Talk:Submaripper/@comment-27624304-20190318160352/@comment-27624304-20190319021536

" what is stated in books or whatever is also just guesswork. " - Yes, I certainly don't disagree with this. That's what it appears to me also.

"they could easily pass as just fan estimates." - I don't fully agree with this, since the values are referenced, in this case WoD. Any viewers who really care should see where the numbers come from and draw their own conclusions.

As for the models, I can't say I know how exactly it works, but from the images, there are simply no numbers given. Is an "in real life" even necessary to create the episodes or rather qualitative size in comparison to other features or characters within the episode? Are you using the size given for Hiccup and/or Toothless, then measuring how many "Hiccups" long the model is (or something along those lines)?

I didn't want to assume you specifically were generating these numbers. And yes, I can see you put in a lot of effort into them. Sorry if removing them upset you. I can understand seeing something dismissed that you worked on is upsetting. However, at the end of the day, you don't work for Dreamworks (maybe you ought to since you have more care for their creations!), so at the very root of the problem is DW "facts" versus fan "facts". If this is allowed, its a slippery slope to other things is someone wants to meddle in it - other stats that don't make sense, then abilities that don't make sense, to other things that don't make sense but a fan can reason with science or other things to say its not true.

Because the official size values are "unrealistic" and you did put a lot of effort into the calculations, I will tinker with this page and hopefully come up with a solution to satisfy both of us and the needs of the Wiki.