User talk:Tauriel the Elf

Re: Small Note
Oh, I'm sorry, I had no idea. Thanks for notifying me of this change. Lo g o   Dra go n Cre ator      13:20, February 3, 2018 (UTC)

Done! HiccstridFan92 (talk) 14:15, February 3, 2018 (UTC)

WHAT I SAID WANST OFFENCES--Signature 08:40, February 5, 2018 (UTC)

Yaoundé are very rude to me idk why bit toys are to very meanie so please stop lol syou you need to stop now! You big meanie I

You ARNT very nice to me please stop

If I were an admin you would get ban If I were a hacker I would hack u away If I were a deadly madder I would

FIRE! YOU!

YEAAAAHHHHHHHH!

(Get it u would be fired from ur job lol) --Signature 09:13, February 5, 2018 (UTC)

Thank Odin!
Doesn't appear he harassed you anymore since I left. Glad to hear he's gone. What a trip! Back to our regularly scheduled program, then. 😊

🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 18:51, February 5, 2018 (UTC)

Urgenta
''TE rog spune-mi cu ce sa ajut caci mi-e greu sa pun imagini ca sa multumesc pe toti... Intreba-i SI PE CEILALTI UTILIZATORI EVENTUALYoungtrainer (talk) 12:34, February 10, 2018 (UTC)''

Raspuns pt ceilalti Admini
Imi pare rau ca ei nu vad in acelasi fel ca mine sensul de captare a momentelor si crede-ma ca mult s-a dezvoltat acest Wiki de cand am adaugat eu imagini dar si eu duc lipsa de unele chestii asa ca te rog sa ma lase sa pun liber Imagini in continuare. Pe mine ma ipulsioneaza sa vad faptul ca alte site-uri similare folosesc acm imaginile mele. Iti mai amintesti la inceput cand luam imagini preluate dv lOe la polonezi?? EI BINE DE 2 DE CAND M-AM LOGAT S-A SCHIMBAT PLACA SI ACUM EI FOLOSESC CONTINUTUL MEU... Dar spune-le ca nu zic aceste lucruri cu rautate si as vrea si eu un loc in echipa de admini desigur nu ca mavoi ocupa eu permanent de editari sau etc. Vreau sa fie mai deschisi la continut, desi inteleg ca dureaza sa aranjezi imaginile in funstie de episod,personaje si alte aspecte. Si vezi care e mai conservator? EU vreau cat profit de timpul liber sa postez continut pt noile specii, si zi-le ca voi respecta acest pact de a nu pune prea multe imagine deodata pt noul sezon...... Dar sa ma lase pe mine sa pun imaginile deoarece eu vreau sa-mi rezerv acea parte. Si inca ceva sa ma contacteze dintre voi cei care sunt dispusi sa colboreze cu mine sa scrie pe mesaje caci as dori mai multe colaboarari ca a noastra chiar daca esti singurul/a care stie cum sa abordeze lucrurile in privinta cu restul sunt cam distant. Spune-le ca atat timp cat va exista serialul eu nu am voi opri din postat imagini dar vreau acordul lor sa ma pot misca in voie. Cu drag Youngtrainer (talk) 16:17, February 10, 2018 (UTC)

Multumesc sper ca n-u e presez prea mult cerandu-ti aceasta favoare.Youngtrainer (talk) 17:24, February 10, 2018 (UTC)

Hey. I recently created a page called Popcorn, as in what Snotlout invented in Sins of the Past, RTTE. You've taken the page down. May I ask why? I realise it wasn't exactly complete, but is there another reason? AWESOME512345 (talk) 12:40, February 11, 2018 (UTC)

I just checked the terror mail. Sorry ignore my earlier comment.AWESOME512345 (talk) 12:41, February 11, 2018 (UTC)

Re: New Template
No, I hadn't seen that template. I think its fine, as long as it adds a category to the page like the stub template does. That way we can find the pages that need it easier. Though, what is wrong with the stub template? Is it not specific enough?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:27, February 13, 2018 (UTC)

Your opinion :)
Hi.:) As you can see in recent activity there is a bit of a "conflict" going between me and a user. I was wondering if you think we should stick to the way HiccstridFan92 did the season 5 page or listen to this user. I personally think it looks messy like this and only the trailer should be on there. There are going to be at least 6 clips released for this season and I think it's better to have them posted in the gallery. What do you think? --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 13:22, February 14, 2018 (UTC)

It is fine if Youngtrainer uploads most of the pictures. Of course I will still upload the title card pictures myself, plus I will upload some Hiccstid pictures from the new season like I usually do. Other than that, I don't upload pictures, so there will really not be an overlap with me.

On another note, I am not forcing him to do this, but when it comes to doing JPGs vs PNGs, JPGs are better for pictures without words, and PNGs are better for pictures with a lot of words, so for the pictures for the episodes, so if possible he should upload them as JPGs instead of PNGs. Years ago I uploaded a couple of pictures onto another wiki in the PNG format, and was told to upload pictures as JPGs instead. I did so, and even replaced the pictures I had uploaded as PNGs, with a new JPG version. Of course I am only talking about wanting him to upload them as JPGs for this season, as there is no need to replace the pictures from past seasons being that there are too many to replace, and that has nothing to do with the excessive uploads, just the fact that there are a lot of episodes for which pictures were uploaded by him in the PNG format. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 15:23, February 14, 2018 (UTC)

I see what you mean and I totally agree that it would be more convenient with larger intervals between the article changes. I don't see a problem with that. https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  14:19, February 15, 2018 (UTC)

Just a Question about Page Formats
Can you check the formatting of Heather and Windshear's Relationship? I worked on this stub a while back, but I don't know if it was in the correct format. I was going to follow the lines of the Hiccup and Toothless page, but that relationship was in multiple parts of the universe, so was organised likewise.

