User talk:The Woolly Howl

Scauldron Island
I have created a page for Scauldron Island, Can you put it on the navbox map, please?

Ladybrasa (talk) 02:37, March 28, 2017 (UTC)  =^..^=

Sleipnir Island is ready to be added to the map navbox! Someone had already created its page earlier this month.

Ladybrasa (talk) 01:01, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Speed Stinger Island is ready to be added to the map navbox!

Ladybrasa (talk) 02:38, March 30, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry again. For whatever reason my stupid computer/internet/wiki is not allowing me to create new pages again. I won't be able to try again - if it works - until after work tomorrow. So, if it isn't too much trouble, might you be able to create the following page for Sunken City? I will try to post the code below and all it would need is to be copy/pasted (with whatever edits you see fit, of course!). I'm sorry, whatever is going on to prevent me from creating pages only sometimes is vastly irritating!!

Sunken City is a location searchable by Toothless in the game, Dragons: Rise of Berk.

Geography
This oddly named island doesn't appear to have human structures on it, based on its image on Hiccup's Race to the Edge map. It looks rather barren, perhaps muddly (solely based on the darker brown shade) with a lake and either a mountain or a pit at its center.

Other Appearances
Sunken City does appear on the Interactive Map on the Dragons: Race To the Edge website. The island thus far is not featured in this TV series, however.

Site Navigation
Ladybrasa (talk) 02:43, March 30, 2017 (UTC)ladybrasa

Sunstone Island
Below is code for Sunstone Island. If you could copy/paste it onto a new page, that's be great. Sorry for having to ask this! Also, both Sunken City and Sunstone Island can go on the map in the navbox.

Sunstone Island is an island appearing in Dragons: Defenders of Berk, and is also location

searchable by Toothless in the game, Dragons: Rise of Berk.

Geography
According to the image of Sunstone Island on Hiccup's Race to the Edge map, it has much vegetation and

perhaps large old trees, based on the single tree stylized on the map image.

"Appetite for Destruction"
The Dragon Riders survey dragon populations on several islands. The Riders have marked the dragons of

Sunstone Island with orange paint. As the Riders each mark dragons, they realize that dragons from one

island are ending up on the others. They discover that these islands are being systematically destroyed

and the dragon populations are migrating. A Screaming Death is responsible, destroying islands as it

makes its way to Berk.

Other Appearances
Sunstone Island does appear on the Interactive Map on the Dragons: Race To the Edge website. However, no

special description is given.

Trivia

 * Historically, there is an as-yet unproven theory that Vikings used sunstones to help navigate their longships. Sunstone is a mineral that is able to polarize light, so in theory a Viking at sea could look through the stone and find out where the Sun was located on a cloudy day.

Site Navigation
Ladybrasa (talk) 03:09, March 30, 2017 (UTC)ladybrasa

Changes
Oh my god! All the changes that have happened! Wow! Good work! - lavamelon  ( talk ) 13:59, March 30, 2017 (UTC)

You know how I haven't really been active here in a while? Lots has happened, lots of things I planned to do I have wonderfully found done! Like the "Archives" thing. Anyhow, I won't archive my talk until the one year anniversary of my joining this wiki takes place. I also like all the templates with quotes that are at the top of the pages! I was planning on doing that too. Good work! - lavamelon  ( talk ) 14:06, March 30, 2017 (UTC)

Glad to hear! - lavamelon  ( talk ) 20:51, March 30, 2017 (UTC)

Location Pages and Such
Sorry to bother you again. STILL not able to create a page this evening so ... if you don't mind copying and pasting again? Thank you!!!

Also, Speed Stinger Island is ready to put on the Map in the Navbox!

Swarmlands
The Swarmlands is a location searchable by Toothless in the game, Dragons: Rise of Berk.

Geography
There is an image that appears on Hiccup's Race to the Edge Map. However, it is rather nondescript - brown with no indication of contour or vegetation.

Other Appearances
The Swarmlands do appear on the Interactive Map on the Dragons: Race To the Edge website. The island thus far is not featured in this TV series, however.

Tall Tree Island
Tall Tree Island is an island that first appeared in "Appetite for Destruction".

"Appetite for Destruction"
The Dragon Riders survey dragon populations on several islands. Fishlegs marks the dragons of Tall Tree Island with green paint. As the Riders each mark dragons, they realize that dragons from one island are ending up on the others. They discover that these islands are being systematically destroyed and the dragon populations are migrating. A Screaming Death is responsible, destroying islands as it makes its way to Berk.

Team Hiccup
  is a location searchable by Toothless in the game, Dragons: Rise of Berk.

Team Snotlout
  is a location searchable by Toothless in the game, Dragons: Rise of Berk.

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Ladybrasa (talk) 19:05, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

And yet again, I can create pages, I can't create pages, I can create pages, and at present I can't! So So frustrating. Below is another page if you don't mind copy/pasting it. If I can create pages again before you get on, I'll let you know. Thank you!

Also Thor Rock Island is ready to be added to the Navbox Map!

Thorstopia
EDIT: I had posted code to copy/paste, but, right this moment, I was able to do it myself! Yay! So I deleted it so your talk page won't get too long from all my prattling!

Ladybrasa (talk) 19:05, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Thunderclaw Island
Was able to add this one myself later on also, but Thunderclaw Island still needs to be added to the Map in the NavBox. Thank you!

Whispering Death Island
Whispering Death Island is ready to be added to the Map in the Navbox!

(Almost) Final Locations on Location List
Tyr Island is ready to be added to the Navbox Map! As far as I know of, this location isn't seen anywhere else?

Made a page for Mount Ymir, but it is in desperate need of images. I am not able to do it at the moment :(

So we only need a page for "School of Dragons (Island)" and then to check over the locations on the navbox map. I had updated some, but not all yet.

THANK YOU
Hello! I just want to say thank you for doing and helping so much on this wiki! You've worked on some of my favorite pages and I just want to say thank you! Well. . . uh. . . Thanks!

MiraculousLadybugFangurl8092 (talk) 03:00, March 31, 2017 (UTC)MiraculousLadybugFangurl8092

Thanks for reading my request.
People in china always say that in Singapore, people can also speak chinese,and I don't know if it is true :P. If you can read chinese, I think I can explain the things more clearly in chinese:

十分感谢您抽空阅读我发送的内容！

在跨维基农场的情况下，interwiki link是无法使用的，除非我们手动更改相关代码和程序. 然而，更改维基的interwiki link需要stuff权限.

huiji的管理员（有在wikia编辑的经历）告诉我，wikia的站长可以自己更改interwiki，在special:interwiki里，但是我不太确定.

在huiji，网站方面已经提供了一套模板，使编辑者可以方便地添加指向wikipedia和wikia英文页面的链接，而我不太清楚wikia是否有相似的机制. 详情请看：帮助:跨语言链接. 如果说直接用interwiki link会比较困难的话，您可以用添加外链的方式来添加链接.

我非常希望我们双方能在主页加上对方的链接，促进我们的交流和合作. 如果贵站想使用wikia提供的interwiki link，链接贵站和驯龙的中文wikia站点的话，完全没有问题. 当然，如果贵站允许直接添加huiji的链接，我将感到万分荣幸！

关于“驯龙记”和“驯龙高手”两个维基的问题. 首先在2010年本片上映时，在香港台湾和中国大陆等地，就使用了不同的译名，目前的现状是，这两个译名在中国大陆同时被粉丝们使用. 在我刚刚接触wiki时，因为我对这里的环境不太熟悉，就有了一些小小的失误. 现在这两个站是作为一种类似“重链接”的角色出现.

