User talk:Tauriel the Elf/Archive 2

Re: Small Note
Oh, I'm sorry, I had no idea. Thanks for notifying me of this change. Lo g o   Dra go n Cre ator      13:20, February 3, 2018 (UTC)

Done! HiccstridFan92 (talk) 14:15, February 3, 2018 (UTC)

Thank Odin!
Doesn't appear he harassed you anymore since I left. Glad to hear he's gone. What a trip! Back to our regularly scheduled program, then. 😊

🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 18:51, February 5, 2018 (UTC)

Urgenta
''TE rog spune-mi cu ce sa ajut caci mi-e greu sa pun imagini ca sa multumesc pe toti... Intreba-i SI PE CEILALTI UTILIZATORI EVENTUALYoungtrainer (talk) 12:34, February 10, 2018 (UTC)''

Raspuns pt ceilalti Admini
Imi pare rau ca ei nu vad in acelasi fel ca mine sensul de captare a momentelor si crede-ma ca mult s-a dezvoltat acest Wiki de cand am adaugat eu imagini dar si eu duc lipsa de unele chestii asa ca te rog sa ma lase sa pun liber Imagini in continuare. Pe mine ma ipulsioneaza sa vad faptul ca alte site-uri similare folosesc acm imaginile mele. Iti mai amintesti la inceput cand luam imagini preluate dv lOe la polonezi?? EI BINE DE 2 DE CAND M-AM LOGAT S-A SCHIMBAT PLACA SI ACUM EI FOLOSESC CONTINUTUL MEU... Dar spune-le ca nu zic aceste lucruri cu rautate si as vrea si eu un loc in echipa de admini desigur nu ca mavoi ocupa eu permanent de editari sau etc. Vreau sa fie mai deschisi la continut, desi inteleg ca dureaza sa aranjezi imaginile in funstie de episod,personaje si alte aspecte. Si vezi care e mai conservator? EU vreau cat profit de timpul liber sa postez continut pt noile specii, si zi-le ca voi respecta acest pact de a nu pune prea multe imagine deodata pt noul sezon...... Dar sa ma lase pe mine sa pun imaginile deoarece eu vreau sa-mi rezerv acea parte. Si inca ceva sa ma contacteze dintre voi cei care sunt dispusi sa colboreze cu mine sa scrie pe mesaje caci as dori mai multe colaboarari ca a noastra chiar daca esti singurul/a care stie cum sa abordeze lucrurile in privinta cu restul sunt cam distant. Spune-le ca atat timp cat va exista serialul eu nu am voi opri din postat imagini dar vreau acordul lor sa ma pot misca in voie. Cu drag Youngtrainer (talk) 16:17, February 10, 2018 (UTC)

Multumesc sper ca n-u e presez prea mult cerandu-ti aceasta favoare.Youngtrainer (talk) 17:24, February 10, 2018 (UTC)

Hey. I recently created a page called Popcorn, as in what Snotlout invented in Sins of the Past, RTTE. You've taken the page down. May I ask why? I realise it wasn't exactly complete, but is there another reason? AWESOME512345 (talk) 12:40, February 11, 2018 (UTC)

I just checked the terror mail. Sorry ignore my earlier comment.AWESOME512345 (talk) 12:41, February 11, 2018 (UTC)

Re: New Template
No, I hadn't seen that template. I think its fine, as long as it adds a category to the page like the stub template does. That way we can find the pages that need it easier. Though, what is wrong with the stub template? Is it not specific enough?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:27, February 13, 2018 (UTC)

Your opinion :)
Hi.:) As you can see in recent activity there is a bit of a "conflict" going between me and a user. I was wondering if you think we should stick to the way HiccstridFan92 did the season 5 page or listen to this user. I personally think it looks messy like this and only the trailer should be on there. There are going to be at least 6 clips released for this season and I think it's better to have them posted in the gallery. What do you think? --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 13:22, February 14, 2018 (UTC)

It is fine if Youngtrainer uploads most of the pictures. Of course I will still upload the title card pictures myself, plus I will upload some Hiccstid pictures from the new season like I usually do. Other than that, I don't upload pictures, so there will really not be an overlap with me.

On another note, I am not forcing him to do this, but when it comes to doing JPGs vs PNGs, JPGs are better for pictures without words, and PNGs are better for pictures with a lot of words, so for the pictures for the episodes, so if possible he should upload them as JPGs instead of PNGs. Years ago I uploaded a couple of pictures onto another wiki in the PNG format, and was told to upload pictures as JPGs instead. I did so, and even replaced the pictures I had uploaded as PNGs, with a new JPG version. Of course I am only talking about wanting him to upload them as JPGs for this season, as there is no need to replace the pictures from past seasons being that there are too many to replace, and that has nothing to do with the excessive uploads, just the fact that there are a lot of episodes for which pictures were uploaded by him in the PNG format. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 15:23, February 14, 2018 (UTC)

I see what you mean and I totally agree that it would be more convenient with larger intervals between the article changes. I don't see a problem with that. https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  14:19, February 15, 2018 (UTC)

Just a Question about Page Formats
Can you check the formatting of Heather and Windshear's Relationship? I worked on this stub a while back, but I don't know if it was in the correct format. I was going to follow the lines of the Hiccup and Toothless page, but that relationship was in multiple parts of the universe, so was organised likewise.

If this format of Relationship page is correct I will get around to do this in other relationship article stubs.

Thanks AWESOME512345 (talk) 07:34, February 17, 2018 (UTC)

Done. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 12:46, February 18, 2018 (UTC)

Simultaneously working pn pages ...
Hey, it looks like you are working on pages at the same time I am, as I just went to publish a page for Willow but you had done it instead. Please let me take care of the images I upload, since I am currently online to take care of them. I'd appreciate it! If I leave images on my profile page, I probably am not actively working on them or had to stop (like go to work, sleep or whatever) and I don't mind if you insert those images or crate pages or whatnot. Thanks!

Since we both put in efforts for the Willow page, I will amend it to include both our writings (I have copy/pasted it just in case ...)

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  18:38, February 18, 2018 (UTC)

PS. Interestingly we both were thinking the same ... I started the "Description" section with "Willow refers to some 400 species of trees and shrubs comprising the Genus Salix. " very similar to yours! :)

Yes, I think we all have the same ideas. For myself, I have gone through and watched Season 6 once, and am now trying to go back through and pick out things and take screen shots. My focus is pulling out all the bits about plants, animals, minor/mentioned characters, objects and other things that are not usually the focus for most people. Most people will focus on the main characters and dragons (as they already are, pretty much or will be soon).

That said, as much as other people focus on the main characters and such, there is still a lack of, missing, or unclear info for them such as in the Biographies and so on and that needs to be worked on too!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  19:09, February 18, 2018 (UTC)

Opinions Needed ...
So I have thought of (and forgotten) about a few things regarding pages to create (or not) that I'd like your opinion on. As I remember I'll put them here!


 * 1) Should we create a page for the third, unnamed trader that appeared in No Bark, All Bite?
 * 2) Do you think Air Mail should be renamed "Terror Mail"? I think that's what most people know it as. Also, would Air/Terror mail be an object, event/practice, or character? Something else?
 * 3) Oswald's Diary - should this be changed to something like "Oswald's Papers" or "Oswald's Writings"? Apparently Oswald wrote a lot more than just the diary. Or should those be something separate?

For the moment, comments are on the Diary page, but as you say, the Dragon Manual and Bork's papers are separate pages .. hmmm, I'll think on it, but not a priority.

4. A big one ... the Unnamed Islands page, I think, is getting way too large and shifted (like the text with the infoboxes are getting misaligned). Do you have any ideas about a formatting that would keep the boxes with the appropriate info, or perhaps should we split the page up? If so, how? The RttE places form the bulk of the page, and there's only more to add from Season 6.

Will do. Yeah, I think the headers should be kept, but the text and infobox sometimes don't line up. Or may be it works/appears differently depending on the browser and screen size each person uses to view it? I'm not sure ...

5. In "A Gruff Separation", Tuffnut is training chicks on an obstacle course. At one point he says "Hey! Keep your knees up! That's it, little chick-ly." Do you think this is a name for one of the chicks (i.e. needs a page) or some sort of general term? If so, I'm not sure what it would be. Also the subtitles don't capitalize 'chick-ly'.

6. Do you suppose the islands the Twins visited for the Induction Trials are Speed Stinger Island and Changewing Island? Can you think of any way to prove that? I don't remember them mentioning it specifically. Or any other times Speed Stingers appeared for that matter ... I might also ask Hiccstrid about this one.

7. Should we make a page for Grass? It's everywhere, but Mala specidically mentions grass when describing the symbolic meaning of the "Dance of Blades".

Oh, yes, that's a good point about there being a page for moss! I think I will make a grass page. Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  19:24, February 18, 2018 (UTC)

There's no reason to italicize the names of headings, and I specifically said to use sentence case for headings in the Manual of Style. I also put that last sentence under "Legacy" for a reason. - lavamelon  ( talk ) 23:20, February 20, 2018 (UTC)

I just want to let you know that Youngtrainer is back at it. He uploaded pictures today, and again he uploaded in excess. It bothers me that he keeps doing this, after we told him to stop. Also, what really put me over the top is that between a couple of days this month he uploaded 129 some pictures from the trailer for season 6, alone. That alone is excessive for a two minute trailer. I don't think we should be even taking pictures from the trailer, mainly because of the watermark that is the top right corner. His excessive uploading is driving me to the edge, and really I can't trust him if he says he would cut down on pictures, but later still uploads as many pictures as before. His massive uploading, also makes it hard to go through the wiki activity and even makes stuff fall off. It is much harder to look through the recent changes page than it is to look through the recent wiki activity page, simply because the recent changes, only show what was done and how much was added or subtracted into what section, and reasons, but in such a way that is harder to go through, while recent activity shows what section a person edited, what pictures were added, an edit summary if one is put, and it is put in such a way that is very easy to read, and much quicker to go through than recent changes. Thus, with Youngtrainer uploading excessive pictures, it makes going through the recent changes on the wiki a lot harder, particularly on days where I get up later and he has already uploaded a bunch of pictures, and thus caused a cutoff at some point for edits thus keeping me from being able to go through all the recent wiki activity in an efficient manner, and thus having to go to the recent changes page to see what changes happened in the last how many ever hours since I last had been on the wiki the night before. While I know Youngtrainer is only able to upload pictures, I can't allow him to continue to upload excessive amounts of pictures. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 18:25, February 22, 2018 (UTC)

Not sure exactly what to do, but at some point we need to take the time to trim down the pictures. Should be plenty of time to do so, what with the only thing left to come out this year is Dragonvine, as well as it being just over a year before the third film is released. Of course there will be teaser trailers, the official trailer, and clips later on this year, but again uploading said clips to wiki is all that that requires, leaving minimal stuff to add, and more time for fixing up this wiki. Maybe you could message Youngtrainer, and give him a warning. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 18:45, February 22, 2018 (UTC)

I agree that the articles should be changed every three months. I also agree that Dragons: Race to the Edge, Season 6 should be the featured other. Not sure what else should be featured. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 12:56, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

Space coding on the Unnamed Island pages
Hey, I notice that you sometimes remove the  tags from the Unnamed Islands pages. I know they aren't ideal, but without them, the infoboxes, text, and headings, get all out of line. Does it appear like that for you on your computer and browser? I don't know of any other coding to add to straighten it up except the. I suppose I could tinker around with tables or blank images? Any ideas?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  13:20, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for checking it out. I will try to get some other images, but a few of the locations are only briefly seen. If I can't, I might create blank transparent images to act as placeholders, but shouldn't show up to a viewer of the page.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  13:56, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

‎Re: Featured Articles
Sounds good. To celebrate the final season, I suggest featured character should be Viggo Grimborn or Johann, and maybe the dragon species could be a Dramillion or a Bewilderbeast.

 AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 13:53, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

I don't have ideas. I like the Season 6 choice.--

Re: Featured Articles
Hi Tauriel,

I agree 100% about the seasonal decision rather than monthly. We can't seem to stay consistent with featured articles (or featured users), and changing them seasonally would be more achievable than monthly.

I also agree with Alexa's choices. My personal picks would be Johann and the Dramillion. And yes, RttE S6 as featured "Other".

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 17:05, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

I am fine with the Viggo Grimborn and Dramillion pages, being the next featured pages. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 18:03, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

I agree. Dramillion definitely. --

Re:Featured Articles - Spring 2018
Sure thing! Thanks for keeping featured articles going and informing me! --https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  11:09, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

I just noticed these comments above. It would be very interesting as to how this would be done. Featured Articles was a retired feature on another established community that I administrate, and it would be nice to see it again. Cheetawolfnitrotyper (talk) 13:27, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

Delete this broken redirect
Fourth Chief of Berk Cheetawolfnitrotyper (talk) 17:49, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Space Coding on Unnamed Islands Pages
So I uploaded a blank image to see if that could help with spacing on the Unnamed Islands pages. I applied it to Unnamed Islands / Dragons: Race to the Edge Season 4-6. Can you take a look and see what it looks like for you, when you have a second? I think it works for spacing, but it might not work because there is an empty box. My intent was not to see anything because the image is transparent ...

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:59, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah. I only have one more thing to try, the code with the transparent image. Then I don't have any other ideas, either :(

Actually, that may have worked??? Can you see what it looks like in your view, when you have a sec? Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  17:18, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

Hmmm. So I set the pixel size to 350px, I think. Would you have time to adjust the size to see what works for you? Then I can look and see if that size works for my view, too. If you have time of course! Thank you!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  17:42, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

Winged Spear
I just started a page - finally - for the Winged Spear in SOD, for whenever you are able to add more info!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  18:14, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

Please explain why you undid my edit. Cheetawolfnitrotyper (talk) 19:20, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Some Weapon Pages
I don't see why not? Especially since Viggo is a popular character. We have pages for characters and objects with less information than appearing in two or more episodes. I'll see what I can get, picture-wise. Do you recall any specific episodes that had good views of Johann's knives?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:08, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

Please Delete ...
At your convenience, can you please delete Elm? I made a tabbed page.

Also if you could delete the following images, please? They are ones we don't need or we already have one of.
 * DireStraits-BarfBelch.PNG
 * MiAmoreWing-RabidGrimGnasher.PNG
 * MiAmoreWing-Butterfly.PNG
 * TripleCross-RedOleander1.PNG
 * TripleCross-RedOleander2.PNG
 * DarkestNight-SneezeWartBush.PNG
 * GuardiansOfVanaheim-Mr.MPoYD.PNG
 * KingOfDragonsPt2-Tomato.PNG
 * InPlainSight-Thunderfish1.PNG
 * AGruffSeparation-Desserts.PNG
 * ROB-ShipBattleScreen.PNG

If it's helpful, they are all listed on my Profile page and marked with "DELETE"

Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  03:33, February 28, 2018 (UTC)

I saw what you asked Ladybrassa, and I think that the book Snotlout was reading deserves a page. There is a certainly plenty of information for the page to make sense to have as we know all the names of the chapters, and maybe more than that. However, I am not sure about the twins travel guide as we don't know that much about it. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 15:20, February 28, 2018 (UTC)

I can't remember that much from the episode, but if you say they said a lot, then yes a page is needed. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 16:26, February 28, 2018 (UTC)

I don't see why not? I'm pretty sure the Twins' travel book have images of the pages, too, like when they diagram the tombs on Vanaheim.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:04, March 1, 2018 (UTC)

Can you delete Grasshopper? I made a tabbed page. Also, I tried the "Special:Whatlinkshere" search to change out links to the Grasshopper page, but it kept giving me every single plant and animal page, even though I updated all the Wildlife Navboxes. Is this happening to you?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  02:12, March 2, 2018 (UTC)

Gauntlets
Can you take a look at Gauntlet Events before I go any further? Do you think this is an appropriate page? I noticed that the ROB Wiki doesn't have much on these events, so I think they should be summarized somewhere, particularly the mini-stories associated with them. Also, I'm not sure if they count as a "Practice"? If not, where would this page go?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:34, March 1, 2018 (UTC)

Hey! Sorry for the late reply. I've changed the icons to circles. also might I suggest replacing the current Files titled File:Featured Character.png, File:Featured Other.png and File:Featured Species.png instead of uploading new ones? It will be easier for housekeeping. --https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  07:30, March 1, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Gauntlet page - Yes, I agree about putting specific dates. Problem is I don't remember what they were exactly :(

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:39, March 1, 2018 (UTC)

What does AJAX undo do? Cheetawolfnitrotyper (talk) 02:56, March 2, 2018 (UTC)

Done. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 12:45, March 4, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Unnamed Island in SOD
So sorry! I think you mentioned this recently and it completely left my mind!!

So, I have always heard this location referred to as Credit Island on the SOD forums and elsewhere, I think. I don't recall if this is what SOD refers to it as, or it is just a publicly-accepted name. And I completely forgot about that location when adding the SOD locations!! Yes, I think it should be on the Wiki, but lets research a little to see if it can get its own page "Credit Island" or add it to the Unnamed Islands page.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  18:16, March 4, 2018 (UTC)

Very likely, but just let me double check. In the mean time, if you want to add it to the Unnamed Islands page please do so. We can always change it later :)

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  18:28, March 4, 2018 (UTC)

I just wanted to double check to make sure an admin or SOD official didn't also call it "Credit Island", and of course, this is not the case. (just searched the forum). So yeas, definitely, it goes to the Unnamed Islands page! Also, SOD Wiki does have a page for it, so we can link to it. I will try to get screen shots sometime soon. Lady Brasa (  talk  )  18:42, March 4, 2018 (UTC)

Appearances Template for Games
Should the HTTYD game and HTTYD 2 game be added to the Games appearances template? Also Wild Skies?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  18:55, March 4, 2018 (UTC)

No worries, apparently I forgot I even asked you!!

I might have updated this template. Maybe. At your leisure, can you check it over please? I gotta get going now! Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  18:09, March 5, 2018 (UTC)

Dramillion infobox image.
Hey, I am wondering if you can replace the Dramillion's current infobox image with this one? The former is its Titan Wing form instead of a normal one. Thank you. --NarendraMartosudarmo (talk) 11:16, March 5, 2018 (UTC)

Arctic ...
There is a page for the "Arctic", which states it is where Valka's Mountain is located. I don't recall HTTYD2 actually mentioning this, do you? Yes, technically the Barbaric Archipelago is located in or near the Arctic (if it was real in the first place), but is this page really necessary? What do you think?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  17:02, March 5, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! Also I took out the link for you on "Arctic" :)

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  17:52, March 5, 2018 (UTC)

Hi, to avoid catching users unaware, I'd suggest that you justify why you delete pages. Thanks. Cheetawolfnitrotyper (talk) 17:46, March 5, 2018 (UTC)

Please delete ...
Hey, I just made Lizard into a tabbed page. Can you delete it? Also, I haven't yet looked for links to it, but the last few times I have tried, it won't give me a concise list, even if I wait awhile. It still shows me every single plant and animal page. I am wondering if it has to do with whether the page has actually been deleted or not?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  17:47, March 5, 2018 (UTC)

Those were not your images to begin with, they were someone else's that I originally deleted, that you restored for no good reason, and yes they are excessive because they are too close to each other. It looks better to have picture be very different, and the ones I redeleted are too similar to ones that I didn't delete. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 11:40, March 11, 2018 (UTC)

My bad. I guess I didn't exactly look to see who uploaded those pictures. The way they were named threw me off and I assumed something without looking. I won't toch those pictures or any pictures you uploaded again. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 17:12, March 11, 2018 (UTC)

Newest Expansion in SOD
Hey, I know you haven't played it yet. I will try to add things soon. Just finished it this evening. I have a jumble of pictures to edit (crop/lighten/etc) and some text to add as well.

I started a page for Lumie (just the skeleton of one). I don't presently have the energy or where-with-all to actually add much. I also added an "in usage" template to it, to try it out. I just wanted to say that if you wanted to edit the page (or others if I try out the template again), I'm totally cool with that.

PS. Not sure why I think you know who Lumie is ... he's the Krayfin that has been appearing in the last few expansions ...

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:00, March 14, 2018 (UTC)

Okie dokie, sounds good! If I recall, that Expansion was pretty good. I think I got stuck at one point and it took months for it to be resolved ... but still good.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:00, March 14, 2018 (UTC)

Done! HiccstridFan92 (talk) 13:23, March 17, 2018 (UTC)

Please Delete ...
At your convenience, can you please delete these images? I mis-named them.

Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:39, March 18, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks!

Also, could you delete Oyster? It is a tabbed page now. Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:10, March 20, 2018 (UTC)

"Bjorn" in Maces and Talons, Part 2
Hey, I was rewatching "Maces and Talons, Part 2" and pulling out screenshots. When the Riders get the Dragon Eye from Awesome Viking Cave Club NorthEast, Snotlout and Tuffnut recall playing a game:

"No, no, no, no. Remember, we were playing Pirates vs Vikings and Bjorn was the Pirate Captain?"

- Snotlout

Do you think this is a reference to Bjorn Boar? However, in that scene Tuffnut had just pointed at the stuffed yak head with and apple and sword in its mouth. I'm not sure.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  16:26, March 19, 2018 (UTC)

Page to consider deleting?
So there is a page - Gigantic Dragons ... do you think this page is necessary? It is not up to standard, has outdated info, and we have a category for "Gigantic dragons".

Also, can you delete the images: MacesAndTalonsPt2-Bjorn.PNG and AGruffSeparation-Chick-ly.PNG please? At your convenience of course!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:45, March 20, 2018 (UTC)

Oh also, there is the mention of "paprika-infused wheatgrass" in "No Bark, All Bite", with paprika being a pepper spice. In "Wrath of Stormheart", the regular Sentinels on Vanaheim are attacked with "pepper gas" which, I think means pepper spray, the stuff made from peppers in real life. Do you think this is enough for a "Pepper" page? Or not yet until an actual pepper is seen/mentioned rather than just pepper products?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  02:13, March 21, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, but can you look at the page, Viking Song? Supposedly it is categorized as being from the first How to Train Your Dragon Book. I didn't see it in my copy; is it in yours? I don't recollect it from another Book either. (Its possible I have forgotten, though) Anyway, I can't place it, and if you can't place it, should it be deleted? Worst case we can always reinstate the page later.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  02:13, March 21, 2018 (UTC)

"Policy" against redirects?
Hello. Is there any reason why you go by with a "policy" against redirects? MrAkisaurus (talk) 03:44, March 21, 2018 (UTC)

Clarifying some locations
I have another question for you to consider at your convenience. There is Dragon Hunter Island appearing on the Official RTTE map. All it says is "A major port for the dragon trade. Where Hunters will sell the dragons they have captured for a large sum." As we see throughout RTTE, there are many Dragon Hunter Islands/Ports. On our Dragon Hunter Island page, someone has added the places that appeared in "Maces and Talons", "Between a Rock and a Hard Place", and "Last Auction Heroes". I have rewatched the first two, and the islands appearing in each are the same island and are referred to in the episodes as "Viggo's Base". Snotlout and Heather indicate the island from "Maces and Talons" (where Heather was held captive) is the same as in "Between A Rock and A Hard Place" (the place where the marble dome was). However, the island appearing in "Last Auction Heroes" is not referred to as such, and if you remember, was a secret location Johann had to steal a map from the Tavern to locate. So not the same place. In none of these episodes is the location(s) called 'Dragon Hunter Island'.

