User talk:DublynT

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User talk:Annabeth and Percy

That's a lot of quotes, lol. I'll add them all as soon as I can. Thank you!--http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/f/f8/Toothless_Glasses.gif/revision/latest?cb=20161110045342 Annabeth and Percy  🎵You're scared, I'm nervous, but I guess that we did it on purpose.🎵  http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/f/f8/Toothless_Glasses.gif/revision/latest?cb=20161110045342 15:19, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Hi :)
Oh, I have seen these before! ;)

They are behind the scene footage from HTTYD 2. I believe they are from a special DVD release.

AlexaDragons (talk) 20:21, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

Please stop putting whatever that stuff is on pages.--http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/f/f8/Toothless_Glasses.gif/revision/latest?cb=20161110045342  Annabeth and Percy  🎵You're scared, I'm nervous, but I guess that we did it on purpose.🎵  http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/f/f8/Toothless_Glasses.gif/revision/latest?cb=20161110045342 03:12, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

When adding pictures on a page, the underscores that you used are strictly unnecessary. The final can be put in with it's name, no underscores needed. For example, it should be done file:Hiccup and Astrid Kissing Blindisded.jpg, not file:Hiccup_And_Astrid_Kissing_Blindsided.jpg. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 11:33, April 9, 2017 (UTC)

Sandbox
Hi! I renamed your sandbox into User:DublynT / Sandbox Because if of now, the sandbox you create is registered as a normal article for Wiki content, whereas of you name it like so, it will be registered as part of your user page. Hope you understand! https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  22:31, April 23, 2017 (UTC)

Screenshots
Hi! I've seen that you've uploaded a few screenshots from various films and shorts, like those from Gift of the Night Fury. I really appreciate that, but here's a reminder to upload those screenshots to the respective pages too. For example, any screenshots from GOTNF that depict Hiccup, Toothless or any relevant characters whatsoever should be uploaded to the galleries of those respective articles too. Thanks! https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  06:49, May 14, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate it! https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  09:40, May 14, 2017 (UTC)

Hi, sorry to intrude, but I noticed you added categories to some of the pics I uploaded ... perhaps a stupid question but, am I supposed to be adding categories to uploaded pics?? I apologize if you had to do so with some of mine!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:01, May 14, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Picture Categories
WAIT. HOW DID YOU GET EMOJIS??

I'm not new to the Wiki (but perhaps newer than many) and its definitely a lot to learn and remember. I don't find it very user friendly. As far as the pics, I woke up this morning and saw a bunch of emails from the Wiki and was like, "What'd I do wrong now?" :P Totally fine you did that! I'm going to try and categorize pics from now on, too. I'll also as Woolly for more details on categorizing them. Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  21:06, May 14, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the message. But how ami I suppose to add the boxes in my profile page. It'll be great if you tell me how to. Thank you.

And P.S you are kind, polite and helpful. I guess, one day you'll be chosen to be an admin. I will be very happy if you become an admin. And by the way, I still obsess with you. My country cricket team arrived in Dublin. And they'll play there. When I heard that they reached in Dublin, I started thinking about you. And I invite you to Discord. It'll be awesome if you join there. - Parisa

I have seen your talk page. And yeah, you're not the only one with the editing problems. If you have visited my talk page, you'll see that some of my edits were not liked by the admins. And I'm very disappointed. And I'm sorry about the that you created. But in my eyes, you're perfect for being an admin. And you have earned lots of trophies. I've just created only 650. - 	🐲Parisa🐲 (talk)

Barnacles
I see you added some info to the Barnacle (Franchise) page! Do you recall specifically where you saw them, so I might add more pics? If it was in an RttE episode, I could probably get it off Netflix and get a screenshot. Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:50, June 28, 2017 (UTC)

Tea
Hey, I saw you made a tea page! You seem to find lots of tidbits in the Franchise (like the name of that song with Tea in it). I am of the opinion, though, that the Tea page might be better categorized as an Object (as in a food item), rather than a plant. Tea often can refer to tea made from Black Tea leaves (as you mentioned), but as far as I know, we have no indication that the HTTYD Vikings are referring to Black tea. You also indicate that tea could be from many plants. The tea mentioned in "Snotlout's Angels" is specifically said to be 'herbal tea' which could be anything. Even the 'Yak Dung Tea' mentioned. Since tea is referring to a product of water and just about any kind of plant material (even digested plant matter!) I think it best to be an Object page, unless we get info that specific plants are used, in which case we could make a page for that plant. What do you think?

BTW, I did get two or three screenshots of the herbal tea that the Wingmaidens gave Snotlout!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:47, August 27, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I feel like it should be an Object page (like Yaknog and such) at least for now. However, it seems to make sense it can still have the "Plants" category though ...

Please feel free to grab the pics off my User Page. I'll get to it eventually if you don't. Also, there are some teas of plants from School of Dragons that can be discussed on the Tea page too! I don't remember right off the bat - lavender, I think? strawberries?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:48, August 27, 2017 (UTC)

I added info (rather hurriedly) but probably forgot something! Please feel free to use the pics on my profile page, but don't delete them unless they are everywhere they can be on the Wiki. I'm in the process of getting screenshot of less "important" things, and its a bit overwhelming - so much to add!!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  17:02, August 28, 2017 (UTC)

HiccstridFan92 (talk) 03:31, September 15, 2017 (UTC)

Congratulations for getting the featured user achievement!

Adelaidefan8 (talk) 09:05, September 16, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! And your edits are great as well. Keep it up! Adelaidefan8 (talk) 21:42, September 16, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Homeless Images
Wow, I didn't know you could do that! That'd help with clean-up, I think. For the images, I can use some of them, but many are repeats or already have better images. I can sort through them. User HTTYD Big Fan has recently been elevated to Content Moderator, so she is able to delete things now, so I'll get with her.

As for that weird black and white one ... not even sure what that is either? I don't think its HTTYD though?

If you haven't read the books, I would encourage you to do so! They are meant for a younger audience, but very good. They are certainly different from the Franchise, but you will see a lot of similarities and parallels.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:19, October 30, 2017 (UTC)

Quick Question
Hello! I'm doing up a gallery for the Great Hall and just a quick little question, where does this image: File:Great Hall Entrance.jpg come from? https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  14:59, December 4, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you so much! https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  02:27, December 5, 2017 (UTC)

Dagur's Armada
Hi Dublyn, you can call me "The Great and Only.... Dagur The Deranged!" or just Emma. :D

I don't actually know too much about his Armada, except that he has an Armada. Oh, I also know that Captain Vorg is the Captain of his Armada. Sorry, I don't know very much. That's why I looked for it, and couldn't find it. And I will be really busy Friday and Saturday. Thanks. Dagur The Deranged1 (talk) 04:53, December 15, 2017 (UTC)

I came up with a few more ideas. But first, this page is not great or even accurate. It's literary JUST about his ship in the game. I don't even play the game. So, I was wondering if this useless page could maybe be deleted OR become the page on Dagur's Armada. Of corse there would be a name change and all the page content would be overwritten, but the page is pretty useless if you ask me.

Next, we do have some good stuff to get us started here. All of Dagur's Armada is made of Berserker ships. I would say, because the Berserker tribe is one of the biggest, and because of all the ships in the pictures, his Armada is maybe about 50-75 ships big, if not bigger. When Dagur becomes chief of both the Berserkers and the Outcasts, I would say his Armada might contain more than 100. This is all the info I can get right now, but I will get more when the page is up, if it gets up. Thanks again. Dagur The Deranged1 (talk) 19:54, December 15, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Dublyn. Your always helping me. I wish I could do something else besides adding more info on the page when it's up. When the page is finally up, I'll be adding all the info I can think of. Thank you so so much! I really appreciate it (especially when Dagurs my favorite character). Dagur The Deranged1 (talk) 22:01, December 16, 2017 (UTC)

WOW! It's beautiful! I LOVE it! Thank you so so much! I don't know how to thank you enough! One thing though.... I'm not a very good editer, and there's one thing the page is missing: In the episode "Smoke gets in your eyes", almost Dagur's whole Armada is destroyed from the Smothering Smokebreaths. Once again, Thank you! Dagur The Deranged1 (talk) 22:47, December 16, 2017 (UTC)

Because we both came up with the info, I brought up the idea, and you made the page, does that give me the rights to say I helped create the page? I know you get the rights to say you made the page, because you did. But do I get the rights to say I made it too? Dagur The Deranged1 (talk) 23:07, December 16, 2017 (UTC)

Oh, and how do I get a 'contents' tab on my page? Dagur The Deranged1 (talk) 23:10, December 16, 2017 (UTC)

Ok, thanks again. How many times can I thank you? A thousand? Two thousand? How about ten thousand? Or have I thanked you enough already? I have thanked you a lot lately. Thanks again. And if it's that easiy to make a 'contents' whatever it was, that's amazing! Thanks. Dagur The Deranged1 (talk) 23:42, December 16, 2017 (UTC)

The 'contents' box diden't appear! I have three headers, but nothing happened. What do I do now? Dagur The Deranged1 (talk) 23:48, December 16, 2017 (UTC)

re: A Small Note
Thanks for letting me know. :) --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 18:31, December 28, 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dub! It’s me Parisa. Hahaha! Probably forgotten me. Ya know you’re one of a cool person in this fandom. So I’m requesting you to join the Discord. You’ll see another world where fans of httyd are much active and friendly. So I will be very happy if you join Discord. Bye!

At this point we have to wait and see what happens. It is incredibly strange that Dark Horse no longer is hanling Dragonvine, especially since they were supposed to sponsor all three graphic novels. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 14:53, January 11, 2018 (UTC)

Hi, I’m Parisa. I’m so sorry to say that I don’t have an FB account. How about just joining the Discord app. I mean it’s pretty cool. Just test yourself whether it’s fun or not. Have a nice day!

Yeah, I noticed that. Thanks!--

Where did you find the pic with the dragon hunters? Rhornby14 (talk) 19:53, January 31, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Problems
Yes, I tried to talk to that user, but he is a person you can't reason with. Unfortunately, content mods can't block/ban users, so we'll have to wait until Annabeth or HiccstridFan92 are online. I'm sorry!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  10:38, February 5, 2018 (UTC)

I can't find an option to turn off commenting (either it can only be done by admins or it just doesn't exist). I'll let a message for both Annabeth and HiccstridFan92 about this and hopefully one of them can do somthing about the user. Good night!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  11:11, February 5, 2018 (UTC)

Just letting you know that the problem has been solved and that Annabeth blocked the user. 😊

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  18:14, February 5, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah. I actually wasn't offended by him, only annoyed. Anyway, the block is for 6 months, so hopefully he won't do the same thing after it expires.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  19:08, February 5, 2018 (UTC)

I finally got a response from the other admins, and we agree. I've given you the rights. Welcome to the team!--

Yeah. It's just http://howtotrainyourdragon.wikia.com/d/g --

Hey Dublyn, I noticed the image that wasn't moving when I scrolled up and down; and that's pretty cool. Can you show or point me in the right direction of how to do that? Thanks!! ^^

( Brynabeth ❤ 23:26, February 13, 2018 (UTC))

(ok! thank you!)

