User talk:Manga Maniac/Archive 1

Welcome
Hi, welcome to How to Train your Dragon Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Snotlout Jorgenson page.

If you need help, and there are no local admins here, you may want to visit the forums on the Community Central Wiki -- Xean (Talk) 16:48, April 3, 2010

Page spacing
Not warnin you, but I'd like you to read this so you can see what to remove if you find any, and the punishment you can give if you catch users doing this. :P -- Dragonfree  15:57, April 27, 2010 (UTC

Congratulations
Congratulations with being an Admin. You deserve it :) --Station7 05:51, April 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Couldn't agree with you more there, pal. J/k ;D Manga Maniac 20:46, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Fan Characters
Hey there, you took care of the fan characters before. Well someone's at it again. Now Camicazi has a stepmother whose probably going to get a name and page soon. Just a heads up in the interest of having a generally accurate wiki.
 * Thank you mysterious person who I don't know who is due to not signing the comment. Srsly >.> J/k. Anyway thank you for informing me of this, I have removed the stepmother parts from Camicazi (due to the fact that, in my own words, "FAN CHARACTERS MUST DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"). If the article is created I shall delete it. Manga Maniac 20:45, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Somone created spam
it is called OOmble, destroy the perpertrator XD jk you might want to give him a warning though. Spoonodeath 21:24, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

whats up
whats up! I AM NOT REAPEAT NOT A COMMEN OR GARDEN DRAGON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 * Yes. Yes you are. So there. Manga Maniac 09:03, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

New featured article
Actually we should need a new featured article, don't you think? --Station7 05:42, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

You have a good taste. All 3 are perfect, but it should be one :( Maybe we should discuss to with User:Dragonfree97.--Station7 10:57, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Since Dragonfree97 is possibly not very much online, and since we're Bureaucrats, which one do you want now on the Main Page?--Station7 19:21, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

HankHawk's Articles
So, the articles I wrote are still part of the wiki? Especially the one on educational use and the soundtrack related articles? Or are they now available only to me? All my articles took great time and effort for me to write. They are not jokes but serious works.

On Youtube, several people have posted recordings of the soundtrack. I have contributed many posts, some admittedly controversial. I have speculated that Toothless may be a female and that he/she may be telepathic. One person posted the entire soundtrack to Youtube, cut by cut, but all the cuts disappeared one day, along with several weeks of my postings. Another person has posted some of the cuts from the soundtrack and these are still up, along with my postings, but for how long?

It would seem that most of your articles just mimic what was written by Cressida Cowell or written on the official web site. Am I the only one contributing original content? I title some of my articles "speculation" but the whole wiki could be considered speculation since dragons don't actually exist in the real world. The only articles that would be non-speculation would be about the author and her books and life, the actors, the production, the premiers, interviews, boxoffice figures, like that. Any and all articles on the characters as real people or dragons as living creatures would be speculation.

HankHawke 13:46, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

HankHawk's Articles: Why do only some redirect
I have noticed that if I search the wiki for my articles, even by their true name, only some will redirect to their new location. Is this deliberate censorship?

Let me give you an example of the way I think. On the soundtrack pages that I posted articles to, we speculated on sequels. Don't ask for urls as the whole series of cuts for the whole soundtrack were purged for some reason and all the postings lost. Another person has posted a limited number of cuts to the soundtrack since. Some suggested to base a sequel on the books and make it about pirates, but I think differently. I gave a possible plot for a sequel as the following:

Sequel Suggestion: Word of the Berk-Dragon Alliance has spread. People who feared mere flesh and blood Vikings now are terrified that this alliance will make them the ultimate power on Earth. The English, German and French Kings put aside their differences and decide on an alliance of their own--to exterminate Berk and as many of the dragons as possible. The son of the English King stows away in a supply ship and goes with them to Greenland near the Island of Berk. He is discovered but it is too late to return him, so he is guarded but runs off into the countryside. Some of the English forces search for him, but the others insist that preparations for the assault on Berk go on. The son of the English King, Arthur, is lost in the woods and hears wolves howling. He runs in terror, stumbling over logs and making a lot of noise. This rucus attracts the attention of a mob of Berk Terrible Terrors which swoop down at the last second as the wolf pack is about to pounce Arthur. The wolves are chased away after a battle that results in one of the Terrors being killed. Arthur buries the Terror and puts up a marker, a very sad scene. The Terrors keep Arthur company, find fish for him to eat, snuggle up to him to keep him warm at night, use their fiery breath to make a fire. Arthur rubbed against sealing tar on the supply ship and the Terrors lead him back to his folks by following the scent of tar. Along the way, Arthur looses a medallion that a Terror eventually finds. Arthur tells his father of how the small dragons came to his aid, but is not believed. Just before the final battle, a small group of Terrors return Arthur's medallion and now his father belives him. The battle is avoided and a peace treaty signed. They make a special ceremonial shield showing a Berk Viking on one side and a Camelot Knight on the other shaking or holding hands. In the last scene, Arthur finds the burial place of the Terror and puts his medallion over the marker.

I do not hesitate to mix legends for a good story.

HankHawke 15:22, May 23, 2010 (UTC)

Dragons
Do not have names in the movies.

I don't think there's a problem with saying Snotlout's dragon's name, but Astrid's Nadder

A) does not have a name

B) was not voted for a name via "her blog"

C) does not have a known gender.

Also there's a lot in the way of fan theories and articles out there, especially concerning dragons.

I understand that you cannot block every unregistered user but surely there should be some penalty for users like HankHawke who feel the need to post speculation instead of fact.

This is supposed to be a source for accurate information on the book/movies, not outlandish speculation and/or fan characters. I understand that the dragon was named via the blog on this website but that is also fan speculation, it does not make it cannon that Astrid has a male Nadder named Spikewing.

