User blog comment:Dual Energon/What I think makes HTTYD 2 the supremely better movie./@comment-24018437-20151113155518/@comment-24865409-20151122033718

@ Megadracosaurus

"They did that in after the first World War, and look what happened."

No. Britain and France didn't let Germany rebuild and observe what happens.

They charged Germany an impossibly high amount of reparations that made the Germans hungry for vengeance.

They regretted that decision after roughly 15 years, to the point where they let Germany build up their resoucres and manpower while being complacent about it.

If they had just let Germany rebuild and keep on their guard, things would have turned out differently.

President Woodrow Wilson from America had the right idea.

"I honestly don't give a crap about what they think of me. XD"

Good for ya.

"But I don't think comparing the fate of a real soldier's sacrifice to that of a fictional one makes a lot of sense in the grand scheme of sense."

Well then I guess that's because we live in different places.

Talking about trigger-happy attitudes...

In HTTYD 1, during dragon training Snot, Ruff, Tuff and Astrid were quite trigger-happy.

Did they seriously not know any better?

"Did those people ever ask for a war? Did they fire at you? Did they have the power to stop the war? No, they did not."

Neither did our own civilians who were killed in the crossfire.

"And in the end, the bombing wasn't necessary."

Maybe in your opinion.

"Not just the oh so evil soldiers, but also innocent men, women, children and infants....In fact, probably little to no soldiers died."

It was still a strategic bombing. We attacked their homeland and wrecked it. That would be the weight that breaks the camel's back.

"Imagine if two countries are fighting one another at the other side of the world for something that has nothing to do with you."

The general mindset in war is "if you're not with us, then you're against us".

Lots of far-off countires could be eventually attacked simply because they don't side with one of the fighters. And said fighter would see that as an insult/threat.

"Also, I'd like to point that the soldiers in the Middle-East killed MORE innocent people then the terrorists did at 9/11...Yeah, let that sink in."

...So?

Lots of us are more than happy to return the favour.

"Those Middle-Easterns didn't start the war: Terrorists did."

Those Middle-Easterns could still take steps to stopping those terrorists.

"I assume you are going by the 'An Eye for an Eye' mentality?"

I totally agree with that mentality. As long as it doesn't get in the way of my moral code.

And yes, I'd attack the one's responsible.

"Bin Laden didn't see himself as a dishonourable hypocrite."

Well he was and that's a fact.

"Hitler didn't see himself as a mass murderer."

I was cool with Hitler UNTIL he started killing children unncessarily.

"Diplomacy can fail."

EXACTLY. And THAT is where war is necessary.

Well first of all, if they started the dirty fighting first - then they started it.

And I'd say that's more than enough justification to return favours.

"You make it sound like revenge."

I'm cool with revenge - as along as it's directed at the right person/people.

"If your idea of justice is committing war crime after war crime in the name of 'good', then our ideas of justice are quite different."

Hell yeah.

Our ideas of justice are different.

You got a problem with that?

"Other Tribes have actually made cameos or were mentioned."

Examples PLEASE.

"Same for Dragon Hunters and Pirates."

Dragon Hunters are about to appear in the show.

But there have been no appearances of Pirates.

If so - examples PLEASE.

"But the Berserkers and Outcasts focused on Berk for a rather obvious reason: they wanted trained Dragons as well. None of the other Tribes had those. Why would they attack those if they had nothing to offer?"

But even so, don't the other tribes don't call inter-tribal meetings?

What about checking up on each other?

None of that has been shown (except for the chieftain gathering in HTTYD 2 - but then again that's why HTTYD 2 is the best thing to come out of the movie-verse).

"Being a hypocrite is indeed a flaw of Hiccup."

Hiccup does have flaws... in HTTYD 2 and Race to the Edge.

He's presented as a Gary Stu in previous media.

Astrid could have befriended Fishlegs and Hiccup. They are most certainly not incompetent and not annoying and not selfish.

And Hiccup actually viewed Astrid as one of the nicer kids along with Fishlegs when compared to the others. He didn't just idealize her beauty. He also viewed Astrid as an awesome and definitive viking, one that he aspired to be like.

"I don't blame her for not wanting to be friends with them."

I do. She does need friends that will keep her on the ground.

"Actually, she wasn't his girlfriend."

Really? Well that's another thing that HTTYD 1 failed to get across.

"...and its made clear in the first few episodes they aren't together. 'According to the writers, they became officially a couple off-screen during the series...'"

Well, I don't remember much from the first few episodes - not that I want to - but at least you backed up your point by having evidence of the writers saying that they became a couple off-screen.

"I wouldn't really call a simple punch to the shoulder that is more akin to a slap on the back violence."

She can find better ways of communicating love than just resorting to that stupid gag ALL THE F***ING TIME.

Yes, they scrapped that character trait by the 2nd Movie, but I want to see some development to that in the show.

And you forget, if the roles were switched, there'd be an outrage.

And if they're (apparently) a couple by the time of Race to the Edge, how come they haven't had a f***ing date yet?!

Is a date too much for the writers to f***ing handle?!

Sorry for these last few bits, but those are the problems I have with Hiccstrid before HTTYD 2.

In Season 3 (and 4) I want to see ON-SCREEN how they got to that relationship stage shown in HTTYD 2.