User:HiccstridFan92/Talk archive:2018 Part 2

Abuse and Vandalism alert
This user is making counterproductive edits and reverts, renaming pages to gibberish, and asking another user for their password. Needless to say their user name is also inappropriate. At further investigation, the user they're attempting to intimidate is a bureaucrat of another Wiki, from which the abuser has been blocked.

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 21:12, April 22, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Hiccstridfan. It was worrisome how he wasn't stopping, and who knows how much more he would have tried later. Do we even have any Rollbacks here? Think Annabeth will allow me to be one? That would have made reverting this guy's edits much quicker and easier.

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 00:27, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! 😊

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 01:28, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Drop Down Menu
Ever so briefly, but in the main header/drop down menu, Stoick's (franchise) link is broken and so is the Regatta's (along with being misspelled). And now the HTTYD3 link is broken too. When you get a chance, could you please fix them? I was also hoping the Discussion Rules might be added to the Policies tab of the menu. All that's under the Policies tab now are the guidelines for editing the wiki, which serves no propose to most of the users who use Discussions. It'd be nice if they had quick access to the Discussions Rules, too.

Thank you so much!

Edit: Someone else alerted Annabeth about the Regatta link. Looks like she removed it from the menu entirely. But I just now noticed that the "(more...)" link under the "Events and Practices" tab leads to the infobox rather than the category.

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 15:56, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry for evading my block on my other account here. Is this account going to be blocked too? Hiccstridfan92 (talk) 03:03, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

The issues last night
Thank you. I figured there was no need to alert either of you this time as he left messages on your Talk pages, thus alerting you for me. 😏 Besides, I know I've been pestering you more than usual lately. I assume you saw all that he did last night? Including the messages he left on Annabeth's and my Talk pages? This guy is a trip! I'm glad I was online and able to shoot his edits down as fast as he made them.

And thanks for fixing the broken links in the drop down menu! No need to rush in adding Discussion Rules to the Policies tab, you can do it when you're able. Oh, and remember the "(more...)" link under the "Events and Practices" tab leads to the Events infobox instead of the category.

Thanks again, HiccstridFan! 😊

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 15:30, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Hi, HiccstridFan92! Sorry about the misunderstandings on the global block. Anyways, glad to see you back! :P Cheetawolfnitrotyper (talk) 20:05, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Hey, just wanted to follow up on what your thoughts were (posted a few sections back) about the 1st Chief of Berk page?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:38, April 26, 2018 (UTC)

Hello HiccstridFan92! I don't really know how to edit quotes. If you could tell me how I would give you as many Dragon Eye lenses as I could find. Thanks lots! But I can't really give you a Dragon Eye lens as the Dragon Riders destroyed them both at the end of Race To The Edge.

Tahlibahli (talk) 03:45, April 26, 2018 (UTC)

Admin vote
I sure hope they make you an admin for this Wiki for all your tolerance and contributions.

Among many other reasons. Blu100-Jewel100 (talk) 00:16, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

Fight Club
Hi! The new Fight Club Match just started. Can you please add it to the notifications? Thanks!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  05:28, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

I never contacted Fandom Staff so I am not sure how to do it. Can you do it after sleeping? Good night, by the way!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  04:29, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

Rollin' on Back
Since you are the last admin online (or to any other admin reading ...) can you please rollback/undo the edits of that petulant child from last night? It includes the Flax and Gallery: Great Hall pages, among others. At your convenience, of course!

Also, is there anything a regular user can do, when it appears an admin is not online at the time? I haven't done anything so far, because there isn't anything I can do that I know of, or that would just feed the troll ...

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:36, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

First of all, you answered me and told me to talk to Annabeth about it.

Second, I think that you should push that thought back for a bit later. I have an important exam coming up and I will not be very active in the next two months. Thank you for thinking of me, but right now I would not be able to do much. Maybe in June, after I finish with my exam?

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  18:57, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

Can you please unblock my message wall on this wiki please.