I'm not aware of anything regarding the pictures. About the user, I didn't know she was bullying Httyd big fan. I will look into that. Thanks!--

Featured Articles
Hi! I first talked with Woolly since it was her idea in the first place and she agreed that we should change the featured articles at the beginning of every season (spring, summer, autumn, winter). Are you okay with that? If so, since March is only a few days away, what pages should we feature? I was thinking that the featured other should be Dragons: Race to the Edge, Season 6.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  13:06, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

just a heads up. the part about Vikings line span is for both the show and real life Vikings. putting it in the same dot point makes it sound like its only for the shows Vikings.

Problem taken care of
Mala's page has been fixed and moved back to the proper namespace. The user who vandalized Mala's page has been blocked. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 18:05, February 27, 2018 (UTC)

I did notice that the user vandalized those two other pages you mentioned, and took that into account when blocking the user. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 19:02, February 27, 2018 (UTC)

That user has been blocked. First off, for that illegal topic post in discussions. But more to the point the user has been permanently blocked for the most part because their username is unacceptable. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 18:36, March 1, 2018 (UTC)

Twins' Mother page
Hey, I see you made a page for The Twins' Mother. I was going to see if I could get a screen shot or two for the page with the subtitles on of the quotes. I only have access to RttE and Dragon Racers. I see you referenced a sentence about the womb from Imperfect Harmony. However, when I downloaded it and looked through the episode, I couldn't find a womb reference, nor is it mentioned in the Imperfect Harmony (transcript). Were you thinking of another episode, perhaps?

Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:36, March 3, 2018 (UTC)

Actually, I just did a quick search on the Wiki for "mom" and saw 2 or 3 other RttE mentions of the Twin's Mom. (Also another for Snotlout's Mom.) I can get to these, but it'll be later this evening. Since you made the page and are working on it, just wanted to mention it! (sorry, on the work computer after hours) One episode was Bad Moon Rising, I think.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:46, March 3, 2018 (UTC)

I Have A Question
Hi DublynT! I'm a member of the HTTYD Wiki and I would first like to say thank you because you comment a lot on my posts. (which not a lot of people do) Also I have question and I'm wondering about this. On your main page you have a picture of Hiccup that appears on the Screen. I was wondering if there is a way to put that on my page or is it just for Admins. I wanted to add a Monstrous Nightmare on my page, but I was wondering if I can. I just need that to be clarified also thanks.

From Dotcat

P.S. I love the gif of Toothless on your page.

Done. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 11:50, March 18, 2018 (UTC)

Hi :)
I spoke to one of ours admins and he agreed to delete the RR page for now. Since you created the page I would like to apologize that it has been taken down and also reassure you we will restore it exactly the way you created it once we get an announcement. After seeing screencaps of this wikia circling around on social media it became very clear that many young fans are using our wikia as the primary source for RR, which puts a lot of pressure on the wikia. It's also creating premature hopes/disappointments that might all be in vain in the end. I hope you understand why this decision was made. Also, thanks for being a great discussion moderator and welcome aboard the team. :) --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 01:48, March 19, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Freya'sday Fete
No worries, I saw that you were fixing links, which is of course a good thing, and that you fixed some I will (eventually) create pages for. But then I was thinking about how to let you know which pages, when I can't remember what the heck I just did ...

So yeah, sometimes I will intentionally add a link to a page not created yet, with the intent to create said page soon! Freya'sday Fete is one. There was another, but I can't remember what it is. To put what I am doing in context - I am planning on going through all the books and pulling out any information I can. The Wiki's book pages are pretty bad. So I am re-reading each book, taking notes and adding info to the Wiki. I just haven't quite gotten to the appearance of the Freya'sday Fete event yet in my notes. I guess I could create the page and leave it blank until I get there, but I really prefer not to. We already have enough stubs, some that have been sitting around for years :/

Also, since I have your ear and you seem to knowledgeable about D:RoB and D:DoB - do you recall any mention of the holiday "Dreadfall" anywhere? Or is it a game-made HTTYD holiday? I know in the games it is kind of derived from the appearances of the Flightmare ("Fright of Passage"). Or any Halloween-type holiday/events in the series?

Thanks so much!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  16:21, March 21, 2018 (UTC) -- I'm doin this cus I can. my favourite dragon is chicken Dragonnewt (talk) 16:30 March 21, 2018 (UTC) --

Actually, I'd also like to ask you, since you did most of the editing/content on Viggo's Terrible Terror - should we include the Terrible Terror Viggo used in "Triple Cross" to send a fake message to Hiccup? Should that Terror get its own page? Or should it be mentioned on the Terror Mail page only?

Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:43, March 21, 2018 (UTC)

I'll have to double check. Also, apparently Viggo used a Terrible Terror to deliver a message in "Defenders of the Wing, Part 1" as well, which I'll check out, too!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:31, March 23, 2018 (UTC)

So - facepalm! Yes, Viggo sent a fake Terror mail to Hiccup in "Triple Cross" while he was stranded on an island. However, the Terror itself is never seen, only the message. So, I guess it should be noted on Viggo's Terrible Terror page as Trivia or something and mentioned on Terror Mail, if nothing else. The Terror delivering a message from Viggo in "Defenders of the Wing, Part 1" is the standard generic green color. Could be Viggo's or it could be just a Dragon Hunter Terror. Pics already exist of it on the Wiki. There are other Dragon Hunter Mail Terrors that are just the generic green, so its hard to say.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:29, March 24, 2018 (UTC)

PS. Only if you want to - would you be able to fill out the "History" heading on the Terror Mail page? I think it was first mentioned in the Franchise in "Worst in Show"?? Or some episode or other in Rider or Defenders ... I haven't watched those in a few years. If you are able to do that, then the page looks filled enough to have the 'article stub' tag removed.

Sven
Hey, I'd like to call upon your Riders and Defenders knowledge again, if that's okay. Would you be able to verify Sven's appearance in "Smoke Gets in Your Eyes", "Cast Out, Part 1", and "Cast Out, Part 2"? I would like to tease out actual Sven appearances versus maybe Sven or maybe generic background Viking appearances. I've also asked logo8th since he created the page. I just don't remember these series as much.

Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:26, March 25, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that. No rush at all! Just trying to clear up a few Article Stub pages (we have over 100). They aren't going anywhere! Thank you! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  17:08, March 25, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much for doing that!!!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:44, March 26, 2018 (UTC)

That discussion was not pointless it was ment to talk about chicken #chickensneeddiscussionstoo Dragonnewt (talk) 17:10, March 26, 2018 (UTC)

Ok I'll stop and yes it was pretty dumb also I hope copy and pasting the entire Declaration of Independence onto my talk page isn't against the rules because I just did Dragonnewt (talk) 18:21, March 26, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. --

How do you know they're the same?--

I see what you mean. I am trying to decide the best course of action. Whether that be a block or warning. I rather give a warning to that user first because letting them know what they are doing is wrong, and giving them a chance to stop, is better than giving a block. Plus, a warning should be given in most cases before a block is even considered. Anyway, thanks for letting me know. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 16:38, April 2, 2018 (UTC)

Art thief is back on discussions Luna wolf already found the original creator https://mllebeckier.deviantart.com/art/How-to-train-your-dragon-2-drawing-54293066 --Dragonnewt (talk) 12:59, April 4, 2018 (UTC)

DRAGONS RACE TO THE EDGE: SEASON 6 TRIVIA ISSUE
Fine I'll stop. In return I think it's only fair that you tell me why this is not valid triva. FYI it was already there I just revised it slightly so it would make sense. So don't take it all out on me. Blu100-Jewel100 (talk) 13:17, April 4, 2018 (UTC)

Just to note, I just left a warning on the talk page of the user who is taking fan art and posting it on discussions and claiming it as their own when it is clearly not. If this user continues doing this I will have no choice but to block the user. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 14:35, April 4, 2018 (UTC)

After some careful thought and looking at the Fandom terms of use, the user you told me about is in violation of the Fandom terms of use. Stealing pictures and calling them her own is art theft, and can also be called as a form of plagiarism. This issue is one that is bigger than most, and needs to be reported to the Fandom staff, so they know about this one user's blatant violation of the Fandom Terms of Use. Then they can determine what the best thing is to do and possibly hand them an infinite block, and not just for this wiki, but for all wikis. The terms of use are important, and we on this wiki won't tolerate them being broken, and neither will the Fandom Staff. To note, if one violates the Famdom Terms of Use they can lose their rights and be blocked permanently. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 18:23, April 4, 2018 (UTC)

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Hey how ya doin uh this guy is posting jibberish on slenderyt discussion http://howtotrainyourdragon.wikia.com/wiki/User:Omid%20SAdGHi --Dragonnewt (talk) 14:43, April 13, 2018 (UTC)

The dude just posted a discussion that has nothing to do with httyd with this picture http://someture.com/account/shahab._.mehrabi/6710773382/followers --Dragonnewt (talk) 14:52, April 13, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Snogglesong
Subspecies are confusing and always bring many questions, like many other things in the Httyd universe. So far, the only subspecies seen outside the games are the Night Swarm and the Fire Terror, neither of them being specifically named in the show.

In my opinion, subspecies should be treated like a species page. And that's because I think of the dragons like I think of real animals. For example, the elephant. There are two types of elephants: African Elephant and Asian Elephant. However, the majority of people call the African elephant simply elephant and think of the Asian elephant as a relative/closely related species. Still, they are both in the same family and have mostly the same appearance. And that's the concept I use for dragons too. Take the Death Song and the Slithersong. They have the same abilities and almost the same appearance, excepting a few details like the horn and the wings. But, they are in the same family, let's say the Death Song family, which would also include Snogglesong. Another example would be the Night Terror which has three subspecies: Night Swarm, Fire Terror and Heartwarmer. All four closely related dragons belong in the same family, the Night Terror family, even though they have different abilities and habitats. Of course, this is only my speculations, so nothing is officially clarified by DreamWorks (yet!).

