry (talk) 15:30, July 21, 2016 (UTC)

Flightmare stamina
the flightmare was shown to be able to chase its enemies and then it was getting chased by them as well FireTerryTiger (talk) 06:30, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Monstrous Nightmare abilites
so Female Monstrous Nightmare are able to use this distress call to call non mated males

That is not an ability Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:15, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

r u sure its seems more of ability to be use.

It's not an ability. For us, is calling for help an ability? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:46, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

but i put as ability for Girl Hookfang no one has comment it being wrong

No one noticed, or paid any attention. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:50, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

i just realized something about Monstrous Nightmare combat ability that Hookfang fought against Toothless once again this time Hiccup interfered the fight as Hookfang was a lot of pain by having a toothace he shows to be more battle against it so does this mean maybe Hookfang kind can fight longer than we think as Hiccup got scared seeing toothless to fight Hookfang though he was trying to stop this fight becuase he dosent want hookfang to get hurt?FireTerryTiger (talk) 01:36, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

Of course Hookfang could fight longer, but he might get really hurt then. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 02:08, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

so will the fight with Toothless could this mean the combat of Monstrous Nightmare be munch longer than we think. Maybe size Hookfang can fight off Nightfury bit longer brutal fight. They post to arive first and leave last so this mean Hookfang can fight off Toothleess but i could be wrong what do u think?

No, it means that Hookfang can keep on fighting Toothless. No guarantee at all that he would fight him off. And that's not combat, it's behavior. Combat is how they fight, behavior is how they think of fighting.Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:07, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

Who can win to the fight tot he death

Regular size Monstrous Nightmare like Hookfang vs Nightfury regular size such as Toothless

Titan Monstrous Nightmare vs Night Fury size of Toothless

How munch damage can the dragon do to the other if wins?

like broken bones or wounds!!!

i think Titan Monstrous Nightmare will win throwing away 5,000lbs Hookfang easily so I think Titan monstrous nightmare will win this fight but it will be great fight to see I bet to the death. Nightfury will do massive damage possible making Titan Nightmare incredible weak to fly FireTerryTiger (talk) 03:53, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

Night Fury, of course... will win. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 04:10, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

even aginast Titan Monstrous Nightmare will win its even bigger, and stronger FireTerryTiger (talk) 04:12, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

I don't know what you're talking about. But the Night Fury would win against a Titan winged Monstrous Nightmare as well. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 04:13, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

i mean Titan Monstrous Nightmare will win because its munch stronger and munch bigger so i think it will win by having long brutal fight FireTerryTiger (talk) 04:25, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

Still, a Night Fury has a WAY higher chance of winning. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 04:30, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

How do u know?

we seen the Titan Monstrous Nightmare is munch faster as it was able to catch up to Hookfang speed, was either endurable/durable to take many attacks, and higher stamina. Think about how will it use wing blast on the Night Fury it will be even way more powerful than young Monstrous Nightmare. If both use headbutt on each other the titan monstrous nightmare will throw night fury further away then 5,000lbs..FireTerryTiger (talk) 04:52, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

Think about it. If Hooking could beat it, how could a Night Fury not? Night Fury is was faster, smarter, has higher stamina, and of course, more agile, maneuverable and a smaller target.A Night Fury will absolutly not use a head but. And also, it is way more accurate. It can easily loose the Titan wing with speed and agility. And it is more stealthier. The Monstrous Nightmare's attacks would be easily dodged by the Night Fury. Night Fury's blasts are way more lethal. Also, a Night fury can shoot two or three blasts very quickly, so the titan winged Monstrous Nightmare would get hit three times. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 04:58, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

Btw, what do you mean "much faster"? Than a Night Fury or Hookfang? Hookfang, eh actually same speed. Night Fury, no chance. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 04:59, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

It was shown to be fast enough to catch up to Hookfang who was being trained for few years to increased his speed by Snotlout hard training. Titan monstrous Nightmare if hold the Night fury in its jaws it strength in it will do great damage if hold it like frenzy by having sharp teeth/fangs.

Also Titan wing monstrous was able to take two plasma blast and Barf&Belch attack as well. then multiple fire attacks from other Monstrous nightmares and crashing into objects as well.

Night Fury's lethal blast could knock a titan winged straight off the sky. How will the titan wing grab the Night Fury, if it is so manuverable, how will it even get close to it? See all your points make sense, but they just don't happen. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:12, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

If Nightfury does the same jumping that Toothless did on Hookfang by jumoing on his back like they fight in Vicking for Hire and the titan monstrous nightmare rolls and then grabs the night fury to do the frenzy and fire attacks as combination

We are talking Night Fury here, not Toothless. So again, tell me, why would a wild Night Fury let the titan wing get close to it? And the Night Fury will most likley fight in the air. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:19, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

Good point if Nightfury was eating on the ground from  eating fish lets just say a Titan Monstrous nightmare use the crocodile style to pop out of the water and grabs the Night fury on the neck to bring it down underwater to use the frenzy style it will do lethal damage on it and possibly killing it.

also nothing to do with this. But few monstrous nightmare shows when use Fire burst/jacket they can send a young vicking like the weight of Snotlout to fly off shows on gustav and astrid too.FireTerryTiger (talk) 05:26, July 25, 2015 (UTC) so what is it this part of the abilty of affect

Night Fury's are "sky" dragons. They spend most of their time in the tallest heights. So if they want to eat, they just come down, and grab the fish, then leave to the sky again. They won't hunt like a bird. For example, the Skrill is also a "sky" dragon. In the episode, it came to look for food, sheep. But it was unsuccessful, so it just flew into the sky again. It didn't hunt the sheep like a cat or something. It only revealed itself for a short while. And the Monstrous Nightmare thing like a crocodile, is too imaginary. Then we can have Nightfuries swimming like a shark... Lightning the Skrill (talk) 11:51, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

soory about that i thought it will be triviaDinowolf56 (talk) 06:07, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

Hey lighting Skrill do u mind checking how i did on the abilities it must be true as we seen in the showsFireTerryTiger (talk) 07:36, August 4, 2015 (UTC)

Abilities
Night terrors flying together isnt really ability its more like Colony

The word colony is a noun. It's not an action. The Night Terror's ability of colony... see doesn't make sense. Flying together makes sense. And plus, they have been described as flock, not colony. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 01:12, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

i thought it make more sense because bats personality of this dragon is very close lol

please forgive me FireTerryTiger (talk) 01:21, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

i was wondering can u help me make Jurassic wolf page
you can be administer so far i only started trex page please help Dinowolf56 (talk) 18:52, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

so what do u say Dinowolf56 (talk) 15:21, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Stop
Stop changing what I have done, idiot! Get lost.