I am suggesting to remove the entries on the Dragon Hunter Island page referring to these locations, but indicate that they might be one in the same, but not verified. An entry should be added on the Unnamed Islands / Dragons: Race to the Edge Season 4-6 page for the site of the auction in "Last Auction Heroes". Thirdly, a new page entited "Viggo's Base" should be created for the location seen and referred to in "Maces and Talons" and "Between a Rock and a Hard Place".

Does this sound reasonable, based on the info we have?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  16:09, March 21, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your thoughts! Still, the point I'm getting at is the location on the RTTE map never actually says it is the same place, whereas Caldera Cay on the map specifically states "Serves as the headquarters — and a place of worship — for the dragon-revering Defenders of the Wing" and gives screen shots of that island from the shows. Meaning we never actually have anything that says its the same place, so maybe, maybe not. Instead, we have concrete evidence that this location in question has been named "Viggo's Base". I find there have been inconsistencies between that map and what is actually said/seen in the show. (For example, the Island of Friga - says where weddings take place and has the Grimora, which, in show, is completely not correct).

So, in my mind there ought to be a separate page. However, if you do not agree, I can certainly edit the Dragon Hunter Island page to reflect the possibility of it not being the same location somewhere on the page. That page needs updating either way anyway, since it doesn't follow formatting.

As for Auction Island - that's really interesting!! I completely don't remember that being said in SOD (but I don't remember much). I love it when SOD ties in things, even little mentions and such, to other parts of the Franchise. What part of the Expansion did it appear in? I very briefly watched a Youtube video on the beginning and only saw a Hiccup talk blurb that he had been there before but was "too busy" to remember the location.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  19:58, March 21, 2018 (UTC)

Also, can you delete: I have better images. The user who uploaded them hasn't been on the Wiki since 2011. Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:45, March 22, 2018 (UTC)
 * Spotted Snowpecker Dodging an Arrow.png
 * Semi Spotted Snowpecker.png

Based on the Youtube vids from those points, there wasn't anything specifically saying Auction Island is the same as the place in "Last Auction Heroes". However, there was dialogue from Hiccup that kind of suggested it (where he said something to the effect that he had been to Auction Island before several years but was too busy to remember where it was). Also, "Return to Dragon Island" was released at the same time as Season 3, and also mentioned Berk's lost gold from that episode (They probably didn't yet know about the later episode recovering it ...), not to mention the appearance of the Singetails. So I think this is probably correct, just not spelled out :/ Seems there is a lot of that in the Franchise, specifically related to RttE!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:51, March 23, 2018 (UTC)

Re: The lighting of an image
Yes, I do edit some of the images when needed. I will lighten, crop, and sharpen. Of course never change the content of the image! Some screenshots are just too dark. Often in SOD the lighting is really off in the game. I don't really know how to edit images though, I just have an app on my phone that makes it easy.

I tried to lighten your image (it is really dark!) but the quality isn't very good. I also just snagged a screenshot off a Youtube video of the same scene that looks a little better.

Please use (or not) what you want and delete what you don't want. Hope something works.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:30, March 23, 2018 (UTC)

Re: telescope page
Yes; check with logo8th though - he has the images and I think at one point intended to make a page.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  10:48, March 24, 2018 (UTC)

Another page to consider deleting
Could you take a look at Ice Dragons? I'm not sure the page is necessary.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:53, March 25, 2018 (UTC)

I'm on my phone at the moment, but I had no idea that Ludia has a forum! Why would they leak this stuff early instead of having a surprise? Since it is a legit leak sure I can try. It is possible they might end up being too small.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  21:24, March 25, 2018 (UTC)

Here is "Coppertop". Quality is way better, but a little smaller, I think? Let me know if this is fine, and then I can work on the others.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:47, March 26, 2018 (UTC)

I added transparencies for the first set of new dragons above. I'll work on the second set over the next few days.

Also, someone created the page Oswald's Tomb. I am wondering if this page is necessary? It could simply be mentioned on Oswald's page and Vanaheim's page.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:48, March 27, 2018 (UTC)

When you have time, there are a few redirects I forgot to mention that need to be deleted:
 * Wolf
 * Villainy
 * Lars Grimborn
 * Lobster
 * Peacable Tribe

Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:19, March 29, 2018 (UTC)

Transparent background images for the new ROB dragons are done! I did accidentally upload one without changing the file name - could you delete it, please? - IMG 4409.PNG

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  21:38, March 30, 2018 (UTC)

Done. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 13:36, March 31, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Pumice
Yup, thanks! I think pumice is the type of volcanic rock that has all the air holes in it like swiss cheese.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  17:29, March 31, 2018 (UTC)

Aaaaannnnd I did it again. I think I'm trying to go too fast on a mere satellite internet connection :/ Can you please delete these two images, cuz I didn't name them like I wanted to.
 * NikorasMoldruffle.jpg
 * NikorasHeirloom.PNG

Thanks.

At your convenience, can you delete Hairy Bottom The Great? Someone just created it but there is already a page for this Book character (Great Hairybottom). Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  12:51, April 2, 2018 (UTC)

RE: An idea for the Dragon Fight Club
Please, Tauriel, by all means go ahead! I think it is a great idea. The main reason as to why I added that comment was to inform others, as considering all of the dragon abilities in Fight Club 17 it was headed more towards a tie, and yet the Typhoomerang was obtaining most votes. Especially after seeing a Night Fury win a poll over a Skrill by 80% of the votes, I knew something had to be done to inform others about the stat and ability comparison xD.

But funny thing is, I was going to request you to do the same thing! Was just trying to get the right suggestion first. Maybe a Dragon VS Dragon table? Showing the stats and abilities of one on the left side, the stats and abilities of the other dragon on the right side, and the outcome of every comparison in the middle? Just a suggestion.

If I can help in any way, please let me know.

P.S - Thank you for finishing the new Legendary Dragon template for me, had run out of time to finish it yesterday :)

Scratblue (talk) 14:54, April 5, 2018 (UTC)

Red Death Problem
I was just about to add the new Legendary Dragon template for Rise of Berk to the Green Death page, when I noticed a few issues.

In the franchise, what does the term "Red Death" mean? A species name, an individual's name, a temporary name? Until recently the Red Death page was even named Seadragonus Giganticus Maximus. What about the Green Death? Are there two different Green Death individuals, one for each game, or is it one individual appearing in both games? Is the Green Death also a Red Death, or is it a subspecies? In which case, why don't either of the individuals of the Red Death species and Green Death subspecies have their proper character page? For example: "Dragon Island Red Death", "Dragon Island Green Death, "Darkened Green - Green Death" etc.

It is just very confusing, especially to categorize and provide proper specifications for, so just wanted to clear that out. If no correct answer exists, maybe I should make a blog post concerning this and discuss it with the community and/or more powered users? I mean, this is a rather large missing piece of information.

Scratblue (talk) 19:14, April 6, 2018 (UTC)

Hey, so I will post here my thoughts and maybe I'll also message Scratblue, too.

From what I can gather, the Red Death seen in HTTYD movie is an individual of an unnamed dragon species. Some fans have named the species "Chromatic Death", but obviously we can't use that here. In the absence of a species name, the species has kind of been referred to as "Red Death". So here on the Wiki, the species is called Red Death because we have nothing else to go on and we see the individual - named the Red Death - in the movie. I think it would be way too confusing to have a Red Death species page and a Red Death character page. Basically they'd be the same info anyway. Interesting to note: the Dragonpedia calls the Red Death (the character) a "Titan Wing".

The Green Deaths: because RoB and SoD are two separate games from separate companies, I think it is safe to say the Green Deaths are two separate individuals. Again, they are individually named Green Death of the Green Death taxonomic group. I think it is generally accepted that the Green Death taxonomic group is related closely to the unnamed Red Death species, such as a sub-species of this unnamed Death species is (or "Chomatic" Death species). As for SoD, its been a little while since I played "Return to Dragon Island" and I don't recall any dialogue contradicting that the Green Death is a subspecies? Do you remember? As with the Red Death, I think it would be too confusing on an already confusing topic to have pages for the Green death individuals.

So in summary: "Red Death" should be a species page and the default name for whatever the species is. The page should be detailed about the character Red Death as well. The infobox should be the dragon species infobox. The Green Death should be entered as a subspecies, with discussion of both the characters in the two games. I think last I looked each heading has sub-categories for each game and that seems to work, I think. The legendary template could be added under "Appearances" heading and "Dragons: Rise of Berk" subheading.

Interesting to note, and you may be well aware, is that the Red Death was going to be the Franchise variation of the "Green Death" from the Books, a Seadragonus Giganticus Maximus. Apparently they changed it toward the end of production to the "Red Death" for unknown reasons. There is no information that they intended their dragon based off the book dragon to be a Seadragonus Giganticus Maximus though.

Then the comic "The Legend of Ragnarok" came along with the "Purple Death" ... this dragon is generally considered a separate species altogether because of its completely different appearance, class, and abilities. Very early summaries of the comic called it an SGM, but those disappeared so I don't think it is accurate to name the species as such. Again, the Purple Death is an individual of a species not named except as "Purple Death".

DreamWorks really leaves tons of things unanswered :/ I wish we could find some stuff out!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:42, April 7, 2018 (UTC)

Just for the hay of it, I signed up for that Ludia forum where you found the images for the latest released dragons in ROB and posted questions about the Green Death and what exactly it is. Maybe I'll get an answer as to what Ludia thinks or knows. That way its something "official". I would do the same on the SOD forum, but I'm fairly certain I wouldn't get a response :(

If Ludia answers, then maybe we can pick their brains for other ROD-related tidbits!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:25, April 7, 2018 (UTC)

Background image and others
Thanks. I used the image you suggested in the header. Do you have any image suggestions for the toolbar? I don't know how to get rid of the thing Woolly Howl added that requires an image that is spread across the whole toolbar. That made me think that getting an image to put there that works with the current background is what I need to do, and thus stick with what Woolly Howl did with the previous theme of the wiki. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 17:56, April 6, 2018 (UTC)

Purple Death species
Hello Tauriel,

I noticed that the Purple Death (Franchise) is mentioned in the infobox in the Red Death as being an individual or subspecies belonging to the Red Death species, when both dragons are an entiely different species and belong in different Classes. Also besides both bearing the word "Death" in their name, both dragons bear virtually no similarities, save for a few general features like their fire type.

May I remove the Purple Death from the Red Death's infobox?

Scratblue (talk) 19:14, April 6, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you Tauriel, it just didn't make sense to have two separate species listed as individuals of one another.