（其实比起片名，角色的名字更加混乱. 比如Hiccup就有“小嗝嗝”（官方的）、“希卡普”、“卡嗝”等多个中文译名，这对使用单一标准译名表的中文维基来说，无疑是一大挑战. ）

最后恭祝生活愉快，祝贵站越办越好！

The interwiki link will not work if we are in different wiki farms, only if we ask stuff to change the code for us, but we will never know how they think about this... (some of the website managers said we can change them in "special:interwiki")

To add the link in the main page we can try to use this below:

[Chinese]

so it will looks like Chinese Wiki

In huiji they provide a template to build a inter-wiki-farm link such as wikia:pagename So we can offer our users the English version conveniently. 帮助:跨语言链接

If you want to build a link to zh-wikia site, there will be no problem. But I hope you can build the link to huiji. It might be a little difficult to link EVERY pages between the two wiki farms. Or maybe using template can work but I am not sure. But I think it is unnecessary now:P.

Best wishes,

MycroftQin

Mycro (talk) 03:14, March 31, 2017 (UTC)MycroftQin

zh-wikia的话，选简体（Simplified Chinese）吧；） Mycro (talk) 08:47, March 31, 2017 (UTC)MycroftQin

Re: Sea Stacks
Actually there is already a page, Sea Stacks, that looks like it was created last year. It really needs some help, though! As to adding it to the map, sure!

Ladybrasa (talk) 00:16, April 1, 2017 (UTC)ladybrasa

Certainly start adding dragons! But I haven't finished going over some of the locations on the map part of the navbox. I think there are more that are mentioned in ROB.

Also, Edge Cove ... Should that location be combined with the Dragon's Edge page, since its on the same island? Also, Snotlout has a Journey in ROB for "Edge Cave" ... if Edge Cove has its own page, should "Edge Cave" have one?

And, ROB has a search location called Hunter Island. Do you think that is meant to be a separate location than Dragon Hunter Island?

Also, a location called "Northern Swamp" featured in "Fright of Passage" - I haven't watched the Defenders of Berk for a few years. Do you recall if this location is on Berk, or somewhere else near Berk? The Wikia entry leads me to think its on Berk ... do you recall?

I just feel like there are so many other islands/locations that are missing! :(

Ladybrasa (talk) 03:02, April 2, 2017 (UTC)  =^..^=

Okie Dokie, I'll start working on it!

Any images you can find would be great!

Also, I've been looking back at the episode summaries on the wikia, and came across a few more locations, most un-named. ONLY IF YOU HAVE TIME, could you possibly confirm these islands and get screen shots?

1) Defenders of Berk - "Tunnel Vision" - Our page indicates that the Screaming Death rests on an un-named island at the end of the show.

2) Northern Swamp - working on this one.

3) "Appetite for Destruction" - I think all those islands could benefit from more screen shots. Also, there is a fan version of the map from that episode here. Is there actually a "Last Island" or is it purely made up?

4) In "We Are Family, Part 1", Snotlout flies off angry and dubs an island "Snotland".

5) There are several mentions of Heather's "Home Island" in Defenders of Berk. I think this is the home island of her adoptive parents? We didn't know about her connection with Dagur and the Berserkers yet at that time. Is there any other info on "Heather's Island"?

Ladybrasa (talk) 23:02, April 3, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Unnamed Islands+Sourcing Pictures Update
PLEASE, take all the time you want! Real Life takes precedent!

Turns out, thanks to Netflix allowing download of episodes, I can get screen shots on my phone from an RttE episodes! They are the best, but not bad either! So I can work on those, slowly!

I'll get to work on "Snotland"!

Ladybrasa (talk) 13:29, April 4, 2017 (UTC)

Oops, seems Snotland is in "Cast Out, Part 1" not "We Are Family, Part 1"!

Also my computer is acting up again >:(

Snotland
Snotland is a small island that appears in the Dragons: Defenders of Berk episode, "Cast Out, Part 1".

Geography
Snotland is a small island of mostly sand and rocky spires. There are a few stubby trees, which Hookfang promptly incinerates.

"Cast Out, Part 1"
Snotlout is grounded from flying and kicked out of the Academy, for making reckless decisions that negatively affect his teammates. In defiance, he flies away from Berk and lands on an island he dubs "Snotland". As he later finds out, he and Hookfang are not the only residents.

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Ladybrasa (talk) 14:30, April 4, 2017 (UTC)

reply
我已收到你的消息，你的两个提议我都不反对，再次感谢你抽时间查看我的消息！ Mycro (talk) 00:22, April 5, 2017 (UTC)MycroftQin

That template's awesome! We can add it, but I don't want it at the top. It should stay at the bottom. And, yeah, go ahead. I'll add that to MediaWiki:Wikia.css right now for ya. Thanks!--http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/f/f8/Toothless_Glasses.gif/revision/latest?cb=20161110045342 Annabeth and Percy  🎵You're scared, I'm nervous, but I guess that we did it on purpose.🎵  http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/f/f8/Toothless_Glasses.gif/revision/latest?cb=20161110045342 13:09, April 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reply
Wow, thank you! Words failed to express my sincere thankness for you (maybe it is because of my English ;P)Nice template!Mycro (talk) 03:57, April 7, 2017 (UTC)MycroftQin

Green light. Yes!--http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/f/f8/Toothless_Glasses.gif/revision/latest?cb=20161110045342 Annabeth and Percy  🎵You're scared, I'm nervous, but I guess that we did it on purpose.🎵  http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/f/f8/Toothless_Glasses.gif/revision/latest?cb=20161110045342 12:48, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

So last week I created the merchandise portal page, and included links to several pages for different types of merchandise. I created the DVD page, but only added one DVD. I also so far have only uploaded one picture that is needed for the links to the places that are selling that specific piece of merchandise. I uploaded the Amazon, and will get the others uploaded shortly. What I want to ask is if you could help get the pages for the merchandise, such as the DVD page, a page for the games, and other pages set up. It is a lot of work, and I definitely need help. I have seen how much you have done on this wiki, and what you have done is not the easiest of things to do. That is why I am asking if you could help out with that. Also, I am trying to come up with pictures that would be in the boxes on the merchandise portal, which you would click to follow to the pages with the merchandise. I saw how you came up with brilliant pictures for the templates I had added, and that you updated the templates in such a way that makes see that you are much more creative than me in coming up with good pictures for things like that, and in this franchise for the specific types of merchandise there are not any good pictures that I can think of that would work to go in the boxes for each type of merchandise, which is where your creativity and great thinking come in handy to choose a fitting picture for each box that pertains to particular bit of merchandise. Anyway, any help with the merchandise portal and the merchandise pages will be appreciated. One other thing is that I think you are deserving of admin rights, and I will say as much to Annabeth in the message I will give to her. I think your creativity could help with updating the achievement badges once you have admin rights since those need updating and need to be personalized for our wiki, with the default names replaced with names that fit with our franchise, and with pictures from this franchise instead of the default ones as well. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 16:29, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Done (permanently)! Welcome to the admin team. You've done an awesome job. I hope you stay around forever! Lol.--

Re:Unnamed Islands+Sourcing Pictures Update (again)
Hey, seems like we both had the same ideas about images for the island Heather is on in "Have Dragon Will Travel, Part 1"  :)  Since many are quite similar, maybe you could delete some of the images? Keep which ever are the better ones? I've added them to the Unnamed Island page.

Thanks!