If this format of Relationship page is correct I will get around to do this in other relationship article stubs.

Thanks AWESOME512345 (talk) 07:34, February 17, 2018 (UTC)

Done. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 12:46, February 18, 2018 (UTC)

Simultaneously working pn pages ...
Hey, it looks like you are working on pages at the same time I am, as I just went to publish a page for Willow but you had done it instead. Please let me take care of the images I upload, since I am currently online to take care of them. I'd appreciate it! If I leave images on my profile page, I probably am not actively working on them or had to stop (like go to work, sleep or whatever) and I don't mind if you insert those images or crate pages or whatnot. Thanks!

Since we both put in efforts for the Willow page, I will amend it to include both our writings (I have copy/pasted it just in case ...)

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  18:38, February 18, 2018 (UTC)

PS. Interestingly we both were thinking the same ... I started the "Description" section with "Willow refers to some 400 species of trees and shrubs comprising the Genus Salix. " very similar to yours! :)

Yes, I think we all have the same ideas. For myself, I have gone through and watched Season 6 once, and am now trying to go back through and pick out things and take screen shots. My focus is pulling out all the bits about plants, animals, minor/mentioned characters, objects and other things that are not usually the focus for most people. Most people will focus on the main characters and dragons (as they already are, pretty much or will be soon).

That said, as much as other people focus on the main characters and such, there is still a lack of, missing, or unclear info for them such as in the Biographies and so on and that needs to be worked on too!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  19:09, February 18, 2018 (UTC)

Opinions Needed ...
So I have thought of (and forgotten) about a few things regarding pages to create (or not) that I'd like your opinion on. As I remember I'll put them here!


 * 1) Should we create a page for the third, unnamed trader that appeared in No Bark, All Bite?
 * 2) Do you think Air Mail should be renamed "Terror Mail"? I think that's what most people know it as. Also, would Air/Terror mail be an object, event/practice, or character? Something else?
 * 3) Oswald's Diary - should this be changed to something like "Oswald's Papers" or "Oswald's Writings"? Apparently Oswald wrote a lot more than just the diary. Or should those be something separate?

For the moment, comments are on the Diary page, but as you say, the Dragon Manual and Bork's papers are separate pages .. hmmm, I'll think on it, but not a priority.

4. A big one ... the Unnamed Islands page, I think, is getting way too large and shifted (like the text with the infoboxes are getting misaligned). Do you have any ideas about a formatting that would keep the boxes with the appropriate info, or perhaps should we split the page up? If so, how? The RttE places form the bulk of the page, and there's only more to add from Season 6.

Will do. Yeah, I think the headers should be kept, but the text and infobox sometimes don't line up. Or may be it works/appears differently depending on the browser and screen size each person uses to view it? I'm not sure ...

5. In "A Gruff Separation", Tuffnut is training chicks on an obstacle course. At one point he says "Hey! Keep your knees up! That's it, little chick-ly." Do you think this is a name for one of the chicks (i.e. needs a page) or some sort of general term? If so, I'm not sure what it would be. Also the subtitles don't capitalize 'chick-ly'.

6. Do you suppose the islands the Twins visited for the Induction Trials are Speed Stinger Island and Changewing Island? Can you think of any way to prove that? I don't remember them mentioning it specifically. Or any other times Speed Stingers appeared for that matter ... I might also ask Hiccstrid about this one.

7. Should we make a page for Grass? It's everywhere, but Mala specidically mentions grass when describing the symbolic meaning of the "Dance of Blades".

Oh, yes, that's a good point about there being a page for moss! I think I will make a grass page. Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  19:24, February 18, 2018 (UTC)

Comments
You Are A Jerk To My Friend! Please Apologize To Shapeshifte!

You Are A Bully! --Katherine The Braver 08:37, February 19, 2018 (UTC)

Can you

Please say

That you

Are sorry

And realize

What you

Have done!

My friend

Might not

Commit suicide

If you

Make a

Dragon fight

That is

Stormfly vs baby stormfly

Stormfly vs a dragon egg

Stormfly vs a dead dragon

Stormfly vs a shield

Stormfly vs an and

(You have to chose two of thease, talk to me or shapeshifter for any questions) --http://howtotrainyourdragon.wikia.com/wiki/User:KatherineTheBrave 08:41, February 19, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry the last one was stormfly vs an ant

--http://howtotrainyourdragon.wikia.com/wiki/User:KatherineTheBrave 08:41, February 19, 2018 (UTC)

There's no reason to italicize the names of headings, and I specifically said to use sentence case for headings in the Manual of Style. I also put that last sentence under "Legacy" for a reason. - lavamelon  ( talk ) 23:20, February 20, 2018 (UTC)