Hi HiccstridFan, I was thinking about asking Annabeth if I could become a Content Mod, or at least have Rollback rights. I ask (often HTTYDbigFan) frequently for admins to delete images or pages and such and it would be easier if I could do it myself. Also, if vandalism occurs when I am online, I can take care of it. Thirdly, sometimes I message users over things like asking them to follow Wiki rule (such as when they aren't using full templates) and it'd feel better if I had a little title rather than just being some nosy editor. If you feel this is not appropriate, please let me know (and Annabeth).

Thanks! Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:17, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

I'm on right now for a few hours.--

First Chief of Berk page
Hey, just reposting about this page:

So the page 1st Chief of Berk - was that supposed to be deleted? Based on the Comments section, it seems so. If not, do you know where the written information was obtained? It has been a while since I watched Riders and Defenders episodes, but I don't remember anything about convincing the son to murder the father and starting the war with dragons and so on ...

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:09, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks!

Its back at it ... Lady Brasa (  talk  )  02:16, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you.
Thanks for protecting my user talk page. I contacted vstf about the trolling situation, because very similar trolling has been occurring on other wikis as well. Hopefully they will verify if all of these troll accounts are being operated by the same person or a group of people. Cheetawolfnitrotyper (talk) 12:33, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Trollin' Right Along ...
I'm glad you were on! Forgive my computer illiteracy, but Ip Addresses - does each computer/device have one or does each location have one? I am wondering if this troll has access to a computer lab or library or something where there are a bunch of different computers and s/he can just move to a different computer?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:35, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Actually, IP addresses can change periodically on a computer, so it is also possible that the troll's IP address changed on a computer. I can definitely see such a change on my computer. Cheetawolfnitrotyper (talk) 12:28, May 4, 2018 (UTC)

User Vandalizing Pages
It seems like we have another troll account and I have reported him to Fandom Staff. He made a mess on your talk page as well so I edited it back to how it was before he vandalized it. Sorry about the 'editing mess', I accidentally clicked on rollback twice and had to manually go back and save the page as how it originally was. Hope you don't mind. 😊 --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 23:23, May 4, 2018 (UTC)

The troll also made two accounts again. And the second created this page which might need special attention.

Aside from that page, I think we got all their edits undone.

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 01:52, May 5, 2018 (UTC)

Hey Hiccstrid again sorry for the mess of images Imade up but I want to known if you want to help to put some images in other pages so tell me, you crated some pages who have incomplete galleries?Youngtrainer (talk) 09:59, May 6, 2018 (UTC)

If you're available ... Lady Brasa (  talk  )  02:00, May 10, 2018 (UTC)

I didn't realize I had not checked that box off when I renamed the page. Sorry about that. :-/ I'll do better to remember next time. --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 17:24, May 10, 2018 (UTC)

Ah, ok. Thanks!--

Hi! A new Fight Club Match started. Can you add it to tge notifications, as usual? Thanks!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  03:45, May 12, 2018 (UTC)

I know. I will cut them off as soon as I have time. I don't know if you noticed, but yesterday I did upload images with black bars, which I replaced later. Unfortunately, I can't upload them already cut because I upload the photos from my phone and I can only cut them properly when I get access to a computer. I promise that they will not be left as they are.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  14:27, May 13, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry for responding so late to your post. I had looked at it during a quick break at work and then, to be honest, forgot about it. I can certainly still contact Fandom Staff as you requested, but might be too late at this point? When it happens again (hopefully not) I will know what to do though!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  15:22, May 13, 2018 (UTC)

So, I cropped the images I uploaded today. I still have a few left uncropped from yesterday but I promise I will take care of them as soon as I can.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  17:25, May 13, 2018 (UTC)

Troll's back
He has returned, so whichever of you is first available to block him.

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 00:40, May 14, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for protecting my profile page, that was very kind. 😊 And I also contacted Fandom about him, though I never do know if I did so correctly. It appears he's finally getting bored because he's been only attacking 1-3 pages the last few times he was here. Hopefully soon he'll finally learn that he will not win and give up, and not come back.

Thanks again, HiccstridFan!

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 01:32, May 14, 2018 (UTC)

Question
Hi Hiccstridfan, don’t you think you could use the Hiccstrid images on the episode images focused on Hiccup and Astrid’s relationship? I know I’m not a big fan of romance, but why not do it I mean it’ll be fine hope you can read my message. Thanks!