No, if you continue to vandalize the wiki, you. get. lost. That is very rude. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 15:31, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

me vandalize

i just added wing span of Death Song 85ft

Not you. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 15:33, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

whoDinowolf56 (talk) 15:34, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

who

Fuck off. You get lost.

u said not me before Dinowolf56 (talk) 03:20, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

This is getting wild. The wiki is not up to swearing at all, so no one will be on your side. What are you going to do about it? What is your problem? This isn't acceptable. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:34, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

what did i say

i never swear at u when did i say it

i think u got the wrong guy lol

For the last time, I wasn't talking to you! Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:36, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

so who are u speaking to tehn it sounds like me

i really feel guiltyDinowolf56 (talk) 03:37, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

Jurassic world wika
i was wondering can  you help me make Jurassic world Wikia im trying its too hard

im not that brilliant as you are can you please help me Dinowolf56 (talk) 06:09, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

I'm really sorry, but I can't. As much as I am active here, it takes years to make a good wiki. And like toothless said, you would be better off sticking to the Jurassic park wiki, if they are missing information, just tell them. Even with a vast community, it still takes ages to make the wiki good. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 07:32, July 27, 2015 (UTC)


 * please can u look at it
 * (Dinowolf56 (talk) 07
 * 33, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * 33, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

hey read this
Different evolution paths if the dragons therealsven answered: Different evolution paths if the dragons

what do u mean by your response it dosenr make sence

Speed stingers in defnders of nerk didnt have wabbed feet  but race to the edge shows this ability for these speed stingers do all speed stingers have this ability or not It makes perfect sense, you are operating under the assumption that all dragons of a certain type are exactly the same. This is not true for animals in the wild, and it is not true for Dragons. Now of course I am speaking hypothetically since Dragons are fictional, but in this case, it is easy to see that Speed Stingers have most likely developed different abilities and adaptations depending on where they are from. This could be said for any species of dragon.



Okay, I know that. What are you looking for? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:09, July 31, 2015 (UTC)

how did u knowDinowolf56 (talk) 05:10, July 31, 2015 (UTC)

That's what the episode says, like that.. And really why do you have to switch accounts? I am 99 percent sure that you two are the same. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:12, July 31, 2015 (UTC)

what r u talking about two accounts

Astrid and Hiccup Relationship Page
I disagree with the deletion of the Astrid and Hiccup Relationship page. For major relationships like Astrid and Hiccup's relationship a separate page is the most concise, accurate, and organized way to handle such a thing.

Take a look at the main pages. The relationship information is pretty much duplicated on both pages, and if anyone wants to add, delete, or edit any information on their relationship it has to be done to both pages. This is simply a source of possible confusion and contradiction. Not to mention a waste of time and space.

Having a single relationship page also allows for better coverage of the relationship since it will allow for a much more in-depth coverage of the relationship. Which, would be cumbersome and cluttering on the main page.

This was how Kim and Ron's relationship was handled not the Kim Possible Wiki page and it worked very well.

I think that the page needs to be fleshed out and then linked into the main pages for Astrid and Hiccup.

Mknopp (talk) 02:33, August 1, 2015 (UTC)

Hi! Just wanted to let you know that I have a new ask page on my blog! Hiccup Haddock III (talk) 07:38, August 2, 2015 (UTC)

hey lightning umm i kinda dont like u deleting what i write about the dragons and what i just put about the red death thats true and besides i know just about how to train your dragon as u do so please stop deleting what i writeDragonrider12345 (talk) 03:07, August 3, 2015 (UTC)dragonrider12345

stop please
can u stop deleting what i write please and i put alot of accurate stuff on those pages especially the dragons and so please stop lightning the skrill and based off some of ur dragon related awnsers to dragon related questions some are not correct and i possibly no more about how to train your dragon than u so please stopDragonrider12345 (talk) 03:18, August 3, 2015 (UTC)dragonrider12345

Look, I have reason to believe that your edits are not good. Your edits to the episode pages clearly mess up here. And the Red Death page, that isn't a weakness for the last time. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:30, August 3, 2015 (UTC)

really my edits are not good what i put about the skrills lightning blasts degates toothless,s plasma blast is naturally true u just deleted it and the snow wraith i was just stating how the snow wraith attacks are like are like night fury attacks and u deleted that and if what i put about the red death isnt a weakness then what is it then and now stop ur not the only one who knows about how to train your dragon Dragonrider12345 (talk) 20:40, August 3, 2015 (UTC)dragonrider12345

I did not delete the first one, the Snow Wraith doesn't attack like the Night Fury, that info is stated otherwise on another section. The Red Death's weakness is not unique, it can be used on other dragons with gases, so it is not a unique weakness, which means it shouldn't be added there otherwise every page would have eels eels! That's all, and don't talk like that, I know what this is and sometimes you stated the obvious or stated it twice. Watch it! Lightning the Skrill (talk) 02:07, August 4, 2015 (UTC)

Ok, also the Skrill is and electrical dragon. Not according to legend, I mean yes according to legend, but if that is said, then the Skrill is not an electrical dragon in its real self. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 02:10, August 4, 2015 (UTC)

ok ok what im just trying to state here is mabey let me write what i think and mabey u could stop changeing it because u think its wrong but ok if i edit something else on site before u delete it could u tell me why its wrong and mabey we could work something out and the stuff i said  a little earlier i was just a little mad and the snow wraith and night fury i was comparing them but if u dont think its accurate its cool i will just try to write something thats accurate i guess and probably not just what i think and last im now just trying to make peaceDragonrider12345 (talk) 15:08, August 4, 2015 (UTC)dragonrider12345

Ice Hibernation
its being explain in the abilities section so it should be ok FireTerryTiger (talk) 03:39, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

In the infobox, we want to state in detail, for example, we don't put absorbing electricity there, yet we put it in the abilities section. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:44, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

oh. can u please check how i did with Night fury abilities section please FireTerryTiger (talk) 03:45, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

New section of Monstrous Nightmare
Sizes

We have picture of eggs, baby, young Monstrous nIghtmare, older monstrous nightmare, and titan monstrous Nightmare so why not make growth stages sizes section FireTerryTiger (talk) 02:24, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

ill get staterd u tell me what u think

It's not a good idea just to put a whole new section for the sizes, so don't, lots of other dragons have different sizes, so please don't add a new section. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 02:36, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

shouldnt we put a picture at least like eggs, baby, young Nightmare, older nightmare, and titan monstrous nightamre at least

Toothless echolocation heat signature
Hi, Lightning the Skrill, I noticed that you removed my edit that a night fury sound wave used for echolocation has the same heat signature as the night fury itself. This is fine but I just wanted to let you know that it is true. If you re watch Dragon's Eye of the beholder part two when toothless uses that power to find the snow wraith, to the snow wraith the waves, toothless, and hiccup all had the same temperature. If you would like to continue this discussion, I would be more than obliged but until then I'll just leave you with this to think about.

Sincerely, your friend (or associate), Anagues Pendrahon

It was right, but it isn't needed information. As I said in the summary, the heat waves are plasma (or fire) in sonic waves of sound. So the the heat of the plasma is the same as Toothless' body heat, because all the fire in him.. is about to be ejected. which means there is the same heat of fire in him and as the plasma is released, the same heat is released, so no point of stating that. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 14:23, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

Traveling Islands
i was wondering the dragon riders were traveling many hours in the sky to find islands as their are exhausted to fly then dragons wanted to go to Death Song Island

They found new island called it Dragon Edge its more in the middle for new islands

It dosent make scence in HTTYD 2 movie it took Hiccup possible few mintues to be near Valka Beilderbeast home

Astrid on Stormyfly took possible mintues or more to catch up Hiccup an dToothless new island Itchy armpit

do u know what i mean

its seems munch less then we think as Dragons riders left berk to find new islands as they Find Death Song almost a day to find it FireTerryTiger (talk) 05:52, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, it doesn't really make sense. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 07:30, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

i explain again

they found new island of death song over a day while Itchy armpit took under hour possible or maybe a way less as Astrid took possible munch less i think FireTerryTiger (talk) 07:34, August 9, 2015 (UTC)

do u understand

do u understand FireTerryTiger (talk) 04:57, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

well to awnser ur question about how long it took hiccup and toothless to reach valka and her bewilderbeast nest hiccup toothless and the other dragon riders and stoick and gobber were with eret and the other dragon trappers so they were already pretty far away from berk and only probably a few miles from the artic and where valka is and at toothless,s flight speed it probably did only take them a few minutes only to get theirDragonrider12345 (talk) 20:50, August 20, 2015 (UTC)dragonrider12345

hey uhh dude i did,t change the gallery i was trying to add to itDragonrider12345 (talk) 15:23, August 30, 2015 (UTC)dragonrider12345