I just want to let you know that Youngtrainer is back at it. He uploaded pictures today, and again he uploaded in excess. It bothers me that he keeps doing this, after we told him to stop. Also, what really put me over the top is that between a couple of days this month he uploaded 129 some pictures from the trailer for season 6, alone. That alone is excessive for a two minute trailer. I don't think we should be even taking pictures from the trailer, mainly because of the watermark that is the top right corner. His excessive uploading is driving me to the edge, and really I can't trust him if he says he would cut down on pictures, but later still uploads as many pictures as before. His massive uploading, also makes it hard to go through the wiki activity and even makes stuff fall off. It is much harder to look through the recent changes page than it is to look through the recent wiki activity page, simply because the recent changes, only show what was done and how much was added or subtracted into what section, and reasons, but in such a way that is harder to go through, while recent activity shows what section a person edited, what pictures were added, an edit summary if one is put, and it is put in such a way that is very easy to read, and much quicker to go through than recent changes. Thus, with Youngtrainer uploading excessive pictures, it makes going through the recent changes on the wiki a lot harder, particularly on days where I get up later and he has already uploaded a bunch of pictures, and thus caused a cutoff at some point for edits thus keeping me from being able to go through all the recent wiki activity in an efficient manner, and thus having to go to the recent changes page to see what changes happened in the last how many ever hours since I last had been on the wiki the night before. While I know Youngtrainer is only able to upload pictures, I can't allow him to continue to upload excessive amounts of pictures. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 18:25, February 22, 2018 (UTC)

Not sure exactly what to do, but at some point we need to take the time to trim down the pictures. Should be plenty of time to do so, what with the only thing left to come out this year is Dragonvine, as well as it being just over a year before the third film is released. Of course there will be teaser trailers, the official trailer, and clips later on this year, but again uploading said clips to wiki is all that that requires, leaving minimal stuff to add, and more time for fixing up this wiki. Maybe you could message Youngtrainer, and give him a warning. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 18:45, February 22, 2018 (UTC)

I agree that the articles should be changed every three months. I also agree that Dragons: Race to the Edge, Season 6 should be the featured other. Not sure what else should be featured. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 12:56, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

Space coding on the Unnamed Island pages
Hey, I notice that you sometimes remove the  tags from the Unnamed Islands pages. I know they aren't ideal, but without them, the infoboxes, text, and headings, get all out of line. Does it appear like that for you on your computer and browser? I don't know of any other coding to add to straighten it up except the. I suppose I could tinker around with tables or blank images? Any ideas?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  13:20, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for checking it out. I will try to get some other images, but a few of the locations are only briefly seen. If I can't, I might create blank transparent images to act as placeholders, but shouldn't show up to a viewer of the page.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  13:56, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

‎Re: Featured Articles
Sounds good. To celebrate the final season, I suggest featured character should be Viggo Grimborn or Johann, and maybe the dragon species could be a Dramillion or a Bewilderbeast.

 AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 13:53, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

I don't have ideas. I like the Season 6 choice.--

Re: Featured Articles
Hi Tauriel,

I agree 100% about the seasonal decision rather than monthly. We can't seem to stay consistent with featured articles (or featured users), and changing them seasonally would be more achievable than monthly.

I also agree with Alexa's choices. My personal picks would be Johann and the Dramillion. And yes, RttE S6 as featured "Other".

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 17:05, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

I am fine with the Viggo Grimborn and Dramillion pages, being the next featured pages. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 18:03, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

I agree. Dramillion definitely. --

Re:Featured Articles - Spring 2018
Sure thing! Thanks for keeping featured articles going and informing me! --https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  11:09, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

I just noticed these comments above. It would be very interesting as to how this would be done. Featured Articles was a retired feature on another established community that I administrate, and it would be nice to see it again. Cheetawolfnitrotyper (talk) 13:27, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

Delete this broken redirect
Fourth Chief of Berk Cheetawolfnitrotyper (talk) 17:49, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Space Coding on Unnamed Islands Pages
So I uploaded a blank image to see if that could help with spacing on the Unnamed Islands pages. I applied it to Unnamed Islands / Dragons: Race to the Edge Season 4-6. Can you take a look and see what it looks like for you, when you have a second? I think it works for spacing, but it might not work because there is an empty box. My intent was not to see anything because the image is transparent ...

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:59, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah. I only have one more thing to try, the code with the transparent image. Then I don't have any other ideas, either :(

Actually, that may have worked??? Can you see what it looks like in your view, when you have a sec? Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  17:18, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

Hmmm. So I set the pixel size to 350px, I think. Would you have time to adjust the size to see what works for you? Then I can look and see if that size works for my view, too. If you have time of course! Thank you!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  17:42, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

Winged Spear
I just started a page - finally - for the Winged Spear in SOD, for whenever you are able to add more info!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  18:14, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

Please explain why you undid my edit. Cheetawolfnitrotyper (talk) 19:20, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Some Weapon Pages
I don't see why not? Especially since Viggo is a popular character. We have pages for characters and objects with less information than appearing in two or more episodes. I'll see what I can get, picture-wise. Do you recall any specific episodes that had good views of Johann's knives?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:08, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

Please Delete ...
At your convenience, can you please delete Elm? I made a tabbed page.

Also if you could delete the following images, please? They are ones we don't need or we already have one of.
 * DireStraits-BarfBelch.PNG
 * MiAmoreWing-RabidGrimGnasher.PNG
 * MiAmoreWing-Butterfly.PNG
 * TripleCross-RedOleander1.PNG
 * TripleCross-RedOleander2.PNG
 * DarkestNight-SneezeWartBush.PNG
 * GuardiansOfVanaheim-Mr.MPoYD.PNG
 * KingOfDragonsPt2-Tomato.PNG
 * InPlainSight-Thunderfish1.PNG
 * AGruffSeparation-Desserts.PNG
 * ROB-ShipBattleScreen.PNG

If it's helpful, they are all listed on my Profile page and marked with "DELETE"

Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  03:33, February 28, 2018 (UTC)

I saw what you asked Ladybrassa, and I think that the book Snotlout was reading deserves a page. There is a certainly plenty of information for the page to make sense to have as we know all the names of the chapters, and maybe more than that. However, I am not sure about the twins travel guide as we don't know that much about it. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 15:20, February 28, 2018 (UTC)