Ladybrasa (talk) 22:29, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Yes, the pictures have to fit the size of the dimensions of the portal box. I only created the one size of portal box, but there are other portal box templates that can be created as well. Here is the link to the merchandise portal. The merchandise portal is not a template but rather a page, with links to the pages for different types of merchandise. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 22:49, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

I noticed you customized the badge names and pictures for the episode edit track. I just want to mention that that track is not being used as the media track is in it's place because it covers all the episodes, films, shorts, and other media, and not just the episodes. I made the episodes edit track before, I was asked to make it a media edit track instead, and I had to create a whole separate track for it since once a track is made you can't remove it or rename, and I just disabled that edit track for the reason that media track covered what it covered and more. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 13:58, April 8, 2017 (UTC)

One thing I see that you missed is that you did not do anything with the transcript edit track dor thr achievement badges. That track still has default pictures and names. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 16:23, April 8, 2017 (UTC)

Great job with the achievement badges. One more thing I noticed that for the badge for 25 edits to transcripts, that while it has been given a new name, it's picture is still the default picture. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 02:18, April 9, 2017 (UTC)

Pages for deletion? Really? I thought I cleaned those up a long time ago, though I guess there've been new ones since then and I haven't checked. But I'd really much rather not have something like that. I doubt users would use it anyway when they can just leave a comment about it on the page itself, though they should be reminded that they're just as capable of editing the page themselves (unless it's locked, which, unfortunately, we can't see unless they tell us). I don't want to have a page to look at for reports when I really prefer to get a message on my talk page as that would send me a notice and I will see it. So, I appreciate the suggestion, but let's not have something like that.--

RoB and SoD stats
Your welcome! Only a question: the dragons images in those templates MUST be always transparent or I can put whatever image of that dragon? Httyd big fan (talk) 05:19, April 10, 2017 (UTC)

I just want to get back to you about the Merchandise Portal and the merchandise pages it will link to. The one page I have created but not yet completed is a good example, and it is the pages that will contain all the DVD's, and their price and where they are sold. The link to it is here. Just so you do not have to go back and search for the link to the merchandise portal page that link is here. Just to say that the pages I am talking about are one's that would contain information about different types of merchandise, and the specific items that pertain to each one, along with the prices, and where they are sold. The only thing that makes sense is to have all of one type of merchandise on one page, and all another on another, and so on and so forth. The merchandise portal to me is something that will help those users to know all the merchandise that is out there that relates to How to Train Your Dragon, and to easily get to a website where a specific item is available to purchase, and that to me is something that is important for us to do but has not been done to this point, so setting this up is important. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 13:48, April 11, 2017 (UTC)

Image catogerie incident
Hey Howl, sorry for that accident i caused, i fully understand it and i will try to prevent myself from making this mistake again

Thedutchsniper (talk) 17:09, April 11, 2017 (UTC)

Unnamed Island and Others ...
Just to let you know, for whatever reason, I can't even edit any pages (except your talk page apparently) right now. I am on a different computer, too. And its only this Wiki. I can edit any other wiki, just not this one. We'll see if I try yet another computer, I guess, a little later. But this is getting tiresome and frustrating! Any ideas? Anyway, just to let you know I'd still like to work on the islands and locations, I just can't!

Ladybrasa (talk) 22:42, April 11, 2017 (UTC)

So last night, I was able to stay after work on a work computer and access the Wikia. I was able to access any Wikia in Firefox, except this one, to edit or create new pages. However, I was able to edit a page through Internet Explorer at work, but only - I guess its called - the Classic Editor. It was something :/   Now at home again tonight, can't access anything except your talk page!!

So, only if you have time, can you post the following thing(s)?

Please add to Ostara Isle:
(And update the info box with the new info, please! In case it hasn't been added to the Wikia yet, Springwing is a special Changewing)

To Add to Unnamed Islands:
(Please add between the "In Tone Death" entry and the "In Dragon Down (Comic)" entry)

In "Midnight Scrum"
"Midnight Scrum", and episode in Dragons: Race to the Edge, Season 4, starts with Hiccup running from a number of other Vikings of unknown origins. Toothless, Astrid, and Stormfly save him from being caught. They find out that Viggo Grimborn has placed a sizeable bounty on Hiccup's head.

This island appears rather large with mixed forests of deciduous trees with spear-shaped leaves and conifers. There are ample grassy slopes. Toothless is seen carrying a bucket of harvested ripe red apples.

In "Not Lout"
In the Dragons: Race to the Edge, Season 4 episode, "Not Lout", Hiccup discovers the source of the Dragons Hunter's abundant supply of Dragon Root arrows. They have a farming operation on this unnamed island. However, what Hiccup takes to be a plot of hidden Dragon Root plants under a camouflaged canopy, actually turns out to be large arrow-shooting weapons. Snotlout, having stayed behind on this mission, realizes that the canopies may be a trap, because Dragon Root plants require sun to grow, not shade.

The island is large with two snow-topped mountains and sparse wooded areas, some of which might be Dragon Root trees. The Dragon Hunters have established several buildings for farming and processing Dragon Root here, as well. The island also has at least one beach and docking area for ships.

Ladybrasa (talk) 01:19, April 14, 2017 (UTC)

So I can edit Talk pages in Firefox, and edit/add other pages in Explorer (classic editor only), but that's something I guess. Thank you for putting that stuff up!

Gotta a few questions:

1) The tavern - I have some screenshots and re-watched the episode ... I don't see how we know the tavern is located on Outcast Island? It wasn't mentioned as being located there, that I noticed. How do we know this?

2) Dragon Hunter Island - Viggo's camp, the marble dome, and the Dragon auction Viggo holds - how do we know this is Dragon Hunter Island? In Between a Rock and a Hard Place, Hiccup only refers to it as "Viggo's Island". And to my recollection, the location name of the Dragon auction is never said in Last Auction Heroes. The interactive RttE Map only says its a major port for Dragon trade. Are we just assuming this, or was it mentioned elsewhere?

Thanks!

Ladybrasa (talk) 01:52, April 15, 2017 (UTC)

Admin
Woah! You're admin now! Damn. I need to become active again. - lavamelon  ( talk ) 22:09, April 12, 2017 (UTC)

Lol, anyways, you deserve it. When I come back to stay (might be a while), I'll ask for admin rights. However, I do have to say, I'm less than impressed by some things. Like whose idea was it to change the sub-headings in the biography section to media titles? - lavamelon  ( talk ) 22:21, April 12, 2017 (UTC)

Here you go: Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III (Franchise). - lavamelon  ( talk ) 00:58, April 13, 2017 (UTC)

Good call. - lavamelon  ( talk ) 13:21, April 13, 2017 (UTC)

Yes, congratulations!! I can't believe how unactive I am now, even though I look at the wiki everyday, I barely edit now :( Can't believe how busy I am and how you can have so much time! Anyway, it is great to see you now compared to how you were 2 years ago! Lightning the Skrill (talk) 03:54, April 14, 2017 (UTC)

Yes, absolutely! Busy with exams that are comin up! Just look at my profile, it's soo outdated! But I'll try to be more active on the wiki! Lightning the Skrill (talk) 04:44, April 14, 2017 (UTC)

Badges
Hey Woolly, I would just like to ask if you finished the badges? Because if you did, I would like to say you've done a far better job than I could've ever possibly hoped to do! - lavamelon  ( talk ) 04:21, April 15, 2017 (UTC)

Wow! You do whatever you wish with the badges. I'll only intervene if I see something I don't like (not likely). Also, I would like to say, maybe we can purge a bunch of categories? Like do we need categories such as How to Be a Pirate that include everything that appeared in that piece of media. Like for example, you can see how messy the categories on pages such as Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III (Franchise). Take a look at this page. The categories look so much neater because it doesn't redundantly put in every piece of the media the character has appeared in. - lavamelon  ( talk ) 04:33, April 15, 2017 (UTC)

Sounds great. However, I would just like to let you know that I've been extra lazy recently so I might take a little while. - lavamelon  ( talk ) 04:41, April 15, 2017 (UTC)

I have no idea. I couldn't tell you about that. As for your signature, can you put it in Special:Preferences and use the image URL like I do with mine? It shouldn't show up after that. Also, do you not read the top of my talk page? Please don't make headers on my talk page. I don't like having a table of contents on it.--

Oh. Just so you know, You can press Leave Message at the top of the page and after you submit your message it'll automatically put it at the very bottom for you.--

Delete Please?
Hey, I uploaded pics for the Project Shellfire Base location yesterday, but incorrectly named them (they are from episode "Twintuition", not "Project Shellfire, Part 1"). Then I can re-upload them with the correct names. They are:

, , , , and.

Thanks!

Ladybrasa (talk) 23:47, April 16, 2017 (UTC)

How to create artsy signatures?
You have probably gotten this question numerous times, but how do you create a signature with pics and fancy fonts and colors? Is there a how-to page you can refer me to?

