Talk:Berserker Bewilderbeast/@comment-29783459-20190501132953/@comment-31135394-20190501145037

No. The continuity errors and inconsistencies in RttE really messed with the timeline. That's a big reason why so many of us don't consider it canon. I fear we'll never be rid of this Bewilderbeast debate. But according to what we already knew before RttE-


 * Quote from HTTYD2- "Oh, Cloudjumper never meant to harm me. I guess he thought I belonged here; in the home of the great Bewilderbeast!" Valka's lived with her Bewilderbeast for 20 years. It is NOT the Dragon that would have hatched from the egg in RttE.


 * Valka's mask is designed after her Bewilderbeast's head. This is confirmed in the Art Of HTTYD2 book which came out BEFORE RttE Season 6. And she's wearing it when she picks up the egg. If her Bewilderbeast hadn't hatched yet, she wouldn't have that mask.


 * Drago had been "training" and abusing his Bewilderbeast since it was a hatchling. This is confirmed in the Dragonpedia on the official HTTYD website, which was published BEFORE RttE Season 6. So it is NOT the Berserker Bewilderbeast.


 * Torch and Garff are no where near as big as a Bewilderbeast, so they would reach adult size quicker than a Bewilderbeast would. So even if you ignore the points above, it just doesn't work in the short amount of time between the events of RttE Season 6, and the start of the events of HTTYD2.


 * The amount of time between the end of RttE and the start of HTTYD2 isn't confirmed, but it was definitely less than a year. For instance, Astrid learns about Fishlegs and Snotlout's rivalry over Ruff in HTTYD2. With what we know about the Riders and their friendships, it's just not sensible that a whole year would go by without her ever noticing that. It was probably somewhere from a few weeks to a month.

So to sum up, neither the Berserker Bewilderbeast or the dragon that hatched from its egg are seen AT ALL in HTTYD2. If we want to think of RttE Season 6 as canon at all, the egg (or the dragon that hatched from it) could have been in Valka's mountain when she found Hiccup. But it was never seen or referenced. And the Berserker Bewilderbeast is a separate third individual from Valka's and Drago's.

Yes, the creators of RttE probably intended for the egg to be Valka's Bewilderbeast. That was a sloppy mistake of theirs. They only focused on staying true to the main story of the movies, but didn't bother to pay attention to such details like that quote that Valka said or the Art of HTTYD2 book or the Dragonpedia. But the movies and official site are always going to be more canon than RttE, and so we should stick with what info the movies confirmed rather than starting to believe the inconsistencies of RttE.