Thank you!--

Input?
Hi HiccstridFan,

Don't worry, there's no urgency here. 😊 Just wanting input. This user created a second account for one (this was their first), and they always take special interest in Grimmel, Drago, and the other villains. And also Heather, Mala, and the third movie. They continuously edit unconfirmed info into the pages. I've talked to them many times when undoing their edits, but after a week or two they come back and do it again.

Thing is, one of the edits they keep doing is replacing the "no screenshot" image with a non-existent image that I can only assume another wiki they frequent uses. But today they uploaded a and I think the new image might actually be a good idea for human characters and cast/crew for whom we don't have an image yet.

I'll let you decide which action to take on the socking and unconfirmed info they keep adding. But I mainly just wanted to know your thoughts on the new image and using it on new character pages.

Thanks!

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 07:51, May 20, 2018 (UTC)

They are all from the Licensing Expo event that started today and I added a source along with the first picture that leads to License Global Magazine. The picture itself also mentions the event. I can't add fan sources since they are all reposts but if you want me to source the photographer I can do that. But the real source is still the Licensing Expo/License Global. --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 02:39, May 23, 2018 (UTC)

Alright. :) Just to let you know, there are more posters out there that I have not added yet because they were so LQ when I first saw them. If you visit Grapevine, tumblr or twitter you will probably come across some of them. --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 02:53, May 23, 2018 (UTC)

I agree. Something like that would work.--

I thought it was funny at the time, plus I like superheroes. Awesomer12 (talk) 16:03, May 24, 2018 (UTC)

Spoilers
So question. Maybe I haven't thought it through, but just to ask ... is it possible to not allow new people to join our Wiki for a brief period? This seems kind of mean, though :( However, because so far there doesn't sound like a fool-proof way to hide spoilers away, I am wondering. I feel like those of us that are actually active on the Wiki can refrain from adding spoiler content or edit new info appropriately, and I feel that most of us do not have to do too much policing of others' edits. I feel like this can be communicated to everyone as the active group is small. However, what appeared from my point of view to happen when RttE seasons were released, especially the last one, was a bunch of new people making all kinds of edits that needed to be cleaned up, doesn't appear they read the rules or even the pages they were edits, and most of those people have likewise disappeared. Do you agree with this observation? A few of course are still here and doing fine and have gotten the hang of things. I guess what I am anticipating is having the most problems with newbies coming on board at the release of the third movie. Is this a possibility? Too harsh (maybe it is)? I mean I don't want to discourage new, thoughtful editors. (Kind of feel a wee bit bad suggesting it ...)

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:51, May 24, 2018 (UTC)

Do you think protecting the pages would be a useful tool to us in avoiding spoilage?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  01:08, May 26, 2018 (UTC)

Featured Articles - Summer 2018
Hi! As you know, we are only a few days away from the beginning of summer, meaning that a new set of Featured Articles needs to be discussed. As you may have noticed, last week I was cleaning up Heather's page, so, if I may, I suggest her as the Featured Character, considering that she is a very popular character in the Httyd Fandom. However, I have been a little more busy than usual and I haven't thiught about the Featured Dragon and Featured Other. Do you have any ideas?

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  08:16, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

How to train your dragon 3
Hello, nice to meet you We know when it will be the trailer How to Train Your Dragon 3?Witek17b (talk) 11:33, May 28, 2018 (UTC)Witek17b

Patoadam (talk) 17:42, May 30, 2018 (UTC)

Hi! There is a petition going on about new season of Dragons race to the Edge. If you haven't signed it yet please do so in the following link:

https://www.change.org/p/dreamworks-tv-show-after-how-to-train-your-dragon-2-and-before-how-to-train-your-dragon-3

Sure thing, thank you so much for keeping me updated. I saw the user’s edits, thanks for managing this situation so promptly. She definitely deserves those rights. She has been really active and helpful around the wiki. Happy to have her onboard! https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  12:18, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

Actually, my exam is next week and if the Httyd 3 trailer will appear this week, I will be completely inactive for a few days, as I don't want it to distract me. However, if you want, you can make me an admin now and I'll start behaving like one as soon as I'm finished with the exam.