I see User:Logo8th beat me to editing the page, oh well.

-- Scratblue ~ Talk Page  15:30, April 7, 2018 (UTC)

RE: Telescope Page
Sorry, I didn't see your question on my talk page until now. Yes it is perfectly okay to make a telescope page and to use my images to create it. I planned to do that myself eventually anyway. Go ahead. Lo g o   Dra go n Cre ator      22:31, April 7, 2018 (UTC)

Fight Club Suggestions
Hello Tauriel, how at you doing?

I wanted to make a few suggestions concerning the Fight Club, to be honest I see a great deal of potential in these fights, especially to entertain fans and users while they wait for the release of the upcoming movie and T.V show.

Maybe a standard can be devised, for all dragons, to level the playing field of battles. The more mature and experienced users could discuss the capacities and limits of all characters and dragons, and categorize them accordingly, dividing them in groups by overall power, taking stats, abilities, speed, agility, strength, weight, size, wingspan, endurance, stamina, and intelligence into consideration. For example: Category X contains the following dragons: Night Fury, Snow Wraith, Woolly Howl, Scauldron and Flightmare". The category explanations for each species could be explained on a Fight Club section in their respective pages. This would make Fights more fair for all contestants, preventing stronger characters and dragons from being set up against weaker ones, kind of like Fishleg's Cards.

Also, maybe Fight Clubs could be set with a certain amount of moves per voting session for each dragon/character, where people can vote for one move per character/dragon, with the most votes per battle resulting in that ability being utilized. Every move leads to a certain outcome. The voted upon move will be used up and be unavailable for the next vote, to prevent the spamming of certain (usually overpowered) abilities. This will continue every 2 days or so until all moves are used up, with the winner chosen at the end of a week or two-week period. A health bar can be added for both dragons, with each move dealing a certain damage and others blocking a certain amount of damage. The winner is the character or dragon with the highest health and most damage dealt.

This would make Fight Clubs way more interesting, relying on specific moves being used with correct timing, thus stimulating voters to know their characters and dragons instead of on the popularity characters. Again, this would make the battles more fair for lesser known characters and dragons, spicing things up.

This is it for now, as soon as I have another idea I will suggest it.

PS: Why did you remove the images for the Prickleboggle from the gallery in its page? Being a videogame-reformed book dragon, it will not have many opportunities to include images in its page, with firepower being one of the very few possibilities.

Scratblue ~ Talk Page  15:12, April 8, 2018 (UTC)

Hi Tauriel

That table looks great! I was thinking maybe adding some notes at the bottom concerning erroneous or inconsistent stats, for example: Timberjack's size, or the Skrill's speed. Possibly dragon abilities as well? Like the Timberjack's Fire Nova Attack and the Typhoomerang's Flaming Cyclone ability.

Other than the few things I mentioned it looks great. Looking forward to seeing it applied.

Scratblue ~ Talk Page  19:39, April 11, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Underwater Section in SOD
Yeah, I remember somewhat from "Secret of the Leviathan". However, I didn't realize we could go back afterwards! Yeah, I'll see if I can get some screen shots.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:28, April 9, 2018 (UTC)

I've uploaded and placed some images of those critters at the Ship Graveyard!

At your convenience, can you take a look at the Fish_(Franchise) section on the Fish (Franchise) page? I had added that to the page a little while ago, but really can't find a real species that looks very close to the SOD fish seen. Do you have any thoughts on what it could be?

Also, yes, I'll archive my messages soon! I want to get a few more sections in, so I don't archive active topics.

Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:37, April 10, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for checking. I have the feeling that the developers just add fish that might not be meant to be a specific species, maybe just something they have seen in their lives or something.

Also, SOD released a new quest and the Grim Gnasher as a trainable dragon today. I have gotten screenshots from the quest of the sun dial and three baby rumblehorns, and some other things. However the lighting in game where the rumblehorns are is atrocious in my game. I'll work with what I got, but could you try to get some screenshots in case the lighting on your platform is better? If it is, I can tinker with them if needed. Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  13:17, April 10, 2018 (UTC)

Can you please delete SOD-RumblingDocksAndSunDialClocks-SunDial2.JPG please? Seems I uploaded the same one twice.

If you get to it before me, I have images for the "Three Baby Rumblehorns" and "Sun Dial" on my Profile page to make pages for, from that new quest. I'm going to bed!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:04, April 11, 2018 (UTC)

Please delete at your convenience
Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:47, April 13, 2018 (UTC)

Done. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 13:29, April 14, 2018 (UTC)

Pagini care au nevoie de imagini
Spune-mi te rog paginile ale caror dragoni au nevoie de imagini ca sa se creeze noi galerii....Youngtrainer (talk) 15:38, April 14, 2018 (UTC)

inca ceva am observat ca ai sters imagini din galeria Singetailului lui Krogan, mi-ai putea spune dc si daca le-ai putea pune la loc?Youngtrainer (talk) 16:40, April 14, 2018 (UTC)

Snogglesong
Hi Tauriel,

I'll admit I'm not an expert on the various dragon species, but maybe you can explain it to me. I understand Snogglesong a subspecies, but when there's only one known individual, wouldn't it also be a character? One of our [newer] editors posted in Discussions about why Snogglesong wasn't listed in the Category:Dragon Characters from the Franchise page. I didn't quite understand why it wasn't there either, so I went ahead and added it.

I know we have a number of other dragons where there's only one individual in the franchise but separate pages have been created for the species/subspecies and character. I personally find this to be kind of silly when both pages are practically identical since they're for the same dragon, but I'm not going to gripe about it. Should a Snogglesong (Character) page be created then?

I do value any input you may have. 😊 Thank you, Tauriel.

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 17:10, April 14, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for getting back to me! And I understand what you're saying, but I already know what a subspecies is. Maybe I wasn't quite clear-- When there's only one known individual, couldn't it be both a subspecies and a character?

I remember talk recently about the Red Death being both a species and a character since it's also a single individual. Right now the Red Death's page is set up with both 'species' and 'character' templates and categories.

Or, another option could be to create a separate page for the character if we don't want to include info for both 'species' and 'character' on the same page like we do for the Red Death. We only know of the one Shellfire but it has a separate page forViggo's Titan Wing Shellfire. So does the Sandbuster with Wild Sandbuster, when we only know of the one. I personally think the second option is rather unnecessary, as it would make more sense to just include both species and character info on the same page (like we do for the Red Death). Also, if going with the second option, there's a lot of other dragons who would need an additional page created for them as a character if we are to keep the wiki consistent. You can see how that would be overkill. Yet at the same time consistency is important.

Do you see what I'm saying? I guess it's the consistency issue that's confusing me. That and the user who asked why they couldn't find the Snogglesong in the Category:Dragon Characters from the Franchise page was a little frustrated that they had to go about a different route to find it. It would be more user-friendly if it could be included in both species and character categories.

Sorry for the wall of text. Just trying to be clear in verbalizing my thought process. 😉

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 20:57, April 14, 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations on reaching 200 consecutive days of making edits. It is not an easy thing to do. There have been some users who have reached 100, but failed to reach 200. The first time I reached 100 consecutive days I got to around 160 consecutive days before missing a day. I started the streak over and I am currently at 330 some straight days which puts me on track to get the badge for editing for 365 days in a row on May 17th. Good luck with working towards editing 365 days in a row day by day, but good job reaching the 200 day mark today, and being the second to get to that mark. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 12:06, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

(Sorry, intruding in others’ convos again!). Congrats on reaching 200 day’s!!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  12:59, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Guide to the Dragons Books
Yeah, sorry, if you are referring to the Franchise "Guide to Dragons" Books, no I don't. I do have the Book dragons Guide. I might consider getting them if the price is right and would be helpful. Were you looking for something specific?

Also, I just Archived another 100 of my talk page messages, but messed up naming it. Can you please delete Talk:Ladybrasa/Archive 2? Also if you could do the protection thingie on User talk:Ladybrasa/Archive 2.

Thanks so much!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:40, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

So it looks like these books are out of print or something. Volumes one and two can be purchased used for a reasonable cost, but the third volume is too expensive, at least on Amazon and a used book site I looked at.

Incidentally, if you go to the Amazon page for 3, they show sample pages. The sample pages include the Hobblegrunt and Scuttleclaw (hatchlings).

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:12, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry to butt in to this conversation, but I actually have all three volumes. I don't currently have them on me, but I can answer any questions about them tonight. Lo g o   Dra go n Cre ator      15:17, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

I doubt it is a problem Logo8th, I've done it a few times :) HTTYD big fan, apparently someone has already uploaded the Amazon preview page for the Scuttleclaw and I just uploaded the Hobblegrunt one.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:25, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

Sure, I can get that information. How soon do you need it though? I'm unable to access those books until I get home tonight. Lo g o   Dra go n Cre ator      15:38, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

The Snaptrapper is 68 feet long, has a wingspan of 35 feet, and weighs 5,800 pounds. Hope this information is helpful. Anything else you need? Lo g o   Dra go n Cre ator      19:48, April 16, 2018 (UTC)

Images to be deleted
Hi httyd big fan, I've accidentally added a ton of unnamed images to the wiki. The image files are auto-named to something like 'Screenshot... '. Since I can't delete them myself, can you please delete them? I apologize as there's a lot of them. The images are all Rise of Berk related specifically images of Dragons like Royal Fireworm, Four-Man, Icebreaker etc. Thank you.

Re: Images to be deleted.
Yeah, you're right. Instead of deleting them you can rename them. However, there's some images which have duplicates that need to be deleted. How To Train Your Deathsong (talk) 16:58, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

To me it is a big deal because of hard it is to do compared to all the other badges since getting so many days in a row is hard, and it takes a long time to reach it, plus it resets if you miss a day. It makes reaching 200 days then 365 days in a row with an edit an achievement, of which few users reach it, and few even try for the badges. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 17:08, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Timing/Reset
Like Dublyn said, we are all probably reading everyone else's messages ;)

As for resetting, it does seem for me that it is now as you describe. However, in the past, it seemed to be different for me. For instance, later last year, I think, I came home from work and was sick (a cold) and fell right to sleep. When I woke up it was like maybe 10 or 11 PM and I uploaded a pic or something to count as wiki activity. The next day I was reset, and according to my activity log, there was a lapse of something like 30 minutes or an hour or so between the time I had activity the day before versus what I had done that night. Maybe I looked at it wrong ...

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:52, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

Crop an image?
Hey, sorry to both you about this, but is it possible you would be able to crop out your personal info from this image?

Or if it is okay if I do? I actually have a pic of the same screenshot:

If you don't mind using one of them and deleting the other, please.

Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:19, April 18, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that!

If you don't mind, I am going to vent about something I just discovered - I can't screenshot on Netflix anymore!!! I was rewatching an RttE episode and tried to take a screenshot and it came up as a black screen! I was able to do it just a short while ago. This means I won't be able to get screenshots of anything HTTYD upcoming or from previous episodes. I'm really bummed about this. I think it was because I finally upgraded to iOS 11. I think it is some sort of protection thing to stop people from recording the videos, which I get, but screenshots, to my knowledge, didn't hurt anyone and aren't illegal? Sorry, just venting!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:50, April 18, 2018 (UTC)

Also, please delete these two images:

Thanks

Well, at least I got through Season 6. I would prefer not to have to go with illegal sources, but when/if new HTTYD things come out, I may have to consider it. I suppose I could order the DVDs, but I don't think the screenshots from my laptop are that great. Perhaps I should invest in a new computer, especially since the DVD drive only works occasionally and I am in need of a new battery - again.

