User blog comment:Dual Energon/What I think makes HTTYD 2 the supremely better movie./@comment-24018437-20151113155518/@comment-24865409-20151117070040

@ Megadracosaurus

'' "I bet that if you would suddenly walk up to the lion I mentioned, someone would intervere because they think its gonna kill you. The Vikings used, what they thought was, common sense." ''

It wasn't common sense because they provoked a dragon that Hiccup just managed to tame.

If I walked up to the lion, I would say that no one intervenes unless the lion attacks first.

Hiccup gave an order to wait and see, but the bloody idiots ignored him and because of that disaster struck.

'' "The appearance of the animal your breeding does matter. Dogs with flat faces, for example, often have trouble breathing. Sure, its kind." ''

The damn appearance doesn't matter!

What matters is the personality!

If the dog is kind, then it is kind.

And it doesn't matter if it is sickly because of physical shortcomings. Good life is precious and must be protected, no matter the cost.

'' "Stoick is also seen making battle plans when they're at the nest, setting up defensive positions and placing catapults on strategic locations." ''

I'll admit that the vikings had some sort of strategy, but that's just in regard to a dragon's weakness.

When the Berkians actually fight, their strategy is basically summed up as "all hell will break loose". That is a strategy that is poorly thought out.

'' "But that would be confusing and slightly unfair. Every argument I'd make that uses the show, you would consider as non-canon and therefore not true." ''

First of all, deleted scenes are non-canon because they were deleted.

The show, however, is not "deleted" so it is canon.

But in my opinion, the show is horribly written, so I don't regard the show as canon.

Is it a crime for a fan to pick their own plot points from canon?

So yes, you can use details from the show in your argument as it is canon. But that means that if I find details from the show that disprove your argument, your argument is disproven.

At the end of the day, deleted scenes are not canon and fans have individual rights to decide whether or not the show is canon.

'' "But I will say it didn't seem like Stoick was afraid: rather, he didn't want to fight a war with the Berserkers if it could be prevented." ''

If the Berserkers are morally wrong, why is Stoick holding back from going to war with them?

Stoick immediately rushed to arms the instant he heard Hiccup say "Drago Bludfist".

'' "But why did the Nightmare do that? Because he was hunting Hiccup. Why was he hunting Hiccup? Because he was outside the forge." ''

So if Hiccup wasn't being chased - if the Nightmare decided to pick on another unfortunate viking instead, said viking would be blamed for the destruction?

That just ain't right.

'' "Though I do think he deserved that speech from Stoick and Astrid, for reasons I already explained." ''

And I think that Hiccup should have given a well-deserved scolding to Stoick for the terrible parenting, and disownment.

And I also think that Hiccup should have given a well-deserved scolding to the tribe for turning their backs on him, as well as the fact that they didn't appreciate him until he was top in training, and the fact that because of them he lost his leg.

'' "As for Spitelout, are you talking about his book counterpart or movie version? I don't remember much from his book version as it has been a while since I re-read the series. If you're talking about the movie version...I agree." ''

I'm talking about the movie version.

Though it took time, the book version of Spitelout (called Baggybum the Beerbelly) actually grew to respect Hiccup and became furious when he learned that Snotlout had left Hiccup to die.

Anyways, the movie version of Spitelout is horrible and what's worse is that his behaviour is not being corrected.

Also, he is a bad influence on movie Snotlout, who is unbearable. Characters who are unbearable are badly written characters.

Well if HTTYD 1 takes historical liberties for its script for the sake of playing it safe, yet still tries to paint itself as "realistic", then it's just pompusly pretentious.

You shouldn't defend a movie that does that kind of thing.