P.S. There are two admins, Toothless the Nightfury and Whispering Death who have been inactive in the last years. When you ask Annabeth to make me an admin, can you also ask her to remove their rights? I even talked to Toothless the Nightfury a while ago and he agreed that he no longer needs to be an admin.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  15:28, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

P.P.S. I also want to change my name into the one I have in the signature and I think it would be better of you would make me an admin after it. I'm planning to change it during my inactivity as I've heard that it can take up to a day for those who have thousands of edits.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  15:33, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

I know I can change it only once, and I'm sure about the new one. I was planning to change it a while ago, but I was waiting for a time when I would be inactive, so that no matter how much it takes, it won't be a problem for me.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  15:54, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know! I'll wait until her rename is complete.--

Spoiler Category
Hi! :) I was wondering if you could add a spoiler category on the How to Train Your Dragon Wiki Discussion Boards. --  AlexaDragons   ( talk ) 15:46, June 5, 2018 (UTC)

Who's gonna be a new admin?

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2018/06/05/how-train-your-dragon-3-new-photos-reveal-toothless-love/665961002/Youngtrainer (talk) 17:28, June 5, 2018 (UTC)

I hope that I am not exagerating with the images for httyd 3 so I wnt to anounce you before banishing me for a month for to many images per DAY!Youngtrainer (talk) 14:35, June 8, 2018 (UTC)

Well that's a great pleasure to hear these in a while cuz I make a short vacation for at least 2 months but I will watching when I'm not busy for the news. I have a question can you yalk with the other admins to make a content moderator? I want to fill the gap of my feeling to this wiki and the single which I like to provide more content...Youngtrainer (talk) 15:25, June 8, 2018 (UTC)

Suggestion for 'Active' pages
So with the release of the HTTYD:HW poster and especially the trailer, there has been a flurry of edits on certain pages such as Light Fury, Unnamed Light Fury, and of course Hiccup, Astrid, etc. etc. From what I've seen, it is not always in line with our standards or even our Wiki rules. An example is the images not being properly named, and I feel like only a couple of us attempt to categorize the images we upload. A few of the mods, admins, and others have been keeping it cleaned up well (looks like it to me at least from the Recent Wiki Activity page!). Anyway, I am wondering if it might be helpful to make another template to add to the tops of some pages that everyone seems to be editing in a given time period, stating something to the effect of "This page is actively being edited. Please make sure to follow manual of style and for the How to Train Your Dragon Wiki when adding or editing images, page structure, templates, and so forth. Please contact a staff member if any help is needed." Or something to that effect. I feel like it might grab the attention of a few more people if it is placed at the top of a page that a lot of people currently have interest in, like some of the other templates. So you think this would be helpful to everyone and the Wiki?

Actually, we have a "Hot Spots" box, so the page the template is on could be called something like an "editing hot spot".

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:34, June 9, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again, just wanted to let you know I just did a few things ... I added a rule to the Manual of Style about adding categories to images. I hope it was okay that I edited that page. Please let me know if that is unacceptable.

I also sent a message to a user who has uploaded a large number of images from the trailer, asking them to appropriately name future images, add categories, and check to make sure there aren't already images up of a particular scene. There are apparently alot of duplicate images up already just from the trailer ...

Also, I see you appeared to add categories "automatically" to a large number of images at one time? Is that correct? If so, how? I know how to change categories for pages in bulk ...

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  23:44, June 9, 2018 (UTC)

So for the mass add category, do you have to manually add "File:" to every single image file?

Also, how is this? :

I'll start adding the "Hot Spot" template to some articles like Light Fury and Unnamed Light Fury and their associated galleries, as well as the HTTYD:HW page. Do you think it would be helpful to add them to major characters Hiccup, Astrid, and Toothless?