I guess word for the wise - If you have an iOS device, think twice about upgrading to iOS 11!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:15, April 19, 2018 (UTC)

Yay! I found a (legal) work-around for my dilemma! I still have my old iPhone with a NOT updated iOS and a NOT updated Netflix app. Can still connect to WiFi and take screenshots! At least for the moment :) 'Old' things can still be useful!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:00, April 20, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, and apparently RttE isn't out (except the first several episodes) on DVD in the North American DVD region and may never be :/ Kind of a bummer if some people want to have them as a collection item.

Re: SoD Expansions
Congrats on completing the other two expansions! I was going to ask you to keep an eye out for the noise windmill thingie in "Rise of Stormheart". I have two pics on my user page and the schematic is labeled "Noise-making Invention". However, I kind of remember one character referring to it as maybe a Whisper something? Whatever it was sounded like a much better title than "Noise-making Machine". Did you happen to catch what it was? Also I have two pics of the microscope, which I just never got around to making a page for.

Do you feel like the last two Expansions had a different set up and weren't as long? I liked them, but the ones previously just seemed to have so much more - more educational stuff, more quests and running around. Most especially compared to "Wrath of Stormheart". I was personally especially disappointed with the last one and the amount of science. It didn't seem like there was much and there were some areas that SOD totally could have been educational about. For example the food web and processes of dead material, animal death behaviors, importance of carrion-eaters like the vulture (as compared to Grim Gnashers), they could've even included like mushrooms since they are major decomposers! Also it would've been a lot more stuff to add to the Wiki ;)

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:06, April 22, 2018 (UTC)

Valka's Ball-Like Shield ...
Oops. It looked so much like the ball in SoD ...

Do you mind renaming the pic to "ROB-ValkasShield" please?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:16, April 22, 2018 (UTC)

Drop Down Menu
Good morning Tauriel!

By chance do you have access to editing the main header/drop down menu? I keep meaning to ask someone, but Stoick's (franchise) link is broken. And now the HTTYD3 link is broken. I was also hoping the Discussion Rules might be added to the Policies tab of the menu. All that's under the Policies tab now are the guidelines for the wiki, which serves no propose to most of the users who use Discussions. I don't know why they weren't included to begin with.

Thank you so much, ma'am! 😊

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 04:48, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Ok, no problem. And that would be wonderful, thank you! After the vandalism issue today they may be grateful if I didn't pester them again today, heh.

Thanks again, Tauriel!

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 05:22, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Pepe or Peppy?
Hmmm, I think they are meant to be the same creature. It's just too coincidental that both are pet Yaks and the names verbally sound extremely similar. It's probably a misspelling on ROB's part.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:07, April 26, 2018 (UTC)

Please Delete ...
Someone made another How to Train Your Dragon 3 page ...

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:00, April 27, 2018 (UTC)

Would you also mind deleting the Light Fury page? At least for now, until we get more direct information about it.

And that really sucks your timer got reset! I swear it seems like something with it changed in the last couple months. Are you able to upload pics from your phone? Not sure what your day is like, but there have been times when I think I might not be able to get on in a timely fashion because of work or whatnot, but I can upload a picture pretty quick from my phone to the Wiki and that should count as "activity". Since you seem to be doing the ROB quests, maybe have a couple useful screenshots ready to upload? Just a suggestion!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:02, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

Done. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 13:25, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

I have a question.
What is your password? HiccstridFan92 Is A Bad Administrator (talk) 02:36, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

That user who messaged you and undid some edits has been blocked. I am very sure it is the same user who I blocked a few days ago. Behavior is the same and name is a giveaway. That user was also globally blocked by Fandom Staff as well. Do you can contact Fandom Staff about this user? Tell them that the user is the same user but with a different account, which I said above is easily identifiable by the behavior of this user, meaninf it is the same person as before. I would contact Fandom Staff but it is too late for me to do it as I was going to head to bed before I saw what was going on and to come deal with it. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 03:48, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

Here is the link to contact Fandom Staff. That link takes you to where you can write a message to the Fandom Staff. I can't write it right now, so if you could do it that would be great. If not, I'll do it this afternoon. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 11:45, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

I just sent a message to the Fandom Staff, about the user causing trouble. Based on how quick one of the Fandom Staff responded to my message on Tuesday, and fixed the problem very quickly, I am hopeful that on the Fandom Staff will respond quickly and deal with the problem very quickly.

On another note, I remembered how you asked how you can become an admin on this wiki some time ago, and I don't remember if I responded to it or not, so I have something to say about that now. Based on the incidents within the past week, and particularly the timing of the incident last night, I feel this wiki needs another admin. One, because of the Admins, I really am the only really active one, as Annabeth does not edit much, and Woolly Howl has been very inactive and busy with school work. Secondly, with Woolly Howl being very inactive we don't have an admin actively covering the time where Annabeth and I are both asleep. Last nights incident made me realize that if I had not seen what was going on, and had gone to bed, the problem might have gone on for a while, or resumed at some point, if Annabeth didn't catch it or deal with it either. With these concerns of mine, I feel that adding another Admin is crucial, and you are the first user that comes to mind when it comes to adding another Admin. I can't give you the rights myself, but Annabeth can, and I will talk to her about this, and tell her that I believe that you should get Admin rights. You have done a lot for this wiki, and have shown through being a content moderator that you have handled having more rights than a typical user and thus are a great choice for becoming an Admin. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 18:05, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I might ask Annabeth if I could become a Content Mod (or at least maybe Rollback rights). You are very patient with all my requests to do something, but you are also busy with your own life and it'd just be easier to do it myself. Also it would be helpful if I could undo vandalism, and have some sort of title/small bit of power when I ask other users to follow rules and such, instead of feeling like a nag.

And, if you become an Admin this summer, we won't be short on Content Mods :) BTW, I'm for you being an admin, when yuor real life allows, of course!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:24, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

Pssst! 😉
"Petite" is a English word too. 😀 Commonly used in reference of a woman's size. In fact, here in America anyway, woman's clothing is typically categorized into four groups: Woman's, Tall, Misses, and Petite. The word is usually both displayed at the store and on the garment tags. I myself am a petite (only an inch taller than little Hiccup was). 😁 So, I don't see a need to change Astrid's appearance back, but now you know. 💗

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 11:55, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

Content Mod Box ...
As far as the, do you think we could change the pic in it? It looks kind of fuzzy and Fishlegs' head is cut off. What do you think about replacing it with one of these images from the Gallery: Dragon Manual?

I have also asked AlexaDragons what she thinks.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:54, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Name that Collection Item ...
It doesn't really matter too much, just wondering what some of the items are that appear in ROB as collection items?

The first one ... maybe an unlit torch? Drum stick? The second ... I haven't the slightest clue ...

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:43, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

Done. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 03:55, May 12, 2018 (UTC)

I noticed some of the pictures you uploaded have black bars on the top and bottom. That is not acceptable. The picture should have no black bars at all, as per the manual of style. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 11:38, May 13, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Defender of the Wing Weapons, ETC
Sorry for the late responses. My personal schedule/habits have been shifted these last couple of weeks or so.

As for the strange collection items in ROB - yes, I was thinking some sort of female figure torso, but that doesn't make sense? All the Bewilderbeast collection items are objects seen in HTTYD2, but I can't place that one ... doesn't really matter anyway, just a curiosity.

Thanks for the DotW image. I added it to my profile page. Someday I'll get to it ...

You may have seen, but ROB will be releasing new dragons, a new island, Drago's Bewilderbeast, and some other stuff on Monday (5-14). I have gotten the dragon images from the Ludia forum, just like you showed me last time, and have started taking out the backgrounds on them. I'll post them here as I finish them.

I've got two more to go ...

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  20:10, May 19, 2018 (UTC)

More about Auction Island
So I did finally message the Lead Game Designer at School of Dragons and he answered! I asked if Auction Island in SOD was meant to be the same island appearing in "Last Auction Heroes". His response was:

"It is loosely based on the concept of the episode."

- Lead Game Designer, 5/15/18

So ... it doesn't really clarify the situation. What do you think? I will also message Logo8th the same thing, since he was also questioning this.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:48, May 21, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah sure, no problem:

"Someone mentioned to me recently that SoD's Auction Island was meant by the SoD team to be the same island seen in the Dragons: Race to the Edge, Season 3 episode, "Last Auction Heroes", where Viggo was holding a dragon auction. There is some hinting that might be the case in the "Return to Dragon Island" Expansion (its been a while since I played that expansion). Would you be able to confirm or refute this? Also, may I possibly reference your reply on the How to Train Your Dragon Wiki? I am just trying to get the facts to add to the Wiki."

- ladybrasa, 5/15/18

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:40, May 21, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Bargemine
Ugh, this is like the fifth time I've tried to answer you ...

So you know those package deals that ROB puts out that last for about a day and include a dragon, runes, and wood or fish? It was one of those from a few days ago.

SOD has put out a new quest. I am going to play it in a few and will take screenshots. Just so we don't 'double take' images! There will at least be something to add to the Mushroom page - its about Snotlout eating bad mushrooms or something.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:32, May 23, 2018 (UTC)

What did you think these two were doing? It looked like they might've been arguing about something ...

Do you think it might be something to add to their relationships page?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:05, May 25, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Featured Articles - Summer 2018:
Hey :) Yeah, that sounds good to me. As for Featured Dragon and Featured Other, I suggest we wait a few more days since the Annecy Film Festival and the HTTYD 3 trailer are right around the corner. I would like one of the articles to feature completely new content related to the upcoming movie. The Annecy festival is going to take place on June 14 and it's going to reveal new dragons and worlds in a behind-the-scenes footage presented by Dean. Since we change featured articles so rarely, it would be nice to have that included for summer 2018. 😊  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 10:01, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for including me :) For Featured Character, Heather sounds fine! Though you have worked alot on Chicken (character) as well recently. If she hasn't been featured, she ought to be as well. For Featured Dragon - is that for Franchise Dragon species, characters, or any dragon? What about Book species/characters? And Featured Other - is that just anything else? Perhaps showcasing some lesser-known media?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:05, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

Hey! Glad to be back! I’m perfectly fine with Heather for Featured character. I personally think that the Featured Dragon should be one of the newer dragons released in RTTE. But then again, Ladybrasa mentioned the books above, and now that I think of it, the Books do deserve a lot more recognition, so I would suggest one of the cleaner, longer articles like Seadragonus Giganticus Maximus or Common or Garden Dragon (Books). As for featured other, how about something other than Media to shake things up? Perhaps a location? Also, AlexaDragons did mention the Annecy festival and while I think it would be really cool to showcase new stuff, I think it would be better to mind the spoiler policies since the film has not yet been released and it would be best to have a featured article that everyone can read. --https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  14:27, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

Ah, that's true, and yeah I guess I didn't consider the spoiler-factor. Well, I like the idea of featuring something from the books like LadyBrasa and Woolly suggested. Maybe Featured Other could be a comic book or a voice actor. --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 14:51, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

How about the Doomfang for Dragon Species? I feel like we have done the Seadragonus Giganticus Maximus and Common or Garden Dragon (Books) in the (maybe distant) past. For Featured Other, maybe one of the plant or animal pages like Cat (Franchise)? Or a voice actor like AlexaDragons said. Maybe Mark Hamill, just because Star Wars is especially big right now?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:02, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps it was Toothless (Books)? I remember seeing the image displayed. As for a "Behavior" section, I might be able to cobble something together ... The problem is, is that Toothless is the only Common dragon whose behavior we see, but it turns out he is not a Common or Garden at all. As for the Doomfang, I can add more text - I have some quotes and things to add anyway, since I am working (very slowly) on How to Cheat a Dragon's Curse, in which the Doomfang is prominently featured (but I'm not done yet).