So, again, I think the subspecies should be treated as species, and only if there are specifically named individuals, like Darkvarg, a character page for that individual alone should be created. I hope I answered your question.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  19:13, April 14, 2018 (UTC)

Hey, sorry, I'm horning in on the conversation. I hope no one minds!

So character versus species/subspecies is confusing in the Franchise and most especially in the game, Dragons: Rise of Berk. For the specific examples you sited - the Snogglesong is a subspecies. The subspecies designation is given, technically, by the Wikia because this dragon is a type of Death Song/Slithersong which is different in a number of ways from the standard version. We are calling the Snogglesong a subspecies and not a character because it is implied there is more than one. Also, (I'm pretty sure) the player can have more than one Snogglesong in the game (though this reasoning doesn't hold true for all dragons ...). And it is not the only dragon from it species, which is the Death Song/Slithersong. We take a close look at the description of the dragon, and in this case, ROB has said: "Snogglesongs like keeping their prey on ice after encasing them in amber pellets. Talk about frozen dinners!", clearly indicating there is more than one and this representation is not meant to be a character. Not to mention we are not going to have a character page for every single dragon in ROB, otherwise we'd be having a page for the Nadder in the game or the Monstrous Nightmare in the game, and so on. They are just a group's (species/subspecies/population) representation in the game. Unfortunately, some of this logic can get extremely tricky depending on the dragon from ROB and its corresponding description. Its bad enough for some dragons that its a whole can of worms waiting to be open as far as what to consider them, and we have no way, that I know of, to verify directly with Ludia about what they intended.

As for the Red Death, the page for it is pretty much a species page, though there is some character categories in there. Technically, yes, the Red Death is actually a formal name of the single individual representative of an unnamed species. So the species is called Red Death for lack of anything else, as well as that particular individual is also named the Red Death. Having a species page and a character page would be way too redundant and confusing. So probably having categories for both species and characters in that case would be appropriate.

As for Viggo's Titan Wing Shellfire and Wild Sandbuster, those two pages were created very recently by new users, one of which just dropped a ton of new pages and never added anything to them. Personally I thought it was overkill, but no admins put forth any objections. Technically those users were not wrong, nor breaking any rules (because there aren't any). However, none of the admins or senior editors would have made those pages (or we already would have!). We only see one individual of the Sandbuster and one individual of the Shellfire, so technically yes they are characters. But their info and the info that is on the species pages are overlapped. That said, at this point, it'd sort of be a waste to delete the pages now, since people have put in effort on those. Another example taking a different route (more or less) is the Luminous Krayfin, a species seen in School of Dragons. There is only one representative (well, technically two if you count a skeleton of one) of this species. However, at one point, this individual is specifically named Lumie, further solidifying his as a character deserving of a separate page. At least I thought so, cuz I made it! So, in my opinion, if that Sandbuster or that Shellfire had been properly named, then I'd say definitely it needs its own character page, or if there were other Sandbusters or Shellfires in the show, of course.

Your overarching point though - consistency - is difficult to achieve. There is no hard rule on the Wiki concerning species/subspecies versus characters. Making one, however, at this point would have a lot of exceptions. And, as mentioned previously, a lot of the ROB dragons could easily go either way and be a point of debate. I guess at the moment, a case by case decision is best? As for the category "Dragon Characters from the Franchise", that might need to be cleaned up a little? I haven't looked through it thoroughly.

Is this helpful or more confusing? Again, sorry for interrupting. I had to type it out or it would be knocking around in my head as I am trying to sleep!!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  03:24, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I thought that you didn't know what the subspecies in the Httyd universe are. My bad!

Well, except for the Night Swarm, the Fire Terror and the Slithersong, all the subspecies are from Rise of Berk, meaning that they won't ever have an individual. As for the one that has the name of the subspecies, I think it's the same with the one that has the name of a species, in which case I would say it is just a generic dragon that shows how the species/subspecies look like and behave like, not an actual individual that would have another name.

So, again, subspecies pages should be treated like species pages, except for the infobox and navbox. As for the categories, there's already the Dragon Subspecies one, which I think it's enough, considering that there are no subspecies in the book series, thus a category like "Dragon Subspecies from the Franchise" isn't necessary.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:23, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

Discussion Rules?
Hey, I'm not sure if it is just my computer or not, but the "Discussions Guidelines page" is all stretched out and I can scroll to read it.

Also, I was checking because I was wondering what the policy is concerning talking about hacking? There is one discussion at present asking about Dragons: Rise of Berk and some users have stated that they hack this game. Obviously hacking is wrong, but on a personal level it is especially irksome because I also play this game (and pay for Netflix, and buy the comics, etc) and pay and play to earn the things I have, while others try to get a free ride. Yeah yeah, I know this is type of behavior is rampant and common in humans and worldwide, but still ...

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:53, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, I just realized I wrote "can scroll to read it" - I meant CAN'T! I checked on my phone - browser is Safari - and it looks fine, just not on my PC. There wasn't a link to it exactly - one appeared at the top when first viewing the Discussions section but could be X'd out. If that it done, I don't see it anywhere. I haven't actually downloaded the app, either! Perhaps I ought to, but I was under the impression if the page isn't formatted for mobile it won't show up on the app? This would include the "Wiki Activity" page. As it is in a mobile browser, I personally don't care for the mobile version of pages and usually click to view the full site (though that has been temperamental for me lately).

As for the Snogglesong, thanks for reading. That particular dragon though is one I am personally adamant about not being classified as a character, but see where you are coming from. As for consistency, yeah, to my knowledge there was never an actual rule, just one of those unwritten "rules" you pick up after being on here awhile. That's probably why no one except a new editor made the Wild Sandbuster page. Consistency within DreamWorks and its representations in games would be very nice and clarity, but we probably aren't going to get that :(   And I hear ya about ignored written rules ...

Incidentally, the Wild Sandbuster page isn't even totally complete, so I threw a "Stub" tag on it!

As far as hacking talk - I kind of remember there being a note or comment or something about not linking to illegal sites to watch RttE? Am I mis-remembering? I think this instance might fall under that because someone else specifically mentioned some sort of program or something to hack with.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:38, April 16, 2018 (UTC)

Detective findings
This user http://howtotrainyourdragon.wikia.com/wiki/User:HopeHaddok a long time ago posted a pice of art she claimed took her three weeks to make and found its most probable she didn't make it at all https://www.pinterest.com/pin/289778557243919576/ it should be the first picture --Dragonnewt (talk) 17:58, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

..
Don't you think I thought of that I already found that picture was from someone by the name of tenynn who made the edit for that picture and I haven't found the original creator but I doubt it's her. It says on her profile that she has a Pinterest of the same name but no deviantart account in witch I found the picture   --Dragonnewt (talk) 18:54, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

HTTYD tidbit
http://variety.com/2018/film/news/how-to-train-your-dragon-3-1202753864/

VERY quickly - came across the above and thought of you and your sleuthing ;) At work on a break (sort of)!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  19:58, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

Ahh, I see the Wiki is all over this tidbit! Yeah, I had seen that Discussions post about TJ Miller and his erratic behavior. Personally, I'm fine if they ditch him, especially if he has been accused of sexual harassment. I'm sure there are plenty of reputable voice actors with similar voices.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:51, April 18, 2018 (UTC)

I saw what you said in the post of someone complaining about plagiarism, and hating it. I saw you mentioned that there was issue several weeks ago that was resolved and the user got in trouble with the Fandom Staff. I am not sure what you are referring to with that because I don't know of anyone being reported to Fandom Staff and getting in trouble. For the other things you mentioned, creating a youtube video to humiliate you just because they don't like how you moderate the discussions, is just wrong, and I hope that video got removed or blocked by Youtube. Anyway, it is concerning that people take the way things are moderated, and how the rules are applied personally. Of course, you are never going to have everyone agree with you on a certain thing and in some cases a person leaves because they don't like the way something is handled. Of course someone doing something to humiliate those for the same reason is just wrong. A person can disagree, but humiliating someone else with a video, and other things is just wrong. Someone doing that is doing what is called cyber bullying, and doing it indirectly. Sure, I have to deal with the repercussions of users who I had to take action against, or had to undo bad edits of before, but not anything like you got hit with. But anyway, you are doing a good job moderating the discussions board, and that is what matters. Just keep on moderating discussions according to the rules, and don't let a few users who end up hating you, or leaving because of the way you moderate, put you down. You can't please all users while doing that, but the majority of the users who use discussions won't have any problems with you and the way you moderate. I can't stress it enough that having you as a discussions moderator has been a big help because I can't always check discussions, and that the discussions board is in much better shape than it was before you became a discussions moderator. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 19:31, April 20, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry to eavesdrop :) but wow.. I had no idea she had made a video about me! Although, I'm can't say I'm surprised, considering her general aggressiveness and troll-ish behavior (spamming links) in the past. It still doesn't give her the right to make videos about someone without their consent and try to humiliate them. I'm pretty sure it's against YouTube's policies. Anyway, her insistence that I must be lying is amusing, especially as she has no substantial proof to back up any of her own previous theories and claims. Everything I have said was based on interviews, tweets and hours of research. If you are interested, we could even talk about it in the Dragon Chat (I don't want to give my stalker new, original material for a video 😄). I would never make anything up out of thin air. Why would I? What could I possibly get out of that, especially for something that I'm so indifferent about? I have been discussing several theories with other fans and they don't always agree with me but they definitely don't try to spin it into something more personal or make it into a bigger deal than it is. It's just harmless discussions about fictional characters and worlds, and in this case about something that's purely founded on rumors. I think this girl just could not handle that you locked the thread and this video was meant as a 'punishment/revenge' more than anything. I saw comments calling me names and the 'B' word, which was pretty much her intention with this video. To have people hate on me. Unfortunately for her, I'm too old for this and really couldn't care less what kids on YouTube say about me. It is, however, unfortunate that her young subscribers might be inspired to act similarly towards someone else in the future.

I'm truly sorry you got dragged into this. Her attacking you was completely uncalled for. You were just doing your job, and like HiccstridFan92 said, you have been a great help to our community. Not only on the Discussion Boards but also on the Wikia itself. --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 13:28, April 21, 2018 (UTC)

Yep, I was blissfully unaware of its existence until this point. I think they might've assumed I already knew or they just chose not to give it more attention. Either way, I think everyone did the right thing by staying silent. At the end of the day, it's just a major overreaction to something so insignificant.😆

Same, tbh.😂 I did actually enjoy ROB/DOB and prefer them over RTTE. They are much more true to the movies. RTTE is an entertaining filler, though!