Also, we prefer for images to not have watermarks, correct? (Maybe unless it is dreamworks logo since they are official) Alot of Berk's Grapevine images from the trailer are on the Wiki now and I was wondering if we should delete them?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  12:39, June 10, 2018 (UTC)

Links
Hello! I've been cleaning up the Dragon Species pages recently and as most of these pages are incredibly lengthy, I have noted a major inconsistency with linking. A recap: the current policy in the Manual of Style is to link only the first mention of article name, unless the page is really long, then links should appear once more around the 3/4 mark of the page. However, I have noticed a few problems. Also, it might be tedious for users who want to add new information to check through the entire page, which explains why there is so much inconsistency.
 * 1) Some captions have links, others do not. Are image captions considered 'part of the article'?
 * 2) Templates like Quotes and ROB/SOD templates are a confusing bit. Should links appear here too?
 * 3) Lengthy pages are quite subjective, exactly how long must the article be to have reminder links?

Hence, I would like to propose this: Do let me know what you think about this. --https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/howtotrainyourdragon/images/0/04/TheWoollyHowlSig2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170430071121 (talk)  14:27, June 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) First mentions of an article under every main section, those denoted by == should be linked. This does not include sub-sections.
 * 2) Quotes and captions should never be linked, regardless of whether links have appeared in the article body.
 * 3) First mentions in data templates, so things like the ROB/SOD templates, should always be linked, regardless of whether links have appeared previously in the section or article.

Dear Admin,

Is There A Way That You Can Make A Roleplaying Segment On This Wiki?

Sincerely, Ninja Zero A.K.A soutiger267Soultiger267 (talk) 17:45, June 11, 2018 (UTC)

Hi HiccstridFan92

I haven't been able to edit any pages, mainly the Light Fury page and gallery, i don't know what is going on but i sure could use your or another admins help

Thanks Light Fury13 (talk) 23:54, June 11, 2018 (UTC) Light Fury 13

More maintenance ...
I went ahead and deleted the images with the berk's grapevine logo. That shortened the HTTYD:HW gallery quite a bit and took out some of the dupes. I also updated the Manual of Style to specify images shouldn't have watermarks, unless they are official logos like Dreamworks, but best avoided if possible.

I have in the past uploaded a few images with the Cartoon Network logo. They were screenshots from clips of the Riders and Defenders series. I am not able to get screenshots otherwise at this time. I think since CN licensed them that this logo is acceptable. What do you think?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  00:25, June 12, 2018 (UTC)

Hi! I'm finally done with my exams and I can get back to the wiki. It looks like I have a lot to catch up to. You can make me an admin now, if you still want to.

Apparently, I couldn't change my name due to having some problems with logging into my email account, so I guess I have to stick up with this name for now.

Also, I see that you, Annabeth and Woolly have your names colored. I suppose that this is a feature for admins only? If yes, could you make my name forest green? Thank you!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  08:57, June 13, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! Also, I can help you with the welcome messages, if you want. I've done a few right before being inactive, so I know how to do it.

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  15:01, June 13, 2018 (UTC)

I would like to help out, however I'm not very sure what am I supposed to do. I mean, what do I have to write on those pages?

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  15:38, June 13, 2018 (UTC)

So I had added to the Manual of Style 1 or 2 days ago: ''Images must not have any words on it that are not a part of the picture. This includes watermarks or logos. Official logos such as that of Dreamworks, however, is acceptable if it cannot be avoided.'' Does this wording sound okay?

I'm hoping to at least try to start off the HTTYD3 images on the right foot, though it will probably become too much. I've cleared out the ones with logos, most of the dupes are gone, and I marked most of the ones needing to be renamed, they just need to be renamed and added in. I don't suppose there is some special 'mass' rename and replace on the page for images is there?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:36, June 13, 2018 (UTC)

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:36, June 13, 2018 (UTC)

Light Fury Classification ...
Hey, I'm going to message the other staff as well, but I think we should make a decision about how to classify the Light Fury, whether it is a species or sub-species. Obviously it is subject to change as more information becomes available. Unfortunately, Dean Deblois - though he wants to be realistic/scientific with the movies - isn't really a biologist and has called the Light Fury a 'species', 'sub-species, 'variation', and probably something else at this point in his various interviews. It does matter to the Wiki, especially since we have separate templates and layouts and such for dragon species and sub-species. It also looks like it may be a source of conflicting edits and such.