I can't remember that much from the episode, but if you say they said a lot, then yes a page is needed. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 16:26, February 28, 2018 (UTC)

I don't see why not? I'm pretty sure the Twins' travel book have images of the pages, too, like when they diagram the tombs on Vanaheim.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:04, March 1, 2018 (UTC)

Can you delete Grasshopper? I made a tabbed page. Also, I tried the "Special:Whatlinkshere" search to change out links to the Grasshopper page, but it kept giving me every single plant and animal page, even though I updated all the Wildlife Navboxes. Is this happening to you?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  02:12, March 2, 2018 (UTC)

Gauntlets
Can you take a look at Gauntlet Events before I go any further? Do you think this is an appropriate page? I noticed that the ROB Wiki doesn't have much on these events, so I think they should be summarized somewhere, particularly the mini-stories associated with them. Also, I'm not sure if they count as a "Practice"? If not, where would this page go?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:34, March 1, 2018 (UTC)

Hey! Sorry for the late reply. I've changed the icons to circles. also might I suggest replacing the current Files titled File:Featured Character.png, File:Featured Other.png and File:Featured Species.png instead of uploading new ones? It will be easier for housekeeping. --https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  07:30, March 1, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Gauntlet page - Yes, I agree about putting specific dates. Problem is I don't remember what they were exactly :(

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:39, March 1, 2018 (UTC)

What does AJAX undo do? Cheetawolfnitrotyper (talk) 02:56, March 2, 2018 (UTC)

Done. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 12:45, March 4, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Unnamed Island in SOD
So sorry! I think you mentioned this recently and it completely left my mind!!

So, I have always heard this location referred to as Credit Island on the SOD forums and elsewhere, I think. I don't recall if this is what SOD refers to it as, or it is just a publicly-accepted name. And I completely forgot about that location when adding the SOD locations!! Yes, I think it should be on the Wiki, but lets research a little to see if it can get its own page "Credit Island" or add it to the Unnamed Islands page.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  18:16, March 4, 2018 (UTC)

Very likely, but just let me double check. In the mean time, if you want to add it to the Unnamed Islands page please do so. We can always change it later :)

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  18:28, March 4, 2018 (UTC)

I just wanted to double check to make sure an admin or SOD official didn't also call it "Credit Island", and of course, this is not the case. (just searched the forum). So yeas, definitely, it goes to the Unnamed Islands page! Also, SOD Wiki does have a page for it, so we can link to it. I will try to get screen shots sometime soon. Lady Brasa (  talk  )  18:42, March 4, 2018 (UTC)

Appearances Template for Games
Should the HTTYD game and HTTYD 2 game be added to the Games appearances template? Also Wild Skies?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  18:55, March 4, 2018 (UTC)

No worries, apparently I forgot I even asked you!!

I might have updated this template. Maybe. At your leisure, can you check it over please? I gotta get going now! Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  18:09, March 5, 2018 (UTC)

Dramillion infobox image.
Hey, I am wondering if you can replace the Dramillion's current infobox image with this one? The former is its Titan Wing form instead of a normal one. Thank you. --NarendraMartosudarmo (talk) 11:16, March 5, 2018 (UTC)

Arctic ...
There is a page for the "Arctic", which states it is where Valka's Mountain is located. I don't recall HTTYD2 actually mentioning this, do you? Yes, technically the Barbaric Archipelago is located in or near the Arctic (if it was real in the first place), but is this page really necessary? What do you think?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  17:02, March 5, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! Also I took out the link for you on "Arctic" :)

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  17:52, March 5, 2018 (UTC)

Hi, to avoid catching users unaware, I'd suggest that you justify why you delete pages. Thanks. Cheetawolfnitrotyper (talk) 17:46, March 5, 2018 (UTC)

Please delete ...
Hey, I just made Lizard into a tabbed page. Can you delete it? Also, I haven't yet looked for links to it, but the last few times I have tried, it won't give me a concise list, even if I wait awhile. It still shows me every single plant and animal page. I am wondering if it has to do with whether the page has actually been deleted or not?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  17:47, March 5, 2018 (UTC)

Those were not your images to begin with, they were someone else's that I originally deleted, that you restored for no good reason, and yes they are excessive because they are too close to each other. It looks better to have picture be very different, and the ones I redeleted are too similar to ones that I didn't delete. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 11:40, March 11, 2018 (UTC)

My bad. I guess I didn't exactly look to see who uploaded those pictures. The way they were named threw me off and I assumed something without looking. I won't toch those pictures or any pictures you uploaded again. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 17:12, March 11, 2018 (UTC)

Newest Expansion in SOD
Hey, I know you haven't played it yet. I will try to add things soon. Just finished it this evening. I have a jumble of pictures to edit (crop/lighten/etc) and some text to add as well.

I started a page for Lumie (just the skeleton of one). I don't presently have the energy or where-with-all to actually add much. I also added an "in usage" template to it, to try it out. I just wanted to say that if you wanted to edit the page (or others if I try out the template again), I'm totally cool with that.

PS. Not sure why I think you know who Lumie is ... he's the Krayfin that has been appearing in the last few expansions ...

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:00, March 14, 2018 (UTC)

Okie dokie, sounds good! If I recall, that Expansion was pretty good. I think I got stuck at one point and it took months for it to be resolved ... but still good.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:00, March 14, 2018 (UTC)

Done! HiccstridFan92 (talk) 13:23, March 17, 2018 (UTC)

Please Delete ...
At your convenience, can you please delete these images? I mis-named them.

Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:39, March 18, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks!

Also, could you delete Oyster? It is a tabbed page now. Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:10, March 20, 2018 (UTC)

"Bjorn" in Maces and Talons, Part 2
Hey, I was rewatching "Maces and Talons, Part 2" and pulling out screenshots. When the Riders get the Dragon Eye from Awesome Viking Cave Club NorthEast, Snotlout and Tuffnut recall playing a game:

"No, no, no, no. Remember, we were playing Pirates vs Vikings and Bjorn was the Pirate Captain?"

- Snotlout

Do you think this is a reference to Bjorn Boar? However, in that scene Tuffnut had just pointed at the stuffed yak head with and apple and sword in its mouth. I'm not sure.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  16:26, March 19, 2018 (UTC)

Page to consider deleting?
So there is a page - Gigantic Dragons ... do you think this page is necessary? It is not up to standard, has outdated info, and we have a category for "Gigantic dragons".

Also, can you delete the images: MacesAndTalonsPt2-Bjorn.PNG and AGruffSeparation-Chick-ly.PNG please? At your convenience of course!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:45, March 20, 2018 (UTC)

Oh also, there is the mention of "paprika-infused wheatgrass" in "No Bark, All Bite", with paprika being a pepper spice. In "Wrath of Stormheart", the regular Sentinels on Vanaheim are attacked with "pepper gas" which, I think means pepper spray, the stuff made from peppers in real life. Do you think this is enough for a "Pepper" page? Or not yet until an actual pepper is seen/mentioned rather than just pepper products?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  02:13, March 21, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, but can you look at the page, Viking Song? Supposedly it is categorized as being from the first How to Train Your Dragon Book. I didn't see it in my copy; is it in yours? I don't recollect it from another Book either. (Its possible I have forgotten, though) Anyway, I can't place it, and if you can't place it, should it be deleted? Worst case we can always reinstate the page later.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  02:13, March 21, 2018 (UTC)

"Policy" against redirects?
Hello. Is there any reason why you go by with a "policy" against redirects? MrAkisaurus (talk) 03:44, March 21, 2018 (UTC)

Clarifying some locations
I have another question for you to consider at your convenience. There is Dragon Hunter Island appearing on the Official RTTE map. All it says is "A major port for the dragon trade. Where Hunters will sell the dragons they have captured for a large sum." As we see throughout RTTE, there are many Dragon Hunter Islands/Ports. On our Dragon Hunter Island page, someone has added the places that appeared in "Maces and Talons", "Between a Rock and a Hard Place", and "Last Auction Heroes". I have rewatched the first two, and the islands appearing in each are the same island and are referred to in the episodes as "Viggo's Base". Snotlout and Heather indicate the island from "Maces and Talons" (where Heather was held captive) is the same as in "Between A Rock and A Hard Place" (the place where the marble dome was). However, the island appearing in "Last Auction Heroes" is not referred to as such, and if you remember, was a secret location Johann had to steal a map from the Tavern to locate. So not the same place. In none of these episodes is the location(s) called 'Dragon Hunter Island'.

I am suggesting to remove the entries on the Dragon Hunter Island page referring to these locations, but indicate that they might be one in the same, but not verified. An entry should be added on the Unnamed Islands / Dragons: Race to the Edge Season 4-6 page for the site of the auction in "Last Auction Heroes". Thirdly, a new page entited "Viggo's Base" should be created for the location seen and referred to in "Maces and Talons" and "Between a Rock and a Hard Place".

Does this sound reasonable, based on the info we have?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  16:09, March 21, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your thoughts! Still, the point I'm getting at is the location on the RTTE map never actually says it is the same place, whereas Caldera Cay on the map specifically states "Serves as the headquarters — and a place of worship — for the dragon-revering Defenders of the Wing" and gives screen shots of that island from the shows. Meaning we never actually have anything that says its the same place, so maybe, maybe not. Instead, we have concrete evidence that this location in question has been named "Viggo's Base". I find there have been inconsistencies between that map and what is actually said/seen in the show. (For example, the Island of Friga - says where weddings take place and has the Grimora, which, in show, is completely not correct).

So, in my mind there ought to be a separate page. However, if you do not agree, I can certainly edit the Dragon Hunter Island page to reflect the possibility of it not being the same location somewhere on the page. That page needs updating either way anyway, since it doesn't follow formatting.

As for Auction Island - that's really interesting!! I completely don't remember that being said in SOD (but I don't remember much). I love it when SOD ties in things, even little mentions and such, to other parts of the Franchise. What part of the Expansion did it appear in? I very briefly watched a Youtube video on the beginning and only saw a Hiccup talk blurb that he had been there before but was "too busy" to remember the location.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  19:58, March 21, 2018 (UTC)

Also, can you delete: I have better images. The user who uploaded them hasn't been on the Wiki since 2011. Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:45, March 22, 2018 (UTC)
 * Spotted Snowpecker Dodging an Arrow.png
 * Semi Spotted Snowpecker.png

Based on the Youtube vids from those points, there wasn't anything specifically saying Auction Island is the same as the place in "Last Auction Heroes". However, there was dialogue from Hiccup that kind of suggested it (where he said something to the effect that he had been to Auction Island before several years but was too busy to remember where it was). Also, "Return to Dragon Island" was released at the same time as Season 3, and also mentioned Berk's lost gold from that episode (They probably didn't yet know about the later episode recovering it ...), not to mention the appearance of the Singetails. So I think this is probably correct, just not spelled out :/ Seems there is a lot of that in the Franchise, specifically related to RttE!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:51, March 23, 2018 (UTC)

Re: The lighting of an image
Yes, I do edit some of the images when needed. I will lighten, crop, and sharpen. Of course never change the content of the image! Some screenshots are just too dark. Often in SOD the lighting is really off in the game. I don't really know how to edit images though, I just have an app on my phone that makes it easy.