Right now, I'm looking forward to the third movie. Cinemacon starts tomorrow and I'm hearing we might be getting a trailer soon. I can't wait! I really hope Hiccup doesn't have a beard.😂 --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 14:03, April 22, 2018 (UTC)

How dare you remove my edits! I'm just here to harass another user, that's all. Cheetawolfnitrotyper is a bad bureaucrat (talk) 21:12, April 22, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I looked through that users edits, and took into consideration what you told me about that users behavior. That user is now blocked permanently. I can tell that that user only came here for the reasons you said above after being blocked on the other wiki, and not to edit this wiki. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 23:47, April 22, 2018 (UTC)

I am fine with you becoming a rollback, especially since you have a lot of edits, and shown you are a trusted user. You can ask Annabeth for rollback rights, and mention that I have given my approval. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 00:59, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Done! Thanks!--

Re: Drop Down Menu
Hi! 😊 Unfortunately, content mods are not allowed to edit anything related to the Wiki's appearance (theme, drop bar, notifications etc). 😞 You may ask an admin for this problem. I also noticed a minor issue: at the franchise events and practices section, Regatta is spelled Regetta and it leads to a broken link. If you don't mind, can you add this minor thing when you will message an admin, too?

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:57, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Garff
Shouldn't garff be under trained dragons for the dragon riders? I don't know. your more familiar with the rules then I am. Also congrats on roll back --Dragonnewt (talk) 14:03, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

What I ment was each rider has a part in their info box about the dragons they have trained and since garff is a trained dragon shouldn't he be in that part of the info box?--Dragonnewt (talk) 15:54, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

I gotcha --Dragonnewt (talk) 16:04, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

I took care of the two broken links. I will try to add a link for the discussions rules. I don't have time tonight, but will have time tomorrow afternoon. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 01:28, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Your Fault!
Ah ha ha! My powers of influence are working! Hope you got the other comics, too! ;)

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:49, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

I just blocked the user who was causing trouble as it was the same user with a different account, which is sock puppetry, so a permanent block was warranted in this case. That user also asked for my password on another wiki I am on. I removed that messagge, saying why and hit the box that said notify an admin, so I can hopefully have that user be dealt with on that wiki. That user left a note on my talk page here making it easy to identify that user as doing sock puppetry. Also, that user was also was using my username, like used an username for an admin on another wiki for their other account. That was the other giveaway that it was the same person who I blocked the other day. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 10:28, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for undoing that troll's edits on my user page. :P Cheetawolfnitrotyper (talk) 12:21, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Whaat?
I saw hiccstridfan was blocked what happened? Is it a glitch? --Dragonnewt (talk) 16:09, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Uh oh
I just did some detective crap and both hiccstrids are blocked maybe by blocking one it blocked the other? --Dragonnewt (talk) 16:29, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Reply
Apparently both User:HiccstridFan92 and User:Hiccstridfan92 are blocked. Cheetawolfnitrotyper (talk) 16:56, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Regarding global blocks
Hi, really, only the user themselves can ask for a removal of global block. The reason why is because staff will need access to the block id, or else they it will take them much longer to find the correct global block and remove it. Only the user themselves has access to the block id, because it's personal information. Cheetawolfnitrotyper (talk) 17:45, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

I am back. When I saw what had happened. I went right away to contact Fanom. I am glad they took care of the problem pretty quickly. The person who took my case said that they have the option to make username blocks case sensitive, and that option was not used. So, that person modified the block to be case sensitive, thus removing the block from my account, and IP address. It is what it is. I will work on getting the link for the discussions rules into the polices menu in the navigation menu at some point this afternoon. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 18:23, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Uh. . . wow. I didn't even think you could do that. Thanks!--

Re: Rollin' on Back ...
Thanks!

Actually, I was thinking about maybe asking to be a Content Mod. I keep asking everyone else (well, pretty much HTTYDbigFan) to delete pages or images and such. Also sometimes I do a little 'policing', and it kind of feels like it would be helpful to have a title or a tiny bit of clout behind it, instead of some untitled user paying attention to their business. Content Mods can do rollbacks. What do you think? Maybe two is enough, though?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:41, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you :)

I also hope TheWoollyHowl is able to become more active again (of course RL takes precedence!). She is friendly and was heavily involved in creating templates and site appearance and all that.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:03, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! I added all the user page 'ornaments' you suggested :) But dang, don't we have a better pic for the Dragon Manual we could use?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:40, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Pssst!
Oh, well, I didn't know that. Thank you for informing me!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  03:47, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Regarding the troll
The troll can get very annoying sometimes. But the only reason why the troll can get globally blocked in the first place is because the troll is also using other accounts to disrupt other wikis (such asthis one). I sent a message to vstf regarding the trolls on the other wikis, and I asked them to check and see if all of the accounts are being operated under the same person or group of people. Cheetawolfnitrotyper (talk) 12:40, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Ahh, but I didn't get to use rollback as he/she/it was only making one edit per page. However, Content Mod 'powers' did come in handy re-renaming pages the troll messed with, and didn't have to leave a redirect! And, I had actually just gotten into bed for the night and just had to have one laaaast look at my phone and then troll happened. I'm glad HiccstridFan was on, 'cuz it looked like were were just going to keep undoing each others edits ... Its kind of sad this person has nothing better to do with his/her life than just vandalize Wiki pages.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:40, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

That page that one troll created is one I can't do anything with. So, we have to let the Fandom Staff know so they can delete it. The person two new accounts, with inappropriate names have been blocked. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 13:37, May 5, 2018 (UTC)

Can you tell me about some news and changes in httyd Council or even future projects?Youngtrainer (talk) 09:55, May 6, 2018 (UTC)

Thx it really helped me and I am still waiting to see the movie, cuz Httyd 2 made to join in yhis crew by the way... The other members cannot put me in Berk Council? I want to say that for six months ago but I want really to improve some abilyties but the visual content remains my speciality. Farewell deer Dublyn!Youngtrainer (talk) 17:40, May 6, 2018 (UTC)

Idk
I’m confused about this page http://howtotrainyourdragon.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_Train_Your_Dragon_3 it said it was created only minutes ago but the comments lead back to December as of writing this I think the user who created it remade the old httyd3 page. --Dragonnewt (talk) 15:12, May 10, 2018 (UTC)

I blocked that user and I semi-protected your user page. I semi-protected your user page to prevent the troll from vandalizing your user page. Semi-protection keeps new and unregistered users from editing a page. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 01:26, May 14, 2018 (UTC)

In terms of the picture, there is a placeholder image already, which is called No Screenshot.png. In terms of that user, they violated the rules, and one of the accounts will have to be blocked for sock puppetry. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 11:41, May 20, 2018 (UTC)

Featured Articles - Summer 2018
Hi! As you know, we are only a few days away from the beginning of summer, meaning that a new set of Featured Articles needs to be discussed. As you may have noticed, last week I was cleaning up Heather's page, so, if I may, I suggest her as the Featured Character, considering that she is a very popular character in the Httyd Fandom. However, I have been a little more busy than usual and I haven't thiught about the Featured Dragon and Featured Other. Do you have any ideas?

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  10:31, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

I like your idea about Cressida Cowell being featured. I'll still wait for Annabeth and Hiccstrid to answer and then we'll see.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  16:46, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

Hi! There is a petition going on about new season of Dragons race to the Edge. If you haven't signed it yet please do so in the following link:

https://www.change.org/p/dreamworks-tv-show-after-how-to-train-your-dragon-2-and-before-how-to-train-your-dragon-3

Patoadam (talk) 17:47, May 30, 2018 (UTC)

Tiny Crumb for HTTYD3
Hey! I play School of Dragons and this week, the forum admin 'takes over' SOD social media. This evening he posted a message that sounds like it is reference HTTYD3, and very vaguely talking about what it means for the game. Nothing really new, but in case you want to see: Brynjolf Takes-Over: Day Three!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  02:21, May 31, 2018 (UTC)

PS: Maybe he's referencing Dragonvine, but, you know, the whole "world hidden away" bit ...

Ahhh, so was the poster the picture you were researching? I am in the camp of not liking the white fury or whatever she is and not liking these sort of cliche plot things. But I will still watch the movie and like it to some kind of extent! What I am trying to remember, wasn't it stated somewhere officially that this female is a "love interest" of Toothless, or was that extrapolated from fans? Also, is this dragon officially called a "Light Fury" or is she still - as of now - officially a "Night Fury"? What I'm getting at is should info about this dragon go under the Night Fury page and should the Light Fury page be postponed for the time being? I just don't remember extactly the official versus speculation and you are kind of an expert HTTYD detective! ;)

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:56, May 31, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, so that is what I couldn't remember, if the footage from CinemaCon actually said "Light Fury" or some of the people describing the footage called it a "Light Fury". Also the Official DW HTTYD3 synopsis says "the appearance of a female Night Fury", but another quote on the HTTYD:HW page says "an untamed, elusive mate" but this is from a non-DW source from 12/2016 with a synopsis that doesn't have a source. I figured you know all the deets!

Someone somewhere said "female trope" which kind of puts a name to some of what I don't like (at least what can be inferred from the poster). Meaning she looks "girly". Sure in real life there is a lot of sexual dimorphism, but we never see that with any other dragon in the Franchise, not even in Gift of the Night Fury. It looks like they over did making her look 'feminine', and subsequently weak and delicate and childishly cute. Way to go using gender stereotypes for the kids :(

And the white color, agreed something dark like dark blue or dark red or heck even dark pink (Bleh), or silver. Though the Vikings supposedly haven't seen a Night Fury, everyone in the movies and TV shows somehow know what a Night Fury is when they see it, and that is probably due to the coloring. The one thing Vikings do know about Night Furies is they blend in with the night and are very stealthy. Not that white thing! Seems like fan service. Can't wait to see how they explain the color!

Also the plot already seems fairly ascertainable already - Hiccup and Toothless learn to rule their respective dominions. Very bad guy shows up and threatens Berk and threatens/kills dragons and wants to kill all dragons. Meanwhile Hiccup and Toothless/Dragon Riders discover the Hidden World, a vast underground space under the Archipelago, as well as the white female Night Fury, giving hope to the species not becoming extinct. They fight the very bad guy and decide to send all dragons into the Hidden World because ultimately dragons aren't safe from humans. Hiccup and Toothless are separated for the most part but probably leaves it open to visitations. I guess the surprises will be in the details and little things in the movie ...

(And then to speculate even farther - maybe "Rescue Riders" will be a spin-off of the Riders or a new group rescuing dragons and taking them to the Hidden World ...)