My personal opinion is that the Light Fury is a separate species, as that makes the most sense biologically. Sub-species refer to different groups within a species that often are in distinct geographic areas and may have some different morphology, but that morphology is usually 'minor'. Like striping on a tiger being a little different or one sub-species is a little smaller or larger than another. They can also fully interbreed and produce fertile offspring and carry on the line. Species are differentiated by much more obvious morphological differences, geographic differences, and by the fact that two species cannot produce a new, fertile hybrid species. Certainly two species similar enough can breed and produce offspring, but they are usually sterile or sterile enough not to be able to carry on the line. Examples are mules, zorses, and various cat hybrids like ligers. If the Light Fury and the Night Fury are really the same species, then there would be a population of them especially since Dean said the Unnamed Light Fury is not the last of her kind. Also, while they both look similar, there is obvious major differences that speak more to a separate species than just a sub-species. Out of what we currently know, the Light Fury and Night Fury being two different species (but closely related) makes sense.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  22:59, June 17, 2018 (UTC)

I see you were just on not too long ago. Are you able to chat for just a couple minutes? Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:19, June 18, 2018 (UTC)

Deleted Discussions post
Hi HiccstridFan,

I'm wondering if you read the post you deleted. Because it is HTTYD related, and in fact pretty cool and unique. I know the image looks off topic at first glance, but the OP hid Toothless references in it, and she explains that. She posted additional images with hidden Toothless references in the comments.

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 16:04, June 20, 2018 (UTC)

hi

hi! thanks for the message!sorry it took me so long to reply.

I'm glad to hear that!

 Tauriel of Mirkwood ( talk )  17:30, June 29, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for blocking that user. Yeah, I saw that you were the one to delete the post. And Hana thanks you for that. 😊 It was about 6am where I am so I wasn't online yet, so thank you for taking care of it before it got further or of hand.

--🍀 Dublyn~ (  talk  ) 18:51, June 30, 2018 (UTC)

Layout for Galleries
(I will be copy/pasting this message to the other staff)

I was wondering what your opinion is for Gallery layouts? Specifically whether we should have sub-headings for episodes, or just caption the first image with an episode title. This question was brought up because I edited the page Gallery: Krogan's Singetail with episode sub-headings (I thought we were kind of doing this now) and Tauriel changed it back to the latter format because this is what we have previously done and is noted on the article standard page. The gallery is currently arranged with episode captions. Here is an example with episode sub-headings from the history (hopefully I can link it): []. Please disregard all the deleted images; I'm slowly cleaning them out. There were literally over 700 images of the same things, blurry images, even images with just the dragon's tail in it!!

Personally I think having sub-headings for episodes makes the page neater. What do you think?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  20:09, July 1, 2018 (UTC)

(I will be copy/pasting this message to the other staff again)

So it looks like we have three for one format and three for another.


 * 1) Arrange gallery pages according to episode.
 * 2) Arrange gallery pages according to episode only when sub-galleries are necessary, otherwise simply caption the first image of each episode.

I'd like to also throw out another argument for option 1 - People placing images in galleries don't always look at where they are putting them and just place them at the end of the gallery. Its a little more obvious if they are separated by sub-headings. Also, there are some galleries that might only have one or two pics for an episode, but they really ought to have more! Like images for characters that are not Hiccup, Astrid, or Toothless ... :P

So maybe we can split Gallery pages into episodes, but only when there is at least one episode with more than like, 9-10 images? I'm thinking that many subjects with only one or two images for an episode probably could or should be added to anyway. Also to clarify and re-iterate, when a gallery is on a subject's page (no gallery page), those images really need to be captioned with the source!

If everyone is okay with this, Woolly would you update the MOS and the article standard page for galleries? Thanks!

As far as the Gallery for Krogan's Singetail, yeah that's fine to have sub-galleries, I think no one will have a problem with that, though the number of images has been severely reduced - I deleted, I don't know, like a few hundred pics??

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  12:38, July 2, 2018 (UTC)

Template for image policy reminder?
So, I see some users still upload poorly-named images and don't categorize them. I was kind of inspired by the Welcome message you add to new user's talk pages, so I created a template we could add to a user's talk page as a reminder to look at the wiki rules, specifically for images. Also, that way we wouldn't have to keep typing out the same thing! What do you think?