Yeah, but you did delete the gallery during your, process.. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 15:24, August 30, 2015 (UTC)

ok that last one i did that but did not mean too and the one before that i was trying to add somethingDragonrider12345 (talk) 15:28, August 30, 2015 (UTC)dragonrider12345



Flightmare
Well, it truly resembles to a flightmare. However,  it's -like how I said- a boneknapper. Thorndrum (talk) 21:08, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

mr.lighting Skrill
I was wondering can you help me with my wika?

i will make you admin if u are great

Can u help me with my wika please
i need help please ill make u adminster please we need help please

http://jurrassic-wolrd.wikia.com/wiki/Indominus_rex

PLEASE

SorryBarf/Belch Toothless strength
Sorry Toothless was shown to be able to lift Hookfang with Snoutlout with little struggle and shown to be able lift Barf/Belch as well.Dinowolf56 (talk) 14:14, January 10, 2016 (UTC)

Distress single is skill
They must have learn this from their owners. its a skill

It's like calling or shouting for help is a skill. Which is not. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 14:20, January 10, 2016 (UTC)

But if this dragon was wild they wouldn't non able to know this? Meaning it's a skill. As the other riders didnt knew that sign means yes they will have check it out but the owner of the dragon knows what it means. meaning a skillDinowolf56 (talk) 14:30, January 10, 2016 (UTC)

If you want to put very simple skills, then put flying up there. Flying and running are skills. A distress signal is either put in intelligence, but nearly every dragon can do, or firepower, because it uses its explosions. But they have to skill to fire explosions so there is no point saying that. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 14:41, January 10, 2016 (UTC)

Flying and running is abilities. Flying is ability and running is speed meaning abilities. I have good friend helps me out for difference he can help he Movie Critic he knows so munch of powers and abilities then u and i don't know that munch. He extremely intelligent.

He the one who told me that humans, animals, and everything are durable. Thats why i add durable to Monstrous Nightmare as its true. Which every dragon or humans are durable

Gothi's Frostfright
I've asked Rise of Berk if Gothi's Frostfright is the same Snow Wraith that the riders encountered in Dragon Eye of the Beholder Part II, and they confirmed that it is the same dragon.

Here is the proof.NarendraMartosudarmo (talk) 14:55, January 10, 2016 (UTC)

Maybe, but I still think they aren't totally reliable. I know they are working with DreamWorks, or something, but they don't really match. I have othere reasons if you want to hear them. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 11:28, January 11, 2016 (UTC)

I was told my expert of movies and life
Durable and endurance

these are all dffernet

everything of living things have durable

dragons, humans, and animals or dinosaurs, and more.

<span style="font-family:'HelveticaNeue',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">durability is what one can withstand physically.

<span style="font-family:'HelveticaNeue',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">endurance often reflects on what someone can withstand mentally (like pain

<span style="font-family:'HelveticaNeue',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Dinowolf56 (talk) 09:37, January 12, 2016 (UTC)

<span style="font-family:'HelveticaNeue',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Durability and endurance are the same. Durability means '''the ability to endure. '''Lightning the Skrill (talk) 10:13, January 12, 2016 (UTC)

<span style="font-family:'HelveticaNeue',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">no

<span style="color:rgb(68,75,81);font-family:'MuseoSans300',Arial;font-size:16px;">In metallurgy and materials science, durability is the measurement of an object's fracture toughness used to determine the level of stress the object is able to withstand. Durability calculation is applicable to various items such as chemicals, civil and mechanical engineering or commerce, and the applications vary. Calculating the original and the current performance gives an item its true worth. It is essential to know how your object operates in order to analyze and calculate its durability.

<span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Durable means able to withstand a hit like deadly nadder<span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;"> able to take that attack from Stoick<span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;"> in the first film

<span style="font-family:'HelveticaNeue',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Endurance is taking attacks from fighting each other

Hey Lighting
I was wondering how are you feeling? how your hamster and your family?

we haven't chat for while so making sure u were ok

i miss talking to u

we were such good friends

My cat was in hospital he had huge problems with stomach but now all good

he was out side at night and eaten something that was poison for the animals that were around luck we got to him to the hospital in time he doing well

this new season was great but i was hoping to see Grump

Hi. I'm doing good, I'm in the middle of my exams right now. Glad to hear about everything's fine. My hamster passed in October.. Anyways the new season was great and I was very satisfied. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 12:55, January 16, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry about hamster how old was he?

I thought it was awosme to see Screaming Death and Skrill again but Screaming death seems to forgot or possible far to aggressive to protect of his home from enemies or friends

did u read about my ca being sicktFireTerryTiger (talk) 14:05, January 16, 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I read about it. That's why I said "Glad to hear everything's fine". And my hamster was approximatly 2 years. So it's the full life span :) Lightning the Skrill (talk) 14:12, January 16, 2016 (UTC)

thank u about my cat

and i thought hamster live 4yrs sucha short life not fair for hamster should lived 20yrs

Different species' age ranges, but hamsters do not live 4 years. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 14:33, January 16, 2016 (UTC)

True. How long do u think the dragons can live for? Toothles is 20yrs old but how long can he live. but when will we learn actual ages

I ask Brook CHamlers on Tumblr he been answering me a lot

if u have question ill ask him for u

So what did u think of Jurassic world movie it was awosme

love Rexy and Blue team up

Mosasaurus is 72ft long far too big then average a they belived they can reach 60ft long

Rexy fight was to be accurte battle as real t.rex can do the same fighting style as some dino experts belives

Dragons about 40 -100 years, depending on size. And of course big ones like the Red Death, Bewilderbeast, Screaming Death live up to 150 - 200 years. That's what seems logical to me. Jurassic World's Mosasaur was bigger than a Blue Whale. So over 100 ft. But why are we talking about Jurassic World, it happened last year a long time ago... Lightning the Skrill (talk) 14:46, January 16, 2016 (UTC)

u think so thats thier lifespan seems too cool

Yah i know love that film thats why lol what your favorite scene

Also Colin trevverow said it was 72ft on twitter last year

Body ratio to a Great White Shark, it's over a hundred feet. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 15:12, January 16, 2016 (UTC)

it was comfiremd by colin treverow he told fans that ti was 72ft long While the Velociraptors in this franchise are infamously and inaccurately much bigger than the turkey-sized (and feathered) real Velociraptor was, the size of the Mosasaurus was also considerably increased for the film. The filmmakers report the Mosasaurus measures just over 72 feet long, while the largest of this type of marine reptile reached about 59 feet in length. This was probably to make the Mosasaurus' defeat of the Indomimus Rex at the finale of the film more feasible.

Hey Skrill

When will we see Gobber get his dragon next season i wonder what will this dragon do like being bad like protecting his terriory or his herd comes to The Edge or Fishlegs goes to Dark Deep finds new dragons on this island?