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:30, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

Good morning ma'am! (well, it's still morning where I am), As I'm somewhat late to the party I read the other suggestions and I'm all for Heather being featured. I like the little Garden or a Common Dragon too, though I'm partial to the Mood-Dragon. As I'm not too familiar with the books however, I'm not sure if all its info is entered and correct. But if we're by chance looking to shine a spotlight on an article that's a little less in the spotlight already, I nominate Mood-Dragon.

As for the "Other" category, I kind of like the idea of Mark Hammel being featured. The real world humans are conflicting though because I remember Woolly herself saying only info relating to the franchise was to be entered into their pages, so no personal biography or filmography other than their HTTYD work was suppose to be on their pages. So a lot of the cast/crew pages are not up to standard unless the admins want to loosen that rule. Because, realistically, aside from maybe Dean and Cressida, how much info are we really going to find on them that relates to the franchise? All their pages would be doomed to remain virtually empty, which of course would also make them Stubs. That's just a gripe I've had for a while. 😒 But if Mark isn't applicable, than I nominate Cressida Cowell. Her page is full and most of it is HTTYD related.

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 16:08, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't know. My mind's been on other things.--

I’m alright with Dublyn’s suggestion on Cressida Cowell! --https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  22:51, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

Patoadam (talk) 17:45, May 30, 2018 (UTC)

Hi! There is a petition going on about new season of Dragons race to the Edge. If you haven't signed it yet please do so in the following link:

https://www.change.org/p/dreamworks-tv-show-after-how-to-train-your-dragon-2-and-before-how-to-train-your-dragon-3

SUre thing! I’ll have the round icons up by today. --https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  00:15, June 2, 2018 (UTC)

Just changed the icons for the Featured Articles. Also, I have updated the Wikia notifications :^) https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  08:24, June 2, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Taron Egerton
Hi Tauriel!

No unfortunately, I can't find any proof yet that he was given a small role. My comment on his page still stands: we may need the page later, but we may not. Even if he was given a line or two there's no guarantee he'll even be credited. The page shouldn't have been created so prematurely. In fact the user who created it has four accounts that I know of, all of which have been blocked on other Wikis for editing unconfirmed and fan made info into pages. Two of his accounts are blocked on ours for socking. So yeah, I say go ahead and delete the page.

Haha, I'm flattered that I'm becoming the investigative user. Thanks Tauriel! 😊

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 04:38, June 3, 2018 (UTC)

Now that it is June, let me know when you feel you will become more active again, so then I can let Annabeth know at that time and have her give you admin rights. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 14:38, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

You can change your name only once. When I was having my username changed, I expected to take up to a day to do, but it took less than hour if I remember correctly. But it is always good to be prepared for it lasting a long time, rather than it being fairly quick, and changing your name while you are inactive is the best time to do it. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 15:47, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

Hey! If you don't already know, the rename request was recently changed. You can change it yourself at Special:UserRenameTool.--

Dragon Stages Images + Links
Hello! Just a quick message. I've been cleaning up a few of the Dragon Species pages and if you probably know, there is a slideshow under the Physical Appearance section. Do you think this slideshow is necessary? I personally find that it sticks out a lot. I feel that it should be changed to individual photos of the egg and Titan Wing form only. DO let me know what you think about it.

Also, as most of these pages are incredibly lengthy, I have noted a major inconsistency with linking. A recap: the current policy in the Manual of Style is to link only the first mention of article name, unless the page is really long, then links should appear once more around the 3/4 mark of the page. However, I have noticed a few problems. Also, it might be tedious for users who want to add new information to check through the entire page, which explains why there is so much inconsistency.
 * 1) Some captions have links, others do not. Are image captions considered 'part of the article'?
 * 2) Templates like Quotes and ROB/SOD templates are a confusing bit. Should links appear here too?
 * 3) Lengthy pages are quite subjective, exactly how long must the article be to have reminder links?

Hence, I would like to propose this: Do let me know what you think about this. --https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  14:25, June 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) First mentions of an article under every main section, those denoted by == should be linked. This does not include sub-sections.
 * 2) Quotes and captions should never be linked, regardless of whether links have appeared in the article body.
 * 3) First mentions in data templates, so things like the ROB/SOD templates, should always be linked, regardless of whether links have appeared previously in the section or article.

I passed your message to me to Annabeth. I can't give you rights as I am not a bureaucrat, but Annabeth can because she is one. Also, yes the wiki has been busier of late, and we have had a lot of new users. I have also gone and left the welcome message on all the new users from the last several months, since the welcome message is not automatically posting itself on a new users talk page after their first edit like it should. The welcome message is important, and I took a good time in going through and finding the users where I needed to leave a welcome message. Anyway, once you have admin rights, you can edit the media wiki page that allows you to customize who your name looks when it pops up in the recent wiki activity, and recent changes. I would ask Annabeth how to do that because she made my name appear the way it is after she made me an admin, over a year ago. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 14:51, June 13, 2018 (UTC)

I am fine with you helping me with the welcome messages. There is one thing that I would love help with, and that is the merchandise portal. I created the How to Train Your Dragon Wiki:Merchandise Portal, and put links to the other pages where the merchandise itself will be listed. I started on the DVD page, but haven't completed it. If you look on the main page for the merchandise portal there are links to seven pages for different types of merchandise, and only the DVD page has been created. I don't know if I covered every type of merchandise, with the links I created to lead to pages for merchandise that need to be created. It would be a huge help to get the merchandise portal completed. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 15:30, June 13, 2018 (UTC)

An example of how the Merchandise portal is done is []. Click on the links that take you to specific types of merchandise on that portal, and you will get how to do the pages. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 15:46, June 13, 2018 (UTC)

Hey, good to have you back! Just wanted to check in about the last batch of new ROB dragons. There is still Stonewall, Lake Skater, Mosster, and Haulmauler that need pages. Will you be doing this or would you like me to do it? Figured I'd wait and ask!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:40, June 13, 2018 (UTC)

Hi! The general consensus for links are: It’s more or less the same, apart from the third rule. But I personally doubt that there will be that many repeated links for short pages. If you’re ok with this, I’ll update the Manual of Style. --https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  00:37, June 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) Captions never linked
 * 2) Quotes counted as part of the article body, so obeying the same rules
 * 3) Indirect mentions, like the words referring to the article that you brought up, should be linked
 * 4) Fresh links after every section

Congrats on becoming an admin! 😊--  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 02:55, June 14, 2018 (UTC)

Congrats on your adminship! You deserve this! Thanks for all the hard work you’ve done. Happen to have you onboard :^) --https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  03:03, June 14, 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations!!
Congrats on admin status, Tauriel!! You're going to do awesome!😀

Woot woot!! 🙌

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 03:04, June 14, 2018 (UTC)

You can change them on (talk)  03:06, June 14, 2018 (UTC)

So sorry, it’s Special:AchievementsCustomize. --https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  03:19, June 14, 2018 (UTC)

Re:Name Customisation
You can customize them on the MediaWiki:Wikia.css page. --https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  04:18, June 15, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply. Congratulations, Chief! As for the badges, as far as I can see, they look fine, thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:47, June 16, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Possible new HTTYD book
Hi Tauriel!

Looks like it's both canon and in the related category. Meaning it's all three movies in story book form, with pop-up image capabilities which make it extra fun for young children. So the stories are canon. But I see many other movie (and episode) in story book form books listed under the "Other" of the Books Related to the HTTYD Franchise page. So my guess is it belongs there.

It's hard to decide if it deserves a page of its own because it's also a collector's book, which it states under the description. The price is also awful steep for just a children's book ($50USD is a LOT for even an adult book unless it's something "special"). The publisher, Insight Editions appears to specialize in collectible books, and already has a number of DreamWorks publications in their inventory, including a Dragons activity book. So I'll leave that for you to decide. 😉

Hope that was of help!

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 06:18, June 17, 2018 (UTC)

Uh, Tauriel, I don't know if the welcome messages are automatically generated, but this user, who you just sent the welcome message to has an unacceptable user name, and also did counter-productive edits to the navbox they edited. You might be able to do your first banning with this one.

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 19:16, June 17, 2018 (UTC)

Light Fury Classification ...
Hey, I'm going to message the other staff as well, but I think we should make a decision about how to classify the Light Fury, whether it is a species or sub-species. Obviously it is subject to change as more information becomes available. Unfortunately, Dean Deblois - though he wants to be realistic/scientific with the movies - isn't really a biologist and has called the Light Fury a 'species', 'sub-species, 'variation', and probably something else at this point in his various interviews. It does matter to the Wiki, especially since we have separate templates and layouts and such for dragon species and sub-species. It also looks like it may be a source of conflicting edits and such.

My personal opinion is that the Light Fury is a separate species, as that makes the most sense biologically. Sub-species refer to different groups within a species that often are in distinct geographic areas and may have some different morphology, but that morphology is usually 'minor'. Like striping on a tiger being a little different or one sub-species is a little smaller or larger than another. They can also fully interbreed and produce fertile offspring and carry on the line. Species are differentiated by much more obvious morphological differences, geographic differences, and by the fact that two species cannot produce a new, fertile hybrid species. Certainly two species similar enough can breed and produce offspring, but they are usually sterile or sterile enough not to be able to carry on the line. Examples are mules, zorses, and various cat hybrids like ligers. If the Light Fury and the Night Fury are really the same species, then there would be a population of them especially since Dean said the Unnamed Light Fury is not the last of her kind. Also, while they both look similar, there is obvious major differences that speak more to a separate species than just a sub-species. Out of what we currently know, the Light Fury and Night Fury being two different species (but closely related) makes sense.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:57, June 17, 2018 (UTC)

hi just asking if you can help me get used to being on this website please

many thxs Anime 2104

Spacing between some templates
Hey! Concerning some of the templates - mostly the and  - a while back there appeared a large space after the template appears on a page. Previously, if a location had multiple Special searches in ROB, the templates for each search stacked nicely on one another and didn't take up too much space. However, now, there is a wide space between each search and takes up a lot of space on the page. It also puts a large gap between the template and any following text or heading. I just tried tinkering with one of the templates, but it didn't seem to make a difference. Might you know how to fix that? Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:09, June 23, 2018 (UTC)

Hmmm ... thanks for checking! I'll message Woolly too, especially since it looks like she created the templates!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  16:54, June 24, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I did too, and piddled with a little of the coding. Sorry, Tauriel, about your name, will do from here on out!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  17:18, June 24, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Drago's Bewilderbeast's location in RoB
Oh crud, totally forgot about that location! I have some pics somewhere on my phone for it ...

Yes, for now it should appear on the Unnamed Islands page. I don't think it is prominent enough to warrant a separate page at this time (with a "Conjecture" template). I'll try to find and crop the images - they'll be before Drago's Bewilderbeast appears (since I haven't gotten him yet).