Ahhh, getting too carried away. Anyway, I'll poke around and see if I am able to change up the Discussions categories!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:52, June 1, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, looks like only Admins can change the categories: http://howtotrainyourdragon.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Admin_and_Moderator_Tools_in_Discussions#Discussion_categories

Sorry to bother you again, but I just possibly noticed something I was hoping you could either confirm or refute. We know Valka in How to Train Your Dragon 2 looked at Toothless' facial nubs and said he is about Hiccup's age. So I looked at the images on the Wiki from HTTYD1 and HTTYD2 and as far as I can tell, there are three small nubs on each side of his jay in HTTYD2 that he didn't have in HTTYD3. I can't really tell from the HTTYD3 poster (hope the artwork is way better in the actual movie). If I am seeing correctly, this implies that DeBlois and the writers/developers are paying attention to features that age up Toothless. This might also imply and apply to this white nightlight fury? What do you think?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:30, June 2, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, you are right. The movie will be good. I guess it just depends where on the scale of good - is it "yay!" or "YAY!" :P

About DeBlois rewriting - I'm not sure of the time frame, but do you think it had anything to do with Universal buying up Dreamworks and having a shift in the movie's 'priorities'?

As for Rufflout, I don't know, Rufflegs (or whatever it is) was kind of cute in RttE, I think it was "Snotlout Gets the Axe"!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:33, June 3, 2018 (UTC)

On phone - more possible tidbits? From the SOD Forum.

http://forum.schoolofdragons.com/content/httyd-3-spoiler-amazon

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  19:30, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

Oops, sorry, you’ve seen it already!

Taron Egerton
Hi Dublin! I know you have good detective skills and I was wondering if you could find out if Taron Egerton indeed has a role in How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World. The page was created a while ago, with almost no information on it and I would like to know if it is necessary to have it.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  03:39, June 3, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! I deleted the page. And yes, you are the best investigator on this wiki!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:59, June 3, 2018 (UTC)

Featured articles
Hey DublynT. Um. Im newer here so thats why i'm telling you, but there was a small typo on the Featured Articles page on the home page, in the summary of Cressida Cowell and author is spelled wrong. I wasnt sure who to tell and sorry this isnt a big deal. Just thought id let you know. sorry to bother you.

Nuttetuff (talk) 22:11, June 4, 2018 (UTC)Nuttetuff

HTTYD 3 again ...
This makes me feel better:



Well, at least a little. Makes this female trope/sexual dimorphism/coloration and other physical differences more reasonable to wrap my brain around. Different but similar species makes sense, and though different it makes sense Toothless might be attracted to a similar species in the absence of a female of his own species. They might even produce viable, albeit sterile offspring ... (Common example is horse x donkey = mule).

The rest of the trailer ... too complicated to type out on my phone :)

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  02:57, June 8, 2018 (UTC)

Ahhhh ... on a keyboard for a little bit!

So, the trailer! Bearded Hiccup is nice, and as a Viking I expected him to have a beard at some point, since culturally it shows manliness and power. Also, we assume bearded Hiccup is older and Toothless is still there, indicating they aren't completely separated after the movie! (Or, young adult Hiccup grows a beard in the beginning and then shaves it off cuz its not his style ...).

I am also wondering about the Franchise overall - is it assumed dragons only exist in the Barbaric Archipelago, or are there dragons assumed elsewhere in the world? Logistically, it would be difficult to get all dragons all over the world to disappear. The Book series also had this problem in logic. A few snippets in the Book universe mentioned or implied dragons occurring elsewhere in the world, but the author's ending of making the dragons 'disappear' likewise seemed to only apply to those of the Archipelago. Both the Franchise and Books explanations for no more dragons don't make sense logically - if you think about it too much - and there isn't really a good (kid-friendly) way to remove all dragons.

So, as mentioned before, I'm okay now with the Light Fury since Dean commented about her on the Reddit thingie. Still think she's over-feminized, but its okay, cuz she's a different species. We can pretend the male Light Furies can look effeminate too :) Toothless trying to impress her is silly - silly and cute in a good way. I thought her smacking him just like a cat was cute too. Not sure if you have cats, but the single-paw-lift and then pap!-pap!-pap! in annoyance is so cat-like. I hope there are other vinigettes of Toothless doing courtship-type dances we've yet to see!

The apparent teleportation - still don't like it, if that is what she's actually doing. I read somewhere, some fan suggesting she goes light speed rather than actually teleporting. Teleporting is a very sci-fi ability, so I think it might still fall under the blanket of Dean's comments about the Franchise being science-y and realistic-ish.

I was surprised to see a TV dragon in the movies, though (Fireworms)! Wonder if there will be others. Wonder why they added them now?

Not sure what I think about Grimmel (assuming that is Grimmel). Looks one-dimensional just in the trailer. The dragon behind him - at first I was like, yay new dragon! - but those tusks ... how the heck can it eat anything or catch anything to eat??

At the little glimpse we get in the trailer ... it almost looks like he treats dragons okay?? At least some of them. That dragon behind him didn't look subjugated and it almost looked like Grimmel was going to give him a pat?

At least one of the unnamed dragon species from HTTYD2 appears in HTTYD3. I really hope they flesh out the species a little and give it a name, even if it is in the games or something.

Woah Berk, that engineering ...

Toothless doing the Skrill thing ... seems cheesy. That's a Skrill thing! Hope they have an explanation!! I think I remember that the Skrill was one of the original design concepts for Toothless, so maybe that's why Toothless is absorbing and shooting electricity? Its also interesting that we don't see any of Toothless in alpha form (unless the electrical bit was that). Also if Toothless is the alpha of ALL dragons everywhere, doesn't appear he has much influence over Grimmel's dragons ... or Toothless is the alpha just of the dragons in the area around Berk?

Graphics look very detailed, heck of alot better than the poster. Like the dragon noises, especially from Toothless during his little 'dances'.

So, yeah, trailer better than poster, but still feel like most of the plot has been revealed already.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:36, June 8, 2018 (UTC)

re: Hm, I was wondering
It's no big deal ❤️ and completely understandable. 😊 I myself am quite sleep-deprived as of late. All the new activity on this Wiki has been really hard to keep up with. I just wanted to let you know in case other users, especially new users, get confused over this.

By the way, did you see that AJ Kane's mother Alexandra (heh) just replied to some fans who were asking her about AJ's role in the movie? She wrote that they can't say what his role is yet but the movie will be awesome. It seems like they have been sworn to secrecy by Dreamworks and it's fueling my curiosity even more! I really want to know who 'my son' is playing. 😂 --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 19:37, June 8, 2018 (UTC)

Yup, yup! I found it shortly after posting to Thorndrum's wall. Putting foot in mouth right now. I don't have Twitter though, so thanks for the direct link!!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  21:34, June 10, 2018 (UTC)

I'm really sorry. This was the first time I even saw the video. How did you find it? Like, her latest video just appeared on my notifications and then I found that video about. I don't mean to encourage her, but I'm not going to sit by and let this continue, although I suppose there's really nothing I can do to stop her. Do you know if the user is still active?--

Alright. Thank you!--

Thank you!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  03:06, June 14, 2018 (UTC)

About intriguing gloves
I was recently asked about hiccups gloves and if they are removable or if they are attached too the suit I think not but I want a professional opinion on intriguing gloves and seeing you are the master of intriguing gloves I’m asking you. --Dragonnewt (talk) 14:25, June 15, 2018 (UTC)

Possible new Httyd book
Hi Dublin! I happened to find this book on Amazon today. However, I am not sure if this is a 'canon' book (like The Art of books, Guide to the Dragons books etc.) or just a book related to Httyd, like many others on this page. And by that I mean I am not sure if I should create a page for it or just mention it on the page linked above. Could you use your 'detective' skills to find out? ☺

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  05:10, June 17, 2018 (UTC)

Interesting. I think that, for now, I will let it on the Books Related to the HTTYD Franchise and after it will become available and we'll have more information about it, I will consider creating a page for it.

Thank you for your help. I knew I could count on you! 😀

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  06:40, June 17, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. I don't know how could I not realize that. I didn't pay attention to the user himself when I let the welcome message. Also, the welcome message is sent automatically if the user edits his own page. If not, it has to be added manually.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:43, June 18, 2018 (UTC)

Light Fury Classification ...
Hey, I'm going to message the other staff as well, but I think we should make a decision about how to classify the Light Fury, whether it is a species or sub-species. Obviously it is subject to change as more information becomes available. Unfortunately, Dean Deblois - though he wants to be realistic/scientific with the movies - isn't really a biologist and has called the Light Fury a 'species', 'sub-species, 'variation', and probably something else at this point in his various interviews. It does matter to the Wiki, especially since we have separate templates and layouts and such for dragon species and sub-species. It also looks like it may be a source of conflicting edits and such.

My personal opinion is that the Light Fury is a separate species, as that makes the most sense biologically. Sub-species refer to different groups within a species that often are in distinct geographic areas and may have some different morphology, but that morphology is usually 'minor'. Like striping on a tiger being a little different or one sub-species is a little smaller or larger than another. They can also fully interbreed and produce fertile offspring and carry on the line. Species are differentiated by much more obvious morphological differences, geographic differences, and by the fact that two species cannot produce a new, fertile hybrid species. Certainly two species similar enough can breed and produce offspring, but they are usually sterile or sterile enough not to be able to carry on the line. Examples are mules, zorses, and various cat hybrids like ligers. If the Light Fury and the Night Fury are really the same species, then there would be a population of them especially since Dean said the Unnamed Light Fury is not the last of her kind. Also, while they both look similar, there is obvious major differences that speak more to a separate species than just a sub-species. Out of what we currently know, the Light Fury and Night Fury being two different species (but closely related) makes sense.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:57, June 17, 2018 (UTC)

I think I am just being over-worried that this issue might become a source of argument before we get the official word (such as in the Dragonpedia). Anyway, I'm fine just letting it be. As far as where Dean has discussed the Night/Light Fury, I am basing my opinion off of his first Reddit AMA. I know he's mentioned it a few times afterward in other interviews.

As far as the slideshow, IMO its okay. Admittedly I didn't look at all 57 slides after it started going into meiosis and mitosis and so on. There are a few points that aren't quite accurate - the 0.1% difference they mention in the slide with Bush and Osama for example. Pretty sure 0.1% is the difference between a human and a chimpanzee, not between two individuals of the same species. The images they give of variation within species are all from creatures that have been manipulated by humans to intentionally breed in the mutations arising to variations. The image for the horses include a picture of a Zorse (Zebra x horse hybrid) which is wrong - that's not a variation, as it is not a full horse. A zebra's full color pattern is not a trait/mutation/variation found in domestic horses (to be clear, some colors such as 'dun' have a stripe down the back and some faint striping on the legs, but that isn't the same as full on zebra stripes). As you can see from the variations given for humans, they are extremely 'minor' in the scheme of things. The differences between the Night and Light Furies like the back sail and spines, and the ear-like appendages, as well as whatever biological mechanisms and processes needed to produce their difference abilities like the super heating of the scales to a mirror-like quality are huge differences. We don't see humans with extra appendages, multiple ears, back spines, or radical abilities (not counting severe mutations, illness, and so on). If anything like these arose in our species, it has not been selected for and those variations have disappeared.