Gobber maybe he always wanted a dragon for himself seeing everyone with dragons being alone?FireTerryTiger (talk) 10:59, January 19, 2016 (UTC)

Hey, I'm not DreamWorks! So I don't know. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 11:09, January 19, 2016 (UTC)

I mean when do u think like guess sorry lolFireTerryTiger (talk) 00:09, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

i was wondering Snow Wrath ability said can whistand snowstrom but  dont most dragons can withstand snowstorms we never really see dragon cold, the humans have shown it not dragons

I know, I was at fault. I wrote that earlier. It was supossed to mean that it can adapt and feel comfortable with the storm. I couldn't think of any other words. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 15:23, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

and also it has the ability of camouflaging

FireTerryTiger (talk) 18:50, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

I removed camofluge because, 1, it was in speed and stealth, 2 because it is not an ability, it is an apperance type. It also applies to stealth. Like the Night Fury it doesn't need a section. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:23, January 21, 2016 (UTC)

do u think so??

Lighting do u think soFireTerryTiger (talk) 01:05, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

Also im trying to echnace my cat stamina i was given few ideas hope it works

I was told stair case will help like running up and down is great way what do u think?FireTerryTiger (talk) 01:07, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

So Lighting Skrill, whats new in your life anything how family doing.

My step dad is going away to see his sister in Florida she in the hospital she might had Brass Cancer? But my step dad she goign to fine by the doctor FireTerryTiger (talk) 01:44, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, again good to hear everything is well. But to be honest you really do not need to tell me all your personal stuff about your family. It's just because I don't know them. Byt he way, it's breast cancer? But I really didn't need to know that. Anyways, again good to hear everything is fine. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 15:50, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

ok sorry

im glad everyone is good

hey i was wondering do u have any ideas for stamina enhancement im trying to help my cat to gain i use stair case u think it will work.FireTerryTiger (talk) 15:53, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

Oh i thought they were talking about the show not games, the Snow Wrath and the Whooly Howl are the only two never got shot well we still didnt see the Whooly Howl yet FireTerryTiger (talk) 14:01, February 1, 2016 (UTC)

I was talking about the show. But by franchise, it means the movies, shorts, series and games. I said 'seen", which means seen in the media. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 14:15, February 1, 2016 (UTC)

it possible adaptable or cold Immunity maybe this could be possible for the Snow Wraith this will make sense able to live the icy island FireTerryTiger (talk) 12:36, January 21, 2016 (UTC)

The Snow Wraith simply adapts to the type of conditions. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 14:42, February 1, 2016 (UTC)

i was wondering will  ever keep cat as pet? They greats pets u could think as them as tiny Night Fury lol

my cat gives me presents FireTerryTiger (talk) 15:21, February 1, 2016 (UTC)

Hey Polar Bears may not hibernate but they can take long naps lol.FireTerryTiger (talk) 20:57, February 8, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, Polar Bears don't "hibernate," but that's still the same topic. Only very little arctic animals hiberante. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 01:49, February 9, 2016 (UTC)

Monstrous Nightmare has Jaw expanding ability which was true very cool. U know its true the abilities i put down right?FireTerryTiger (talk) 02:39, February 12, 2016 (UTC)

Also the travling to diffrent islands at the first two episodes have shown the dragons were very exhausted to fly. But now the dragons have shown not to be exhausted at all what exactly happen is it thier stamina has been increased or the creators have forgotten.

Skrill's Speed
Hey Lightning, I just wanted to talk with you about the Skrill's speed stats. Why do you say it's inaccurate? What's wrong with 11 and 19? 11 is the Skrill's basic speed (don't be mad, but with that speed, it's truly the slowest Strike class dragon), and 19 is their maximal speed. I know, it seems to be inaccurate, but we can't do anything against it, because, well, its offical... I mean, Dean and his team decided it's speed to be 11, then we can't say it's not true, or wrong. The same with Speed Stingers, why do you say their speed can't be 30? Maybe the one we saw fightning Toothless wasn't running at full speed. (But there are dragons with inaccurate speeds, like the Scauldron, it was shown to be able to swim with the same speed as the Seashocker, or the Thunderdrum, the Death Song chased it, but couldn't catch it (Death Song's speed is 16)).

Well, the only thing I really wanted to say is that maybe Toothless wasn't flying with his full speed when the Skrill was chasing them, so maybe 11 is an accurate speed. Thorndrum (talk) 12:53, January 17, 2016 (UTC)

I think some of the stats are inaccurate. Example the Speed Stingers. It shouldn't be speed 30 because it hasn't shown to be faster than a Night Fury, flying to running ratio. Night Furies can fly way faster. Also, their stealth. It's pretty impressive. But they can't really be very stealthy without the right amount of haze or fog. Even though their very stealthy, they are not as stealthy as the Changewing, for example. Same with the Snow Wraith, I know its camofluge and that the snowstorm disables you to see and makes you very cold, but I still think Changewings are stealthier. I mean.

Then the Skrill, I honestly don't care if its speed is 11, but by statistics it is slower. But that's not what we see in the show. When the Skrill was chasing Hiccup and Toothless, it kept right behind. Its speed angle was also very fast. Then, when they were chasing the Skrill, it also kept ahead of them. Now we know that the Skrill can literally ride lightning. Which looks almost as fast as the speed of light. Their speed should be more like 30. 19 might be an average. But I don't know about 11. Also, I'm pretty sure Dean didn't decide on the stats. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 13:43, January 17, 2016 (UTC)

Actually dude when ever the Skrill was not riding lightning if you recall you would notice that Hiccup wanted the Skrill to follow them so he instructed Toothless to go at a speed which the Skrill can keep up with. He said stuff like We need him to follow us and keep him close but not to close, so there. Yes I agree there are errors on the official stat page and I also agree according to the Show the Skrill is the fastest dragon (this is also supported in Hunterbolt's description) but without riding lightning its not the second fastest dragons like the Snow Wraith, Wooly Howl and Razorwhip are all the second fastest dragons. (Dragonfan786123)

Also, as I think Lightning's favorite dragon is the Skrill, of coure he wants it to be super fast. He can't deal with the fact that Skrill is a normally slow dragon, and it's speed is just 11 (that's it, you can't change it, whatever you do). And just like how Dragonfan786123 said, Toothless was flying with a speed enough for the Skrill to be able to catch up with them. They were likely flying with a speed of 80 mph (maybe not, but that's Toothless' average speed) Thorndrum (talk) 18:39, January 17, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah I know right he I sort of figured he would support the Skrill in anyway he can. At least someone agrees with me (Thorndrum). In all honesty the Skrill is actually my favourite dragon to, it may not seem like it but it is, but at least I know what the Skrill's limits are. By the way Thorndrum I would like to point out that there are some errors on the offical website, just getting that out there, for example it says the Snow Wraith is stealthier than a Changewing, which as we know is not true. But we all must admit that the Skrill DID in fact probably reach the highest speed of any dragon we have seen, when it rode lightning of course, BTW Thorndrum have you seen RTTE by any chance.

First off, Hiccup and Toothless in the first minute were running away from the Skrill. At the last point, he said we need to loose him. And that was what he was trying to do. Until he found another way. Also, in Part 1, when Hiccup said ''this is bad. This is worse..'' there was no reason why he wouldn't outfly the Skrill if the Night Fury was over significantly faster than the Skrill. Again, in Part 2, when the Skrill was chasing Toothless through the Glacier, the Skrill was equally as fast. It was just a few seconds away.

Anyway, the saying keep him close but not too close is saying that the Night Fury is faster than the Skrill. Which is clearly shown, even though the stats are 11 or 19, 20 is higher than 19. So of course the Night Fury can travel faster. It can't lose the Skrill, it can only fly as far and fast until the Skrill has no interest because it fell behind. The Night Fury is faster, the Skrill is slightly slower, they both have similar stamina. So it would be logical for Toothless to slowly go faster than the Skrill. Doesn't it?