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  20:55, July 1, 2018 (UTC)

Hiccstrid moment pictures on episode infoboxes
Hi Hiccstrid Fan. Think you should put a Hiccstrid moment picture on the episode infoboxes, like for example, Blindsided, Shell Shocked Part 1/2, Sandbusted, Dawn of Destruction and Mi Amore Wing are the only episodes that focuses on Hiccup and Astrid’s relationship.

If you’re going to agree with this make sure you do. Thanks!

PS: I’m the one putting Hiccstrid picture on the episode infoboxes. If you can understand what I’m saying, I really appreciate it. Thanks! Have a great day!

Excellinor the Witch
Hello!

I just noticed something. When I was searching for the books characters (more specifically excellinor the witch), In the part about Book 11, "How to betray a Dragon's Hero", it said nothing about her at alL :(. I know for once that she was part of that book as well (ever since Book eight she has always been seen), but Book 11 seems to be empty with nothing about her in it. I would've gladly edited it myself although Im not much of an expert on the books and not that good of an editor.

Just wanted to ask if that part was really supposed to be empty or not. Thankyou!

PS: Never got to thank you personally for blocking that user. I really appreciate it. I can guarantee she wont be doing it again. Thankyou very much! Have a good day

ThisIsRiderHana (talk) 04:54, July 6, 2018 (UTC)

Toothless’s page has been vandalized.
Hey HiccstridFan92,

Someone has been vandalizing Toothless’s page in the past few hours and I have been unable to revert the page to its proper form due to “conflicting edits”. Can you help?

--NarendraMartosudarmo (talk) 07:11, July 6, 2018 (UTC)

DublynT has taken care of it now. Thanks.

--NarendraMartosudarmo (talk) 07:22, July 6, 2018 (UTC)

Revisiting Gallery Layouts ...
Hey, just wondering if you have had a moment to consider the proposal for the gallery layouts. I had added more to User_talk:HiccstridFan92 after hearing from everyone the first time. You might have missed it because I didn't add it to the bottom of your talk page at the time. Thanks!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  13:53, July 8, 2018 (UTC)

As far as PNG vs JPG, I mostly agree with you. However, I am personally not able to follow it very well, because I use my iPhone for almost all of my screenshots. When taking a screen shot with an iPhone, it automatically saves it as a PNG. While it is possible for me to convert it either with a separate app or opening everything on my computer in like Paint or something, it would be extremely time-consuming and yet another step in an already multi-step process. Almost all of the images from the games I upload are JPG though, because I have to crop out the extraneous parts anyway. But there are far fewer of those than show screenshots (for example I uploaded about 90 or so images recently from "How to Start a Dragon Academy").

If you are familiar with iPhones and know if there is a way to get it to save screenshots in a different format, please let me know!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  12:50, July 9, 2018 (UTC)

Apparently, you cannot change what an iPhone can save a screenshot as (just Googled it). I will look around to see if there are any apps that can convert bulk images to JPG from PNG (that will work on my old iPhone - updated iOS 11 does not allow video screen capture anymore from iTunes or Netflix), but at the moment I can't say I will be able to for fully follow only uploading JPGs, sorry.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  14:23, July 9, 2018 (UTC)

I just found and purchased an app that is compatible with my old iPhone that seems to be able to bulk convert PNG to JPG. I have also downloaded "Viking for Hire" from iTunes, so will be able to test it soon.

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  16:01, July 9, 2018 (UTC)

Well, I got the idea from something you said not too long ago. I have the DVDs but my DVD player on my computer isn't the greatest. Yes, I purchased the first two episodes individually to see how it went for me. I was hoping to use my main phone, but apparently the iOS update blocked screenshoting not only in Netflix, but also the viewing app for iTunes (the image comes up blank). So I am able to still get the episodes on my not-updated old phone that I never got rid of. I haven't updated the iOS, so I can still screenshot (at least until Netflix and so on doesn't support the old OS ...). Anyway, yes, I saw that the total price for one Season is reduced from each individual purchase and right now it would be cheapest to purchase them as a bundle. I will probably do that eventually, but I am going to go slow right now, as I am also very slowly going through the books and assorted other self-imposed tasks on the Wiki!

Lady Brasa (  talk  )  16:37, July 9, 2018 (UTC)