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:01, June 27, 2018 (UTC)

RoB's New Summer Dragons ...
RoB pre-released upcoming dragons again on their forum page. Are we doing the usual? I'm a little excited to see that they will be releasing Krogan's Singetail to the game - I'm curious to see what they say about it/what info they give. They are also releasing Snuffnut. Do you want me to make those two dragons transparent?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:50, June 28, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I looked at that YouTube video also (how have they gotten it already?). Perhaps there will be a cinematic shortly. Not counting the roar and animation though, I kind of like it. I think its neat ROB used a dragon from the comic book. Kind of ties things together. As for the resource boosts, I never really use those anyway for any of the legendaries, so am not bothered by the Purple Death just giving an amber boost. I don't think ROB balanced the amber currency well in the game anyway. What I'm wondering about is why they released the Purple Death right on the heels of Drago's Bewilderbeast? Drago's Bewilderbeast doesn't really seem to fit. We already have a Bewilderbeast in game. Also none of the other legendaries are actual characters from the movies or TV series, but Drago's Bewilderbeast is. They could've skipped Drago's Bewilderbeast and given his boosts and dragons to the Purple Death. Or some other large dragon in the Franchise like the Shellfire, or another concept dragon like the Foreverwing originally was. Or maybe that dragon we see in The Serpent's Heir (well the back of it ...).

Welcome Message
It looks like the welcome message is automatically being put on new user talk pages after their first edit again. I am glad that it is working again. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 14:06, June 29, 2018 (UTC)

Block, please
Hi Tauriel,

Can you please block this user for cyber bullying. They created an abusive Discussions post this morning attacking one of our users, and I really don't want them continually coming back and creating more problems.

Thank you.

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 16:37, June 30, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry about the Thunderdrum I was trying to write its Diet and for some reason the blue infobox didn't work when I published the Diet and I was trying to fix it.Do you have any tips about that because it happened to me while I was trying to fix a mistake on the Fireworm but I somehow made it fine.Oh and if you could add the Diet on the Thunderdrum for me it would be a pleasure the Diet is Fish and Crabs.Thank yo. KatSlayerX (talk) 17:19, June 30, 2018 (UTC)KatSlayerX 8:19 PM 30/06/2018

Oh thank you for the help

If you could add the Diet for me it's Fish and Crabs Thank you again KatSlayerX (talk) 17:23, June 30, 2018 (UTC)KatSlayerX 8:23 30/06/2018

Gallery
Would you mind if I rollbacked your edits to Gallery: Krogan's Singetail? I feel that creating episode headings makes the page much neater and organized. There are also many other character galleries that set precedence for that format. Or maybe staff should discuss it, since there does seem to be a lot of variation with the gallery format?

Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:00, July 1, 2018 (UTC)

Well, indeed the article standard for Galleries seems to say to just title the first image for an episode, but the Manual of Style doesn't really discuss organization. Maybe I'm thinking of the Sub-galleries then ... I think it is worth re-visiting gallery format. I sort of remember Woolly talking to someone about it, but I can remember to whom or when. I'll ask the others' opinions before reverting your edits. What do you think?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  19:58, July 1, 2018 (UTC)

(I will be copy/pasting this message to the other staff again)

So it looks like we have three for one format and three for another.


 * 1) Arrange gallery pages according to episode.
 * 2) Arrange gallery pages according to episode only when sub-galleries are necessary, otherwise simply caption the first image of each episode.

I'd like to also throw out another argument for option 1 - People placing images in galleries don't always look at where they are putting them and just place them at the end of the gallery. Its a little more obvious if they are separated by sub-headings. Also, there are some galleries that might only have one or two pics for an episode, but they really ought to have more! Like images for characters that are not Hiccup, Astrid, or Toothless ... :P

So maybe we can split Gallery pages into episodes, but only when there is at least one episode with more than like, 9-10 images? I'm thinking that many subjects with only one or two images for an episode probably could or should be added to anyway. Also to clarify and re-iterate, when a gallery is on a subject's page (no gallery page), those images really need to be captioned with the source!

If everyone is okay with this, Woolly would you update the MOS and the article standard page for galleries? Thanks!

As far as the Gallery for Krogan's Singetail, yeah that's fine to have sub-galleries, I think no one will have a problem with that, though the number of images has been severely reduced - I deleted, I don't know, like a few hundred pics??

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  12:38, July 2, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for blocking
Tauriel! There you are! I see you have now seen the vandalism this user had been doing. Neandra and I had to deal with them a bit yesterday. They have been doing nothing but vandalism since they started editing. We weren't sure which admin to contact so I kept my eyes open for whichever one was online next. But you got to it before I could even ask! So thank you! 😊

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 18:10, July 3, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Unidentified animal in RoB
It’s a brain coral! :) Though Im not sure they come in a purple color IRL...

Also, have you thought about the suggestion for gallery formats?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  11:53, July 4, 2018 (UTC)

Yup, yup, I added more, proposing a compromise for gallery format:

"So maybe we can split Gallery pages into episodes, but only when there is at least one episode with more than like, 9-10 images? I'm thinking that many subjects with only one or two images for an episode probably could or should be added to anyway. Also to clarify and re-iterate, when a gallery is on a subject's page (no gallery page), those images really need to be captioned with the source!

If everyone is okay with this, Woolly would you update the MOS and the article standard page for galleries? Thanks! "

I've only heard from Alexa and Woolly. Hiccstrid and Dublyn may be on vacation or something, since its Independence day in the US.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:39, July 4, 2018 (UTC)

Wait ... not sure I understand? You mean "Also to clarify and re-iterate, when a gallery is on a subject's page (no gallery page), those images really need to be captioned with the source!" ? There I meant when there is ==Gallery== on a regular page, not a Gallery page. The images should have a caption what episode they are from. It was kind of off-topic, just wanted to clarify. If that is what you are referring to! :P

Also, changing subjects again, I was thinking about creating a Category for rendered/transparent background images. You think it would be helpful or just a useless category?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:06, July 4, 2018 (UTC)

Current ROB Gauntlet Event ...
Are you able to get a screenshot of the current Gauntlet Event 'poster'? I have, but it is titled wrong, I think? Looks like the one going on now is supposed to be "Incident: Ingredient Hunt"?

Thanks, Lady Brasa  (  talk  )  15:41, July 8, 2018 (UTC)

Please Block
Hi Tauriel,

Can you please block User:Skrillfire and User:Skrillnight; they're sock accounts. The user has a third account that they said they want to keep, so if you could disable auto-block (not block the IP address) while doing the block process.

Thank you!

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 07:29, July 9, 2018 (UTC)

Transcript?
Hello Tauriel! (I can call you that right?) This is hana :)

I didn't know there were transcripts here on the wiki and I just read my first one (Sandbusted transcript) and they stated that there's written complete dialogue and ACTIONS (if I'm not mistaken), aaaaand most of what I saw were only dailogues until I saw the part where one of the riders said "tears" and the editor purposely wrote (Tuffnut started crying), so since this is placed there, shouldn't there be movements also for the other lines?

Like on the first line, Hiccup said: Ah, just like how I remember it, (shouldn't there be a parenthesis at the end saying "looks at the bethrothal gift" so emphasize their movements?)

Heh, I'm only saying lol. I like to edit out these types of scripts but if it isn't really that necessary (or maybe I just misunderstood the meaning of a transcript) sorry for bothering :) I just wanted to ask so maybe I can edit out other transcripts as well (I like editing those kinds)

thank you so much! :)

ThisIsRiderHana (talk) 12:12, July 9, 2018 (UTC)

Tauriel,

Thanks for letting me know. I'll go read the manual now for transcripts in case I forget anything. Thanks :)

ThisIsRiderHana (talk) 23:38, July 9, 2018 (UTC)

Sandbusted Transcript Edits?
Hi tauriel, its Hana again.

I made a few edits on the transcript for Sandbusted (as Ive said a day ago that I would) and thought of asking you first before I continue. Im not too sure whether the edits I made are right for the transcript, so I stopped editing midway to ask if its correct editing. I dont really want to be publishing an edit that's completely wrong.

Ive watched sandbusted a couple of times so dont worry about not gettibg the imformation right :) Im just worried about the format. If you have time, could you kindly check the edit I made and if it is wrong, I'll just erase my edits and start again :)

Thanks!

ThisIsRiderHana (talk) 00:12, July 10, 2018 (UTC)

thankyou for the tip. I'll be editing it out right now

ThisIsRiderHana (talk) 06:54, July 10, 2018 (UTC)

No Relationship Article?
Hay Tauriel, its hana. Can I ask if there's really no article about the twins and Barf and Belch's Relationship, I've noticed that all the other riders have relationship articles with their dragons except for the twins... Or maybe I'm just not looking hard enough. Thanks! :)

ThisIsRiderHana (talk) 10:57, July 13, 2018 (UTC)

Alright... I guess I could... Although I'm not used to making and adding stuff to articles. I'll try though. Thanks so much! ThisIsRiderHana (talk) 10:59, July 13, 2018 (UTC)

A question though... Should I separate it to "Ruffnut and barf's Relationship" and "Tuffnut and Belch's Relationship"? Or just keep both of them in one article since there's only one dragon? :/ ThisIsRiderHana (talk) 11:03, July 13, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you :) I'll go create the article now :D ThisIsRiderHana (talk) 11:27, July 13, 2018 (UTC)

Edits on New Article
Hey Tauriel :) Thankyou for the guide, I'm done making the article although I'm having some trouble adding links to some pages heheh... I still don't know how to add links although I've managed to add some to a few. Can you check the article and maybe add some links? I haven't added some writings to some sections, i've only written one which is the HTTYD section, aside from that, nothing else. From what I know, this article should be a Stub Article ( am I right?), but I don't really know how to add that template. Could you add it as well?

Sorry! I'd do it myself but I'm not comfortable with editing these things heh. I'll try and see what I can do so far but aside from that, could you check it and say whether the format is wrong or not? Thank you so much!

(Also... I didn't get a badge XD. I've added an article but until now, I still didn't get the badge for adding an article to a category. Do you know why? D: )

Thanks so much :) ThisIsRiderHana (talk) 12:09, July 13, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Happy Birthday!
Thank you so much Tauriel! :) 🌹 Hana  (  talk  ) 05:17, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

The Berkery?
Hello Tauriel, Me again XD. Can I ask something concerning ''The Berkery? ''I was editing an article and wanted to link in the place where the dragons went on "Gift of the Nightfury" so i searched the name of the place. I saw the "Berkery" so I pressed the link and the results of "The Berkery" stated that it was a place only seen in the GAMES. and that caused some confusion :( If this really was the name of the place, shouldn't it be stated that it's also shown in the franchise? And aside from that, the pictures present in "The Berkery" article was so few and none of them matched the one I ws looking for.

Is this an error? Maybe a false edit? Because I've been editing a lot that concerns the "Gift of the Nightfury" and I was sure that the place the dragons went to lay their eggs was named "The Berkery" (as said in the GotNF Article) but now I'm just confused :( Thanks so much!

🌹 Hana  (  talk  ) 07:58, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Oh! okay, thanks for explaining :) I wish I'd known sooner though :( I've edited a few articles already and I always described it as "The Berkery", hopefully I can remember and re-edit those articles again.