Let me rephrase. The Skrill has shown in every chase to be much faster than 11. The only other reliable source CN, which says that 19 on lightning, is kind of impossible to make sense. In A Time to Skrill, the Skrill rode lightning. From the ground to the clouds. Bear in mind that the glacier it was on was not ground level, because it was significantly higher than the sea. So it reached the clouds in one or two seconds. One second, if you count onscreen. But I don't think that is possible because, if it is one second, the Skrill was basically traveling at the speed of light. Which is one second anywhere from thousands of feet. That's how fast lightning travels. If the stats were supremely accurate, which they are not, and if the Night Furies top is 20, the Skrill on lightning would be more like 80. That's just an estimate because the speed of light is 900 000 times to that of sound. But I clearly think that no life can withstand that fast. So 2 seconds is more realistic. But that's just my theory, if the Skrill can withstand the speed of light then. But all this is talking about if the stats were accurate. CN says supersonic speeds, and that is clearly over supersonic, I mean on lightning. That would be minus subliminal to be more accurate. So there you go. The stats are still inaccurate. Of course I can't change them. Another example, the Flightmare. Seems definitely more accurate to have a higher speed than 8.

Plus, the Skrill is not my favorite dragon, the Night Fury is, if you haven't, it's on my profile. Also, we have no way to say that the Woolly Howl would be as fast as the Snow Wraith. Up until now there are no stats for the Woolly Howl. Can't speculate. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 07:55, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

Lol the Woolly Howl has stats on SoD and the speed is equal to that of the Snow wraith and it also proves to us the the Woolly Howl has a Shot limit of 6, so...

Stats of School of Dragons are irrelevent. They are different. Though they do corret some inaccuracies, pointing out the Flightmare. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 15:15, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

Ths Shot limits aren't irrelevent, they cant publish those without dreamworks permission

The stats are irrelevent to the stats given by the official website. Because they are different. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 15:47, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

Well, SoD uses the same speed scale as Dreamworks, but they only go up to 10 Thorndrum (talk) 16:01, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

Exactly! (Thorndrum). (Dragonfan786123)

No, I mean the stats are meant to be accurate, and they were aligned to a scale up to ten. Thorndrum (talk) 21:20, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

...what? I know thats what you meant, I was agreeing with you (agreeing with Thorndrum). (Dragonfan786123)

...which means the Skrill isw as fast as the Snow Wraith. Make a point. They are different, some are contradicting each other. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 04:09, January 19, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah whats wrong with the Snow Wraith being as fast as the skrill.

Isn't my question supposed to be, What's wrong with the Skrill being as fast as the Snow Wraith? Isn't talking about the Skrill being way slower the point of this argument? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 02:17, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

Mind if I join in? Anyway, I think I'm going to have to support Lightning on this one. School of Dragons cannot really be taken as a reliable source and is pretty irrelevant, for as accurate as they want their facts and statistics to be, keep in mind it is a game. Each dragon must be balanced in their stats since there is a racing game mode, so SoD cannot really be used as a source. Also, Dreamworks has always had innaccurate statistics, just look at the size charts. The stats are mostly there to get a general idea of the dragon, but while close they aren't always fully accurate. Remember these statistics were meant to be recorded by the Vikings, so it is unlikely they can get a firm numerical value in applying it to a statistic. Taking life very seriously, StaticTheSkrill (talk) 11:40, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

lol balanced? the Snow Wraith is so OP in the game. Okay your point is Toothless and the Skrill are at a similar pace while in normal flight and Stormfly was only able to catch up because she ate chicken right? Please explain how barf & belch were able to fly what was seemingly at the same speed as the Skrill,oh let me guess...they ate something to?.

If you're talking to me. Barf and Belch could logically, and I'm talking the logical explaination because there are mistakes in movies and TV, but they could move away from the Skrill because it was charging up its blast. Or preparing to fire. This slows the Skrill down, because its blast is the one moving. Stormfly had inaccuracies. In RoB even she could out fly Toothless at a certain point. And the only, only logical explanation was that the Skrill was flying for the whole night, and day, as well as being attacked by Toothless, chased in circles, in straight lines, and so on. The Skrill was heard breathing heavily, I think, so it must have been at least a little tired, even though it has very good stamina, and as description says it puts up everything it has in a fight, sometimes getting a boost to fly faster is tiring, or takes time, and the Skrill was trying to avoid Stormfly's and Toothless' blast at the same time.

Oh, and also, I have re-watched the deflection of plasma blast thing, and it's niot only engulfing in electricity, but it relates more to absorbing electricity. And it should be named something else, but I'll change that tomorrow. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 15:52, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

What are you talking about? The Skrill clearly deflected the blast with its wings, thats is different to blasting Toothless's plasma blast.

i once ask this question as well with Lighting Skrill he made good points about this that the Skrill is able to do this because being Electric dragon so its very easily for this dragon to do this. But it also shown to reflected. So it could be Plasma Blast Reflector Wing. FireTerryTiger (talk) 19:46, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

Anyways, look, that statistics are simply there to fill in info on the dragons and give people a general idea of each dragons general statistics. Just like how every human is different, every individual dragon is too. Some could be fatter than others, have slightly larger wings than others, or longer legs. All these factors can affect a dragons speed and statistics. Besides, remember that this is a TV SHOW, and such for the sake of the scene, things cannot be accurate, and thus cannot base statistics based off a scene which appeared to negate the ones posted by Dreamworks. Additionally, have you thought of the fact that these statistics for the original dragons from the first film mentioned, such as the Skrill, were made back then, without the thought it would be in a TV series. Taking life very seriously, StaticTheSkrill (talk) 23:12, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

To Dragonfan, I uploaded a new section and new image to the Skrill's abilities. And removed the old one. Everything I wrote is completely accurate to the show, I did not use science or speculation or anything else to write it. Whether or not you saw what looks like a force field or not, that is the fact now. I've rewatched that scene many times tio have accurate information, and I've paused on right times to get images. I've also analysed it very carefully, so it was clearly deflecting with its wings. So please do not make major changes to it unless you think something else.

To Static, I completely agree with what you said about an individual being different. And I have never thought of that before. So yeah, maybe we all have been so single-minded about the stats. Anyway, yes the TV shows had inaccuracies, but however, you said that the stats were made from the first film, which I cannot recall any stats from HTTYD or the Book of Dragons of the Skrill. Which means the stats were made in DoB, or even in RoB, where the Skrill was originally set to appear. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 05:31, January 21, 2016 (UTC)

Interesting I like the Idea of an electric field better anyways, nice. Yes I have said it before I do beleive there are a tone of stat inaccuracies, the only stats which im willing to accept is Shot limit at the moment, since thats the only one which is always being reinforced. However static when it comes to dragons the writers did not make each dragon of a species majorly different (apart from being titan wings, and colour) they kept true to the statistics more than anything although they may have changed the stats of a species of dragon but not uploaded it onto dragonpedia. (Dragonfan786123)

whoops, i wanted to say "it wasn't clearly deflecting...." instead of was. But nevermind. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 15:43, January 21, 2016 (UTC)

looks more like ReflectedDinowolf56 (talk) 18:30, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

The statistics were never mentioned in the films or shorts,but they were revealed in a special feature within the BoD disc. Also I'd say that the electric field is more like a lightning barrier. It DIFFUSED the plasma blast. :) Taking life very seriously, StaticTheSkrill (talk) 21:48, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

that makes sense and was it hidden ability or special Dinowolf56 (talk) 22:17, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

Those were the old stats, there is some sort of new system but the old dragons have not been updated with it or any upgrades needed according to the Show, IDK why. Dragonfan786123.