Ladybrasa (talk) 02:06, April 18, 2017 (UTC)

Actually, I did play around with that for like 2 hours yesterday (looked at your coding and a few other peoples') and just wasn't getting the same results? Like I tried the Mistral Font and it didn't show for me? Arial does, but so far that's it. And the shadow color doesn't seem to change. Oh well, I'll research a little more! Can you delete this pic, though? I need to play with it more to figure out how to change the background transparent.

Lady Brasa 22:34, April 18, 2017 (UTC)

Actually I'm working on it right now :)  As far as the Font - some others are working. I did notice on this particular computer your old siggie in the Mistral font isn't showing up either, so it must be something with the computer!

Since I have your ear, though, at what point do I change from "New Editor" to just "Editor" (or something else)? Technically I'm not new anymore, since I was editing before the new naming system and badges. Or is it based on the number of edits?

Lady Brasa  (talk)  23:21, April 18, 2017 (UTC)

How about this? :D

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:40, April 18, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for checking into that. I'm not seeing the connections - myself and some other users have been on the Wiki awhile and we are still called "New Editors", while others have no designation after their names. I am assuming "Dragon Rider" like you have is for admins? Some people that joined this year either have no designation or the "New Editor" on their profiles. Another example is user Httyd Big Fan, who has made many edits and been around awhile, but has no designation. Lavamelon has "Log Master of the Dragon Manual", which I am assuming is like for Content Mod or something similar? Not a biggie anyway, just curious!

Also, let me know if this siggie is too big ...

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:28, April 19, 2017 (UTC)

Character Infobox
Hi, I got an idea for a section in Character Infobxes. What if at the end of the info but before the gallery we would have a "Quote" section where it would be the best quote that the character said. I've seen this on Wing of Fire wiki and I thought it is a cool thing.

Here's an example from that wiki:



Httyd big fan (talk) 05:07, April 18, 2017 (UTC)

Pages to Create
Very sorry to bother you yet again. I have some images hanging on my profile page that might need pages of their own, but not sure what is appropriate to call them to go along with any naming conventions on the Wiki? There are pics of the two Scauldrons that Snorre the Vast had chained up and were using to battle the Dragon Riders in The Endless Night. I was thinking of a page called "Snorre's Scauldrons" for them, but not sure if this is a good name? Or maybe "Snorre the Vast's Scauldrons"?

Other pics are of several barely mentioned Berkians also seen in The Endless Night. There is already a page for Kevlar, but there were others mentioned named Nozehair, Cleftjaw, Wreckless Ericsson, and Kyndling. There are images for Nozehair and Cleftjaw, though we don't know which is which. There are only mentions by name and no images for Wreckless Ericsson and Kyndling. Should these guys even get pages? Is there a minor character page or something like that?

Thirdly, there is an object from the mini-Comic "Smeltdown". In the comic it is referred to as the "The Flame-tastic Inferno-class firepower plus" which is quite a mouthful. Or would "Smeltdown Machine" or "Hiccup's Smeltdown Machine" be appropriate?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:47, April 19, 2017 (UTC)

Very sorry, just confuzzled your talk page some :(

So to clarify, call the Smeltdown Machine the "The Flame-tastic Inferno-class firepower plus"? Yes, definitely the Snowmaggedon kids should have pages, too. Kind of thought they already did, but I guess not. Eerika has one, so Ketil and the others should, too!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:47, April 19, 2017 (UTC)

I actually have no idea. Maybe a few days? As for affiliations, I mean, I guess we could do that. Should be specific about what kind of affiliations we should have or just be free to affiliate with any wiki that wants to?--

Ok. We can do that.--

It's good!--

So, I can't get at my computer tonight so I thought I'd try my phone - it worked, but it's difficult typing an such! I updated a page successfully. However, I wanted to add a pic to Healer's Island, and then I kept getting the eternal loading screen again, like on all the computers! >:( So ... do you mind adding ROB-GobbersJourney.JPG to the Healer's Island gallery? Thank you! Lady Brasa  (  talk  )  01:42, April 21, 2017 (UTC)

http://riseofberk.wikia.com/wiki/Dragons:_Rise_of_Berk_WikiGrieve98674 (talk) 06:17, April 21, 2017 (UTC)

Your contributions to the main page are gorgeous! - lavamelon  ( talk ) 04:26, April 23, 2017 (UTC)

Keep up the good work! - lavamelon  ( talk ) 04:32, April 23, 2017 (UTC)

Article Standards Examples
Just wanted to say these are very helpful! I wasn't really sure how to format those mentioned character pages I added.

Also question: For the Dragon Species page example, is that for Franchise, or both? For the Book species, there's typically not that much info. When I updated the Book species a year ago it was generally the Infobox, brief summary statement, headings Traits and Abilities, occasionally Appearances, Gallery, maybe Trivia if any, and References. Is this okay for Book species? Many species just have a paragraph because they were only mentioned and there is little info. I do intend at some point to go over those pages again and update them.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:13, April 23, 2017 (UTC)

Oh! Got it. Sorry, thank you so much Wooly. 😊

Dublyn~ (talk) 23:26, April 23, 2017 (UTC)

More InfoBoxes needed?
Should there (or are there) infoboxes for non-dragon animals and special plants? I am looking at the Yak page (adding a pic) and it looks ... unfinished. I don't know how to make one.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:45, April 23, 2017 (UTC)

Sure, uhmmm, for Animals how about:


 * Title =


 * Image =


 * Tame = (as in Wild or Domestic/livestock)


 * Use = (as in what people use them for like milk, eggs, meat, etc)


 * Distribution = (where seen)


 * Diet =


 * Habitat = (like pasture, woods, water, etc)


 * Individuals = (like known individuals like Tuffnut's Chicken and such)


 * First Appearance = (not sure if we need this since some animals are seen so often in the background?


 * Last Appearance =


 * Gallery = (not sure if needed, maybe if someone gets image happy with chickens or something ...)


 * Source =

For Plants:

Sure, uhmmm, for Animals how about:


 * Title =


 * Image =


 * Cultivated = (as in gardened or grows wild)


 * Real = (is the plant made-up for the media or does it exist in the real world?)


 * Use =


 * Distribution = (where seen)


 * Habitat = (like pasture, woods, water, tropical, etc)


 * First Appearance =


 * Last Appearance =


 * Gallery = (not sure if needed)


 * Source =

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:23, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

Also, only if you have time, can you look over Gallery: Mildew, please? Since I was adding a pic earlier, I tried to organize it, but not sure if I did it correctly and there were a few pics I didn't know what episodes they were from. Or is there someone else I should bother for that? Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:59, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! And, sorry, one more thing, I mis-titled another image: EndlessNight-Alvin.JPG. Could you delete that one? Thank you.

And possibly final question for the night - you mentioned you had started working on updating the dragon species distributions - where are you right now? I'm guessing its easiest to go species by species and check through each location? Don't want to overlap what you may have already done! As far as locations, I just need to figure out about Dragon Hunter Island and those other places that may or may not be the same place, but other than that I think its as done as I know of. Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:56, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

Oh wow, I supposed doing the dragon distribution would have taken a long time!! Do you recall roughly when you finished? I might remember what I could have added/updated location-wise since that point.

And thanks so much for the new infoboxes!! Now, should Plants and Animals have their own Navbox, too? Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:22, April 25, 2017 (UTC)

Would a Navbox for plants and animals be warranted as well? They aren't exactly inanimate objects. What do you think? Since there are a number of plants and animals, but not that many, perhaps it could just be a Navbox for both Franchise and Books? Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:58, April 26, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for making the Plant and Animal Navbox! I did fiddle with it a bit, with my extremely tiny amount of coding knowledge. I changed the title to Flora and Fauna instead of just Wildlife, as that implies only wild animals. Also I attempted to separate the plants and animals from each other. Please check it! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:33, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Dragon Life cycle Pictures
Hi! I tried what you asked on the Monstrous Nightmare, and I was wondering if you could check it out to see if I did it right or want me to make a few adjustments. Thank you for the advice, by the way!