I tried to lighten your image (it is really dark!) but the quality isn't very good. I also just snagged a screenshot off a Youtube video of the same scene that looks a little better.

Please use (or not) what you want and delete what you don't want. Hope something works.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:30, March 23, 2018 (UTC)

Re: telescope page
Yes; check with logo8th though - he has the images and I think at one point intended to make a page.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  10:48, March 24, 2018 (UTC)

Another page to consider deleting
Could you take a look at Ice Dragons? I'm not sure the page is necessary.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:53, March 25, 2018 (UTC)

I'm on my phone at the moment, but I had no idea that Ludia has a forum! Why would they leak this stuff early instead of having a surprise? Since it is a legit leak sure I can try. It is possible they might end up being too small.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  21:24, March 25, 2018 (UTC)

Here is "Coppertop". Quality is way better, but a little smaller, I think? Let me know if this is fine, and then I can work on the others.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:47, March 26, 2018 (UTC)

I added transparencies for the first set of new dragons above. I'll work on the second set over the next few days.

Also, someone created the page Oswald's Tomb. I am wondering if this page is necessary? It could simply be mentioned on Oswald's page and Vanaheim's page.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:48, March 27, 2018 (UTC)

When you have time, there are a few redirects I forgot to mention that need to be deleted:
 * Wolf
 * Villainy
 * Lars Grimborn
 * Lobster
 * Peacable Tribe

Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:19, March 29, 2018 (UTC)

Transparent background images for the new ROB dragons are done! I did accidentally upload one without changing the file name - could you delete it, please? - IMG 4409.PNG

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  21:38, March 30, 2018 (UTC)

Done. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 13:36, March 31, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Pumice
Yup, thanks! I think pumice is the type of volcanic rock that has all the air holes in it like swiss cheese.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  17:29, March 31, 2018 (UTC)

Aaaaannnnd I did it again. I think I'm trying to go too fast on a mere satellite internet connection :/ Can you please delete these two images, cuz I didn't name them like I wanted to.
 * NikorasMoldruffle.jpg
 * NikorasHeirloom.PNG

Thanks.

At your convenience, can you delete Hairy Bottom The Great? Someone just created it but there is already a page for this Book character (Great Hairybottom). Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  12:51, April 2, 2018 (UTC)

RE: An idea for the Dragon Fight Club
Please, Tauriel, by all means go ahead! I think it is a great idea. The main reason as to why I added that comment was to inform others, as considering all of the dragon abilities in Fight Club 17 it was headed more towards a tie, and yet the Typhoomerang was obtaining most votes. Especially after seeing a Night Fury win a poll over a Skrill by 80% of the votes, I knew something had to be done to inform others about the stat and ability comparison xD.

But funny thing is, I was going to request you to do the same thing! Was just trying to get the right suggestion first. Maybe a Dragon VS Dragon table? Showing the stats and abilities of one on the left side, the stats and abilities of the other dragon on the right side, and the outcome of every comparison in the middle? Just a suggestion.

If I can help in any way, please let me know.

P.S - Thank you for finishing the new Legendary Dragon template for me, had run out of time to finish it yesterday :)

Scratblue (talk) 14:54, April 5, 2018 (UTC)

Red Death Problem
I was just about to add the new Legendary Dragon template for Rise of Berk to the Green Death page, when I noticed a few issues.

In the franchise, what does the term "Red Death" mean? A species name, an individual's name, a temporary name? Until recently the Red Death page was even named Seadragonus Giganticus Maximus. What about the Green Death? Are there two different Green Death individuals, one for each game, or is it one individual appearing in both games? Is the Green Death also a Red Death, or is it a subspecies? In which case, why don't either of the individuals of the Red Death species and Green Death subspecies have their proper character page? For example: "Dragon Island Red Death", "Dragon Island Green Death, "Darkened Green - Green Death" etc.

It is just very confusing, especially to categorize and provide proper specifications for, so just wanted to clear that out. If no correct answer exists, maybe I should make a blog post concerning this and discuss it with the community and/or more powered users? I mean, this is a rather large missing piece of information.

Scratblue (talk) 19:14, April 6, 2018 (UTC)

Hey, so I will post here my thoughts and maybe I'll also message Scratblue, too.

From what I can gather, the Red Death seen in HTTYD movie is an individual of an unnamed dragon species. Some fans have named the species "Chromatic Death", but obviously we can't use that here. In the absence of a species name, the species has kind of been referred to as "Red Death". So here on the Wiki, the species is called Red Death because we have nothing else to go on and we see the individual - named the Red Death - in the movie. I think it would be way too confusing to have a Red Death species page and a Red Death character page. Basically they'd be the same info anyway. Interesting to note: the Dragonpedia calls the Red Death (the character) a "Titan Wing".

The Green Deaths: because RoB and SoD are two separate games from separate companies, I think it is safe to say the Green Deaths are two separate individuals. Again, they are individually named Green Death of the Green Death taxonomic group. I think it is generally accepted that the Green Death taxonomic group is related closely to the unnamed Red Death species, such as a sub-species of this unnamed Death species is (or "Chomatic" Death species). As for SoD, its been a little while since I played "Return to Dragon Island" and I don't recall any dialogue contradicting that the Green Death is a subspecies? Do you remember? As with the Red Death, I think it would be too confusing on an already confusing topic to have pages for the Green death individuals.