The electrical field is also similar to the Seashocker's one. So are you saying that the field can only "diffuse" plasma blasts from the Night Fury? Because they both have elctrical charges? It can't deflect other projectiles or things? But anyways, I wouldn't call it diffuse. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 11:31, February 1, 2016 (UTC)

Jurassic World Wika
Hi-lighting Skrill i was wondering wil you join my wika

Could you i need help i will make you administer i think your skills is relaly great please could you help please could you just look at my wika

I'll do anything http://jurrassic-wolrd.wikia.com/wiki/Indominus_rex

Sand Wraith
I don't think that the Desert Wraith and the new Sweet Wraith are subspecies. They are just varieties of the Sand Wratih. There has since been many exclusive dragons added to Rise of Berk, such as the Leafy Snaptrapper and the Frozen Groncile. They are seasonal dragons. I know it says the Desert Wraith is a near cousin, but it seriously. Other thast where they live and appearance, what's the difference? NightFuryLover31 (talk) 20:12, February 10, 2016 (UTC)

Possible reason of 20yrs ago with the Dragon Attack
Is it possible that Cloudjumper and rest of  the dragons attack berk because they trying to get food while they were following their Alpha

Maybe the Bewilderbeast was swimming near by Berk underwater and while the dragons were flying were hungry needed food. It might be possible

Could be these dragons were only trying attack on the prey of the sheep or yaks for their long journey they have been doing that attack because of thier alpha command to travel a new home and berk had many food sources. Cloudjumper didnt really attack Hiccup or Valka big sign just trying to find food or Valka Mercy could have tried to fight back agisnt the viking that was stoped by Valka

So it might be Misunderstanding, just like the HTTYD movie

Senses
FireTerryTiger seems to think that Night Furies have poor night vision because of their echolocation. And he seems to think that I don't know about bats, which I do....--Hulk10 (talk) 15:12, February 14, 2016 (UTC)

i never said u dont know nothign about bats or neither i said night fry have no night vision

just saying they never truely mention on their eyes

we do know Toothless vision is strong and see as human colaring

Hey Lightingskrill

it was just misunderstanding its not a big deal sorry for my actions about this

it was never really comfirm thats all

possible (yet)

Zippleback strength
is this better to put for strength

<span data-ve-clipboard-key="0.4119809989351779-1" style="font-size:14px;height:1px!important;">  Zipplenack have shown to be very strong dragon as able to wrap around their necks to hold many pounds such as the weight of the two skinny teens, with extra weight of gronckle and heavy teen rider as well with out showing a struggle when flying. But one head of the Zippleback as shown that unable to hold weight of very heavy rider. This dragon is also proven to hold their ground from Night Fury.FireTerryTiger (talk) 10:20, February 16, 2016 (UTC)

so what do u think more accurate FireTerryTiger (talk) 10:31, February 16, 2016 (UTC)

Did you read this??

By anychance?

????FireTerryTiger (talk) 23:36, February 18, 2016 (UTC)

Mimic
<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:verdana,sans-serif;">Parrots do not have vocal cords, so sound is accomplished by expelling air across the mouth of the bifurcated trachea. Different sounds are produced by changing the depth and shape of trachea. So, talking parrots are really whistling in different variations. Congo African Grey Parrots (CAG) are well known for their ability to "talk", which may be caused by more control, or stronger trachea.

its not really intelligence is vocal

Did you know house cat are able to use their vocal ability to mimic of bird for hunting and <span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:'trebuchetms',helvetica,charcoal;"> They were recording some pied tamarin monkeys vocalizing,    <span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:'trebuchetms',helvetica,charcoal;">when suddenly a wildcat appeared on the scene, emitting calls identical to those of the monkeys.

<span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:'trebuchetms',helvetica,charcoal;">its ability FireTerryTiger (talk) 12:51, February 19, 2016 (UTC)

Lighting skrill did u read this

<span style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:'HelveticaNeue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;white-space:pre-wrap;">Nothing to do with intelligence, it's part of their vocal system. expert told me

How was Toothless able to mimic Hiccup? From what you said, you were talking about "talking". Toothless never talked. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 10:19, February 20, 2016 (UTC)

well in HTTYD 2 he was very close to sound as he was reapeating the words of hiccup say 'big baby poo"

Showing Toothless over the years is able to mimic of his rider as modern birds takes them while to say word as they need to time to pronounce the word of their vocal

That's Night Fury groaning, not speaking. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 13:37, February 20, 2016 (UTC)

but if u listen carefully u can hear it trying to sound the words

like i cats cats are able to to use their vocal sound of birds and monkeys for hunitng

i ask expert a movie critic who study on animal behavior he comfirmed it was mimic of the night fury was doing

Coldsnap
Coldsnap is on the Dragon Species list. You know, "Seen in the Franchise." It doesn't belong there because it is a Armorwing, not a different species. I'd fix it, but I don't know how. NightFuryLover31 (talk) 16:47, February 20, 2016 (UTC)

Not Cool at All!
Um, what in Thor is wrong with you?! You wiped out my gallery. They were of my favorite pictures! How dare you! You are being rude! I am telling Toothless! 01:56, March 31, 2016 (UTC)01:56, March 31, 2016 (UTC)01:56, March 31, 2016 (UTC)~ Dynamic Doradynam

You can undo my edit and copy them onto your own profile page. But it can't be as a page. As I said please do not make a whole page for that, the pages are for "official" or cannon information, not for users. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 02:06, March 31, 2016 (UTC)

Hey lighting skrill
its me Fireterry

but i made  a new email to new account becuase i lost my orginal account lol

What do u think of seaosn 3 of race to the edge

I think Dagur is alive possible wounded woth his Shattermaster so they hiding to get well or captured by the hunters?Flameterry (talk) 23:04, June 28, 2016 (UTC)

Well what do u think???09:25, July 9, 2016 (UTC)Flameterry (talk)

I think Dagur should be dead. Even though I prefer him to be alive, it fits the story line. But some people said he's still alive I don't know. And long time no see. How's everything? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 12:43, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

Good nothing knew how about yourself?

I was wonderin this dragon is Strike Class dragon

Based on the colaring is it possible Triple Styker comes from island that is sandy for Sandstroms as it can blend Flameterry (talk) 13:54, July 18, 2016 (UTC)

Also the wheel roll isnt Special ability just ability for agility Flameterry (talk) 15:30, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

I'm fine. And I didn't say it's a special ability. I only listed it as an ability. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 15:48, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

i dont think it should be listed as it most likey better at agility Flameterry (talk) 16:17, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

Agility is an ability. It's what skill you do with that agility taht makes it an ability anyways. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 16:23, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

True about the Triple Styker agility shouldn't be added for the Wheel as it more likey just normal agility but Gripping tail is special ability

This is Strike Class Dragon

The Triple Stryker dragon colouring is based for like Sandstrom's as it can blend right through like the Snowratih for Blizzards. The Triple Stryker may have come from island of the Sandy Island. I put this on the triva but it got deleted by another user.