Comet (  talk  )

Nice job with the community-to-do list. Liked that it was split into high, medium and low priority columns. I took a look at it and I think you covered. I take another look later just to see if I can think of anything not listed on the community-to-do list page. About the relationship pages, there was hesitation by the previous admins about creating relationship pages, and eventually The Astrid and Hicccup Relationship page was decided it was needed. I am for any relationship page that is necessary because I think that type of page is important. The dragon-rider relationships do deserve pages. In terms of relationships between humans, of the three canon boy-girl relationships only Astrid and Hiccup have enough info to make a page make sense. Stoick and Valka do not have that much information with most of it coming from HTTYD2, and Fishegs and Heather have not that much information either, not a huge focus at all in the time that they were a couple. So at this point I agree that the dragon-rider relationship pages are a high priority and very important, but are the only relationship pages that need to be added at this point. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 11:56, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

Okay. Thank you! Comet (  talk  )

Dragon Subspecies Infobox
I have seen that there are a lot of dragon subspecies. Some of them have Dragon Infobox and some have Character Infobox. And I'm thinking that we should have a Dragon Subspecies Infobox. I really thought about it and I think that the info in that infobox should be:

-name

-image

-breed

-class

-distinguish features and abilities

-season frequented*

-first appearance

-last appearance

-gallery

(*as you may have noticed, in Rise of Berk the subspecies came in a specific season e.g. Sneezlehunch-winter; Melting Wing-spring etc.)

I don't know how to make an infobox so I decided to ask you. Is it a good idea? Could you do it? Let me know.

Httyd big fan (talk) 16:52, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

I just thought of something in terms of relationship pages that should be created. Another relationship page that I think is important is one for Hiccup and Stoick's relationship. That is a very important father-son relationship and the biggest one in the franchise, and a very important one as well. Another relationship page that should be created is one for Gobber and Stoick's relationship, which is another type of relationship. I have not considered others that fit within the categories of those two types of relationship yet, but I feel that that there could be some relationships in the franchise that fall into the either type of relationship listed in that message, that could use a page. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 01:46, May 1, 2017 (UTC)

I think having a page for Fishlegs and Hiccup's relationship is a good idea. I also think that a page for the Ruffnut and Tuffnut's relationship is a good idea as well. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 13:58, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

I certainly would love to have more participation from users in terms of what needs to be done on this wiki. I wish users would at least view the to-do list, and see what they can do. I think getting the transcripts all completed is important, as some transcripts have nothing, some are partial, and some have just what is said, but not who said. That being said I did several transcripts myself, but when I did them I did just what was said, so for those transcripts, they need to be edited to include all actions that happened in the episode since I did not add those when I did the transcripts. For the episode pages I think that in some cases the summaries need to be expanded, in other cases where the complete summary has been written the summary needs to be read by someone else and fixed up to remove grammar mistakes, and to improve the summary. Also, some episode pages could use more trivia, and possibly background information which is not exactly the same as trivia. Also a continuity section on the episode pages is also very important, since there are continuity nods throughout the tv series, and second film. There also needs to be a section for the cast of an episode, on each episode page. But in terms of all the major things that need to be done to improve the wiki, not much is being done to move forward on those, and it would be nice to find a way to get more users to work on the most important things for the wiki. The only thing I could think of that might be an issue is that users not knowing about the to-do list, as it is on a page that most users would never think to go to for something like that. So, one way is to in some way give users a notice and a link to the page with the to-do list. But even with that, that might not help get more users to do more work on the wiki, and in that front I do not have any ideas about how to do that, and I think asking Annabeth would be a good idea, as she might come up with something that I am unable to come up with. And yes, in terms of the time it takes and how hard it is, things like transcripts don't get done because of that. So, really I think that to encourage a user to work on things like that, we can encourage splitting that up, and working on a specific transcript over several days. Overall, I too would like to see more done on this wiki, so we can get it to where we want it to be, and have it be a much more complete wiki than it is now. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 16:34, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

I'm honestly not sure how to increase more editing or interest in doing so. I mean, it is a volunteer job entirely, and even with myself, so busy with other things it's hard to find the time to do so. Whatever you two have planned, I'm all for.--

I do like the idea, but of course it will be tougher to make it work since we are not as big a wiki in terms of editors as the wiki you gave a link to in your last message to me. That said, I won't hurt to try it out, because the worst that could happen is that it does not work out, and nothing ends up happening. I think it is best to at least try it out, and see whether there are people willing to work collaboratively on important pages. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 14:42, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

i hand drew the drawings i put in the gallary. all i did was scan them into the computer.

toothless tail fin and saddle drawings
I hand Drew these. i just scaned them from my printer and put them on a desktop. afterwards, i decided to put them here.

from:

Charlescarmichael1

One thing that I just thought of that needs to be added to the community to-do list is the cleanup of references on pages, in that incorrectly used reference links for internal sources, have to be changed from being like this: to this: name of internal source. In some cases as well, excess linking needs to be cleaned up, as a page should only be linked once, and if a page is long enough, than starting a certain amount down, like 2/3 of the way down the page, reminder links should be added. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 14:06, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

I am not sure you completely understood me in terms of excessive linking. A page should only be linked the first time it appears. If a page is long enough, then starting 2/3 or 3/4 of the way down the page, depending on how long the page is, reminder links be added. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 14:16, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

I just created a page for the layout for episode page, and here is the link to it. I want to know what you think of it. While thinking about the layout different types of articles, I thought that if we are going to do it than, a page creation portal would be helpful. For an example of one, go here. I think a page creation portal will be nice because we can create the pages like the one I did for the episode layout above, and put a link to it on the page creation portal page, and when clicking on the button for the specific type of article you are creating the article layout from that type of page will automatically be applied into the source editor for the new page you are creating. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 19:28, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

Small Character Dilemma
I just updated the page for Phil the Sheep. What Navbox should I use for non-Dragon animal characters?

Also, the Hammerhead Yak and Hammerhead Whale - I got the sense that these were characters made up in Gobber's story, but their pages talk of them as being fictional species. Should I update the page as a species or a character? Thanks!

And since I'm pestering you now (sorry), should the Berserker and Outcast Ships have a page? We have a page for Dragon Hunter Ships. Alot of info would be from the battles in SOD. Also, should there be a page for Gobber's parents or just discussed on Gobber's page? They are unnamed and appear only in Legend of the Boneknapper Dragon. Also a page for Fishleg's Regatta Ship, seen in Dawn of the Dragon Racers? We have pages for other ships, though Fishleg's ship, to my recollection, isn't named.

Also, I'm pretty sure all mentioned and minor human characters from the Comics have pages now. A few need to be fleshed out  and pics added, but I am (very slowly) working on that. Off the top of my head the only dragon characters from the comic that need a page is Chilblain's Thaw Fleet, but I'm working on that, too. Oh, and Ack, Mrs. Ack, and another named Scuttleclaw baby from The Serpent's Heir. I'm assuming they are meant to be the ones they rode from Valka's Mountain in HTTYD 2?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:37, May 6, 2017 (UTC)

Also, the Hammerhead Yak and Hammerhead Whale - I got the sense that these were characters made up in Gobber's story, but their pages talk of them as being fictional species. Should I update the page as a species or a character? Thanks!

Updated - almost - the Hammerhead Yak page, but which NavBox (if any) should I use? Just want to be consistent!

Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:19, May 6, 2017 (UTC)

New Template
Hey Woolly, can you see this template on Wookieepedia? I want this template to be added this template to this wiki. We have a LOT of articles with conjectural titles! Can you do this for me? - lavamelon  ( talk ) 18:17, May 6, 2017 (UTC)

Uhhh.... no? Just do what you must. - lavamelon  ( talk ) 01:10, May 7, 2017 (UTC)

It's great! Thank you so much! - lavamelon  ( talk ) 02:32, May 7, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Community Staff Page
Yes, I saw that. Will do so soon. Thanks for creating it! I've wanted to create something like that for a while now. Oh, and I just wanted to take a moment to ask if you can add a "hide" thing to all those templates with quotes. Like these ones: Template:Organization, Template:Not used Template, Template:Conjecture, Template:Incomplete. The ones on Wookieepedia have this. Oh, and I would like to let you know, I'm changing our policy to have article titles use sentence case. It's jsut easier and more wikis use it including Wikipedia. - lavamelon  ( talk ) 23:03, May 7, 2017 (UTC)

That's cool, but let's not refer to it as Staff, because that's confusing since the people in charge of this whole website are called Staff. Just user rights, or something like that.--

Dragon Nip Page
Can you delete the page Dragon Nip, please? I made it into a Tabber section, since the Dragon Nip from the Books versus Franchise are so different. Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:52, May 7, 2017 (UTC)

It looks great! - lavamelon  ( talk ) 12:41, May 8, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Small Character Dilemma
Sorry to ask again, but what NavBox should I use for Non-Human and Non-Dragon characters? We've got a few, for example, Phil and Willie the sheep, Chicken and Thawfest Hen the Chickens, Bjorn Boar, and I think there are a few minor other ones. Lady Brasa (  talk  )  02:52, May 9, 2017 (UTC)

Hey, just curious, what citations does the cat page need? I thought I referenced everything? What did I miss? Lady Brasa (  talk  )  10:51, May 10, 2017 (UTC)

Ahh okay. For those I actually just searched for "cat" on our wiki, so those are from our own pages. When I get off work tonight, I'll copy the references over! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  11:42, May 10, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, we could try it out.--

I am fine with that and I agree with you that the there is not enough manpower to carry out the project thing you wanted to do. I think having a user spotlight will encourage users to edit, and hopefully make good edits, and hopefully lead to the wiki getting closer to where we want it to be. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 18:25, May 11, 2017 (UTC)

I decided that using the quote template is not right for official descriptions. Also, didn't Annabeth lift the ban on internal references a while ago? Oh, and I've updated my most recent blog. - lavamelon  ( talk ) 00:08, May 12, 2017 (UTC)

Gallery organization
Hoped they'd be automatically added to the appropriate galleries if I categorized them as such. Bummer.

But I finished all of Toothless, and most of Hiccup. I'll finish Hiccup tomorrow as it'll require some reorganization of the galleries, and I'll do the other characters, too. It's 2am and I'm beat, lol. Hoping on finishing a transcript tomorrow, too. See you in 8ish hours. 😉

Dublyn~ (talk) 09:03, May 14, 2017 (UTC)

Crabs!
Hey, I started a page for Crab, but unfortunately, you or someone that plays Wild Skies is going to have to finish it with pics and flesh out the info. My computer and internet connection at home are not sufficient to play a Unity Game :( (I play SOD on my phone). Thanks! Lady Brasa  (  talk  )  16:31, May 14, 2017 (UTC)

Categorizing Pics
Hwy, just a question for clarification about adding categories to pics. I guess first question - how important is it? I have not been adding categories to any pics I've uploaded. Also, exactly what kind of categories ... ? I see that the video media usually has categories titles something like "Images for X episode" and then "Images for X major character". But what about images for minor characters or other media like the comics or games? Am I allowed to create categories? Is there some guidelines for what to create if so? Of should those other images just be categorized in the "Images" category? Or should ALL images be in "Images"? Sorry if I'm making this more complicated than it is! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  21:18, May 14, 2017 (UTC)

Should I go ahead and create Image categories for the comics and games? For example: "School of Dragon Images" or "The Serpent's Heir Images"? As always, thank you! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:36, May 14, 2017 (UTC)

The user spotlight page looks good. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 10:48, May 15, 2017 (UTC)

It looks awesome!--

Location in "A Grim Retreat"
So I was just taking screen shots of "A Grim Retreat", mostly for the Grimora so I can update that page. Got some other screen shots as well, especially for the island that the Grimora are located on. Maybe most people already figured this, but the island the grimora are on is most definitely not the Island of Friga, as the official RTTE map says (and it just doesn't make sense either since Viking ceremonies are held there). Someone got something wrong, either on the map or in the episode. I've got screen shots of the map that Astrid points to in the episode, and it is an island that is North of Dark Deep and between Wreck Reef and Dragon's Edge. Astrid also says its "located near by" to Dragon's Edge, and a few other tid-bits. This island astrid points to in the episode is not on the RTTE map. BUT, the RTTE Map is, you know, official info. How should this be approached on the Wiki? I guess make the discrepancies clear on the Island of Friga page, then make an entry on the Unnamed Islands page for the island shown in "A Grim Retreat"?

Whichever is best I'll work on it over the next few days, just not tonight! Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:16, May 18, 2017 (UTC)

So I am wondering why you created the category: Windshear gallery. There are no other gallery categories like that one. I want to know the reasoning behind character categories such as that one I listed above. Secondly, I do expect that more galleries for Windhear will be created so then it will reach enough pages to make the category make sense. The number I use to determine whether or not a category is needed, is 3, meaning that there has to be at least 3 pages that will fit in whatever category you are thinking of making for it to make sense to create that category. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 02:46, May 18, 2017 (UTC)

I just looked and saw that are other categories for galleries like the one you made for Windshear, such as the Category: Toothless (Franchise) gallery. I take my question back but you can answer it if you like. I have to wonder that if you are going to make such categories for the dragon characters, shouldn't you make those such categories for the human characters? HiccstridFan92 (talk) 02:52, May 18, 2017 (UTC)

I can help with that. I can work on making some of those categories, and I can start this afternoon. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 10:57, May 18, 2017 (UTC)

i am a little confused and don't exactly know what you mean by the first part of that last message you left on my wall. The second part I understand and can fix that. 11:21, May 18, 2017 (UTC)

But how exactly would one do what you are saying to do. I do know that you can add the default sort thing at the bottom of the page. But I am not exactly sure of how you want me to do what your asking. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 12:17, May 18, 2017 (UTC)

Got it. It will take some time to do that for every single gallery but in the end having the galleries sorted in each category they are in by something other than the G in gallery at the beginning of each of their names will look better than it looks now. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 13:24, May 18, 2017 (UTC)

Honey Bees Page
Can you change the page name to "Honey Bees (Franchise)"? It should probably be a tabbed page because bees (and their honey) are a prominent plot point in one of the Books, How to Break a Dragon's Heart.

As far as the Franchise page, do you have time to add some pics and info from Wild Skies?

Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:42, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

I was thinking specifically about categories, and categories for pages. One type of category I was thinking of doing was character categories such as. The point of a category like this is to put in on pages that relate to the character, such as their own page, the pages of their quotes, on the page of their dragon, any objects of theirs, their own galleries, and any other pages such as relationship pages and the galleries connected to them, of which Hiccup and Astrid are the only ones that have anything like that right now.The page with quotes about their relationship would be a part of that as well. As for the episode pages I know there are categories that are called "episodes focused on (Put Name of Character here)", and I was thinking since that they are there, maybe the type of categories I mentioned at the top of this message would not be put on those type of pages. I mean I don't feel like it is right to put categories such as on episode pages. One other thing about the character categories is that they could also be put on categories relating to them, like for would be added to. I feel like adding the character categories would be very helpful. I thought of this because the other wiki I have done a lot of editing on, but not too much recently has the type of category I am talking about and I really like those categories.HiccstridFan92 (talk) 03:02, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

Animal Infobox
Hey, I just realized that the info line |Known Individuals = in the Animal Infobox is not showing up. Am I doing something wrong?

Also, can you make it so the |Source = is useable for both Franchise and Books? Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:40, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

Oops about the Book thing. No "s". Sorry!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:12, May 22, 2017 (UTC)

Wait, so do you want the infobox to have a separate sub heading for known individuals? (see Yak or Chicken for example)

I meant its like a separate section within the infobox - but I see that's how it looks for the dragon species infoboxes, too, so I guess nevermind? Well, maybe can you put "Information" as a title/heading within the animal infobox, like it is with the dragon species infobox? Sorry for being difficult, it just looks, I don't know, unbalanced or something.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:41, May 22, 2017 (UTC)

Tell me about it! I've tried to do stuff on my iPhone. Its do-able, but a pain, especially copy/paste or flipping between screens!