Aaanyway, just had to expound on that, sorry. As far as classifying HTTYD dragons - yes I have thought of it too! So in biology nowadays, classification has changed alot because it is so much easier to study DNA and the differences and similarities between species and evolution and such. Before, classification was made largely on morphology. This is the best we can do for classifying our lovely fictitious creatures. I'm sure you remember the Kingdom-Phylum-Class-Order-Family-Genus-Species? Still applies but has gotten very complicated with DNA studies. Now there are clades and sub-supra-infra-etc groupings and so on. It gets really confusing once you get around the Class level. Anyway, if we just go by the old complicated classification, dragons would be
 * Kingdom: Animalia
 * Phylum: Chordata (having a backbone)
 * Class: It would be useful to use the HTTYD 'Class' here, but we have to get from Chordata to something more specific. Here would be Reptilia. The HTTYD universe keeps calling dragons Reptiles so we could go with that.
 * Order: Here be Dragons
 * Family: We could call the HTTYD 'Classes' as taxonomic families. I don't feel like Dreamworks meant the dragon classes to be the same necessarily as a taxonomic class.
 * Genus: Have fun with genus and species! In my opinion, Night Fury and Light Furies would be the same Genus but different species.
 * Species: how about Furorforma fulgurmorte and Furorforma luxalba? Or something like that ...

I still have to respond to your trailer analysis! Sorry!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:45, June 18, 2018 (UTC)

Hey Dublyn. Sorry there’s no header. It want working. My computer is acting up. Anyways. There was a user named Jackie.harrypotter who posted a post about Harry Potter that made no sense at all on this fandom. Just thought I’d let ya know. Sorry to bother ya.

Nuttetuff (talk) 06:52, June 19, 2018 (UTC)nuttetuff

Sorry
I’ll try to do better I get distracted easily --Dragonnewt (talk) 14:56, June 19, 2018 (UTC)

I remember him well. And I blocked him. Thank you!--

Um I see you are the admin so can I ask how did you get those special remarks like "Dublyn trains with hiccup horrendous haddock III" ,"dublyn protects dragons with balls", and "Dublyn geeks out on dragons with fishlegs" I really wanna knowVelocity 9 (talk) 19:00, June 19, 2018 (UTC)

Okay, I will be. Thanks.AWESOME512345 (talk) 22:58, June 19, 2018 (UTC)

I’m so so sorry
Hey Dublyn. I’m so so so sorry about that whole chat last night. It kinda got out of hand, then we couldn’t get it moved and I’m very sorry for that. Sorry for creating more work and problems for you. I’ll try harder to stay on topic. Again. Sorry for that. Nuttetuff (talk) 11:38, June 27, 2018 (UTC)nuttetuff

Post limit?
Hey DublynT! This is Hana.

May I ask something about the fun and games forum? As you probably notice, me, @AWESOME512345 @Dragonnewt @dadwagonnamedtoothless and @Skylander are working on a somewhat (game?”) story and we are actually making great progress with it! :) But, heh, we didn’t really know there was a limit of posts in every discussion. :( we’ve reached 500 posts already (mine being the last one) and I, on behlad of all of them, would just like to ask if there’s a chance the limit may be removed? (At least on OUR discussion post only “HTTYD Descendants”) Becasue it would seem hard to go and compile everything on TWO different posts and who know some just how many more pages we need to completed the story we’re working on.

But of course, if you really can’t do it and it’s not our business to force you. :) we won’t mind making another page in the fun and games forum, just to continue our conversations and the story. I just thought of asking you first.

Thanks! 😊

- Hana

ThisIsRiderHana (talk) 08:04, June 28, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you and Sorry
Hi Dublyn. Thankyou for deleting the post (I assumed it was you and not the other admin. If it wasnt you and someone else, let them know I am really thankful😊)

I was worried it would spread out fast and other users would see it. Thank god it got deleted soon. I just wanted to say thankyou. And hopefully nothing like that would happen again.

Sorry again dublyn. And thank you so much.

-Hana.

ThisIsRiderHana (talk) 13:30, June 30, 2018 (UTC)

Thankyou. Tell Hiccstridfan I appreciate it really. I can assure you, it wont happen again. Ill talk to her. Thanks so much! 😊

I just blocked the user who created that discussions post to cyber bully another user. I deleted that post myself this morning realizing it was a bad post, but I should have done the block right then, but did not think about it at that time. I can easily tell that that is cyber bullying, which is not acceptable on any level. I put an infinite block on the user because all they did was to post that unacceptable discussions post. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 17:00, June 30, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Block, please
The user has already been blocked by HiccstridFan.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  17:06, June 30, 2018 (UTC)

Warlords ...
Hey, if you don't mind I'd like to pick your brain. Someone created the page The Warlords, I am assuming based on a description of Dean's talk at the Annecy Festival. I feel like there's not enough info and too much possibility to be understood a little differently - i'e is the group name "Warlords", or is it comprised of "Warlords", or what not. I am thinking the page should be deleted for now. (Not to mention no one is fixing it up structurally). I just wanted to ask you in case there is other verifiable info out there about this group before doing so, that I don't know about?

Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  21:47, June 30, 2018 (UTC)

Yup! Sure does! I'm going to delete it in a few minutes.

You mentioned one villain character might have an Asian appearance ... so it kind of bugs me that the Franchise seems just the tiniest bit racial stereotyping? Do you get this feeling? I don't want to say the big "R"... I don't feel that's their intent at all. I guess HTTYD is not having a good representation of all peoples might be a better way of saying it. That thought has been knocking around in my head for a while. I am basing this on the representations in the movies and shows and SOD. First, all the good guys and Berkians are clearly Caucasian. Well, they are supposed to represent Vikings, right? But this point doesn't hold much water for me because many of the villains are decidedly not Caucasian or not appearing like Northern Europeans. Also, Cressida Cowell even had one side character who was not Caucasian - Speedifist (Books). And HTTYD is a story in the modern age, catering to people all over the world, not a historical tale. And well, the "Vikings" are far from actual Vikings, so why hold to racial norms of history? So making them all white isn't huge, but when SOD made Speedifist white in the game when they had an opportunity to make someone with a darker skin, was a bit irritating. Also, a few non-Caucasian people have in the past commented on the SOD forums about they feel a little left out (mostly because the viking avatar creator in the game doesn't mesh darker skin tones together well, and hair styles are lacking for more diversity. Also, the Villains: The one fully black person in the Franchise - Krogan - is an evil character. Drago is racially ambiguous, but clearly not a northern European. Ryker and Viggo look southern Mediterranean. The new villain in SOD - Nikora Stormheart - while its awesome she is a female, racially she also does not look like a northern European, maybe Mediterranean or Hispanic or native. Now they might have a character that looks Asian and she's a villain?

Well, actually, I think there were some darker-skinned Wingmaidens in the background, so that's something at least. What is your opinion (or do you have one)?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:38, July 1, 2018 (UTC)

Pfft, "strangers". So everybody who isn't northern European is a stranger? Not cool. Yeah, historically in the US, Irish were a group that were discriminated against (though not quite as bad as black people), and actually Catholics, too. Now the Irish are "cool" and red hair is "cool" and some Irish descended Americans discriminate against others. Apparently humans (like in general) have a very short memory and don't learn very well :(.

I remember Snotlout calling the Wingmaidens "native" women, too ... not sure how a feel about that, kind of doesn't feel right. And yeah, Eret! Though some of his crew did not also get the 'native' features as he did. And I forgot about Johann already. I feel like him being a villian was kind of last minute, I guess? I guess RTTE did make a few racial-positive choices, but also some glaring negative ones. Going back to the "strangers" bit - I would think Asian cultures would have been the most dragon-positive out there, especially since they figure so prominently in their cultures. Then RTTE takes ninjas and Japanese-esque architecture for the Defenders of the Wing, and makes them all white with a skinny blonde queen (I do like Mala though). That was a good opening to make some Asian-featured characters! Hey, that'd have made a good back story - maybe a group of Asians traveled to the Archipelago in the distant past and brought with them their reverence for dragons and their culture, thus explaining why the Defenders of the Wing are decidedly not Vikings living in a Viking land.

And yeah, I am a pasty old white chick, so I can't know how non-caucasian fans feel :(

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  21:43, July 1, 2018 (UTC)

Layout for Galleries
(I will be copy/pasting this message to the other staff)

I was wondering what your opinion is for Gallery layouts? Specifically whether we should have sub-headings for episodes, or just caption the first image with an episode title. This question was brought up because I edited the page Gallery: Krogan's Singetail with episode sub-headings (I thought we were kind of doing this now) and Tauriel changed it back to the latter format because this is what we have previously done and is noted on the article standard page. The gallery is currently arranged with episode captions. Here is an example with episode sub-headings from the history (hopefully I can link it): []. Please disregard all the deleted images; I'm slowly cleaning them out. There were literally over 700 images of the same things, blurry images, even images with just the dragon's tail in it!!

Personally I think having sub-headings for episodes makes the page neater. What do you think?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  20:12, July 1, 2018 (UTC)

(I will be copy/pasting this message to the other staff again)

So it looks like we have three for one format and three for another.


 * 1) Arrange gallery pages according to episode.
 * 2) Arrange gallery pages according to episode only when sub-galleries are necessary, otherwise simply caption the first image of each episode.

I'd like to also throw out another argument for option 1 - People placing images in galleries don't always look at where they are putting them and just place them at the end of the gallery. Its a little more obvious if they are separated by sub-headings. Also, there are some galleries that might only have one or two pics for an episode, but they really ought to have more! Like images for characters that are not Hiccup, Astrid, or Toothless ... :P

So maybe we can split Gallery pages into episodes, but only when there is at least one episode with more than like, 9-10 images? I'm thinking that many subjects with only one or two images for an episode probably could or should be added to anyway. Also to clarify and re-iterate, when a gallery is on a subject's page (no gallery page), those images really need to be captioned with the source!

If everyone is okay with this, Woolly would you update the MOS and the article standard page for galleries? Thanks!

As far as the Gallery for Krogan's Singetail, yeah that's fine to have sub-galleries, I think no one will have a problem with that, though the number of images has been severely reduced - I deleted, I don't know, like a few hundred pics??