Yes, I've heard that the Triple Stryke being a sandstorm dragon. But I don't think it should be in the trivia because it is pure assumption and we don't have to assume so many things Lightning the Skrill (talk) 14:00, July 18, 2016 (UTC)

I also do belive Triple Stryker isnt 20 stat for speed and the same with Typhoomberang most likely on 18 dont you belvie? Its more possible their speed stat will enchance on Titan Wing as Hookfang speed have shown to fly faster then average Nightmare from hard tranning as proof against the speed of Titan Nightmare as about 17 stat

I don't mind the dragonpedia stats. I know that some of them are inaccurate, including the Triple Stryke's speed. I just ignore then. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 14:09, July 18, 2016 (UTC)

yeah their mistakes

did u read about titan Nightmare speed compare with hookfang was i correct?

I also was wondering

How strong is Monstrous Nightmare as Hookfang proven for his kind are able to lift Fireworm Queen. I still belive Nightmares are Physical Strength suppress Night Fury like Toothless but Toothless makes up for great combat ability on their side to win many battles. I think Toothless can lift at least 6,200LBS like Barf/Belch weight with Hiccup because he shown to struggle. Maybe Monstrous Nightmare can lift 3-4tons but Titan Nightmare has shown to toss 2.5tons Hookfang with no struggle at all.

So what u think Flameterry (talk) 14:46, July 18, 2016 (UTC)

Done!-- Annabeth and Percy ~They say you gotta take the good with the bad. I'll take it all as long as I have you.  15:48, July 18, 2016 (UTC)

Done what im still waitng what Lighting Skrill thinks Flameterry (talk) 15:53, July 18, 2016 (UTC)

I asked her about changing the infobox. But anyways yes I think so too. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 16:04, July 18, 2016 (UTC)

??? what u say? about Nightmares of strengthFlameterry (talk) 16:30, July 18, 2016 (UTC)

That they are physically stronger than Night Furies. And We've talked about this for a very very long time! Lightning the Skrill (talk) 16:42, July 18, 2016 (UTC)

Well, Hookfang lifted the Fireworm Queen without struggle, and she's 6125 lbs. That's obviously heavier than the Zippleback's 6036. It's also interesting how everyone says that a few dragons could be stronger than Night Furies, since many of them was already proven to be stronger. Thorndrum (talk) 17:00, July 18, 2016 (UTC)

How do you know the weight of Fireworm Queen is 6,125lbs? Thats Right

Gronckle's are very weak compare to others as they can lift Skrill or Night Fury weight with extra of Fishlegs basicly under 1ton.

Deadly Nadder unknown fo their strength but Stromfly lift Twins hut without struggle with Astrid?

Windshear strength is said to be strong as Typhoomerang meaning can lift amount of weight or munch more at least near 4tons or more proven by TorchFlameterry (talk) 17:39, July 18, 2016 (UTC)

Zippleback strength have shown that they can't lift the weight of very heavy rider like Fishlegs on their neck. But they can hold the weight of Meatlug, Fishlegs and the Twins by tangling the neck. THats about 3.2tons that their carrying. Flameterry (talk) 21:10, July 19, 2016 (UTC)

"We shouldn't post School of Dragons user's characters or dragons in the gallery"? I don't know what you're referring to there. Can you clarify more? And the white infoboxes is the default color of both the dragon and character infoboxes, and is not supposed to be used. You need to fill in the section |Source =  with either Franchise or Book depending on what the page is for.-- Annabeth and Percy ~They say you gotta take the good with the bad. I'll take it all as long as I have you.  14:47, July 20, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for that, because I can get a notification about it. And, you're right, there shouldn't be people's own dragons from their side of the game. They need to be original pictures of the dragons species itself.-- Annabeth and Percy ~They say you gotta take the good with the bad. I'll take it all as long as I have you.  19:53, July 20, 2016 (UTC)

Whispering Death Train by Alvin
I was wondering was Whispering Death that Alvin had was train as you think about it.

Alvin Whispering death was train by Alvin as he learn from mildew teaching skills from watching Hiccup as he was able to tamed the Dragon. It was named Groundspliter in the game and he was able to ride Whispering Death and use them to attack Dagur crew.

so i was  correct Flameterry (talk) 15:06, July 21, 2016 (UTC)

Seriously, this is just ridiculous. Why can't you accept that not everything is true that you come up with. Thorndrum (talk) 15:48, July 21, 2016 (UTC)

I was true about the baby  Scuttleclaw while u said the baby thunderdrum are bigger which it was wrong. Thats true.

But anyway he did train it. He was able to put his hand on the noise. He made lock his dragon up but Dragon riders also lock their dragons in the cages on Dragon Edge if you remember. So its possible Alvin does do training in his arena like the Teens Dragon Area.

Alvin was the first to train Whispering Death unlike Hiccup wasn't able to do so.

Alvin manage to use the Whispering Death's attack Dagur with his crew as you can see they did't attack the heros. Meaning they have some training.

Rise of Berk saids Alvin has Groundsplitter. Flameterry (talk) 15:57, July 21, 2016 (UTC)

Alvin is front of the whispering death to be tame and you can see Whisperign death was very calm and not attack Alvin or Mildew meaning he done it.

U know i will get comfimred by one of the workers of Race to the edge and see what he saids ok

He always been answering me  Flameterry (talk) 16:01, July 21, 2016 (UTC)

Yes, what's your point? Lightning the Skrill (talk) 01:43, July 22, 2016 (UTC)

im asking one of the workers of the show maybe he can tell us since he works on setFlameterry (talk) 02:50, July 22, 2016 (UTC)

soon he will tell meFlameterry (talk) 02:43, July 23, 2016 (UTC)

Skrill page
Why do you keep removing the Skrill vs Seashocker thing? It's from a DreamWorksTV video, where they asked the producers about it. It's just a little interesting fact that I think should be added to the trivia section. Thorndrum (talk) 10:03, July 23, 2016 (UTC)

Yes I know it's from DreamWorksTV. But the way it is put, "A Skrill versus a Seashocker is a draw. The Skrill has aerial advantage, but water is its only weakness, giving the Seashocker equal footing", feels like everytime they fight each other, it's a draw. If you really want to put it, it shouldn't be the way DreamWorksTV said it. It should be that the Skrill and Seashocker are both equal in combat during a battle, or something like that. Because that sentance feels like it's always going to be a draw. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 13:03, July 23, 2016 (UTC)

I agree with Lighting The Skrill

Skrill is Aerial Dragon

Sea Shocker is a water dweller dragon

Sea Shocker can jump out of the water but its not really a flier but its sea creature

Both have electric abilities makes them even for that but combat for these will be waiste in my opion either of them will win

Skrills cant attack in the water meaning will easily looses from the Sea Shocker and if the Skrill have the strength to carry the Sea Shocker in the air can do attacks so it will win

Basicly it will be a draw of the battle Dinowolf56 (talk) 13:35, July 23, 2016 (UTC)

More Seasons of the show
Will their be more to the show

will thier be possible after the events of HHTYD2 Flameterry (talk) 19:06, July 29, 2016 (UTC)

Speed Stingers
i was wondering

Speed Stingers are incredibly fast, super smart, and super stealthy seems most likely they should be in Strike Class

dont u think so

i know they are sharp class but they shown to have some qualities of strike classFlameterry (talk) 20:24, August 2, 2016 (UTC)

Bite Mark Grudge
I put this comment on the 'talk" of Toothless emeny the Whispering Death

since you and me did talk about this for some time

As Toothless must have cuase the prombelm as it might have flew to the Whispering Death home as the Whispering Death was defeding his home from this trasspasser and got scar on the tail as it cause the grudge Flameterry (talk) 03:38, August 9, 2016 (UTC)

Why did u deleted the agreement it might be true Flameterry (talk) 09:31, August 9, 2016 (UTC)

What do u think?