Erhm, not sure if I changed it the way you are saying, but I tried something, and it appeared to have worked. BUT now it says " Template loop detected: Template:Animal Infobox " What does that mean and what did I do wrong?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:20, May 22, 2017 (UTC)

I mucked around again and the "template loop" is gone. Not exactly sure why, but its working now :) Thank you!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:33, May 22, 2017 (UTC)

Hey, I'm sorry about the useless edits, I've done. Please leave a message in my profile if you forgive me. Thank you. - Parisa

Thanks Wool. You're very kind. - Parisa

Image Dilemma
So I have a slight issue I'd like to ask you about - poor quality images. For curiosity and kind of for the Wiki, I purchased How to Train Your Dragon (game) and How to Train Your Dragon 2 (game) for the Nintendo DS and 3DS (I have a 3DS player). So far, last night I played HTTYD1 and apparently the DS version is quite rudimentary and poor quality. I guess all the better graphics and animation are on the Wii and 360 consoles! Also, I wanted to get screenshots for the Wiki, but can only do this by photographing the screen with my phone, which lessens quality even more. That said, this game has been out for 7 years, and so far very few people have added photos of this game to the Wiki. So far I've even come across a character that isn't mentioned on the Wiki, "Sluffnut Thorston". There may be others. So do I upload poor quality images, or have no images at all? I couldn't tell you if Sluffnut even appears in the other versions of this game ...? I guess I'll upload pics, and worse case, you can delete them later :( Thanks,

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:21, May 24, 2017 (UTC)

Of course, now that I just posted that, I did see Sluffnut mentioned on the House Thorston page, even with an awful pic! I think that's as good as it gets :(

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:25, May 24, 2017 (UTC)

Again, I'm sorry. I edited those useless, unnecessary things. I'm really sorry. It won't happen again. I'll try to fix my mistake. I'm really sorry! And..... I didn't understand one thing. What's wrong with those pictures that I uploaded. Please tell me. I'll try to fix it. And thank you. - Parisa

Wooly, I've removed the picture and uploaded it for a reason. When I was adding the picture, I've accidentally typed an useless name. So I removed that picture and uploaded it again. Because you told me not to add unnecessary names in the caption. I'm sorry. - 🐲Parisa🐲

Image Dilemma continued-
Good, cuz I just came across more characters last night - Wolflegs, Scablout, and a few more! Looks like there will be a ton of characters! As far as asking about screen-shotting with my phone - if you are referring to the DS game pics, I have. What I've uploaded so far (if I'm linking this right) can be seen at the top here: Special:ListFiles/Ladybrasa. Also I made a page for Sluffnut last night with the images. I attempted to edit contrast, saturation, sharpness, and such to make them look a teeny bit better ...

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  12:14, May 25, 2017 (UTC)

I was thinking that we should make a page where we compile the cast and crew's birthday, an in it have it ordered by month. When trying to update a cast or crew member's age it is tough to find out who has a birthday when and remember when the birthday's are for the cast and crew. It for one would be a page that could be used to help with remembering when the cast and crew birthday's are, and to help keep on top of updating the ages. It does not need to be like the birthday list is for community members. On the other wiki I am an admin on a cast and crew birthday's list was made and was put on the main page and updated every month. I am not saying we have to do that, but I do think we need to make a cast and crew birthday list. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 23:14, May 25, 2017 (UTC)

I know what you are talking about. I have seen such a thing used on wikipedia, which automatically updates the age of a person on their birthday each year. I think that that is a great idea, and would make so we would not have to update the ages ourselves. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 00:07, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

Made an Offspring Page ...
Hey, I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere you have a to-do list which included making separate pages for the Dragon Mates and Offspring? I just got Meatlug's Offspring, and had gotten a couple of screen shots, so just went ahead and made a page. If you have time, please look to see if that is what you were wanting. In particular, I'm not sure I filled out the ROB stat box right!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:59, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

Plants and Animals Pages Question
Logo8th and I were wondering if it would be okay for Wiki completeness or "too much" to add every plant and animal mentioned in the Franchise, for example the crops and animals on player farms in School of Dragons.

Also, you added "Scented Flowers" from Wild Skies to the Navbox to get a page - would it be okay to create a page just called "Flowers" and add "Scented Flowers" to it, or do you want it to have its own page? On a "Flowers"page, any small mentions of flowering plants such as the Azaleas in Book of Dragons, the Find a Flower thing recently in Rise of Berk, the flowering plants in SOD, etc etc could be added to that page. What do you think?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  02:41, May 28, 2017 (UTC)

I was thinking of doing that too, but during a specific event. I was thinking when the next movie came out, but that's too far from now. Let's wait until we know when the next season will be officially released.--

I agree with what Annabeth said about applying when we should apply for Spotlight. I think it is a great idea to apply for Spotlight. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 22:06, May 28, 2017 (UTC)

Expansion Areas in Rise of Berk
Hey, I see that we have just one page - Old Forest - for the expansions/section additions in Dragons: Rise of Berk that occur on Berk in the game. Other areas are: Brokkr's Hold, Darkened Green, Loki's Jest, Odin's Footprint, Freyja's Field, Thor's Shadow, Stonetooth Plain, and Dragonscale Cliff.

Are these areas something you would want added to our Wiki and have pages of their own? Or should we just delete the one, Old Forest, and mention the areas on the Dragons: Rise of Berk page?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:46, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

Additional Question - Which Navbox?
Sorry, one more question - which Navbox should we use on the Regatta page? Or any of the celebrations/events? Not that there is a lot! Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:09, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

Third Question - Book Dragons
Seems like I am going to inundate you with question tonight, sorry. Perhaps I should just title this message "Questions" ...

So I've started some updating the Book dragon Species pages. It will go very slowly, but I want to do this since I feel rather attached to them! They awful state of the info on those pages over a year ago was what led me to join the Wiki in the first place. I wanted you to take a look at the few I've updated so far, when you have time. I'd just like to know if they were structured as you like. I tried to shuffle the typically small amount of info around to better match the Dragon Species Example page. Also, many of the minimally-mentioned species do not have pics, so I tried out putting the HTTYD Book logo in the infobox. Here's ones that have been updated so far: Arsenic Adderwing, Basic Brown, Big Spotted Gormless, Bloody Crocoraptor, and Sticky Stealer (the latter was also edited by Dublyn recently, not just me).

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  02:13, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

And another ... Page for deletion
Can you please delete Thors'day Thursday? I made it into a tabbed page. I didn't even realize we had a page for it until Dublyn edited it!!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  03:10, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

One more this morning!! - Ship Navbox
Just wondering if the Ship Navbox is still the appropriate Navbox to use or is it defunct? I see many of the pages for ships use the Objects Navbox. Which is appropriate? Or perhaps both?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:32, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

Should we delete the Ships section out of the Objects Navbox to avoid confusion? Or link it to the Ships Navbox?

I can do it, I've already got it pulled up!

Sigh, and another ... Minor character category
So, when I have been adding categories to character pages, there is a "Minor Characters" and a "Minor characters". I have been selecting the former. I just figured out that "Minor Characters" doesn't actually have a category page created. So I am assuming all minor characters need to be categorized under "Minor characters"? Is there a way to change them all over, or to see which pages are using "Minor Characters", without creating the category page? Or should I go ahead and create it, change over the listed pages, and then you can delete it?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  16:20, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Hiccstrid responded in your stead and pointed out how to see the pages and then move them over. So now everything is in "Minor characters". I can certainly move those pages plus everything else back over ... I also prefer Title case (which is why I put them in the other "Minor Characters"), but thought we had to do things in Sentence case now ... ultimately I'm fine with whatever. Just let me know for sure, and I will move them all over to the title case category. It'll just take me some time, as its the start of a new work week now.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:43, June 6, 2017 (UTC)

So, I haven't started moving pages from "Minor characters" to "Minor Characters" yet. I'll probably wait till a day when I'm off the whole day. In the mean time, just to ask, can admins rename a category? (That's probably be too easy of a fix!). Or, once the pages are moved over, are you going to be able to delete "Minor characters"? Otherwise it will just keep showing up and people will continue to get mixed up (which is really easy for me!).