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  12:38, July 2, 2018 (UTC)

Banning Quiveryn
Is there any way can you ban Quiveryn? All that this user has been doing for the entire day is vandalizing several pages on this Wikia by typing annoying gibberish nonsense to them.

--NarendraMartosudarmo (talk) 08:38, July 3, 2018 (UTC)

I see. Thank you for the info. Until one of the admins step in, I'll try to keep Quiveryn at bay by undoing more of their incoming vandals.

--NarendraMartosudarmo (talk) 09:08, July 3, 2018 (UTC)

Thank Thor! The threat is dealt with. Even though more vandals will appear in the future, we’ll be ready for them.

--NarendraMartosudarmo (talk) 02:55, July 4, 2018 (UTC)

Your Signature
Hi Dublyn. Pardon me for interrupting, but I really like your signature. How did you get that shadow effect behind your name? Firey Dino Piranha (talk) 13:25, July 3, 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much for your help with my signature! I think it looks pretty good so far!  Firey Dino Piranha  (  Message Me!  ) 18:19, July 3, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Thank you for blocking
No problem! As soon as I saw the user editing that way, I blocked it. However, it appears that I forgot to block the user from editing its own talk page, but now I managed to change the block (still learning how to do that). Apparently, I blocked the user for exactly 100 years... Anyway, glad to be helpful!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  19:43, July 3, 2018 (UTC)

References for the Crimson Goregutter
Sorry to bother you, but do you recall the sources for the information on the Crimson Goregutter? Pretty sure there were at least a couple where Dean talks about them. I'd like to get the page updated, but I just don't recall the sources!

Thanks, Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:05, July 8, 2018 (UTC)

Yep, thanks! I remembered the Annecy summary, but remembered there were one or two other sources.

I am thinking about posting all these sources for HTTYD3 somewhere on the Wiki, not like an actual page but on like my talk page or something. Just so I don't have to keep bothering you or hunting down references every time. If I put those on my talk page, you could add to it whenever you like, since you sleuth out most of them anyway! :P

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  13:44, July 8, 2018 (UTC)

Also, have you had a chance to consider my suggestion for handling galleries? I had posted more after hearing from the other staff under User_talk:DublynT. You might have missed it because others had posted things to your wall already but I added to the heading. Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  13:49, July 8, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Please Block
Done! 😊

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  07:47, July 9, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks so much Dublyn! I wasn’t sure so I deleted it. Heh. But thanks for that tip. That’ll save me so much time! Thanks a lot.

Nuttetuff (talk) 08:17, July 9, 2018 (UTC)nuttetuff

Re: Inserting links on pages
Thanks so much Dublyn! I wasn’t sure so I deleted it. Heh. But thanks for that tip. That’ll save me so much time! Thanks a lot.

Nuttetuff (talk) 08:18, July 9, 2018 (UTC)nuttetuff

Gallery Layout and Interview Links, continued ...
For the Gallery Layouts, I meant this suggestion:

"So maybe we can split Gallery pages into episodes, but only when there is at least one episode with more than like, 9-10 images? I'm thinking that many subjects with only one or two images for an episode probably could or should be added to anyway."

Woolly will update the MOS and Article Standards once everyone reaches a consensus.

As for interview linking - I started User_talk%3ALadybrasa. Its in caps to be easier to find. (Also, if you ever need to refer to it, I capped a message section from Hiccstrid about reporting a troll: User_talk%3ALadybrasa.) As far as creating an official page for interviews ... that might be a good idea. They are official communications from Dreamworks, after all. But we'd have to include interviews from ALL the movies and such, I think. Maybe divide it by media, then sub-divide by cast/crew. Also, it might be useful to also list what topics the interview covers?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  13:00, July 9, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Hiccup's Workshop
I'm only working on that page because one of my self-assigned projects is to slowly chip away at the article stubs, of which Haddock House is one. As far as Hiccup's workshop, I'm not quite sure what you are referring to? Do you mean the images I pulled from the HTTYD1 gallery are from the Blacksmith shop?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:54, July 10, 2018 (UTC)

Reven Queens posts
Reven Queen keeps making unlrealted posts with pics one after another andter another and keeps saying that she doesn’t need to follow the rules. U probably saw those already but I thought I’d let u know everyone is super annoyed by them. Nuttetuff (talk) 20:57, July 13, 2018 (UTC)nuttetuff

Hey dublyn. Annabeth and Percy took care of them. Sorry to bother you. Thanks again. i know i thank you alot but all u do for this wiki is really appriciated by the users!

Nuttetuff (talk) 21:53, July 13, 2018 (UTC)Nuttetuff

Re: Editing
Hi Dublyn, thanks so much for saying so. :) I'm also sorry if some of the edits are totally pointless, I guess I misunderstood what it means to be "editing" :(. I guess I told myself I'd contribute as much as I can to the wiki before august (because honestly, after august I can only be online on the weekends and there's a high chance I could be labelled as "inactive" so I thought I'd better do everything I can now before that time comes, heh.

I've also been seeing that I have been editing a lot but the others doesn't, I thought maybe I'm just the one who finds most phrases to add upon. Sorry. I guess I misunderstood what it meant to be "editing". Sorry again Dublyn. It wont happen again T-T ThisIsRiderHana (talk) 04:51, July 14, 2018 (UTC)

I've read the manual of style but the other, I've only read a few. I'll try and study it more, thanks so much! :) ThisIsRiderHana (talk) 05:22, July 14, 2018 (UTC)

Two things
Hi Dublyn, sorry to bother you.

You see, I noticed your and Ladybrasa’s customized signatures. They look really fancy and I was wondering if I’m allowed do the same with mine, too? Or is that just a feature allowed for staff people only?

Also, what does it mean when a page is in need of reorganization? I know the title is pretty straightforward, but can you please explain it a little further? For example, Gallery: How to Train Your Dragon 2 / Screenshots is in need of reorganization. Does it mean the screenshots should be organized in proper order? Fangalpr (talk) 16:15, July 14, 2018 (UTC)

It's Hana
Hey Dublyn. :) I may have noticed that you also helped @Fangalpr (?) with her signature. I read the mesage you sent her regarding that and I may have customized my own. This is okay right? Because I sort of thought that only the staff was allowed to have this XD. Just thought of saying. (Idk if it worked though... we'll see when I post this message XD)

And also, how do you add links? I've been editing (and yes... not those tiny little pointless edits anymore XD) but I can't seem to add links like I used to. :( Thanks! :)

ThisIsRiderHana (  talk  ) 00:38, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Dublyn... Help????
OH MY GODS Idk what went wrong with my signature. It's Fangalpr's signatre!! Oh no..... I'm gonna edit it out as quick as I can. I don't want to be seen as trolling... Can you please help me? This is Hana by the way, not fangalpr..... IM SO SORRY, I HOPE THIS DOESNT LEAD TO A MISUNDERSTANDING. I should've asked you first... T-T I'll fix it

I wont write my signature yet because it could lead to another misundertanding... Sorry!

--

Hey Dublyn. Sorry for my nervous breakdown earlier, I was just really worried people might think of me as a spammer or something. I fixed my signature, and I removed the wiki text but I really don't know what went wrong :(. I changed all the names to "ThisIsRiderHana", I even changed the color of the text to Crimson (all of it) but the font, I left it there because I liked it. I don't know why it remained "Fangalpr" even f I changed everything to "ThisIsRiderHana" :( Sorry for the problem. Just thought I'd say before a misunderstanding shows up again.

Can I ask, if you would kindly help me with the signature? Thanks so much! :)

(Okay if this signature turns out wrong... I'm gonna freak again)

ThisIsRiderHana (talk) 01:08, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! And... uuh... sorry for freaking out XD. I like the signature now, might add a rose emoji later on but can't right now since I'm using a laptop (Can you add emojis using a laptop? Idk). I like the signature now. Thanks :D  Hana  (  talk  ) 04:11, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Oh! okay, thanks XD I'll fix it. Hana (  talk  ) 04:15, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Two things
Hi Dublin! Just dropping by to say thank you for thoroughly helping me customize my signature (I edited it a little by the way) and telling me more info for the "In need of reorganization" template at the top of some pages. ☺

Fangalpr ( talk ) 04:47, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Happy Birthday!
Thank you so much, Dublyn! :) 🌹 Hana  (  talk  ) 05:00, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

FANCY NAME MAGIC
hi dublyn how do you do the cool signature thing? Ya know mines all boring but yours is like awesome with a side of awesome  Dragonnewt (talk) 06:15, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Someone posted an illegal website
Hey Dublyn, I'm assuming you're asleep. Just thought of saying, I've reported them already but someone posted a link to a website that can hack a httyd game on the discussions board, and another dude posted  a picure of Dave Cameron(?) or (Loren Gray??) on one of the discussions (or maybe just a random girl) *shrugs* but i just thought it was completely unecessary. Thought of letting you know :) 🌹 Hana  (  talk  ) 07:39, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Hi there DublynT!! I hope you are doing well.I have a question for you.When someone upvotes a reply you get notificated,thing is that notification never goes away.Right now im stuck with the number 2 on the little bell.Do you know how to get rid of it? THANKS!!

Thanks a ton!-- Dragonnewt (  talk  ) 16:31, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Hi there!!

Thanks for replying your advice really helped! Hope you have a great day!

Thanks from

Toothlessfangirl11

Hey, Dublyn, I see you are getting a lot of requests about signatures! Just want to toss out to everyone reading that it would be helpful to link the "(talk)" portion of the signature to your talk page. I think this part got a little lost in translation or something. Add a link: ( talk  ).

Also, FYI for knowledge, there is a way to make something of a signature template like Annabeth has, but I haven't the slightest clue how to do that ...

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  16:52, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Custom Sigs
Thank you so much!

I'll customize mine when I have free time, and my favourite colour is orange, so yeah!

AWESOME512345 (talk) 17:39, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Hey dublyn! I edited my signature and was wondering if i did it right and just to make sure i didnt mess anything up.

Nuttetuff (  talk  ) 20:44, July 15, 2018 (UTC)Nuttetuff

You're welcome. I have also blocked a couple of the users who were feeding him to make it very clear that that will not be tolerated here either.--

re:custom sigs
Ok phew! Thanks. Also sorry for no header. I just kinda went around asking people and looking at talk pages as to not disturb u and just wanted to make sure I didn’t mess anything else up. Thanks so much! 🎵 Nuttetuff (  talk  ) 🎵 06:07, July 16, 2018 (UTC)Nuttetuff

header as posts
Ok. I’m sorry for sending u so many messages. Ik how busy u are but The user Header as keeps making weird posts that are related but have no way of generating discussion and I think u told them to stop already and I told Annabeth becuase I knew this might make some peeps annoyed so I thought just who gets this first. Again sorry to keep sending u messages.