If this website is based around fan speculation and not cannon material, it should be made very clear on the front page so that those of us who would like to have access to accurate cannon information will know to go to a website able to provide us with that.


 * Comment signed. Also I hope you know if I blocked every unreg'd user I'd block you too in the process :P If you find any details that are uncannon, please do not hesititate to tell me or any other admin. Manga Maniac 09:40, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Article on Tack moved to User Gulag in the middle of an edit with loss of data.
Someone moved my article on Tack while I was in the middle of an edit and several paragraphs of data was lost. Please apologize, recover my lost data and discipline the person who did this.

HankHawke 17:22, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Ready to leave or stay, its up to you.
I have copied all my articles over to my system. If you wish me to stay and continue to write articles, you will have to apologize to me by a public message that all can see. You will make sure the apology remains at the top of the message/article que in the column to the left of the web page for at least two weeks and also e-mail every contributor. You will have to apologize for mistreating me, for trying to censor my articles, and for your bad attitude. I will stay only if I think your apology is sincere and placates me enough. Otherwise, you can go to hell and be sure to purge everything pertaining to me from your useless, worthless, sorry excuse for a web site.

HankHawke 21:25, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Iloveastrid
It looks like she has left the Wiki. She contacted to us. Just like another nice user I know. Also Dragonfree97 hasn't been really active. I'm bust, but still active :)--Station7 18:03, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean with that? We're not going to remove every article! Also I agree how you did to this user,HankHawke, he never learns anything from it. He can hate you, but I agree with you.--Station7 14:35, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

That's great. I think we're the only Sysops left. --Station7 13:43, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it's fine if you remove my admin status. I've been following the wiki and watching some of the changes, but I decided once school started again that I didn't really have time to take a leadership role in improving the wiki. I may return to post more once I get the DVD :) Iloveastrid 05:16, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Also, I guess I'll keep my bureaucrat status? I'm not going to do anything or get involved with edit wars, but I don't think you can remove bureaucrat status. I don't really see any reason why that should be a problem. Also, I'm a guy. Iloveastrid 05:32, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

User rights discussion and history from Sysops
Should we take the user rights from Iloveastrid and Dragonfree97, however it's better if we take the rights from her. We should discuss with Dragonfree97 about his rights, also we should make a history place for the Sysops :) --Station7 13:40, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Iloveastrid's we can take them since we're bureaucrats my friend also from Dragonfree97. But I think it's better to do discuss with Dragonfree97 what is his meaning. Also Manga Maniac, founders always can go and give other people Sysop rights while they are leaving. but it's better to do discuss with him, don't you think?--Station7 15:11, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

That's right, then we stole the Wiki. If he wants it, then we're taken over the whole Wiki (without adoption). I like the guy, but he's not much online here. --Station7 15:18, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Good idea. And if he ask why, we will tell. --Station7 15:34, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

We should remove his Sysop rights. --Station7 16:14, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

And what is now happened between you and Dragonfree97? --Station7 14:05, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Also Dragonfree97 looks very angry, but 1. He is never online. 2. Taken over a Wiki is normal and 3. We all mean this good, but he's very angry at us.--Station7 14:09, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

It also looks like he wants to leave, that wasn't what we want him to do. I think that we could have future plans for this Wiki. Not to hurt him, but I think he never had a future plan for this Wiki. I'm never busy, o I come and go on every Wiki where I want to come. What is your plan now? I'm confused about this! Your meaning is important to. Quinny898 is never online here.--Station7 14:20, July 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * He's never online on any wiki tbh... -- Dragonfree

User Rights
Would you mind not unadmiseing the rights of the original creators. They should keep their rights, even though they might not be on the wikia much. I will now re adminise myself, because I should not have had it removed it in the first place. If you do this again, I may consider banning you infinately. --Quinny898 12:33 uk time

There's a fatal flaw in your logic Kieron: Even if you were to permablock (i do believe that isnt mine) & demote them then they could just promote themselves (you cant remove bc status) and unblock themselves. -- Dragonfree

Thanks for the news :) --Station7 17:14, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Where are you?
Where are you? I hope you didn't leave. You can always post a message when you're on vacation.--Station7 21:02, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

I'm the only one who says this, but good luck. We will hear from each other for a lot of days not.--Station7 21:12, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

How you mean that?--Station7 21:16, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Dragons
yay, at last I've found an administrator! Just wanted to say that in the dragons category there are many dragons (e.g. Rammer-Dolphin, Gorgenghast), that I do not believe exist. I have read all the books and have never found mention of the dragons listed above, or a lot of others for that matter. So could you please delete these false pages. (Unless it can be proved they are real).

Toothless99

The Beast (Dragon)
On How To Train Your Dragon Wiki there is a page titled 'The Beast'. It says it is only seen in 'How To Break A Dragon's Heart', and since it also says it is probably a Seadragonus Giganticus Maximus, I think they are talking about Furious. Can you please retitle this page, or have a new one titled 'Furious' created. (and deleting 'The Beast')

Toothless99

at 13:35, August 2nd 2010


 * Thank you for doing this Toothless99 14:51, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Vikka Hofferson
I know I've been talking here a lot recently, but an Unregistered Contributer has made a page called 'Vikka Hofferson', apparently she's in the sequel, but the sequel isn't even out yet. I'm wondering if she's someone's made-up character? If so, can you please delete it.

And also, I made a page 'Winkles', and now it is in the Possible Hoaxes category, but I know it's not a hoax - there are winkles in How to Break A Dragon's Heart.

Toothless99 06:04, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Iloveatrid
I'm fine with that. He/she isn't online anymore.--Station7 21:19, August 20, 2010 (UTC)