So in summary: "Red Death" should be a species page and the default name for whatever the species is. The page should be detailed about the character Red Death as well. The infobox should be the dragon species infobox. The Green Death should be entered as a subspecies, with discussion of both the characters in the two games. I think last I looked each heading has sub-categories for each game and that seems to work, I think. The legendary template could be added under "Appearances" heading and "Dragons: Rise of Berk" subheading.

Interesting to note, and you may be well aware, is that the Red Death was going to be the Franchise variation of the "Green Death" from the Books, a Seadragonus Giganticus Maximus. Apparently they changed it toward the end of production to the "Red Death" for unknown reasons. There is no information that they intended their dragon based off the book dragon to be a Seadragonus Giganticus Maximus though.

Then the comic "The Legend of Ragnarok" came along with the "Purple Death" ... this dragon is generally considered a separate species altogether because of its completely different appearance, class, and abilities. Very early summaries of the comic called it an SGM, but those disappeared so I don't think it is accurate to name the species as such. Again, the Purple Death is an individual of a species not named except as "Purple Death".

DreamWorks really leaves tons of things unanswered :/ I wish we could find some stuff out!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:42, April 7, 2018 (UTC)

Just for the hay of it, I signed up for that Ludia forum where you found the images for the latest released dragons in ROB and posted questions about the Green Death and what exactly it is. Maybe I'll get an answer as to what Ludia thinks or knows. That way its something "official". I would do the same on the SOD forum, but I'm fairly certain I wouldn't get a response :(

If Ludia answers, then maybe we can pick their brains for other ROD-related tidbits!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:25, April 7, 2018 (UTC)

Background image and others
Thanks. I used the image you suggested in the header. Do you have any image suggestions for the toolbar? I don't know how to get rid of the thing Woolly Howl added that requires an image that is spread across the whole toolbar. That made me think that getting an image to put there that works with the current background is what I need to do, and thus stick with what Woolly Howl did with the previous theme of the wiki. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 17:56, April 6, 2018 (UTC)

Purple Death species
Hello Tauriel,

I noticed that the Purple Death (Franchise) is mentioned in the infobox in the Red Death as being an individual or subspecies belonging to the Red Death species, when both dragons are an entiely different species and belong in different Classes. Also besides both bearing the word "Death" in their name, both dragons bear virtually no similarities, save for a few general features like their fire type.

May I remove the Purple Death from the Red Death's infobox?

Scratblue (talk) 19:14, April 6, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you Tauriel, it just didn't make sense to have two separate species listed as individuals of one another.

I see User:Logo8th beat me to editing the page, oh well.

-- Scratblue ~ Talk Page  15:30, April 7, 2018 (UTC)

RE: Telescope Page
Sorry, I didn't see your question on my talk page until now. Yes it is perfectly okay to make a telescope page and to use my images to create it. I planned to do that myself eventually anyway. Go ahead. Lo g o   Dra go n Cre ator      22:31, April 7, 2018 (UTC)

Fight Club Suggestions
Hello Tauriel, how at you doing?

I wanted to make a few suggestions concerning the Fight Club, to be honest I see a great deal of potential in these fights, especially to entertain fans and users while they wait for the release of the upcoming movie and T.V show.

Maybe a standard can be devised, for all dragons, to level the playing field of battles. The more mature and experienced users could discuss the capacities and limits of all characters and dragons, and categorize them accordingly, dividing them in groups by overall power, taking stats, abilities, speed, agility, strength, weight, size, wingspan, endurance, stamina, and intelligence into consideration. For example: Category X contains the following dragons: Night Fury, Snow Wraith, Woolly Howl, Scauldron and Flightmare". The category explanations for each species could be explained on a Fight Club section in their respective pages. This would make Fights more fair for all contestants, preventing stronger characters and dragons from being set up against weaker ones, kind of like Fishleg's Cards.

Also, maybe Fight Clubs could be set with a certain amount of moves per voting session for each dragon/character, where people can vote for one move per character/dragon, with the most votes per battle resulting in that ability being utilized. Every move leads to a certain outcome. The voted upon move will be used up and be unavailable for the next vote, to prevent the spamming of certain (usually overpowered) abilities. This will continue every 2 days or so until all moves are used up, with the winner chosen at the end of a week or two-week period. A health bar can be added for both dragons, with each move dealing a certain damage and others blocking a certain amount of damage. The winner is the character or dragon with the highest health and most damage dealt.

This would make Fight Clubs way more interesting, relying on specific moves being used with correct timing, thus stimulating voters to know their characters and dragons instead of on the popularity characters. Again, this would make the battles more fair for lesser known characters and dragons, spicing things up.

This is it for now, as soon as I have another idea I will suggest it.

PS: Why did you remove the images for the Prickleboggle from the gallery in its page? Being a videogame-reformed book dragon, it will not have many opportunities to include images in its page, with firepower being one of the very few possibilities.

Scratblue ~ Talk Page  15:12, April 8, 2018 (UTC)

Hi Tauriel

That table looks great! I was thinking maybe adding some notes at the bottom concerning erroneous or inconsistent stats, for example: Timberjack's size, or the Skrill's speed. Possibly dragon abilities as well? Like the Timberjack's Fire Nova Attack and the Typhoomerang's Flaming Cyclone ability.

Other than the few things I mentioned it looks great. Looking forward to seeing it applied.