🎵 Nuttetuff (  talk  ) 🎵 11:06, July 16, 2018 (UTC)Nuttetuff

Android
hey Dublyn. Just a small question.

Because when I log in to the wiki, I sometimes use a laptop or my phone, but every time I use my phone, the website wont show me the notifications, messages and the button leading to my profile. Im using android btw. Is it really like this or maybe I need to see if my phone's glitching. Tnx! :)

➣ Hana  ⟪  talk  ⟫  02:52, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

Oooh, okay, i guess i need to turn it landscape I guess XD I didn't notice because I always lock the position of my phone to portrait.

And thankyou! Yeah, i edited it this morning, I love yours too! I have to ask, where did you get the new fonts? They look very cool!

➣ Hana  ⟪  talk  ⟫  04:45, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

Tiny question regarding Transcripts
Hi Dublyn, I have a tiny question for you regarding Transcripts.

I'm about to edit some of them as I've noticed some grammar mistakes, misspellings and some typos in general. What somewhat bothered me are the [] put before and after the actions. My question is, which should literally be used between the two? I've already read the Transcripts' Manual of Style and it didn't really help clear up my confusion.

( ) 05:16, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

Okay then. Thank you for the info. Also- I'd like to apologize for what I did on your talk page- it wasn't my intention to do so, just that I thought I should edit my message since when my eyes came across it, I noticed that it contained a typo and my signature didn't update to my current one, so I thought it was necessary to fix that. Nonetheless, thanks for pointing out that I was being rude when I didn't realize and offering an advice that'll surely help me avoid to cause misunderstanding next time. It won't happen again.

( ) 15:40, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

Yes- (I'm actually using my aunt's device as of right now because I'm on vacation with her and it does have Grammarly installed on it)- speaking from experience, I'm quite sure it won't do something like that without your consent. It only helps you realize the part where you went wrong, kind of like "an assistant that points out your mistakes". Other than that, instead of just clicking "leave a message", I clicked the drop-down arrow at the top of your talk page and clicked "edit" because I wanted to know the difference. As a result, it showed me the whole layout of your talk page. I think that's the main problem with what I did. I didn't realize that the "edit" portion is for the user only. At that moment, I thought it didn't matter whichever I choose because I thought it was the same. So when I started scrolling to the bottom to write a new message, I thought I should check out my previous message just to see where I went wrong. It then showed me a typo and I thought I should fix it- but then things got out of hand.

So, as it turns out, I guess I sort of ended up experimenting on your page ... It was not my intention; I'm truly sorry for doing such a thing. 😞

( ) 17:42, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

Wow, ha, thank you, you're very kind. 😊

And may I just say that your new signature is very neat and suits your clover emoji and green theme a lot!

( ) 04:30, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

Rude To A User
Hi Dublyn. Today Razumy posted another cool thing from her night fury collection. The user NightFury0 was extremely rude and called her an “idiot” and I thought I’d bring this up with u. THis user has been quite disrespectful as of late to others as well and I thought u might want to know.

Nuttetuff (  talk  )  21:13, July 22, 2018 (UTC)Nuttetuff

Thanks Dublyn. It really was bothering me about how rude that user was. I hope they rnt like that again.

As for my sug, I was fixing it the other day and put that but forgot to change it back. I plan to soon but keep forgetting. Also how’d u get that font? I didn’t see it on the list and it’s really nice. Is there another list of fonts or something? Again thanks Dublyn!

Nuttetuff (  talk  )  20:45, July 23, 2018 (UTC)nuttetuff

I never thought of doing it that way! Thanks Dublyn! How do i put it in the code to fit tho?

Also that user was lying about the hacking most likely cuz on razumys post they said they were sorry. Kinda. It was weird. Anyways thanks again. I can’t stand it when users are rude to another especially when it’s slemthung they created themselves. Thanks! Nuttetuff (  talk  )  23:19, July 23, 2018 (UTC)Nuttetuff

Wow. Just. . . wow. I have not noticed he's said any of that, especially towards you, other than when I blocked him that first time, because that was one the reasons, as I stated, that it wasn't just him feeding the troll but having used profanity in the process, which is also against the rules, especially excessively. I have never noticed any of your posts being reported, although I use the app a lot, but it's useless when it comes to knowing who reported a post. I'm taking care of this right now, as I promise you, this behavior will not be tolerated and I will make sure of it.

Can you link me to examples of his comments that were more directly towards you? There doesn't seem to be any recent ones.--

Ah. I did find that last post. I've already blocked him for a month. Maybe he'll learn.--

A Question
Hi Dublyn - Fangalpr here, I am seeking your opinion on the filmography layout that I edited on T.J. Miller's page. I didn't provide a before and after look here because I think it's better if you see it for yourself. You can somewhat compare the difference with Brook Chalmers', though. Anyway, I thought the white areas were a bit too eye-catching from the rest as its color is very different from the wiki in general. So ... I did some customization here and there. Please let me know what your thoughts are on this and anything else you would like to suggest. Thanks! Lasscess (talk) 00:17, August 2, 2018 (UTC) (I will be copy/pasting this message to the other staff as well)

New Art Thief
Hey Dublyn, I just caught one of the new users being an art thief. Here's the post Click  How To Train Your Deathsong ( [[User talk:How To Train Your Deathsong| ) 20:43, August 2, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Question
Hello Dublyn, I just wanted to write to say thanks a bunch for checking it out! I'm really glad you think so. I will update the tables for the other articles too. Lasscess (talk) 02:02, August 3, 2018 (UTC)

Interview page
Per a previous discussion of ours, I have finally created a collected interviews page - How to Train Your Dragon Franchise Interviews. I added the small list I had for HTTYD3, but of course there are tons of others to be added. I am kind of under the impression you have some sort of collection or knowledge of others for previous films and such? I am intending it to be organized by media title, then by cast/crew person, since I think people other than Dean have been interviewed in the past ...

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:53, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, whenever, the page can sit there. And definitely refs for the shows and comics and whatnot, too! I just added the movies because they garnered the most activity, I'd say. As far as tweets and other social media - do you mean ones directly from the cast/crew? I certainly don't see why not.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:49, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

Hey, Dublyn! Can you send me the link for that discussion where Nuttetuff and i fought over the spelling of color? I need it for a personal project, just for some of the dialouge. Thanks! CyberVenus1 (talk) 11:57, August 7, 2018 (UTC)CyberVenus1

Hi I'm pretty new here! I was wondering if you could answer a few questions I had?JasonGrave (talk) 06:35, August 9, 2018 (UTC)jasongrave

idea for newbies on discussions
Hi Dublyn. With this new wave of newer people making some mistakes (some VERY BIG) I was wondering if maybe u could make a post or something with the rules to let them know cuz the rules is kinda easy to miss and I just thought maybe to lessen the work for u? Idk if there’s another thing to Sosa’s the rules faster but just an idea so peeps get them faster. Thanks.

Nuttetuff (  talk  )  13:57, August 10, 2018 (UTC)Nuttetuff

Re:Finding a Discussion Page
Thanks. CyberVenus1 (talk) 11:42, August 13, 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Plagerism
Hey dublyn. Uh so u have probably seen what has happened on Alissa Lou Jordan's post. And it was kinda bad. Im sorry that had to happen. I think alissa would like u to lock or delete it. Im sorry that happened. I tried to help and stop the argument. Sorry if my helping makes things worse XD. Well thanks Dublyn.

Nuttetuff (  talk  )  22:43, August 22, 2018 (UTC)Nuttetuff

I think a rule like that would be great. I justwish the fandom platform had a more apparent rules section. It’s so small and hard to find. Tbh I didn’t know there was a rule page for the longest time. Bu I was so shy that I just kept quiet and followed around till it all came to me. But again thanks for deleting that. Newt went a little wild but I think deleting it was best choice. Whether she was lying or not who knows. Again thanks and I’m happy to help. Nuttetuff (  talk  )  04:32, August 23, 2018 (UTC)Nuttetuff

Hi Dub :)

Sorry, I don't know how to categorize this for you so sorry :)

Um I have two questions for you

1. How do you do userboxes I asked How To Train your DeathSong I I still couldn't do it after he explained it 2 times so I wanted to ask you and see if you could help me.

2. How do you make your signature I am a little confused

Write back when you can.

DeathSongLover (talk) 03:39, August 26, 2018 (UTC)DeathSongLoverDeathSongLover (talk) 03:39, August 26, 2018 (UTC)

THANKS DUB That was a real help :) :) :) :) :) DeathSongLover (talk) 21:50, August 26, 2018 (UTC) DeathSongLoverDeathSongLover (talk) 21:50, August 26, 2018 (UTC)​​​​​​​

Hey dublyn sorry I never got back to you about the questions I had. This talk page is hard to figure out so I just looked them up but thank you for offering! I was just on the discussion page and I found one called "bye" it was by triple strike something I forget but I'm really worried and I was wondering if you could do anything about triple strike I'm really worried! Thanks for all you do and if you can point me to some one else that would work too! JasonGrave (talk) 00:49, August 30, 2018 (UTC) JasonGrave

Hi dub :)

I was wondering if you could Help Triple Stryke with the "Bye" post I feel really bad

I don't want him to kill himself mabey could you help him. I feel worried for him even though he was mean ( that what I heard) I mean it's not ok but everyone has bad days and everyone makes mistakes so I just wanted to know if you could help him/her.?

DeathSongLover (talk) 04:46, August 31, 2018 (UTC)DeathSongLoverDeathSongLover (talk) 04:46, August 31, 2018 (UTC)

Featured Articles - Autumn 2018
Hi! Since Autumn is coming soon, I thought we should discuss the new set of featured articles. I nominate Dragonvine for the Featured Other, as it will be released next week and the Skrill for the Featured Dragon because it is very popular among fans. I was thinking that the Featured Character should be one of the main characters, but I'm not sure which one would be the best. What do you think?

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  05:21, August 31, 2018 (UTC)

While I do have a copy of Dragoonvine coming to me, I wasn't the one to order it. It was pre-ordered for me by brother, as a Christmas gift. So, it will be a very late Christmas gift, due to the release date change. Plus, I know my brother has Amazon prime, like me, and through prime we get free two day shipping, and when it comes to a pre-order, when ordered it with free two day shipping we are guaranteed to get the item on the day it is released. So I will have get it on Tuesday, the day it is released. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 13:20, August 31, 2018 (UTC)