Okay first off, it's just a theory. Second, it doesn't make sense that it makes an "agreement" with the dragons when all of them are afraid of it. And it doesn't make sense that it would eat one if it doesn't being food. What's really going on is the dragons feed the Red Death because they don't want it to eat them. If all the dragons left, and didn't bring it food, then the Red Death would leave the volcano and go on a rampage. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 09:58, August 9, 2016 (UTC)

If you think of it the dragons can find safe place to hide as every nest has thier queen as Astrid stated this dragon will eat on the suppliers don't bring back food as proven it ate Gronckle that it only give very small fish as it got eaten of its mistake.

This dragon gives them protection as Dragon island was never founded by humans before as it was their own sanctuary from humans as they serve their queen.

Red Death seemed to be unable to hunt well because as proven it was able to grab any of the dragon riders from attacking and the dragon that lived in the Island stay out of the fight of Humans vs Red Death as a sign that these dragons have done thier services as know the queen must fullfil her promise on these dragons protection of the dragon slayers. Flameterry (talk) 13:15, August 9, 2016 (UTC)

also yes these dragons are afraid of the Red Death but these dragons have been hunted by humans for years as the Red Death is albe to give them home for exchange for food as they will be safe from harm unless they unable to being back food

They were only killed because the dragons raided the Vikings, first presumably. Why did they raid them, because the Red Death wants food. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 14:56, August 9, 2016 (UTC)

Humans hav eplenty of food of sheeps and goats in HTTYD film and im guessing fish as thye need a lot of food to feed the Red Death

In the Trivia someone typed that these dragons can left the Red Death to die as they have no purpose to feed her but you are saying Red Death will go on rampage to attack everything for food but proven by this dragon seems unable to hunt well.

this dragon the Red Death needs workers to survive as exchange for home of protection of humans

since humans are enemies to dragons since time before of Trained.

Toothless is the smartest of all dragons as it quite possible it stay with Red Death too becuase knowing his kind was going to extinct stay with the Red Death to be safe from harm.

Toothless is super smart so he could just fly away from all this never come to help dragons that attack on berk as a arial support but he stay meaning surrive from humans tooFlameterry (talk) 23:12, August 9, 2016 (UTC)

If all the dragons left, then the Red Death would have to hunt by itself, as it can leave the volcano. This thing is like hundreds of feet long and very heavy too, it can destroy islands. Astrid says "It's like a giant beehive, they're the workers and that's their queen. It controls them." She said that the Red Death controls them, which might be what's happening. Controlling smaller dragons to bring them food. Dragonpedia also stiffens this statement.

I doubt Toothless worked for the Red Death. Hiccup said that the Night Fury never steals food. And so it probably doesn't work for the Red Death, as when the Red Death saw Toothless, Hiccup and Astrid, it tried to eat them because Toothless didn't bring any food. Also, Dragonpedia says that the Red Death produces a homing signal, SIMILAR to how the Bewilderbeast can control dragons. That may be why Toothless was forced to go to the volcano.Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:34, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

Also Lighting Skrill its true that Toothless never steal foods but it must be helpfull as it more of arieal attacker Red Death smells the humans as it might be unfamiler scent for herself possible never smell humasn in her lair

Also she dosent seem to have that strong ability to control them, if she did she will make them attack with her agisnt the Humans but didnt have full control of these dragons.

These dragons arun away when humasn came to the island meanignthe red death purpse is to protect them from humans Flameterry (talk) 03:48, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

When the Vikings arrived on the island, the dragons left because they weren't being controlled by the Red Death. In dragonpedia, it says the Red Death uses VOCAL sounds to summon dragons. It has been seen when Toothless was attracted to it earlier. The dragons might also want to flee the Red Death, as there was a distraction by the Vikings to the queen. That's why Toothless looked scared as he saw the dragons flying away. It meant that the Red Death was about to come out. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:54, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

HEY do not delete my pages or i will tell the founder of this wiki to ban you

by the way i told you i made the dragons that you deleted in create a book of dragons flyer. so im try to share what i made. by Extintanimalstudier

I didnt deleted any of your pages if I did very sorry

my mistake Flameterry (talk) 06:53, August 11, 2016 (UTC)

and i do think its cool you met toothless but come on delete my pages? that makes me           ANGRY
iim sorry for what i said. im putting those pages i made and you deleted on the fanon wiki

Glad that you know. Lightning the Skrill (talk) 08:54, August 11, 2016 (UTC)

Alpha Control
Toothless won the fight but i dont think he has the ability of the Dragon control.

The dragons were freed by the mind control of the Bewilderbad by Toothless enhance plasma blast

Night Fury may have never have this ability but Toothless was able to gain this Alpha control becuase he won the fight.

Tootlhess was able to get dragons respect as their Alpha because he cares for dragons and wants to protect them all.

Flameterry (talk) 08:26, August 16, 2016 (UTC)

he doesent have mind control ability of the dragons but he got something better he won their respect of dragons as Cloudjumper was the first to bow down to him as the new alpha

Toothless was shown to be born leader of the Hookfang, Metlug, Barf/Belch and Stromfly as they shown to follow him. Flameterry (talk) 08:29, August 16, 2016 (UTC)

This seems to be accurate as dragons went to Toothless side as most of the dragons wanted to join Toothless because of the evil Bewilderbeast. Some dragons could have join Toothless because wanted to be freed, others of dragons that lived on Berk wanted to protect their home, some could join Toothless to revenge their other Alpha that was pure good, and Skullcrusher might wanted to revenge of Stoick the Vast.

As they see a medium size dragon taking on super large dragon with no fear possible a sign that any dragon shouldn't be afraid of the evil bewilderbeast.

i know that Bewilderbeast isnt evil he was raised to be evil like people do with their dogs that mistreated

i think the Draco have felings for his dragon as the Bewilderbeast shows to care for him as saving his life from falling and giving him ride meaning possible some good relationshipDinowolf56 (talk) 08:34, August 16, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Capitals
Hey Lightning! Yeah, it's been a really long time since we've talk. Anyways, I really don't mind you changing the caps. It's just that it has been really inconsistent across different pages. I agree, it's been a bit confusing with the caps. I think it's best to stick with leaving a line and ending each phrase with a semi colon though, but do what you must! Thanks ;) The Woolly Howl 09:32, October 2, 2016 (UTC)

Renders vs Screenshots
Hey Lightning! Long time no talk! Speaking about the pictures, you've made a good point! I personally think that Renders would look better, since it's neater and more presentable. But not all the dragoons have renders... But perhaps we should try the Renders out? It's school holidays for me here, so I'm a bit more active. And yeap, I realized that you're offline more nowaday, so I'm assuming you're super busy. But I'm glad you found time off! :) --- The Woolly Howl 10:12, December 11, 2016 (UTC)

Personally, I think that it's better without the background. I'll try to see if I can remove the background for the rest.--- The Woolly Howl 11:40, December 11, 2016 (UTC)

Hey! So I've changed the pictures for most of the infobozxes to transparent renders. However, we are missing a few as I couln't find tranparent ones for them. Namely, it's the Purple Death, but I have one that I used for the userbox here. Some others, like the Snafflefang and the Hotburple, do have renders but they're only from Rise of Berk. So should I just stick to those used in the userbox for the Purple Death and the RoB photos for the rest? --- The Woolly Howl 10:05, December 12, 2016 (UTC)