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:22, June 8, 2017 (UTC)

Oh well, thanks anyway. Like I said, I'll work on it when I have a large chunk of time (unfortunately that's not very often) to do so!

Re: Gallery Categories
Thank you for telling me that! I did not understand why you were doing it all the time. But now I do and I will follow you advice.

Httyd big fan (talk) 10:22, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

Hey there wools, It's me, ParisaReaz380, I just wanted to ask you a question. How to include the "(talk)" word, when leaving a message in other's profile? How do you use four tildes? I don't know how to use it. Please tell me. - 🐲Parisa🐲

Shadow Wing Template
Sorry to bother you, but you're the only one I know who can do this sort of thing. I was wondering if you could work on a tabber template, similar to the one we use to split information of characters or dragons in the books and franchise, for the Shadow Wing page. We currently have the species split into two pages, Small Shadow and Shadow Wing (Alpha Shadow). I was wondering if we could condense them into one page with a tabber template for Small Shadow and Alpha Shadow. Would it be possible for you to make this template? Lo g o   Dra go n Cre ator      16:31, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

Comic Page Copyrights
Hey, I think at one point you mentioned you were going to check into any copyright issues with posting whole pages of comics (or books). Were you able to find anything out? Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:05, June 9, 2017 (UTC)

Please Delete ...
Can you delete Viking longship please? I created tabbed pages for it. Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:24, June 11, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks to Logo8th, we were able to knock out transferring "Minor characters" to "Minor Characters". Can you delete ASAP to avoid any further confusion? Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  16:06, June 11, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Copyright and Praxy Issues
That sounds fine. The only caveat is the words in some of the comic images are important, as they name people, places, or things. Such as objects, places from the comics, and mentioned characters.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:53, June 11, 2017 (UTC)

(Sorry on my phone) I think whole pages distributed by the company (sneak peaks and such) are fine, but not otherwise. I think single panels with minimal text is okay, but not excessively. I just poked around - only a little - at other comic wiki as and they had images of panels (meaning like single frames) with text, butidid notice there wasn't large numbers of images like we have here. Also, I think some of our images fall under "fair use" as we are here for informational purposes, research in a way, archiving info and such. We ar by using them to make money or for the purposes of distribution.  So I think the text, at least if relevant to the subject for information purposes, and in a single panel/frame is okay. There isn't anyway we are claiming the work as our own or making money from that.

However whole pages, especially in large number, not released by the creator company wouldn't be okay because that could impact their sales.

Anyway, my two cents!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:01, June 12, 2017 (UTC)

I'm working most of the day tomorrow, so probably not. Any time today could be fine.--

I was not available today during the time frame you were available. I will be available from 1:00 to 2:30 AM (UTC) of the time frame you specified.HiccstridFan92 (talk) 16:28, June 13, 2017 (UTC)

I am currently on chat, waiting for you to come back so we can talk about which user to spotlight starting on Thursday. I will not be on chat too much longer tonight, so it be nice if you come back in to chat soon. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 01:55, June 14, 2017 (UTC)

I was looking through the menus up top and noticed that the extra menus we created, which was essentially an extra level, no longer work. One example of the extra menus I am talking about is under the media tab, in the menu for TV series, there had been an extra menu listing all the seasons of RTTE in it's own menu which is found by hovering over the words Race to the Edge. I am not sure what we can do about this problem, or whether there is way to get that working again, but I am thinking we need to fix the naviagation bar menus. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 02:24, June 14, 2017 (UTC)

You completely ignored that it was an example of the problem. There are other places where the extra menu does not work either, and those have to be dealt with too, especially under the misc. tab, where under each choice such as objects, there are two choices which both lead to an extra menu that popped up. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 10:26, June 14, 2017 (UTC)

I have a noticed a new category being added to a lot of pages the last couple of days. The category is Category:How to Train Your Dragon Franchise. The category page has not been created through. I just want to say that I think the category is redundant and unnecessary. I just want to say it adds to the big bunch of categories at the bottom of pages. What do you think about that new category I listed above. Whatever you say I am fine with, and I just though I get another admins opinion about this category. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 12:27, June 16, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Congratulations
Thank you! Thanks to whomever nominated me :) Just wondering: is there a way to shift the badge to the left or right of my profile page and have text go around it? Kind of like an infobox or something? Thanks! Lady Brasa  (  talk  )  15:24, June 16, 2017 (UTC)

That works! Thank you!

Please delete
Can you please delete ROB-CalderaCay6-12-17.PNG? I uploaded the unedited version, and someone else already uploaded the image anyway. Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:33, June 17, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for wishing me a happy birthday yesterday. (Mia Pacota (talk) 12:28, June 22, 2017 (UTC))

Hey, quick question about this edit of yours last week. You added a user named Jouju to Staff. Who is that user and why did you add him?--

You spelt his name wrong, that's why I couldn't find his profile the first time. It's Juoju. A very inactive user, no reason for him to continue to have the rights, so I've removed them know.--

Please Delete ...
Hey, can you delete these two images? I uploaded them with the wrong names!

Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:59, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

Actually I have another item to delete - can you delete the redirect from Buckthorn to Buckthorn Root? Since Buckthorn is the plant and the root is a part that is used, I'd rather the page be listed as "Buckthorn", to keep in line with the other plant pages. I tried and nothing happened :(

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  16:49, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

I think I have worded the above request incorrectly - I would like the page to be titled "Buckthorn", NOT "Buckthorn Root". I'm not sure if I messed it up or not, but currently "Buckthorn" isn't coming up at all :(

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:25, July 10, 2017 (UTC)

User spotlight
Since I have not seen anything from you yet about deciding which user will be featured in user highlights from July 15th to August 15th, I thought I would remind you so we can get on this and discuss who to feature. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 22:17, July 13, 2017 (UTC)

I believe it would be easier on chat. With three people having to talk about it (Annabeth, you and me), chat is way easier than using talk pages. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 12:46, July 14, 2017 (UTC)

I am available right now. And will be for the next couple of hours.HiccstridFan92 (talk) 00:08, July 15, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Featured User
Thank you so much for the nomination. It really means a lot to me that the wikia takes such pride in my contributions. Glad to be of service! Hopefuly, I can continue to be of great use to the wikia into the future. Lo g o   Dra go n Cre ator      04:45, July 15, 2017 (UTC)

Fire Weed
Hey, I started a page for Fire Weed. Would you and/or Logo8th be able to flesh out the page and add pics, since it is a DreamWorks Dragons: Wild Skies plant?

Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:18, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that! Would you also be able to put something in the "Scented Flowers" section of the Flower page? Lady Brasa (  talk  )  02:39, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

Usage of Screenshots with Captions
Just wanted to ask if it would be okay to use screenshots with captions for certain pages, specifically those about people, places, life forms, or objects that are mentioned but not seen in the Franchise. This way, the mentions would be documented and those pages would have at least one image. All pages should have at least one image, I think. I edited Hedgelout Jorgenson as an example. Please let me know what you think.

Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:59, July 18, 2017 (UTC)

Duly noted! Can you delete this image? SnotloutGetsTheAxe-Boars1.PNG This is an unnecessary captioned image I uploaded. Thank you! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:28, July 19, 2017 (UTC)

Bread Page?
Hey again, another user asked about creating a "Bread" page. Is processed food something you want to get into on this Wiki? If we have a bread page, that could potentially be expanded to a "Foods" category or section. Certainly there would be a lot of overlap with plants and animals of course. Alternatively, we could have a "wheat" page under the plants and apply bread images there, since the various loaves of bread look like wheat bread (as opposed to rye or other grain). Or maybe just a "Grains" page. What are your thoughts?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  18:23, July 22, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the input! Actually, this morning I played an SOD quest - I think "Batten Down the Hatches"? - and it discussed "grains". So a Grains page would be good!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:15, July 23, 2017 (UTC)

No Potato!
Hey, I just make Potato into tabbers. Can you delete Potato, please? Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  13:55, July 24, 2017 (UTC)