Scratblue ~ Talk Page  19:39, April 11, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Underwater Section in SOD
Yeah, I remember somewhat from "Secret of the Leviathan". However, I didn't realize we could go back afterwards! Yeah, I'll see if I can get some screen shots.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:28, April 9, 2018 (UTC)

I've uploaded and placed some images of those critters at the Ship Graveyard!

At your convenience, can you take a look at the Fish_(Franchise) section on the Fish (Franchise) page? I had added that to the page a little while ago, but really can't find a real species that looks very close to the SOD fish seen. Do you have any thoughts on what it could be?

Also, yes, I'll archive my messages soon! I want to get a few more sections in, so I don't archive active topics.

Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:37, April 10, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for checking. I have the feeling that the developers just add fish that might not be meant to be a specific species, maybe just something they have seen in their lives or something.

Also, SOD released a new quest and the Grim Gnasher as a trainable dragon today. I have gotten screenshots from the quest of the sun dial and three baby rumblehorns, and some other things. However the lighting in game where the rumblehorns are is atrocious in my game. I'll work with what I got, but could you try to get some screenshots in case the lighting on your platform is better? If it is, I can tinker with them if needed. Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  13:17, April 10, 2018 (UTC)

Can you please delete SOD-RumblingDocksAndSunDialClocks-SunDial2.JPG please? Seems I uploaded the same one twice.

If you get to it before me, I have images for the "Three Baby Rumblehorns" and "Sun Dial" on my Profile page to make pages for, from that new quest. I'm going to bed!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:04, April 11, 2018 (UTC)

Please delete at your convenience
Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:47, April 13, 2018 (UTC)

Done. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 13:29, April 14, 2018 (UTC)

Pagini care au nevoie de imagini
Spune-mi te rog paginile ale caror dragoni au nevoie de imagini ca sa se creeze noi galerii....Youngtrainer (talk) 15:38, April 14, 2018 (UTC)

inca ceva am observat ca ai sters imagini din galeria Singetailului lui Krogan, mi-ai putea spune dc si daca le-ai putea pune la loc?Youngtrainer (talk) 16:40, April 14, 2018 (UTC)

Snogglesong
Hi Tauriel,

I'll admit I'm not an expert on the various dragon species, but maybe you can explain it to me. I understand Snogglesong a subspecies, but when there's only one known individual, wouldn't it also be a character? One of our [newer] editors posted in Discussions about why Snogglesong wasn't listed in the Category:Dragon Characters from the Franchise page. I didn't quite understand why it wasn't there either, so I went ahead and added it.

I know we have a number of other dragons where there's only one individual in the franchise but separate pages have been created for the species/subspecies and character. I personally find this to be kind of silly when both pages are practically identical since they're for the same dragon, but I'm not going to gripe about it. Should a Snogglesong (Character) page be created then?

I do value any input you may have. 😊 Thank you, Tauriel.

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 17:10, April 14, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for getting back to me! And I understand what you're saying, but I already know what a subspecies is. Maybe I wasn't quite clear-- When there's only one known individual, couldn't it be both a subspecies and a character?

I remember talk recently about the Red Death being both a species and a character since it's also a single individual. Right now the Red Death's page is set up with both 'species' and 'character' templates and categories.

Or, another option could be to create a separate page for the character if we don't want to include info for both 'species' and 'character' on the same page like we do for the Red Death. We only know of the one Shellfire but it has a separate page forViggo's Titan Wing Shellfire. So does the Sandbuster with Wild Sandbuster, when we only know of the one. I personally think the second option is rather unnecessary, as it would make more sense to just include both species and character info on the same page (like we do for the Red Death). Also, if going with the second option, there's a lot of other dragons who would need an additional page created for them as a character if we are to keep the wiki consistent. You can see how that would be overkill. Yet at the same time consistency is important.

Do you see what I'm saying? I guess it's the consistency issue that's confusing me. That and the user who asked why they couldn't find the Snogglesong in the Category:Dragon Characters from the Franchise page was a little frustrated that they had to go about a different route to find it. It would be more user-friendly if it could be included in both species and character categories.

Sorry for the wall of text. Just trying to be clear in verbalizing my thought process. 😉

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 20:57, April 14, 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations on reaching 200 consecutive days of making edits. It is not an easy thing to do. There have been some users who have reached 100, but failed to reach 200. The first time I reached 100 consecutive days I got to around 160 consecutive days before missing a day. I started the streak over and I am currently at 330 some straight days which puts me on track to get the badge for editing for 365 days in a row on May 17th. Good luck with working towards editing 365 days in a row day by day, but good job reaching the 200 day mark today, and being the second to get to that mark. HiccstridFan92 (talk) 12:06, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

(Sorry, intruding in others’ convos again!). Congrats on reaching 200 day’s!!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  12:59, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Guide to the Dragons Books
Yeah, sorry, if you are referring to the Franchise "Guide to Dragons" Books, no I don't. I do have the Book dragons Guide. I might consider getting them if the price is right and would be helpful. Were you looking for something specific?

Also, I just Archived another 100 of my talk page messages, but messed up naming it. Can you please delete Talk:Ladybrasa/Archive 2? Also if you could do the protection thingie on User talk:Ladybrasa/Archive 2.

Thanks so much!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:40, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

So it looks like these books are out of print or something. Volumes one and two can be purchased used for a reasonable cost, but the third volume is too expensive, at least on Amazon and a used book site I looked at.

Incidentally, if you go to the Amazon page for |Volume 3, they show sample pages. The sample pages include the Hobblegrunt and Scuttleclaw (hatchlings).

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:12, April 15, 2018 (UTC)