PS Yeah, I just changed it today, and I got some help from Dublyn on it. But now I fear she has to help a lot of people now XD People noticed I changed my signature and now they're asking me how I did it because they want to customize THEIR signature. Some of my close friends already went and approached Dublyn Xd (Sorry Dublyn 😂)

➣🌹 Hana  (  talk  ) 13:47, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Oh! Thanks so much for pointing it out! I already sent Dublyn a message, better delete it now hil she still hasn't read t Xd ➣🌹 Hana  (  talk  ) 14:01, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Please block
(I'm copying/pasting to all active admins for whoever sees this first) We need User:Httyd.Is.BS blocked ASAP please. They're posting profanity laced and pornographic language on Discussions.

Thank you.

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 21:10, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Meathead Islands Format
Hey tauriel, (me again XD do say if i'm messaging you too much),

I want to ask something concerning the format of Locations Articles. I was looking through the locations that are present in Books and most of what I saw were article stubs so I took it upon myself to edit just a few (The ones that i was sure of. I don't want to go editing something i dont even know), so I satrted on something I was familiar with. Meathead Islands.

I looked and saw that not much was shown on the article and it was really confusing (especially on the part where they wrote what places to see on each island). Luckily, i've written descriptions to ALL of them so a lot of information has been added buuuut Im not too sure with the format I placed. I used Bullets :( I'm not sure if it fits with the fornat but I thought it would be okay and I understood and read it better with bullets.

Can you check the format and maybe edit it if it is wrong? i'm not familiar with the formats for each article, sadly.

Thanks so much! :)

'PS is there a guide for the format of every article? If there is, where can I see it?'

➣🌹 Hana  (  talk  ) 01:14, July 16, 2018 (UTC)

Alright, I will! Thank you :) ➣🌹 Hana  (  talk  ) 03:58, July 16, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Useful Tool
Yeah, I know about it. I remember trying it once but kept getting errors. I think the files were too big and it only uploaded some and I had to figure out which ones... or something like that. However, not that you mentioned it, I am able to easily convert the PNGs to JPGs so it might be worth trying it again!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:36, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

Tips on dealing with potential upcoming instalment
Greetings,

I'm from the Madagascar Wiki, and recently a trademark application for a new Madagascar title by DreamWorks was found on TradeMarkia. And since the title is for an unknown and potential upcoming instalment, if you don't mind me asking (since you have once dealt with HHTYD3), do you mind giving me some tips on how to deal with these sort of things?

The Wiki crew is currently not really big, and it would be nice to have some help from one of our affiliates in hopes that we may do this smoothly.

Thanks a lot,

Selamat Maju Jaya, Brendan Boman - 8:13AM, 21st July, 2018 (MYT)

Re: Tips on dealing with potential upcoming instalment
I see.. Well that's okay, I'll ask one of them. Thanks and sorry for bothering ^^;

Selamat Maju Jaya, Brendan Boman - 1:00PM, 21st July, 2018 (MYT)

Medical Stuff and Templates
So, I have a question for you. In How to Cheat a Dragon's Curse, there is the illness Vorpentitis. We have that page on it, and I wanted to edit it and fix it up. In the Book, there are these two images with a poem about Vorpentitis:

So I was thinking about making an infobox for illnesses/diseases and such. There aren't many in the Books and Franchise, but there are some. I just tried both Explorer and Firefox to make a template, and some 'builder' popped up. Is this happening to you? Is the builder okay to use, or will it mess up coding and such (similar to 'source' vs 'visual' editors)?

Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:59, July 25, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah ... I don't know about that 'builder'. I made a template with it - Template:Med Infobox - but I don't like the coding terms for it. Like it says "title1" and "image1", for example. I'd rather it just say "Title" and "Image". Additionally, when I go to edit it through the page, it goes right to the builder. I can't edit the page to add a Usage section or put an Example box or even put Categories. I don't have the 'builder' pop up if I go to the Practices Infobox, for example. If you have a free moment, could you take a look? I'll try it out as is in the mean time.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:36, July 27, 2018 (UTC)

(Later ...) Please do look it over when you have time, but I think I figured stuff out. There was a tiny set of brackets in the lower right-hand corner that was a link to a 'source' mode, and I was able to clean things up that way! Check out the Vorpentitis page for the infobox in use.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:11, July 27, 2018 (UTC)

Please rename and delete ...
Hi! At your most suitable time, could you please rename File:Drgon Hero - Skullcrusher.jpg (accidentally made a typo - in the 'Drgon' part) and delete File:To_the_rescue.jpg? It is a duplicate of File:Skullcrusher &amp; Stoick To the Rescue.jpg - Didn't realize early enough that it was already on the wiki. Thank you and sorry for the hassle. Lasscess (talk) 03:41, July 30, 2018 (UTC)

I was looking at the Gallery: How to Train Your Dragon 2 / Screenshots, and was overwhelmed by how pictures were there. I looked through it and saw hat were some places of excessive screenshots. One of us has to go through that and trim it down. It might not be the only gallery that needs to be trimmed down, but because it has so many pictures, it is important to delete the excessive, unnecessary images in that gallery. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 13:39, July 31, 2018 (UTC)

A Question
Hi Tauriel - I am seeking your opinion on the filmography layout that I edited on T.J. Miller's page. I didn't provide a before and after look here because I think it's better if you see it for yourself. You can somewhat compare the difference with Brook Chalmers', though. Anyway, I thought the white areas were a bit too eye-catching from the rest as its color is very different from the wiki in general. So ... I did some customization here and there. Please let me know what your thoughts are on this and anything else you would like to suggest. Thanks! Lasscess (talk) 00:14, August 2, 2018 (UTC) (I will be copy/pasting this message to the other staff as well)

I really appreciate that! Thank you again. Lasscess (talk) 21:53, August 5, 2018 (UTC)

I can start going through Gallery: How to Train Your Dragon 2 / Screenshots tomorrow. I will have plenty of time the next couple of days to work on trimming down the pictures in the gallery. I also know for a fact that Gallery: How to Train Your Dragon (film) / Screenshots has an excessive amount of pictures on it and that also needs to be gone through and trimmed down. So, I am thinking that I can work on one while you work on the other. I will go through the first page and trim down the amount of pictures, while you can the do the second gallery I listed. I think that way one person doesn't have to go through to galleries with overwhelming amounts of pictures. HiccstridFan92 (talk)

Media Navbox
Hey, I was thinking of removing the "Books" subsection in the navbox. Just below it is "Spin-off/Related Books", which is essentially the same thing. Listed under "Books" is pretty much just some of the comics, which already have their own Navbox. What do you think?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:49, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

Battle/Defender dragons rise of berk
The current name for battle dragons are now defender dragons. Can you change the battle dragons from rise of berk to defender dragons? Like this:

Defender Smothering Smokebreath

Current:

Battle Smothering Smokebreath

These are examples.

Also here is a list of defender dragons from rise of berk:

https://riseofberk.wikia.com/wiki/Defender_Dragons_Listed_Chronologically_in_Collection_Order Bramble  cloud  17:45, August 18, 2018 (UTC)

New RoB Dragons - Fall
I'm starting to work on the new dragons, so I'll begin posting them below!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:04, August 19, 2018 (UTC)

Past Flight Club Match error
The winner of the twenty-third flight club match was Toothless, but it says Sleuther won with 46.96% of votes. Please fix this because the page was protected and I can't edit it! Bramble cloud  21:18, August 20, 2018 (UTC)

Where did you find Defenders and Riders of Berk hd?, cuz the quality of your images changes dramatically.Youngtrainer (talk) 09:06, August 27, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Featured Articles - Autumn 2018
Hi Tauriel,

Agreed about the Skrill being featured dragon. And I personally would like to nominate Ruff as featured character. Aside from Hiccup and Astrid, she had the most attention in HTTYD2. And a scene previewed at Annecy indicated that she's the only one who can mention marriage without everyone freaking out. So it's hinted she'll be getting a lot of attention again in HTTYD3. Her page would need some cleaning up, but at least it's one of the shorter pages.

I also agree with Dragonvine but have some concerns. When exactly do you plan to post the featured articles? And how complete is the page expected to be when they're posted? Because I don't know if any of the reliable editors have the novel yet, and only a few of us have mentioned we're getting it ASAP after its publication date next week. I have it pre-ordered but it's not due to be delivered until the 11th for me and I still may not be able to read it for a few more days. I know HiccstridFan has it pre-oredered too but he may not be getting it much earlier. Do we want to obligate the few who get their hands on it first to flesh out the page per Article Standards immediately? Or should we make an exception this season and allow a Stub article to be among the featured articles (at least until we can get around to fleshing it out)?

That's my input for now. Thanks for including me in the decision making. 😊

--🍀 ~ 08:59, August 31, 2018 (UTC)

I'd say I am fine with both of the choices for featured other and featured dragon. As for character I am fine with Ruffnut as being the featured character. In terms of Dragonvine, and as as a response to DublynT, I should be getting my copy of Dragonvine on September 4th, the day it is released. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 13:14, August 31, 2018 (UTC)

Hey :) Dragonvine as Featured Other and the Skrill as Featured Dragon sounds good to me. As for Featured Character, I would personally like to nominate Stoick. Many fans were greatly saddened by his death and it's essentially what leads up to the events of both Dragonvine and the third installment. But I am fine with Ruffnut as well. --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 13:38, August 31, 2018 (UTC)

Those are good suggestions. As for the main character, uh, maybe Tuffnut?--

That's what I thought; featured articles being posted on Sept 1. And ok, so we're making an exception for Dragonvine then. Just wanted to make sure. 😊

--🍀 ~ 16:58, August 31, 2018 (UTC)

Re:Featured Articles - Autumn 2018
Yup, sure! I'll upload the icons by today. Thanks for informing me :^) --https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  11:05, September 1, 2018 (UTC)

Hi Httyd  big fan

I was just wondering, every time I edit dragon or other articles of spelling mistakes and stuff like that, I always get emails saying


 * /No summery edit was given/*

and since you are like one of the admins I thought I would go to you, what does it mean?

DeathSongLover (talk) 16:37, September 3, 2018 (UTC)DeathSongLoverDeathSongLover (talk) 16:37, September 3, 2018 (UTC)

Arrogance, Innocence, and Patience
On the top row below How to Train Your Dragon Wiki, under the Books Universe and under Dragon Characters, Arrogance, Innocence, and Patience are listed as Arrogance, Patience, and Annoyance. Please fix this! Bramble cloud  18:21, September 9, 2018 (UTC)

Don't forget the turkey!
Hey, as far as I can see, there isn't a page created for Butter-Bol yet. It is a turkey that is part of RoB's new fall 'dragons'.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  21:57, September 9, 2018 (UTC)

Ahhh, but it makes perfect sense :) I guess its a U.S. thing. Butter-Bol is definitely a Turkey, though they definitely used the chicken model. The "special guest for a special feast" is referring to turkey served at Thanksgiving dinner. 'Special guest' referencing being served at the feast to eat. Of course the Hooligans don't have Thanksgiving, so its just a 'special feast'. Or maybe a general Harvest feast. Thanksgiving and turkey for dinner is definitely a Fall idea for the U.S. And the name "Butter-Bol" is a play on "Butterball". Butterball is a company that is known for selling turkeys in Grocery stores around the U.S. They've been around long enough so that if someone says they are getting a Butterball, you know that they are getting a turkey. Also, the term butterball can mean a very round and chubby individuals.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:09, September 10, 2018 (UTC)

Do you need some help? Tell me how can I obtain more sheeps quickly I mean more golden badges...Youngtrainer (talk) 18:27, September 10, 2018 (UTC)